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Amy Johnson and her husband Eric are longtime members of the church just south of Seattle, and they started the faith and sexuality classes last year. They teach a curriculum developed by the Unitarian Church and the United Church of Christ about five years ago, called Our Whole Lives. It emphasizes the value and impor... | amy johnson and her husband eric are longtime members of the church just south of seattle and they started the faith and sexuality classes last year they teach a curriculum developed by the unitarian church and the united church of christ about five years ago called our whole; lives it emphasizes the value and importan... | Amy Johnson and, her husband Eric are; longtime members of the, church just south of Seattle and they started the faith and sexuality classes, last year They teach a curriculum developed by the Unitarian Church and the United Church of Christ, about five years ago, called Our Whole Lives It emphasizes the, value and im... | amy johnson and her husband eric are longtime members of the church just south of seattle, and they started the faith and sexuality classes last year. they teach a curriculum developed by the unitarian church and the united church of christ about five years ago, called our whole lives. it emphasizes the value and impor... |
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Right. What's the expiration date? | right what's the expiration | Right What's the expiration | right. what's the expiration date? |
I'm looking for it. 2009. | i'm looking for it | I'm looking for it | i'm looking for it. 2009. |
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Amy Johnson explains that part of the goal is to demystify sex, while at the same time, revering it as a sacred act. | amy johnson explains that part of the. goal is to demystify sex while at the same time, revering it as. a, sacred | Amy Johnson explains that part of the goal is to demystify sex while at the same time revering it as a sacred | amy johnson explains that part of the goal is to demystify sex, while at the same time, revering it as a sacred act. |
I think that we've covered it so thoroughly. I would hope that it's not such a forbidden fruit kind of thing, you know, it's like this is a natural part of your life. | i think that we've covered, it so thoroughly i would hope that it's. not such a forbidden fruit. kind of thing you know it's like this is a natural part of, your | I think that we've covered it so thoroughly I, would hope that it's not such a forbidden fruit kind; of thing you. know, it's like this is a natural. part of your | i think that we've covered it so thoroughly. i would hope that it's not such a forbidden fruit kind of thing, you know, it's like this is a natural part of your life. |
These kinds of sex education classes have become increasingly popular in the Unitarian Church and the United Church of Christ. And the program has trained more than a thousand teachers from other Christian denominations and some Jewish synagogues over the past few years. | these kinds of sex education, classes have become increasingly popular in the unitarian, church. and the united church of christ and the program, has trained more than a thousand teachers from other christian denominations and some jewish synagogues over the past few. | These kinds of sex education classes. have become increasingly popular in the Unitarian Church and the United Church of Christ And the. program has, trained more than a thousand teachers from other Christian denominations and some Jewish synagogues over the past few | these kinds of sex education classes have become increasingly popular in the unitarian church and the united church of christ. and the program has trained more than a thousand teachers from other christian denominations and some jewish synagogues over the past few years. |
We have an obligation to help our young people with this most central and spiritual part of their lives. To do anything less is simply immoral. | we have an, obligation to help our young people; with this most central and spiritual, part of their lives to do anything less is simply | We have an obligation to help our young; people with this most central and spiritual part of their lives To do anything less is simply | we have an obligation to help our young people with this most central and spiritual part of their lives. to do anything less is simply immoral. |
Deborah Haffner heads up the Religious Institute on Sexual Morality, Justice, and Healing. She's part of a coalition of religious leaders who sent out thousands of letters to clergy and congressmen earlier this year urging them to support what they call comprehensive sex education for youth. She says faith-based sex ed... | deborah haffner heads, up the religious institute on sexual morality justice and healing she's part of. a coalition of religious leaders; who sent out thousands of. letters to clergy and congressmen earlier this year urging them to support what they; call comprehensive sex. education for youth she says faith-based sex,... | Deborah Haffner; heads up the Religious Institute, on, Sexual Morality Justice and, Healing She's part of a coalition of religious leaders who sent out thousands of letters to clergy and congressmen earlier this year urging them to support what they call comprehensive sex education for youth She says faith-based sex ed... | deborah haffner heads up the religious institute on sexual morality, justice, and healing. she's part of a coalition of religious leaders who sent out thousands of letters to clergy and congressmen earlier this year urging them to support what they call comprehensive sex education for youth. she says faith-based sex ed... |
The good news about some of those programs is they do talk about things like peer pressure, you know, they do talk about things like body image. What they don't do is give young people information about how to protect themselves if they do have sex. | the good news about some of those programs is they do talk about things like peer pressure you, know they do talk about things like body image what they don't do is give young; people information about how to protect themselves if they do have | The good news. about some. of those programs is they do talk about things like peer pressure you, know they do talk about things, like body image What they don't do is give young people information about how to protect, themselves. if they do, have | the good news about some of those programs is they do talk about things like peer pressure, you know, they do talk about things like body image. what they don't do is give young people information about how to protect themselves if they do have sex. |
They need to know the whole truth. God's not against sex. He just says, hey, you know, wait until you're married. | they need to know the whole truth god's not against sex he just. says hey you know wait, until you're | They need to know the whole, truth God's not. against sex He just says hey you know wait until you're | they need to know the whole truth. god's not against sex. he just says, hey, you know, wait until you're married. |
Jay Forsythe is the youth minister at the High Point Community Church, a large Southern Baptist congregation just down the road from Federal Way in nearby Puyallap, Washington. His youth and sexuality course is focused almost exclusively on abstinence and religious values. He uses metaphors like cars and sports to illu... | jay forsythe is the youth minister, at the high point community church a large; southern baptist congregation just down the road from federal way in nearby puyallap washington his youth and sexuality course is focused, almost exclusively on abstinence and religious, values he uses metaphors like cars and sports to illu... | Jay Forsythe is the youth, minister at the. High Point Community Church a large Southern Baptist congregation just down the road from Federal Way in nearby Puyallap Washington His youth and sexuality course is focused almost. exclusively on abstinence and religious values He uses metaphors like cars and sports to illus... | jay forsythe is the youth minister at the high point community church, a large southern baptist congregation just down the road from federal way in nearby puyallap, washington. his youth and sexuality course is focused almost exclusively on abstinence and religious values. he uses metaphors like cars and sports to illu... |
