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So this has been a controversial figure in - it's also interesting, Charlie that in the runoff, in the three-way primary in Missouri, he was not the Tea Party candidate. He's - for example, one thing, endorsed a lot of pork.	so. this has been. a controversial figure in, - it's also interesting charlie. that in the runoff in the three-way primary. in missouri he was not the tea party candidate he's - for example. one thing. endorsed a lot of	So this has been a controversial figure in - it's also interesting Charlie that in. the runoff in the three-way primary in Missouri he. was not the Tea Party candidate He's - for example one thing, endorsed a, lot of	so this has been a controversial figure in - it's also interesting, charlie that in the runoff, in the three-way primary in missouri, he was not the tea party candidate. he's - for example, one thing, endorsed a lot of pork.
Yeah, he was not the candidate of the Tea Party, he was not the candidate of the establishment, and in many ways he was the candidate that the Claire McCaskill campaign wanted to run, because they figured in a general election, he would have the least appeal to a broad audience.	yeah he was not, the candidate of the. tea party he was not the candidate of the establishment, and in many ways he was, the candidate that the claire. mccaskill campaign wanted to run because they figured in, a general election he would have the least appeal to a broad	Yeah he was not the candidate of the Tea Party he was not the. candidate of the establishment and in many ways he was the candidate that the Claire McCaskill campaign wanted to run. because they figured in a general. election he would have the least appeal. to a broad	yeah, he was not the candidate of the tea party, he was not the candidate of the establishment, and in many ways he was the candidate that the claire mccaskill campaign wanted to run, because they figured in a general election, he would have the least appeal to a broad audience.
He didn't - he's not a great fundraiser. So all the things you look at in politics, he didn't have that make you a very viable or strong statewide candidate. But what he did have was a very devoted base of social conservatives, probably not as big as other social conservatives have in other states, but it was very devo...	he didn't - he's not a great fundraiser so all the things you look at in, politics he didn't have that make, you. a very viable or strong statewide candidate but what he did have was a very devoted base of social conservatives probably not as big as other social conservatives have, in other states but it was, very devo...	He didn't - he's not a great fundraiser, So all the things you look at in politics, he. didn't have that make you a very viable or, strong statewide candidate, But what he did have, was a very devoted base of social conservatives probably not as big as other social conservatives. have in other states but it was very de...	he didn't - he's not a great fundraiser. so all the things you look at in politics, he didn't have that make you a very viable or strong statewide candidate. but what he did have was a very devoted base of social conservatives, probably not as big as other social conservatives have in other states, but it was very devo...
And, you know, against Sarah Steelman who was running and against John Brunner who was the multi-millionaire who was running, it was enough to skate by, and that's how he ended up in this position.	and you know against sarah steelman who was running and against john. brunner who was the multi-millionaire who was running it was enough to. skate by and that's how he ended up. in; this	And you, know against Sarah Steelman who was running and against John Brunner who was the multi-millionaire who was running. it was. enough to skate. by and that's how he ended up in this	and, you know, against sarah steelman who was running and against john brunner who was the multi-millionaire who was running, it was enough to skate by, and that's how he ended up in this position.
It's Political Junkie day. Up next, when campaigns go dirty. If you've ever worked on a campaign, when did you decide to go negative? How'd it work out for you? Give us a call, 800-989-8255. Email us, talk@npr.org. Stay with us. I'm Neal Conan. It's the Political Junkie day on TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News.	it's political junkie day up next when. campaigns, go dirty if, you've ever worked on a campaign when did you decide to go negative? how'd it work out for. you? give us a call 800-989-8255. email us talk@npr.org. stay. with us i'm. neal conan it's the political junkie day on talk of the nation from npr	It's Political Junkie day Up next when. campaigns go; dirty If you've ever worked on a campaign when, did you decide to go negative? How'd it work out for you? Give us a call 800-989-8255. Email, us; talk@npr.org Stay with us I'm, Neal; Conan It's the Political Junkie day on TALK OF THE NATION from NPR	it's political junkie day. up next, when campaigns go dirty. if you've ever worked on a campaign, when did you decide to go negative? how'd it work out for you? give us a call, 800-989-8255. email us, talk@npr.org. stay with us. i'm neal conan. it's the political junkie day on talk of the nation from npr news.
