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Daniel Negreanu: Poker | Lex Fridman Podcast #324
So always being a scholar of the game
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Daniel Negreanu: Poker | Lex Fridman Podcast #324
as the game evolves, as the different games evolve,
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the different players evolve, the culture evolves,
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always adjusting by being a scholar,
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having the humility to be a scholar.
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A healthy respect for, a healthy respect
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for the younger generation, how they learn,
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what they learn and what they can teach me,
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rather than poo poo it and say, oh, these kids today.
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Cause that's what a lot of people,
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like the Mike Matisos and the Phil Hellmuth, my generation,
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they just poo poo it because they don't understand it.
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On a level of one to 10,
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their level of understanding of this is like a one, maybe.
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If I'm being generous by calling it a one,
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they really don't understand it.
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So they poo poo it, right?
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It's easy to do that.
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Like, oh, that's not how I do it.
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So that's wrong or that's stupid or whatever.
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I don't take that approach.
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I go, well, let me learn.
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Let me see what there is to this.
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But that said, the crankiness that Matisos
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and Phil Hellmuth have is great to watch,
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especially when they're on a table with you.
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Oh, I love it.
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Yeah, it's a blast.
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You're masterful at being able to get under their skin.
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What about somebody from the new school,
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like Justin Bonomo, who's leading in terms of cash wins.
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Is there somebody like that,
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that stands out to you as a potential GOAT status person?
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Daniel Negreanu: Poker | Lex Fridman Podcast #324
Yeah, so there's two different ones, but one is very...
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Daniel Negreanu: Poker | Lex Fridman Podcast #324
So they're both just no limit, right?
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Daniel Negreanu: Poker | Lex Fridman Podcast #324
So again, when I think of poker,
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I think of a variety of games,
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but there's so many of the young guys that specialize.
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Michael Adamo is one that I've mentioned several times
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and I love the way that he approaches the game.
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Another one that's highly respected
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because of his online prowess and his...
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People have looked and how close he is to game theory
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and they say he's about as perfect as you get.
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And I got a kid named Linus.
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Linus love online, Linus Linger.
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So he just came second recently, I believe in the Triton,
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huge Triton event.
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So he's primarily an online player.
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Yeah, he's an online cash player for the most part,
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but he plays some live.
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And he's, again, and I respect the peers that I play with
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who say, yeah, he's tough as nails.
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There's another kid too, Russian kid named Timofey Kuznetsov
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and he plays all the games and he's well respected
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in that regard.
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And same with a guy like a Jungleman, Dan Cates,
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who's a unique personality.
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I mean, this guy showed up, won the poker players championship
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back to back years in a Randy Macho Man Savage costume.
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And he was doing Macho Man the entire time.
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Oh yeah, I'm gonna take all the chips like I did last year.
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Bust them all.
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And he was in character for the entirety of the tournament.
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This is great.
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Just unique.
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But yeah, I respect for a lot of those guys.
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Is it gonna take time to figure out
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who stands the test of time?
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That's the thing, right?
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So a lot of these kids,
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like there was a guy who beat me heads up
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in the million dollar one drop.
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I got 8.7, he won $15 million, kid named Dan Coleman.
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He was seen as like the next big thing in poker, right?
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He made his money, just wasn't for him.
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So he's moved on to doing what he's doing,
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skiing in the Alps, whatever.
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We have nobody seen him from like five, six years.
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So that can happen, right?
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Because there is a lot of burnout.
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I think it was actually a Gotham Chess
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who mentioned something about how difficult it is to like,
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I think it's true in poker.
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When you get really, really good at something,
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to get this much better takes so much work.
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And a lot of people don't necessarily wanna put in
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that kind of work in order to do that.
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That's just even staying at the same level
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takes a huge amount of work.
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Like, so if you wanna get better at chess,
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you're already like really, really good.
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And you're trying to get like one little bit better.
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You have to study like in a ridiculous amount, you know?
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And again, that's once you've already had,
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I think the toughest thing for anybody,
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once you've tasted success
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and you've already achieved it,
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staying hungry, staying on the top,
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reaching the top is much easier than it is to stay there.
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