I tell them if you make the choice to dive into sex or have - excuse me - sexual acts that, you know, you may be protected but then God knows that you did that act and that takes away some of the purity in you. | i tell them if you make. the choice to dive into sex or have - excuse me - sexual acts that you know you, may be protected but then god knows that you did, that act and that takes away some of the purity in | I tell them if you make the choice to dive into sex or have - excuse me - sexual acts that you know you may be. protected but then God knows that. you, did that act and that takes away some of the purity in | i tell them if you make the choice to dive into sex or have - excuse me - sexual acts that, you know, you may be protected but then god knows that you did that act and that takes away some of the purity in you. |
You know, that actually gets at the nub of why people find it difficult, because they think that's what it is. And it really isn't. To cut straight to the chase, arithmetic is thinking with numbers. It's calculating with numbers. Algebra is reasoning about numbers. So whereas arithmetic, you're actually thinking numeri... | you. know that actually. gets, at the nub of why; people, find it difficult. because they think that's what it, is and it really isn't to cut, straight to the chase arithmetic is thinking with numbers it's calculating with numbers algebra is reasoning about numbers so whereas arithmetic you're actually thinking numeric... | You know that actually gets at the. nub of, why people, find it difficult because they think that's what it is And it really isn't To cut straight to the chase arithmetic is thinking with numbers It's calculating with numbers Algebra is reasoning about numbers So whereas arithmetic you're actually thinking numerically ... | you know, that actually gets at the nub of why people find it difficult, because they think that's what it is. and it really isn't. to cut straight to the chase, arithmetic is thinking with numbers. it's calculating with numbers. algebra is reasoning about numbers. so whereas arithmetic, you're actually thinking numeri... |
And in fact, the problem is, people spend all of these year learning arithmetic and then they get moderately good or very good at it, and they meet algebra and there's these X's and Y's and Z's that are - at least they're not numbers - so this is just arithmetic. And they keep trying to do it using arithmetic methods. ... | and in fact the problem is. people spend. all of these year learning arithmetic and then they get moderately good or very good, at it and they meet algebra and there's these x's and y's and z's that are - at least. they're not numbers - so this is, just arithmetic. and they keep trying to do it using arithmetic methods... | And in fact the problem is people spend all of these year. learning arithmetic and then they get moderately good, or very good at it and they meet algebra and there's these X's and Y's and. Z's that. are - at least they're not numbers - so this is just arithmetic And, they keep trying to do it using arithmetic methods ... | and in fact, the problem is, people spend all of these year learning arithmetic and then they get moderately good or very good at it, and they meet algebra and there's these x's and y's and z's that are - at least they're not numbers - so this is just arithmetic. and they keep trying to do it using arithmetic methods. ... |
Let me bring a question to your attention I don't believe I've asked since I asked it of Karl Geise(ph) at Senn High School in Chicago, one of my math teachers. I said, Mr. Geise, I mean, like, what can you use algebra for anyway? That's exactly how I talked. | let me bring a; question to your attention i don't believe i've asked since i asked it of karl geise(ph) at senn high school in. chicago one of my. math. teachers i said mr geise i mean like what can you use algebra for anyway? that's exactly how i, | Let me, bring a question to your attention I don't believe I've asked since I asked. it of Karl Geise(ph) at Senn High School in Chicago one of my math, teachers I said Mr Geise I mean like what can you use algebra, for anyway? That's exactly how I | let me bring a question to your attention i don't believe i've asked since i asked it of karl geise(ph) at senn high school in chicago, one of my math teachers. i said, mr. geise, i mean, like, what can you use algebra for anyway? that's exactly how i talked. |
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You know, the odd thing is today, in today's society, there's an answer that's staring us all in the face, and that's the computer spreadsheet. It's very hard to do anything these day without a spreadsheet. If you're running a sports competition, you're going to start entering the results on a spreadsheet. If you're ke... | you know the, odd. thing is today in today's society there's; an answer that's staring us all in the face and that's, the computer spreadsheet it's very hard to do anything these day without a spreadsheet if you're running a sports competition you're going to start entering the results on. a. spreadsheet if you're keep... | You know, the odd thing is today in today's society there's an answer that's staring us all in the face and that's the computer spreadsheet It's very hard. to do anything these day without a, spreadsheet, If you're running a sports competition you're going to start entering the results on a spreadsheet If you're keepin... | you know, the odd thing is today, in today's society, there's an answer that's staring us all in the face, and that's the computer spreadsheet. it's very hard to do anything these day without a spreadsheet. if you're running a sports competition, you're going to start entering the results on a spreadsheet. if you're ke... |
And so spreadsheets are ubiquitous. But spreadsheets are all about algebraic thinking. In fact, the thing that the spreadsheet has done is it means we don't need to be good at arithmetic anymore because the spreadsheet does the arithmetic for us. But to put that spreadsheet together so that it does the calculations you... | and so spreadsheets are ubiquitous but spreadsheets are all about algebraic thinking in fact the thing that. the spreadsheet has done is it means we don't need to be good at arithmetic anymore because. the spreadsheet does the. arithmetic for us but to put. that spreadsheet together; so that it does the calculations yo... | And so spreadsheets are ubiquitous But, spreadsheets are all about algebraic thinking In fact the thing that the spreadsheet has done is it means we; don't need to be good at arithmetic anymore because the spreadsheet does the arithmetic, for us But to put that spreadsheet together so that it. does the calculations you... | and so spreadsheets are ubiquitous. but spreadsheets are all about algebraic thinking. in fact, the thing that the spreadsheet has done is it means we don't need to be good at arithmetic anymore because the spreadsheet does the arithmetic for us. but to put that spreadsheet together so that it does the calculations you... |
And are there different ways of teaching algebra now? | and are there different ways of teaching. algebra | And are there different ways of teaching, algebra | and are there different ways of teaching algebra now? |
