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Daniel Negreanu: Poker | Lex Fridman Podcast #324
but I was never gonna be a professional athlete
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or a professional snooker player.
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I wasn't good enough at any of that stuff.
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I didn't have the body type, whatever.
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But poker, it sort of levels the playing field, right?
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You're six, five, 240, big deal.
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We're not fighting here.
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We're fighting a different type of war.
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So the competitive aspect,
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I also have always been fueled throughout my career
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by doubters.
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So this is probably unhealthy,
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but every time people say like, you're done,
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you're washed up, you can't win anymore,
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it just makes me wanna prove them wrong, right?
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So I have a little bit of that in me,
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which again, you're reading the comments
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and all these kinds of,
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like I've been told many times throughout my career
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for the last 15 that I'm done.
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I can't compete anymore.
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And I enjoy proving them wrong.
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Yeah, the game has changed so much.
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The greats of the past surely cannot be the greats
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of the present.
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That kind of commentary will continue for every sport.
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And certainly for poker,
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because poker really changed a lot
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over the past couple of decades.
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Can you speak to how much it has changed?
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Yeah.
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Because you've been at the top for so long.
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Yeah, so complacency is a big issue
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for people who make it, if you will, right?
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So in my era of the poker boom, around the early 2000s,
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there was a group of players who were the big names,
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the stars of the game.
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Well, a lot of them had their egos out of whack
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where they just felt like, okay, I'm the best, that's it.
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Like, no, there's young guys learning,
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there's new software, there's solvers,
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there's all these kinds of things.
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And if you're not keeping up, then you'll get surpassed.
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And I remember myself at a very early age saying,
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I never want to be that guy.
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And it was one of my first events in the late 90s.
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I was the young buck playing with the Tom McAvoy's
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and Brad Doughty, the guys of the era, right?
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And I was doing things more aggressively
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and they were scoffing at all these young kids
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with their aggressive three and all this stuff.
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And they were sort of mocking it, you know?
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And I thought, never be that guy.
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Always have the humility to be introspective
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and always have the respect for your opponents
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that while you think you've got it all figured out,
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they're learning new things and you can learn from them.
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So I've always been willing to sort of swallow my pride
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and get coached by younger players
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who I might even be better than,
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but they see blind spots that I have that I might not.
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And they, you know, they helped me improve my game.
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I've always been willing to sort of look every six months
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or a year and say, is what I'm doing working?
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And if not, how do I get better?
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But most people from my generation, they go the other way.
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I don't know, they just have this idea
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that they figured it all out.
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Once you feel like you've mastered it,
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there's nothing left to learn.
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That's the moment where everyone else
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starts to surpass you.
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That's the moment where you lose the mastery
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because it's always evolving.
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How has the game changed?
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So the game has changed
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in terms of the way people learn it, right?
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When I started out, the only way to learn how to play poker
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was to sit your ass on the chair and play.
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In person?
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Yes, in person, play.
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Maybe you jot down hands on a notepad.
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We didn't even have cell phones back then, right?
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So I would write notes.
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I actually brought a notepad.
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And then you don't analyze it
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and sort of try to figure it out that way
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and think about maybe talking to friends
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and different players.
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Like when I grew up, there was John Jawanda,
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Alan Cunningham and Phil Ivey.
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And we would sort of create
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like a little bit of a mastermind.
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Well, how would you play this hand?
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What would you do here?
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That was the extent of it, right?
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We never had the correct answers.
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We always had theories about what might be right.
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Not until about five, six years ago
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where everything changed.
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