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This is TALK OF THE NATION. I'm Neal Conan. Ken Rudin's away. We won't start any more rumors about where he is, but we'll expect him back here in Studio 3A next week. In the meantime, sitting in, guest Political Junkie Charlie Mahtesian, national politics editor at Politico.	this is talk of the nation i'm neal conan ken rudin's away we won't start any more rumors about where he is but we'll expect him back, here in studio 3a next, week; in the meantime sitting in guest; political junkie charlie mahtesian national. politics editor, at	This is TALK OF THE NATION I'm Neal Conan Ken Rudin's away We won't start any more rumors about where he is but we'll expect him back here in Studio 3A next. week In the meantime sitting in guest Political. Junkie Charlie Mahtesian, national politics editor at	this is talk of the nation. i'm neal conan. ken rudin's away. we won't start any more rumors about where he is, but we'll expect him back here in studio 3a next week. in the meantime, sitting in, guest political junkie charlie mahtesian, national politics editor at politico.
And in recent weeks, both sides in the presidential campaign have accused each other of playing dirty. On Monday, President Obama was pressed about an ad by an outside group called Priorities USA that tries hard to link the death of a woman with cancer to Mitt Romney.	and in recent weeks both sides in the presidential campaign have accused each other of playing dirty on. monday president obama was pressed about, an ad by an outside. group, called priorities usa that tries hard to. link the death of a woman with cancer to mitt	And in recent weeks both sides, in the presidential campaign have accused each other; of playing dirty On Monday President Obama was pressed about an; ad by an outside group called Priorities USA that tries hard to link the death of a woman with, cancer to. Mitt	and in recent weeks, both sides in the presidential campaign have accused each other of playing dirty. on monday, president obama was pressed about an ad by an outside group called priorities usa that tries hard to link the death of a woman with cancer to mitt romney.
Your opponent's record ought to be fair game, David Mark.	your opponent's record ought, to be fair game david	Your opponent's record ought to be fair game David	your opponent's record ought to be fair game, david mark.
Yeah. It's a good area. It's kind of nice down here.	yeah it's a good area it's kind of nice down	Yeah It's a good area It's kind of nice, down	yeah. it's a good area. it's kind of nice down here.
Even I got to relax.	even i got to	Even I got to	even i got to relax.
But keep in mind, this is an ad that I didn't approve, I did not produce, and as far as I can tell has barely run. I think it ran once. Now in contrast, you've got Governor Romney creating as a centerpiece of his campaign this notion that we're taking the work requirement out of welfare, which every single person here ...	but keep in, mind this is an ad that i didn't approve. i did not produce and as far as i can tell has barely run i think it ran once now in contrast you've got governor. romney creating as a centerpiece of his campaign; this, notion. that we're taking the work requirement out of welfare which every single person here; ...	But keep in mind this is an ad that I didn't approve I did not produce and as far as I can tell has barely run I think it ran once Now in contrast you've got Governor Romney creating as a centerpiece of his campaign this notion that we're taking the work requirement out of welfare which every single person here who's l...	but keep in mind, this is an ad that i didn't approve, i did not produce, and as far as i can tell has barely run. i think it ran once. now in contrast, you've got governor romney creating as a centerpiece of his campaign this notion that we're taking the work requirement out of welfare, which every single person here ...
President Obama taking questions from reporters at the White House on Monday. The president's camp has complained of Romney tactics and tone as well in this campaign. If you've ever worked on a campaign, when did you decide to go negative, and how did that work out for you? Give us a call, 800-989-8255. Email us, talk@...	president obama taking questions. from reporters at the white house. on; monday the president's camp has complained of romney tactics and tone as well in this campaign if you've ever worked on a campaign when did you decide to. go negative and. how did. that work out. for you? give us a call 800-989-8255. email us talk...	President Obama taking questions from reporters at the White House on Monday The president's camp has complained of Romney tactics and tone as well in. this campaign If you've ever worked on a campaign, when did you decide to go, negative and how did that work out for you? Give us a call 800-989-8255. Email us talk@npr...	president obama taking questions from reporters at the white house on monday. the president's camp has complained of romney tactics and tone as well in this campaign. if you've ever worked on a campaign, when did you decide to go negative, and how did that work out for you? give us a call, 800-989-8255. email us, talk@...
My pleasure, good to be here.	my pleasure good to, be,	My pleasure good, to be	my pleasure, good to be here.
And when do candidates decide to go negative?	and when do. candidates decide to; go	And when do candidates decide to go	and when do candidates decide to go negative?