I think the main thing is the motivation. You know, when I grew up and we met algebra, there were all sorts of weird problems about filling swimming pools with two hoses and the water running out, or putting water in the bath, in the bath. I mean there were all these problems, and you know, I thought to myself, as did ... | i think the main thing is the motivation you know when i. grew up and we. met algebra there were all sorts of weird problems about filling, swimming, pools with two hoses and the water running out or putting. water in the bath in the bath i mean there were all these problems and you know i thought to myself as did all ... | I think the main thing; is the motivation, You know when I; grew up and we met algebra there were, all. sorts of weird problems about filling. swimming, pools with two hoses and the water running out or putting water in the, bath in the bath I, mean there were all these problems and you know I thought, to, myself as di... | i think the main thing is the motivation. you know, when i grew up and we met algebra, there were all sorts of weird problems about filling swimming pools with two hoses and the water running out, or putting water in the bath, in the bath. i mean there were all these problems, and you know, i thought to myself, as did ... |
I mean we all knew that those were fake problems. They were problems designed to provide exercise in the techniques, but they weren't really applicable ones. But with spreadsheets, almost for the first time in history we have an absolutely important self-evident application that's absolutely about algebraic thinking. S... | i mean we all knew that those were, fake problems they were, problems designed to provide exercise in the techniques but they weren't really applicable ones. but with spreadsheets almost for the first time in history, we have an absolutely important self-evident application that's absolutely about, algebraic thinking s... | I mean we all knew that, those were fake problems They were problems designed to. provide exercise, in the techniques but they weren't, really applicable ones But with spreadsheets almost for the first time in history we have an absolutely important self-evident application that's absolutely about algebraic thinking, S... | i mean we all knew that those were fake problems. they were problems designed to provide exercise in the techniques, but they weren't really applicable ones. but with spreadsheets, almost for the first time in history we have an absolutely important self-evident application that's absolutely about algebraic thinking. s... |
Kids today, all you've got to do is convince them that spreadsheets are going to be really useful to them in their leisure activities or their professional activities or their home activities, whatever, and then they'll sort of see, oh yeah, I need to learn how to do these things and then they'll put in the effort. | kids today all you've got to do is convince them that spreadsheets are, going to be really useful; to them in their leisure activities or their professional activities or their, home activities whatever and then they'll sort of see oh yeah i need to learn how to do these things and then they'll put in; the | Kids today all you've got to do is convince them that spreadsheets are going to be, really useful to them in their leisure activities or their professional activities or their home activities, whatever and then they'll sort of see oh yeah I, need to learn how to do these things and then they'll put in the | kids today, all you've got to do is convince them that spreadsheets are going to be really useful to them in their leisure activities or their professional activities or their home activities, whatever, and then they'll sort of see, oh yeah, i need to learn how to do these things and then they'll put in the effort. |
But once you've got the motivation, it's still a matter of - you know, it's the old joke of - how do you get to Carnegie Hall? Well, practice, practice, practice. | but once you've got the motivation. it's still a; matter of - you know it's the old joke of - how do you get to carnegie hall? well practice practice | But once you've got the motivation; it's still. a matter of - you know it's the old joke of - how do, you get to Carnegie Hall? Well practice practice, | but once you've got the motivation, it's still a matter of - you know, it's the old joke of - how do you get to carnegie hall? well, practice, practice, practice. |
You know, it occurs to me, a number of years ago when handheld calculators first became well-known, I can remember people saying, well, you know, you can get rid of high school math now, because… | you know it occurs to me a. number of years ago when handheld calculators first became well-known i can remember people saying well you know you can get rid of. high school. math now | You know it occurs to me a number of years ago when handheld calculators first became well-known I can remember people saying, well. you know you can get rid of high school math now | you know, it occurs to me, a number of years ago when handheld calculators first became well-known, i can remember people saying, well, you know, you can get rid of high school math now, because… |
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Yeah. Yeah, it's like computers led to the paperless office too, yes. So what do we do? We all print off our PDF files all the time. No, it just doesn't work like that. What the computers did, and the calculators, is they changed the mathematics we need to learn and concentrate on. It didn't become important to be good... | yeah yeah it's like computers led to the paperless office too yes, so what do, we do? we all print, off our pdf files all the time no it just doesn't work like that what the computers did and the calculators is they changed, the mathematics we need to learn and, concentrate on it didn't become; important to be good at ... | Yeah Yeah it's like computers led to the paperless office too yes, So what; do we do? We all print off our PDF files all the time No it just, doesn't. work like that What the computers did. and the calculators is they changed the mathematics we need to learn and concentrate on It didn't become important to. be good at ... | yeah. yeah, it's like computers led to the paperless office too, yes. so what do we do? we all print off our pdf files all the time. no, it just doesn't work like that. what the computers did, and the calculators, is they changed the mathematics we need to learn and concentrate on. it didn't become important to be good... |
What is important now is to be able to tell that computer how to do the work for you. So computers turned us from being at the coal-face, being the mechanics who actually grind at the numbers, to be managers. We're all now managers. We now instruct the computer to do the arithmetic for us. And instructing the computer ... | what is important now is, to be; able to tell that computer how to do the work for you so computers turned us from. being at the. coal-face. being the, mechanics who actually grind at the numbers, to be managers we're all now managers we now instruct the computer to do the arithmetic for us and instructing the computer... | What is. important now is to be able to tell that computer how to do the, work for you So computers turned us from being at the coal-face being, the mechanics who actually grind, at the, numbers to be managers We're all now; managers We now instruct the computer to do. the arithmetic for us And instructing the. compute... | what is important now is to be able to tell that computer how to do the work for you. so computers turned us from being at the coal-face, being the mechanics who actually grind at the numbers, to be managers. we're all now managers. we now instruct the computer to do the arithmetic for us. and instructing the computer ... |
