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Daniel Negreanu: Poker | Lex Fridman Podcast #324
no limit holding player in the world today?
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No.
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Do I think that, you know,
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you can play high stakes mixed games
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with the best players in the world today and win?
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No, right?
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So he wouldn't get as much flack on this topic
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if he wasn't so boastful and like, you know, demanding.
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Like you never hear Phil Ivey say,
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I'm the best in the world.
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Like his peers do, right?
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But Phil wants to make the claim.
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And I simply say, I beg to differ, right?
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I beg to differ.
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Like, I don't think you are the best player in the world.
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If we can linger on the compliment so he can hear it,
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what makes him so good?
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Because it seems like a lot of times
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his play is not optimal.
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Yeah, he definitely has his own brand and style of play,
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right?
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He does not adhere to,
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he's never used a solver in his life.
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He doesn't know, he's not in that world, right?
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Phil has a lot of faith and a lot of confidence
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in what he does and that it will be successful.
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And I think there's something to be said about that, right?
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He doesn't ever lack in belief that he can win
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and he finds a way to do it his way.
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And frankly, a lot of what he does
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is very effective against specific types of players
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who are intimidated by him,
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but whether it's his resume or his demeanor
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or his attitude sometimes, right?
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Like if you're an average player
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and then you beat Phil in a hand, you're gonna hear it.
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This idiot from Northern Europe and beat me in this pot.
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And for some people, they don't like that.
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So he can use that against them.
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But I also think too, like he cares so much, right?
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And that leads to trying really, really hard.
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Like he sees these moments and he doesn't phone them in.
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Like whatever brand of poker he plays,
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he tries his best at all times to succeed and to win.
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And there's some, even though like he's fundamentally flawed
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in a lot of things that he does
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compared to some of the bigger players,
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his effort and will and like his determination
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to stick around is, you know, is up there.
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And he is somebody who seems to really hate losing.
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Yes, yeah, he feels like he deserves to win, right?
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In all cases.
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And if he loses, it's, you know, it's not just.
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As you joked around that you and him
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might do an anger management course.
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Yeah, I did say that in one video.
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Now this is tough because you're a humble guy,
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but objectively speaking,
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can you say what your strengths are?
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You're often listed as one of,
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if not the greatest player of all time.
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So what are the things that make you stand out?
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So for me, when I grew up,
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I admired the big cash game players,
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because that's what I was.
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I love tournaments, but I wanted to be well rounded.
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Like in my day, you couldn't make the poker hall of fame
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if you just played one game.
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You had to jump in to the high stakes games
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in Bobby's room, as they say, right?
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And I was able to do that.
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When I was in my early, in my mid twenties,
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I was playing 4,000, 8,000 limits.
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You know, you could win or lose a million dollars in a day.
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So I grinded it out.
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Like a lot of people think, oh, you know, he's lucky.
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He's had sponsorship.
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Otherwise he'd be broke.
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It's like, I built multi million dollar bankrolls
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before any of that stuff existed.
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And I did it the good old fashioned way
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by sitting my butt on the table.
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I think probably one of my biggest strengths
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is self awareness.
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And in that regard, a level of humility
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that always allows me to say, okay, well, you know what?
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In this case with these players, they're better than me.
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So what am I going to learn from them, right?
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Rather than have this need to say,
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I'm the best because of history.
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I'm always looking to guys and go, wow,
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he does this really well.
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Whether it's the Adamos or the Ivies or whoever it may be.
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So my willingness to adapt, I think,
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and stay relevant by learning what the young guys are learning
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is something I've always done.
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And I also pride myself on, again, being well rounded,
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like playing all the games.
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Like I don't feel intimidated in any game,
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you know, whatever the format is.
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