Campaigns don't generally like to discuss this publicly, out loud, but the general rule of thumb, to the degree there is one, is when a candidate, a campaign, realizes their own approval ratings are not getting any higher - in other words, they can't get people to like them any better, so all they can really do is sort...	campaigns don't generally like to discuss this publicly. out loud but the general, rule of thumb to, the degree, there is, one is when a, candidate a campaign. realizes their own approval ratings are, not getting any higher - in other words they can't get people to like. them any better so all they can really do is sor...	Campaigns don't generally like. to discuss this publicly out loud but the general rule of, thumb to the degree there is one is when a candidate a campaign. realizes their own approval ratings, are not getting any higher - in other words they can't get people to. like them, any better so all they can. really do is sort ...	campaigns don't generally like to discuss this publicly, out loud, but the general rule of thumb, to the degree there is one, is when a candidate, a campaign, realizes their own approval ratings are not getting any higher - in other words, they can't get people to like them any better, so all they can really do is sort...
So it's called driving up the other guy's negatives?	so it's called driving up the other. guy's	So it's called driving up the other guy's	so it's called driving up the other guy's negatives?
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That's right. It's essentially saying, you know what? I've reached my plateau. And I suspect the Obama campaign in Chicago is sort of taking this route, even if they're not going to say that publicly, that President Obama's approval ratings have probably plateaued in the low 50s, somewhere around there. And they're jus...	that's right it's essentially saying you know what? i've reached my plateau and i suspect the obama campaign. in chicago is. sort of taking this route even if they're. not; going to say that publicly that, president obama's approval ratings have probably plateaued in the low 50s somewhere around there and they're just ...	That's right It's essentially saying you know what? I've reached my plateau And I suspect the Obama campaign in Chicago is sort of taking this. route even if they're not going to say that publicly that President Obama's approval ratings have. probably plateaued in the low 50s somewhere around there And they're just not...	that's right. it's essentially saying, you know what? i've reached my plateau. and i suspect the obama campaign in chicago is sort of taking this route, even if they're not going to say that publicly, that president obama's approval ratings have probably plateaued in the low 50s, somewhere around there. and they're jus...
So that all they can really do, whether directly or through surrogates, having them do the dirty work, as was just noted in that ad about that cancer death, is to drive up negatives about Mitt Romney and show why essentially he's unfit to be president.	so that, all they, can really do whether directly or through surrogates having them, do the dirty work as was just noted in that ad about that cancer death is to drive up negatives about mitt romney and show why essentially he's unfit to be	So that all they, can. really do whether directly, or through surrogates having. them do the dirty. work as was just noted in that ad about that cancer death is to drive up negatives, about Mitt Romney and show why essentially he's unfit to be	so that all they can really do, whether directly or through surrogates, having them do the dirty work, as was just noted in that ad about that cancer death, is to drive up negatives about mitt romney and show why essentially he's unfit to be president.
But doesn't this come with a cost? There was an interesting piece this week in the Washington Post that analyzed on a survey of independents, and one thing they really hate is all of the partisan bickering. They like it when people cross the aisle and embrace the other side.	but doesn't. this come with a cost? there was an interesting piece this. week in the washington post. that analyzed. on a survey of independents and one thing they really hate is. all, of the partisan bickering they like it when people cross the. aisle and embrace the other	But doesn't this come with a, cost? There was an interesting piece this week in the Washington Post that analyzed on a survey of independents; and one thing they, really hate is all of the partisan bickering They like, it. when people cross the aisle, and embrace the other	but doesn't this come with a cost? there was an interesting piece this week in the washington post that analyzed on a survey of independents, and one thing they really hate is all of the partisan bickering. they like it when people cross the aisle and embrace the other side.
And that gets to a really interesting and I think important point about this election. It's the question of how many independent voters are really out there. In the national vote, the popular vote, both sides, President Obama and Mitt Romney are likely to get 47 to 48 percent of the vote. That's probably true in a lot ...	and that gets to a really interesting and i. think important point about this election. it's. the question of how many independent, voters are really out. there in the national vote the popular vote both sides president obama and mitt romney. are likely to get 47 to 48 percent of the vote that's probably true in a lot ...	And that gets to, a really interesting and I think. important, point about this election It's the question of how many independent voters are really out there In the national. vote the popular vote both sides President Obama, and Mitt Romney. are likely to; get 47 to 48 percent of the vote. That's, probably true in a l...	and that gets to a really interesting and i think important point about this election. it's the question of how many independent voters are really out there. in the national vote, the popular vote, both sides, president obama and mitt romney are likely to get 47 to 48 percent of the vote. that's probably true in a lot ...