Is it true - I have to ask you because I think you probably told this to me once - that there are mathematicians whom you wouldn't trust to figure out the tip on a cup of coffee? | is it true - i have to ask you because i, think you probably told this to me once - that there are mathematicians whom you wouldn't trust to figure out the, tip on a cup of | Is it true - I have to ask you because I think you probably told this to me once - that there are mathematicians whom you wouldn't, trust to. figure out the tip on a cup of | is it true - i have to ask you because i think you probably told this to me once - that there are mathematicians whom you wouldn't trust to figure out the tip on a cup of coffee? |
I'm one of them, Scott. | i'm one of them | I'm one of, them | i'm one of them, scott. |
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So I probably did say that. Yeah... | so i probably did say that | So I probably did say that | so i probably did say that. yeah... |
I think that's why you made me buy it, if I'm not mistaken. | i think that's why you made me, buy it if i'm not | I think that's why you made me buy it if I'm not | i think that's why you made me buy it, if i'm not mistaken. |
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No, in fact, mathematicians are notoriously bad at doing everyday arithmetic, because they never do that. Because if you're a professional mathematician, you're working several levels removed from the levels of numbers in algebra. So you never do basic arithmetic. In fact, not only do mathematicians often make mistakes... | no in. fact mathematicians are notoriously bad at doing everyday arithmetic because they never do that because if you're a professional mathematician you're working several, levels removed from the levels of numbers, in algebra so you never do basic arithmetic in fact not. only. do mathematicians often make, mistakes. ... | No in fact mathematicians are notoriously bad. at doing everyday. arithmetic. because they never do; that Because if you're, a professional mathematician you're working several levels removed from the levels of numbers in algebra So you never do basic arithmetic In fact not only do mathematicians often make mistakes wi... | no, in fact, mathematicians are notoriously bad at doing everyday arithmetic, because they never do that. because if you're a professional mathematician, you're working several levels removed from the levels of numbers in algebra. so you never do basic arithmetic. in fact, not only do mathematicians often make mistakes... |
Keith, wonderful talking to you. Thanks so much. | keith wonderful talking to you thanks so | Keith wonderful talking to you Thanks so | keith, wonderful talking to you. thanks so much. |
Okay, my pleasure, Scott. | okay my, pleasure | Okay my pleasure | okay, my pleasure, scott. |
Keith Devlin, director of the H-STAR Institute at Stanford University, speaking with us from Palo Alto. | keith devlin director of the h-star institute at stanford university speaking with us from palo | Keith Devlin director of the H-STAR Institute at Stanford University speaking with us from Palo | keith devlin, director of the h-star institute at stanford university, speaking with us from palo alto. |
I think the important ones were in the Ninth District, which would be the north Georgia mountain district. And then there was one in the Augusta area, which picked the Republican nominee for what's expected to be one of the most competitive contests in the nation, involving John Barrow, who as you know is the last rema... | i think the important ones were in the. ninth district which would be the north georgia mountain district and then there was one in the augusta area which picked the, republican nominee. for what's expected to be one of the. most competitive contests in the nation involving john barrow who as; you know is the last rema... | I think the important ones were in the Ninth District which would be the north Georgia mountain district And then there. was one in the. Augusta area which picked the Republican nominee for, what's expected to be one of. the most competitive contests in the nation involving John Barrow who as you know is the. last rema... | i think the important ones were in the ninth district, which would be the north georgia mountain district. and then there was one in the augusta area, which picked the republican nominee for what's expected to be one of the most competitive contests in the nation, involving john barrow, who as you know is the last rema... |
The last one elected to Congress, in any case. | the last one elected to congress in any. | The last one elected to Congress in any | the last one elected to congress, in any case. |
Right. | right. | ||
Just about the last one in other cases, too. | just about the last one in other cases | Just about the last one. in other cases | just about the last one in other cases, too. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank | thank you. |
There was also a primary election yesterday in Wyoming. Any surprises in the Cowboy State? | there was also a primary election yesterday in wyoming any surprises in the cowboy | There was also a primary election yesterday in Wyoming Any surprises in the Cowboy | there was also a primary election yesterday in wyoming. any surprises in the cowboy state? |
Not really. It's such a strongly Republican state. Democrats really don't have viable opposition there. It's been Republican for so long, and it was sort of a perfunctory election. | not really it's such a strongly republican state democrats really don't have viable opposition there it's been republican for so long and it was sort, of a perfunctory | Not really It's such. a strongly Republican state. Democrats really don't have viable opposition there It's been Republican for so long and it was sort. of a perfunctory | not really. it's such a strongly republican state. democrats really don't have viable opposition there. it's been republican for so long, and it was sort of a perfunctory election. |
And so Senator Barrasso and Congresswoman Lummis, re-nominated without any problems? | and so senator barrasso and congresswoman lummis re-nominated without any | And so Senator Barrasso and Congresswoman Lummis re-nominated without any | and so senator barrasso and congresswoman lummis, re-nominated without any problems? |
Exactly, nothing there. Their percentages were in the range of what you might expect for an incumbent to win pretty easily. | exactly nothing there their percentages were in the range of what, you might expect for an incumbent to win pretty | Exactly nothing there Their percentages were, in, the. range of what you might expect for an incumbent, to win pretty | exactly, nothing there. their percentages were in the range of what you might expect for an incumbent to win pretty easily. |
All right. Let's get on to the real news, then, and that is the Senate race in Missouri, where as you go back over the past - it's only been three days. It feels like forever, and most people probably did not know the name of the Republican senatorial candidate in Missouri four days ago. | all right let's get on to the real. news then and that is the senate race in missouri where as you go back over the past - it's only been three days it feels like forever and most people probably did not know the name of the republican senatorial candidate in missouri four days | All right Let's get on to the real news then and that. is the Senate race in Missouri, where as you go back over. the past - it's only, been three days It feels like forever and most people probably did. not know the name, of the Republican senatorial candidate in Missouri four days | all right. let's get on to the real news, then, and that is the senate race in missouri, where as you go back over the past - it's only been three days. it feels like forever, and most people probably did not know the name of the republican senatorial candidate in missouri four days ago. |
I think there are probably a lot of House Republicans who didn't know Todd Akin's name before a couple of days ago, and it's amazing. It's really remarkable how it's permeated the political sphere in just a short amount of time. It showed up in this - in one of the runoffs, yesterday, among the Republicans. One of them... | i think there are probably a lot of house republicans. who didn't know. todd akin's name before a couple of days. ago and, it's amazing it's really remarkable, how it's permeated the political sphere, in just a short amount of time it, showed up in, this - in one. of the runoffs yesterday among the republicans one of. ... | I think there. are. probably a lot of House Republicans who didn't know Todd Akin's name before a. couple of days ago, and it's. amazing It's really remarkable how it's permeated the political sphere in just a short amount of time It showed up in this - in one, of the runoffs yesterday among the Republicans One of them... | i think there are probably a lot of house republicans who didn't know todd akin's name before a couple of days ago, and it's amazing. it's really remarkable how it's permeated the political sphere in just a short amount of time. it showed up in this - in one of the runoffs, yesterday, among the republicans. one of them... |
As the disgraced Todd Akin. | as the, disgraced, todd | As the disgraced Todd | as the disgraced todd akin. |
Exactly, so, you know, it's in Republican runoffs. Democrats are already hammering candidates, not just at the Senate level, but also at the House level. House Republican candidates are being asked to answer for Akin's remarks. Obviously, it's playing out in the Senate arena, and it's also affected the presidential rac... | exactly so you know it's in republican runoffs democrats are already hammering candidates not just at the senate level but also at the, house level, house republican candidates; are being. asked to answer for, akin's remarks obviously it's playing out in the senate arena and it's also affected the presidential | Exactly so you know, it's in Republican runoffs. Democrats are already hammering, candidates not just at the Senate level but also at the House level House Republican candidates are; being asked to answer for Akin's. remarks Obviously it's playing out in the Senate arena and it's also affected the. presidential | exactly, so, you know, it's in republican runoffs. democrats are already hammering candidates, not just at the senate level, but also at the house level. house republican candidates are being asked to answer for akin's remarks. obviously, it's playing out in the senate arena, and it's also affected the presidential rac... |
So it's really had a wide scope in a very short amount of time, and that I think is what really distinguishes this scandal. | so it's really had a wide scope in a very. short amount of time and that i think is what really, distinguishes this | So it's really had a, wide, scope in a, very short amount of time and, that I think is what really distinguishes this | so it's really had a wide scope in a very short amount of time, and that i think is what really distinguishes this scandal. |
In his initial comment response on Facebook, Congressman Akin said he misspoke and tried to let it go at that, but he was forced to then run an ad, yesterday, where he asked for forgiveness. | in his initial comment response on facebook congressman akin said, he misspoke, and tried to let it go. at that. but. he was forced to then run an, ad yesterday where he asked, for | In his initial comment response; on Facebook Congressman Akin said he misspoke and tried to let it go, at. that but, he was. forced to then run an ad yesterday where he asked for | in his initial comment response on facebook, congressman akin said he misspoke and tried to let it go at that, but he was forced to then run an ad, yesterday, where he asked for forgiveness. |
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Rape is an evil act. I used the wrong words in the wrong way, and for that I apologize. | rape is an evil act i used the wrong words in the wrong, way and, for that i | Rape is an evil act I. used the wrong words in the wrong, way; and for that I | rape is an evil act. i used the wrong words in the wrong way, and for that i apologize. |
He made the rounds of most of the morning talk shows. Today, this is never going to go away for him, is it? | he made; the rounds of most of the morning talk shows today this is never going to go. away for him is | He made the rounds of most of the morning talk shows Today this is never going to, go away for him. is | he made the rounds of most of the morning talk shows. today, this is never going to go away for him, is it? |
No, and he's actually taken a different tack, because first was the mea culpa tour, which you saw. And then last night, if you were following his Twitter account, you would see that he suddenly went on the offensive and began sending out a series of tweets, about a half-dozen, blaming liberal elites and the liberal med... | no and he's actually taken a different tack because first was the mea culpa tour which you saw and then last night if, you were following his twitter account you would see that he suddenly went on the, offensive and began sending out a series of tweets; about a half-dozen blaming liberal elites and, the liberal media a... | No and he's actually taken a different tack because, first was the mea culpa tour which you saw And then last night if. you were following his Twitter account you would see that he suddenly went on the offensive and began, sending. out a series of tweets about a half-dozen blaming liberal. elites and, the, liberal medi... | no, and he's actually taken a different tack, because first was the mea culpa tour, which you saw. and then last night, if you were following his twitter account, you would see that he suddenly went on the offensive and began sending out a series of tweets, about a half-dozen, blaming liberal elites and the liberal med... |
So it's pretty clear what the strategy is going to be, to, sort of, double-down on the base and run a very defensive-minded election and hope to, sort of, stay in the hunt until about October or so, when the national party will have to decide whether to hold its nose and help him out or not. | so it's pretty clear what the strategy is going to be to sort of double-down on the base and run a. very defensive-minded election and hope to sort of stay in the. hunt until about october or so when the national party will have to decide, whether to hold its nose and help him out or | So it's pretty. clear what the strategy is going to be to sort of double-down on the, base and run a very defensive-minded election. and hope to sort of stay in the hunt until about October or so when, the national party will; have to decide whether to hold its nose and help, him out, or | so it's pretty clear what the strategy is going to be, to, sort of, double-down on the base and run a very defensive-minded election and hope to, sort of, stay in the hunt until about october or so, when the national party will have to decide whether to hold its nose and help him out or not. |
Liberal elites, he's talked about one of the people who's calling for him to pull out of the race, on the "Today" program, this morning. | liberal elites he's talked about one of the people who's calling for him to pull out of the race on, the "today" program this | Liberal elites, he's talked, about one of the. people who's calling for him to pull out of the race on. the "Today" program this | liberal elites, he's talked about one of the people who's calling for him to pull out of the race, on the "today" program, this morning. |
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Paul Ryan did give me a call, and he felt that I had to make a decision, but he advised me that it would be good for me to step down. | paul ryan did give me a call and he. felt that i had to make a decision but he advised me that, it would be good for me to step | Paul Ryan did give, me a, call and he felt that I had to make a decision but he advised me that. it would be good for me to step | paul ryan did give me a call, and he felt that i had to make a decision, but he advised me that it would be good for me to step down. |