So what I think we're seeing on both sides, even if they don't like to state it publicly, is they're going for their political bases. With President Obama's surrogates there essentially accusing Mitt Romney of being complicit in a cancer death, they're essentially ginning up their own base. They're saying to their supp...	so what i think we're seeing on both sides even if they don't like to state. it. publicly is they're going for their political bases with president obama's surrogates there essentially accusing mitt romney of being, complicit in a cancer death. they're essentially ginning up their own base they're saying to their suppo...	So what I think we're seeing on both; sides, even if they don't like to state it publicly is they're going for their political bases With President Obama's surrogates there essentially accusing Mitt Romney of being complicit in. a cancer death they're essentially. ginning up their own base They're saying to their, supp...	so what i think we're seeing on both sides, even if they don't like to state it publicly, is they're going for their political bases. with president obama's surrogates there essentially accusing mitt romney of being complicit in a cancer death, they're essentially ginning up their own base. they're saying to their supp...
On the other side, we have Mitt Romney's campaign directly accusing the Obama team, the Obama administration, of gutting welfare requirements. That's also kind of a signal to their own Republican base to say this is why this campaign is so key, why you have to not just vote but come out and volunteer, knock on doors, s...	on the other side we have mitt romney's, campaign directly accusing the obama team the obama administration of gutting welfare requirements that's also kind of a signal to their own republican base to say this is why this campaign is so key why you have to not just vote but come, out and volunteer knock on doors. send ...	On the other side we, have Mitt Romney's campaign directly accusing the Obama team the Obama administration of gutting welfare requirements That's, also kind of a signal to their own Republican base to say this is why this campaign is so key why you have to not. just vote but come out and, volunteer knock on doors; sen...	on the other side, we have mitt romney's campaign directly accusing the obama team, the obama administration, of gutting welfare requirements. that's also kind of a signal to their own republican base to say this is why this campaign is so key, why you have to not just vote but come out and volunteer, knock on doors, s...
Charlie Mahtesian?	charlie	Charlie,	charlie mahtesian?
David, can you put this in some kind of context, some historical context? Because, I mean, to me it seems like, you know, in the years that I've covered elections, it seems to me like a threshold has been passed, that it's suddenly no holds barred, everything's in play, no one's responsible for anything. There's no arb...	david can you put this in some kind of context some historical context? because i mean to me it seems like you know in the years that i've. covered. elections it seems to me like a threshold has been passed. that it's suddenly no holds barred everything's in. play no one's responsible for anything there's no arbitrator...	David can you. put this in some. kind of, context. some historical context? Because I mean to me it seems, like you know in the years that I've covered elections it. seems to me like a threshold has been passed that it's suddenly no holds barred everything's in play no one's responsible, for anything There's no arbitra...	david, can you put this in some kind of context, some historical context? because, i mean, to me it seems like, you know, in the years that i've covered elections, it seems to me like a threshold has been passed, that it's suddenly no holds barred, everything's in play, no one's responsible for anything. there's no arb...
But is it any worse this year than in the past? I mean, is it to the level of, you know, historical elections where you had candidates saying any number of things around the turn of the century? I mean, how does this compare?	but is, it any worse this year than in the past? i mean is it to the level of you know historical elections where you had candidates saying any, number of things around the turn of the century? i mean, how does this	But is, it any worse this year than in the past? I mean is it to the level. of you know historical. elections where you had. candidates saying any number of things around the turn of the century? I mean how does this	but is it any worse this year than in the past? i mean, is it to the level of, you know, historical elections where you had candidates saying any number of things around the turn of the century? i mean, how does this compare?
I think compared to historical precedent, certainly going back to the 19th century, even 100 years or so ago, it's not that bad. I'm not saying it's all love and roses out there, but both sides are actually being rather restrained in what they could go after.	i think compared to historical precedent certainly going back to the 19th century even 100 years or so ago it's not that bad i'm not saying it's all love and roses out there. but both sides are actually being rather restrained in what they could. go	I think compared. to historical, precedent certainly going back to the 19th century even 100 years or so ago, it's, not that. bad. I'm not saying it's, all love and, roses out there but, both sides are actually being, rather restrained in what they could go	i think compared to historical precedent, certainly going back to the 19th century, even 100 years or so ago, it's not that bad. i'm not saying it's all love and roses out there, but both sides are actually being rather restrained in what they could go after.