Not just Paul Ryan, his friend and fellow member of Congress, with whom he has co-sponsored legislation, but all the living Republican senators from his own state. | not just paul ryan his friend and fellow member of congress with. whom he has co-sponsored legislation but all the living republican senators from his own. | Not just Paul Ryan his friend, and fellow member of Congress with. whom he has co-sponsored legislation, but all the living Republican senators. from his own. | not just paul ryan, his friend and fellow member of congress, with whom he has co-sponsored legislation, but all the living republican senators from his own state. |
And it's not just the living Republican senators of his own state, it's the National Republican Senatorial Committee, it's many of the people he would serve with. And not just that, it's many of the most prominent conservative voices in the nation. We're talking about many of the most prominent conservative blogs, you'... | and it's not just the living republican senators of his. own state it's the national republican senatorial committee it's many of the people he would serve with and not just that it's many of the most prominent conservative voices in the nation we're talking about many of the most prominent conservative blogs you're ta... | And it's, not just. the living Republican senators of his own state it's the National Republican Senatorial Committee it's many of the people he would serve with And not just that it's many of the most prominent conservative voices in the nation We're talking about many of the most prominent conservative blogs you're t... | and it's not just the living republican senators of his own state, it's the national republican senatorial committee, it's many of the people he would serve with. and not just that, it's many of the most prominent conservative voices in the nation. we're talking about many of the most prominent conservative blogs, you'... |
And so you're talking about the full weight of the Republican Party, the full spectrum. Every quarter of the Republican Party, almost, has asked him to bite the bullet and step down, and he declined to. | and so. you're talking about the; full, weight, of the, republican party the full spectrum every quarter of. the republican party almost has asked him, to bite the bullet and step down and he declined | And so you're talking about the full weight. of the. Republican. Party the full spectrum Every quarter of the Republican Party almost. has asked him to bite the bullet and step down and, he declined | and so you're talking about the full weight of the republican party, the full spectrum. every quarter of the republican party, almost, has asked him to bite the bullet and step down, and he declined to. |
There seems to be just one person who has publicly called for him to stay in the race, and that's his Democratic opponent, the incumbent, Claire McCaskill. | there seems to be, just one. person who has, publicly called for him to stay in the race and that's his democratic opponent; the, incumbent claire | There seems to be just. one person who has publicly called for him to stay in the race. and that's, his Democratic opponent the incumbent Claire | there seems to be just one person who has publicly called for him to stay in the race, and that's his democratic opponent, the incumbent, claire mccaskill. |
For the national party to try to come in here and dictate to the Republican primary voters that they're going to invalidate their decision, that would be pretty radical, and I think there could be a backlash. | for the national party to try to come in here and dictate to the republican primary voters that they're going to. invalidate their, decision, that would be pretty radical and, i think there could be a | For the national party to try to come. in, here and dictate to the Republican primary voters that they're. going, to invalidate their decision that would be pretty radical and I think there could be a | for the national party to try to come in here and dictate to the republican primary voters that they're going to invalidate their decision, that would be pretty radical, and i think there could be a backlash. |
And this is the Democrat incumbent rated the most vulnerable as we went into this election cycle. She ran ads in the primaries hoping, clearly, that Akin would be her opponent, and it's, according to the polls, been a pretty close race. | and this is the democrat incumbent rated the most vulnerable as we went into, this election cycle she ran ads in the primaries hoping clearly that akin would be her opponent and it's. according to the polls been a pretty close, | And this is, the Democrat incumbent rated the most, vulnerable as we went into this election cycle She, ran ads in the primaries hoping clearly that, Akin would be her opponent and it's, according to the polls been a pretty close | and this is the democrat incumbent rated the most vulnerable as we went into this election cycle. she ran ads in the primaries hoping, clearly, that akin would be her opponent, and it's, according to the polls, been a pretty close race. |
Right, and this is the greatest thing that ever could have happened to Claire McCaskill, because I think it's the widespread opinion among anyone who follows political races pretty closely, is that she was the single most endangered incumbent. And if you had to say who was not going to be returning in the 113th Congres... | right and this is the greatest thing that ever could have happened to; claire mccaskill because i think it's the widespread opinion among anyone. who follows political races pretty closely is that she was the single most endangered incumbent and if you had to say who was. not going to be returning in the 113th congress... | Right and this is the greatest thing that ever could have happened to Claire; McCaskill because. I think it's, the widespread opinion among anyone who follows political races pretty closely is that she was the single most endangered incumbent. And if you had to say, who was not, going. to be returning, in the 113th Con... | right, and this is the greatest thing that ever could have happened to claire mccaskill, because i think it's the widespread opinion among anyone who follows political races pretty closely, is that she was the single most endangered incumbent. and if you had to say who was not going to be returning in the 113th congres... |
But all of a sudden, she's back in the game as a result of this. And that's a pretty remarkable turn of events in just a couple of days because her standing in the polls is just very, very low. Even now you see that Akin holds it close, according to some polls, and that reflects something about her unpopularity right n... | but all of a sudden she's back, in the game as a result of this and that's a pretty, remarkable turn of, events in just a couple. of days because her, standing in the polls is just very very low even now. you see that akin holds it close according to some polls and that reflects something about her unpopularity right | But all of a sudden she's, back in the game as, a result of this And that's a. pretty, remarkable turn of events in just a couple; of days because her standing in the polls is just very very low Even now you see that Akin holds it close according to some polls and that reflects something about her unpopularity right | but all of a sudden, she's back in the game as a result of this. and that's a pretty remarkable turn of events in just a couple of days because her standing in the polls is just very, very low. even now you see that akin holds it close, according to some polls, and that reflects something about her unpopularity right n... |
In the meantime, this is going to not be contained just to the state of Missouri. For one thing, this affects the calculus. If McCaskill is now in better shape, and it's hard to believe she isn't, it's going to affect the calculus of whether the Republicans can take control of the United States Senate. | in the meantime this is going to not be contained just to the state of missouri, for one thing this affects the calculus if mccaskill is now, in better shape and it's hard to believe she. isn't it's going to affect the calculus of whether the republicans can take control of the united states | In. the meantime this is going to not be contained just to the state of Missouri For. one. thing this affects the calculus If McCaskill is now in better shape and. it's hard to believe she isn't it's going to affect. the calculus of whether the Republicans can take control of. the United States | in the meantime, this is going to not be contained just to the state of missouri. for one thing, this affects the calculus. if mccaskill is now in better shape, and it's hard to believe she isn't, it's going to affect the calculus of whether the republicans can take control of the united states senate. |
Right the contagion is so widespread. It affects the calculus of majority control in the Senate, but it's not just that. It's also putting candidates in other races on the defensive. That takes them off their message, it takes them away from talking about the economy every time they have to answer for Todd Akin. | right the contagion is so widespread it. affects the calculus of majority control in. the senate. but it's not just that it's. also putting candidates in other races. on. the defensive. that takes them off, their message it takes them away from talking about the economy every time they. have to answer for todd | Right the contagion is so widespread. It affects the calculus of majority control in the Senate but it's not just that It's also putting candidates in other races on the defensive That takes them off their message it takes them away from talking. about the economy every time they have. to. answer for Todd | right the contagion is so widespread. it affects the calculus of majority control in the senate, but it's not just that. it's also putting candidates in other races on the defensive. that takes them off their message, it takes them away from talking about the economy every time they have to answer for todd akin. |
And keep in mind, this is probably not going to determine or decide any races, whether at the House or the presidential level, but this is a state that is - while it's fairly conservative, this was a state that was divided by less than 5,000 votes in the 2008 presidential election. And so you don't want to take any ch... | and keep in mind this is probably not going to determine or decide. any races whether at the house or the presidential level but this is a state. that is, - while it's. fairly conservative this was a state that was divided. by. less than 5,000 votes. in the 2008 presidential; election and so. you don't want to take an... | And keep in mind. this is probably not going to determine or decide any races whether at the House or the presidential level but this is a state. that is - while it's fairly conservative this. was a state that was divided by less, than 5,000 votes in the 2008 presidential election And so, you don't want to take any ch... | and keep in mind, this is probably not going to determine or decide any races, whether at the house or the presidential level, but this is a state that is - while it's fairly conservative, this was a state that was divided by less than 5,000 votes in the 2008 presidential election. and so you don't want to take any ch... |
Let's get some callers on from Missouri, 800-989-8255. Email talk@npr.org. Denise(ph) is with us from St. Louis. | let's get some callers on from missouri 800-989-8255. email talk@npr.org denise(ph) is with us from st | Let's get; some callers on from Missouri 800-989-8255. Email talk@npr.org Denise(ph) is with us from St | let's get some callers on from missouri, 800-989-8255. email talk@npr.org. denise(ph) is with us from st. louis. |
Hi. | hi. | ||
Hi. | hi. | ||
I am an anti-abortion Democrat. I'm very much against abortion, but I am also against the Republicans. And I don't think that Todd Akin would have apologized so much if he hadn't been called on the carpet, he would still be sticking to that same strange science that he has about women's bodies. | i am an anti-abortion democrat i'm very much against abortion but i am also against, the republicans and i don't think that; todd akin would have apologized so, much if he hadn't been called on the carpet he would still be sticking to that, same strange science that he, has about women's | I am an; anti-abortion Democrat I'm very much against abortion but I am also against the Republicans And I don't think that, Todd Akin would have apologized so much if he hadn't been called on the carpet he would still be sticking. to that same strange science, that he has about women's | i am an anti-abortion democrat. i'm very much against abortion, but i am also against the republicans. and i don't think that todd akin would have apologized so much if he hadn't been called on the carpet, he would still be sticking to that same strange science that he has about women's bodies. |
And so you think that part he believes? | and so you think that. part he | And so you think that, part he; | and so you think that part he believes? |
I do think he believes it. I think that he's just saying that because he got called on the carpet about it. And I'd like to know what you guys thing about Ryan co-sponsoring the bill with this language in it about rape... | i do think he believes it i think that he's just saying that. because he got called on the carpet about it and i'd like, to know. what you guys thing about ryan co-sponsoring the bill with this. language in it about | I do, think he believes it I think that he's. just saying that because he got called on, the carpet about it And; I'd like to know what you guys thing. about Ryan co-sponsoring the; bill with this language in it, about | i do think he believes it. i think that he's just saying that because he got called on the carpet about it. and i'd like to know what you guys thing about ryan co-sponsoring the bill with this language in it about rape... |
It's not legitimate rape, which was what Akin said in the interview, but forcible rape. I'm not sure what the distinction is, but this also comes, I guess, the same day that the Republican Party Platform Committee down in Tampa endorses an abortion platform that, well, looks more like Mr. Akin's position than Mr. Romne... | it's not legitimate rape which. was what akin said in the interview but forcible rape i'm not sure what the distinction is. but this also comes i guess, the same, day that the republican party platform committee down in tampa endorses an. abortion platform that well looks more like mr akin's position than mr | It's not legitimate rape, which was what Akin said in the interview but forcible rape I'm not sure what the distinction is but this also comes I guess the same day that the Republican Party Platform Committee. down in Tampa endorses an. abortion platform that well looks more like Mr Akin's position than Mr | it's not legitimate rape, which was what akin said in the interview, but forcible rape. i'm not sure what the distinction is, but this also comes, i guess, the same day that the republican party platform committee down in tampa endorses an abortion platform that, well, looks more like mr. akin's position than mr. romne... |