I don't think we're hearing much mainstream talk about, say, Mitt Romney's Mormon faith. On the other side, we're not hearing many attacks about President Obama's one-time college transcripts, which are sort of on the fringes of normal political debate.	i; don't; think, we're hearing much mainstream. talk about, say mitt romney's mormon faith on the, other side we're not hearing. many attacks about president obama's one-time college. transcripts. which are; sort of on the fringes of normal political	I don't, think we're hearing much mainstream, talk about say Mitt Romney's Mormon, faith On the other side we're, not hearing many attacks about, President Obama's one-time college transcripts which are sort of on the fringes of normal, political	i don't think we're hearing much mainstream talk about, say, mitt romney's mormon faith. on the other side, we're not hearing many attacks about president obama's one-time college transcripts, which are sort of on the fringes of normal political debate.
So what I do think is different, though, is the amplification of these negative messages, the fact that anything that gets put out there, when Joe Biden, Vice President Joe Biden makes a remark about voters in chains, quote-unquote, that gets put out there on Twitter, on Facebook. It gets chewed over, pored over on cab...	so what i do think; is different though is. the amplification of these negative messages the fact. that anything that gets put. out there when joe biden vice, president joe biden makes a remark about voters; in chains quote-unquote that gets, put out there on twitter on facebook it gets chewed over pored over on cable ...	So what I do, think is different though is the amplification of these negative messages the fact that anything that gets. put out there when. Joe, Biden Vice President. Joe Biden. makes, a remark about voters in chains quote-unquote that gets put out there on Twitter on Facebook It gets chewed over pored over, on cable...	so what i do think is different, though, is the amplification of these negative messages, the fact that anything that gets put out there, when joe biden, vice president joe biden makes a remark about voters in chains, quote-unquote, that gets put out there on twitter, on facebook. it gets chewed over, pored over on cab...
And I think that's what's really different. But even looking back to Mitt Romney's previous campaigns - say, when he ran for Senate in 1994 in Massachusetts - the Mormon issue was raised explicitly by his opponent, Ted Kennedy, and his surrogates. So I think it actually could be a lot worse this time around.	and; i think that's what's really different but even looking back to mitt romney's previous campaigns - say when he ran for. senate in. 1994 in massachusetts - the mormon, issue was raised explicitly by his opponent ted kennedy and his surrogates so i think, it actually could be a lot worse, this time	And I think that's what's really different But even looking back to Mitt, Romney's previous campaigns - say when he ran for Senate in 1994 in Massachusetts - the Mormon issue was raised explicitly by his opponent Ted Kennedy and his surrogates So I think it actually could be a lot worse this time	and i think that's what's really different. but even looking back to mitt romney's previous campaigns - say, when he ran for senate in 1994 in massachusetts - the mormon issue was raised explicitly by his opponent, ted kennedy, and his surrogates. so i think it actually could be a lot worse this time around.
We want to hear from those of you in the audience who've been involved in political campaigns of one sort or another. If you decided to go negative, why? And how did it work out for you? Give us a call, 800-989-8255. Email talk@npr.org. And Evan's on the line with us from Tucson.	we want to; hear from those of you in; the audience who've been involved in political campaigns of one sort or another if you decided to go negative why? and how did, it work out, for you? give us a call 800-989-8255. email talk@npr.org and evan's on the line with us. from	We. want to hear from those of you in the audience who've been involved in political campaigns of, one sort or. another If, you, decided to go negative why? And how did it work, out for you? Give, us a call 800-989-8255. Email talk@npr.org And Evan's on the line with us from	we want to hear from those of you in the audience who've been involved in political campaigns of one sort or another. if you decided to go negative, why? and how did it work out for you? give us a call, 800-989-8255. email talk@npr.org. and evan's on the line with us from tucson.
Yes, hello. I'm currently managing a primary challenge in Tucson, Arizona, in the Second Congressional District against Ron Barber. And I just wanted to point out that sometimes there is a fine line between negative and pointing out flaws in your opponent's record.	yes hello i'm. currently managing a primary challenge in tucson, arizona in the second congressional district against ron barber and i just. wanted to point out that sometimes there is a fine line between negative and, pointing out flaws. in your opponent's	Yes. hello I'm currently managing, a primary challenge; in Tucson Arizona in the Second Congressional District against Ron Barber And, I just wanted to point out that sometimes there is a fine line between negative and pointing; out flaws in your opponent's	yes, hello. i'm currently managing a primary challenge in tucson, arizona, in the second congressional district against ron barber. and i just wanted to point out that sometimes there is a fine line between negative and pointing out flaws in your opponent's record.