I feel that the Republicans trot out their abortion platform every four years, get everybody excited, and then the next - if they do win, the next four years, they don't do anything about it. It's just an issue they bring up so they can get elected. Nobody's ever doing anything about abortion. | i feel that the republicans trot; out their abortion platform every four years get everybody excited and then the next - if they do win the next four. years they don't do anything about it it's just an issue they bring up so they can get elected nobody's ever doing anything. about | I feel; that the. Republicans trot out their abortion platform every four years get everybody excited and. then the next - if they, do, win the next, four years they don't do anything, about it It's just. an issue they bring up so they can get elected Nobody's ever doing anything about | i feel that the republicans trot out their abortion platform every four years, get everybody excited, and then the next - if they do win, the next four years, they don't do anything about it. it's just an issue they bring up so they can get elected. nobody's ever doing anything about abortion. |
I think that Democrats care much more about the people who end up having to have the abortions because of the straits that they're in. | i think that democrats care much more about the people who end up having to have the abortions because of the straits that they're | I think that Democrats care much more about the, people who end up having to have the abortions because of, the straits that they're | i think that democrats care much more about the people who end up having to have the abortions because of the straits that they're in. |
Well, Charlie Mahtesian? | well charlie | Well Charlie | well, charlie mahtesian? |
Well, I think Denise makes some great points there. I mean, it's a problem on several different levels for Republican and a Republican like Paul Ryan. Because number one, it sort of enables the Democrats to continue prosecuting the case for the argument they're making, this is a prime part of Democratic messaging, that... | well i think denise makes some great points there. i mean it's a problem on several different levels for republican and. a republican like paul ryan because number one it sort of enables the democrats to continue prosecuting the case for the argument they're making this is a prime part of democratic. messaging that the... | Well I; think Denise, makes some great points there I mean it's a problem on several different levels for Republican and a Republican like Paul Ryan Because number, one it. sort of enables the Democrats to continue prosecuting the case, for the argument they're making this is a. prime part of Democratic messaging. that... | well, i think denise makes some great points there. i mean, it's a problem on several different levels for republican and a republican like paul ryan. because number one, it sort of enables the democrats to continue prosecuting the case for the argument they're making, this is a prime part of democratic messaging, that... |
And this is part of that argument they'll make. And it also puts Ryan on the defensive on an issue that, while he is a strongly pro-life candidate, at the same time, that is the last thing he wants to be talking about, or Mitt Romney, in the homestretch of the campaign - that is sort of laser-focused on the economy. Th... | and this is, part of that argument they'll make and it. also puts ryan on the defensive. on an issue that while he is a strongly pro-life candidate at the. same, time that is the last thing he wants to be talking about or; mitt romney in the homestretch of the campaign - that is, sort of laser-focused on the economy th... | And this is part of that argument they'll make. And it also puts Ryan on, the defensive on an issue that while he, is a strongly pro-life. candidate at, the same time. that is the last thing he wants to be talking about or, Mitt Romney in the homestretch of the campaign - that is sort of laser-focused on the economy Th... | and this is part of that argument they'll make. and it also puts ryan on the defensive on an issue that, while he is a strongly pro-life candidate, at the same time, that is the last thing he wants to be talking about, or mitt romney, in the homestretch of the campaign - that is sort of laser-focused on the economy. th... |
Every moment they're - that's spent defending or explaining Todd Akin or talking about social issues, talking about abortion is a moment that they can't talk about the issue of Barack Obama's greatest vulnerability. | every moment they're - that's spent defending or explaining, todd akin or talking about social issues talking about abortion is a. moment that they can't talk about the; issue of barack obama's greatest | Every moment they're - that's spent defending or explaining Todd Akin or talking about social issues talking about abortion is a moment that they can't, talk about the issue of Barack Obama's greatest | every moment they're - that's spent defending or explaining todd akin or talking about social issues, talking about abortion is a moment that they can't talk about the issue of barack obama's greatest vulnerability. |
And so they are off-message every minute they're talking about that or, for that matter, even talking about Medicare. | and. so they are off-message, every minute they're talking about that. or for that matter even talking about | And so they. are off-message every minute they're talking about that or for that matter; even talking about | and so they are off-message every minute they're talking about that or, for that matter, even talking about medicare. |
Every minute, every news story that comes, every news segment on TV, all of that is a huge distraction. And I think that's reflected in sort of the widespread call from Republicans, all across the spectrum, for Todd Akin to step down yesterday. | every minute every news story, that comes every news segment on tv all of that is a huge distraction and i think that's reflected in sort of the widespread call from republicans all across the spectrum for todd, akin to step down | Every minute every. news story that comes every news segment, on TV all, of that is a huge, distraction And I think that's reflected in sort of the widespread call from Republicans all. across the spectrum for Todd Akin, to step down | every minute, every news story that comes, every news segment on tv, all of that is a huge distraction. and i think that's reflected in sort of the widespread call from republicans, all across the spectrum, for todd akin to step down yesterday. |
Let's get Paul(ph) on the line, Paul's with us from Washington, Missouri. | let's get paul(ph) on the line, paul's with. us. from. washington | Let's get Paul(ph) on the, line Paul's with us from Washington | let's get paul(ph) on the line, paul's with us from washington, missouri. |
Hey, Neal. | hey | Hey | hey, neal. |
Hi. | hi. | ||
We in Missouri have been - well, we'll just say blessed - to be aware of Mr. Akin for quite some time. And before all this happened, he was certainly under scrutiny by us voters when he called for the abolition of free and reduced lunches for our children. And then also he said people who belong to liberal or progressi... | we in missouri have been - well we'll just say blessed - to, be aware of, mr akin for. quite, some time and before all this happened he was certainly under scrutiny by us voters when he called for the abolition of free and reduced lunches for our children, and then also he said people who belong to liberal, or progress... | We; in Missouri have been - well we'll just say blessed. - to be aware of Mr Akin for, quite some time And before all, this happened he was certainly under scrutiny by us voters when he called for the abolition of free and reduced lunches for our children And then also he said people who belong to liberal or progressiv... | we in missouri have been - well, we'll just say blessed - to be aware of mr. akin for quite some time. and before all this happened, he was certainly under scrutiny by us voters when he called for the abolition of free and reduced lunches for our children. and then also he said people who belong to liberal or progressi... |
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