Our opponent voted to exempt the border patrol from environmental regulations 100 miles north of the border, kind of went against his caucus, and with the Tea Party congressional candidate, Rob Bishop - I mean congressman. So we've been accused of going negative, but, you know, our contention is that these are serious ...	our opponent voted to exempt the border patrol from environmental regulations 100 miles north of the border kind of went against his caucus and with the tea party congressional candidate rob bishop - i mean congressman so we've been accused of going negative but you know our contention is that, these are serious issues...	Our opponent voted to exempt the border patrol from environmental regulations 100 miles north of the border kind of went. against his caucus and with the; Tea Party congressional candidate Rob Bishop - I mean congressman So we've been accused of going negative but you know our contention is that these are serious. issu...	our opponent voted to exempt the border patrol from environmental regulations 100 miles north of the border, kind of went against his caucus, and with the tea party congressional candidate, rob bishop - i mean congressman. so we've been accused of going negative, but, you know, our contention is that these are serious ...
Is there a line that you would draw between Gullah speech and just bad English? Which is what some people will hear when they hear this language.	is there a line that you would draw between gullah speech and just bad english? which is. what, some people will hear when they hear this	Is; there a line that you would draw between Gullah speech and just bad English? Which is what some people will. hear when they, hear this	is there a line that you would draw between gullah speech and just bad english? which is what some people will hear when they hear this language.
Absolutely. That is part and parcel of negative campaigning, and I'm of the view there's nothing wrong about that. In fact, voters deserve that kind of comparative choice, and I think usually voters are smart enough to come to a rational decision. Not always. We could each quibble with individual electoral outcomes whe...	absolutely that is part and parcel of negative campaigning and i'm of the view there's nothing wrong about that in fact voters, deserve; that kind of comparative. choice and i, think usually voters are smart enough to, come to a rational decision not. always we could each quibble with individual electoral outcomes wher...	Absolutely That is part and parcel of; negative campaigning and I'm of the view there's nothing wrong about, that In. fact voters deserve that kind of comparative choice and, I think usually voters are smart enough to come to a rational decision; Not always We could each quibble with individual electoral outcomes where...	absolutely. that is part and parcel of negative campaigning, and i'm of the view there's nothing wrong about that. in fact, voters deserve that kind of comparative choice, and i think usually voters are smart enough to come to a rational decision. not always. we could each quibble with individual electoral outcomes whe...
And the race the caller - the contest, the campaign that the caller raises is really interesting because that's probably going to be a rather low-turnout affair. This is an intra-party Democratic primary, and it's a case where a negative attack might go a lot further than, say, a statewide race or even a presidential c...	and the, race. the caller - the, contest the campaign that the caller raises. is really interesting because, that's probably going to be a rather low-turnout affair this is an intra-party democratic primary and it's a case where a negative attack might go a lot further; than say a statewide. race or even a presidential...	And the race the caller - the contest the campaign that the. caller raises is really interesting because that's probably going to be a rather low-turnout affair This is an intra-party Democratic primary and it's a case where a negative attack might go a lot further than say a statewide race or even, a presidential	and the race the caller - the contest, the campaign that the caller raises is really interesting because that's probably going to be a rather low-turnout affair. this is an intra-party democratic primary, and it's a case where a negative attack might go a lot further than, say, a statewide race or even a presidential c...
Thanks very much for the call, Evan.	thanks very much for, the call	Thanks very much for the call	thanks very much for the call, evan.
Thank you.	thank.	Thank	thank you.
And I just wanted to mention there are examples of even when you're mentioning your opponent's records where it is determined afterwards that maybe you went a little over the top. This is a 1988 ad where a PAC that supported George H.W. Bush ran an ad attacking the then Democratic presidential candidate, Michael Dukaki...	and i just wanted to mention, there are, examples of even when you're mentioning. your opponent's records. where it is determined afterwards that maybe you went, a little over the top this is a 1988 ad where a pac that supported george h.w, bush ran an ad. attacking the then democratic presidential candidate michael du...	And I just. wanted to, mention there are examples of even when you're mentioning your opponent's records where it. is determined afterwards that maybe you went a little over the top This is a 1988 ad where a PAC that, supported George H.W Bush ran an ad attacking the then. Democratic presidential candidate, Michael Duk...	and i just wanted to mention there are examples of even when you're mentioning your opponent's records where it is determined afterwards that maybe you went a little over the top. this is a 1988 ad where a pac that supported george h.w. bush ran an ad attacking the then democratic presidential candidate, michael dukaki...