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In 2005, Westergaard was asked by his newspaper Jyllands-Posten to draw the prophet Muhammad, quote, "as you see him," end quote. His cartoon outraged many Muslims who called it blasphemous and offensive. Drawing any images of the prophet Muhammad is prohibited in Islam. Protestors responded by setting fire to Danish e...
in 2005, westergaard was asked by his newspaper jyllands-posten to draw the prophet muhammad quote "as you see him" end quote his cartoon outraged many muslims who called it. blasphemous and offensive drawing any, images of the prophet. muhammad, is prohibited in islam protestors responded by setting fire to danish, em...
In 2005, Westergaard was asked. by his newspaper Jyllands-Posten to draw the prophet Muhammad quote "as you, see, him" end quote His. cartoon outraged many Muslims who called it blasphemous and offensive Drawing any images of the prophet Muhammad is prohibited in Islam, Protestors, responded by setting fire to Danish e...
in 2005, westergaard was asked by his newspaper jyllands-posten to draw the prophet muhammad, quote, "as you see him," end quote. his cartoon outraged many muslims who called it blasphemous and offensive. drawing any images of the prophet muhammad is prohibited in islam. protestors responded by setting fire to danish e...
Westergaard is now under the protection of the Danish Secret Service because of death threats. Kurt Westergaard reached us by phone. Mr. Westergaard, where are you?
westergaard is now, under the protection of the danish secret service because of death threats kurt westergaard reached us by phone mr westergaard, where are
Westergaard is now under the; protection of the Danish Secret Service because of death threats Kurt Westergaard reached us. by phone. Mr Westergaard where, are
westergaard is now under the protection of the danish secret service because of death threats. kurt westergaard reached us by phone. mr. westergaard, where are you?
Well, I cannot tell you that because I am under the protection of the Danish Secret Service. So, I cannot inform you about my position.
well i cannot tell you that because i am under the protection of the danish secret, service so i cannot inform you about my
Well I cannot tell you that because I am under the. protection of the, Danish Secret Service So I cannot inform you. about my
well, i cannot tell you that because i am under the protection of the danish secret service. so, i cannot inform you about my position.
Describe what happened to you on New Year's Day.
describe what happened to you on new year's
Describe what happened to you on New Year's
describe what happened to you on new year's day.
Yes.
yes.
What happened?
what
What
what happened?
I was sitting in our living room with my little grandchild. She's five years old. And then the intruder, he came in. He smashed the window in our garden with a very big axe. So, I turned to the bathroom. And then the man, he started hammering at the bathroom door with his axe. Finally, the police came. I don't know how...
i, was. sitting in, our living room with my little grandchild she's five, years old and then; the intruder he, came in he smashed, the window in our garden. with a very big axe so i turned to the bathroom and then the. man he started hammering at the, bathroom door with his axe finally the. police came i don't, know ho...
I was sitting in our living room with my little grandchild She's. five years old And then the intruder he came in He, smashed. the window in our garden. with, a very big axe So I turned to the bathroom And then the man he started hammering at the bathroom door with his axe Finally the police came I don't know how long ...
i was sitting in our living room with my little grandchild. she's five years old. and then the intruder, he came in. he smashed the window in our garden with a very big axe. so, i turned to the bathroom. and then the man, he started hammering at the bathroom door with his axe. finally, the police came. i don't know how...
You published this cartoon back in 2005, and have you been in physical danger since then?
you published this cartoon. back in, 2005, and have you been in physical danger. since
You published this. cartoon back in 2005, and have you been in physical danger since
you published this cartoon back in 2005, and have you been in physical danger since then?
Oh yes. I have been surveyed by the police and the Secret Service all the way. And now they increase the Secret Service.
oh yes i have been surveyed, by the police and the secret service, all the way and now they increase the secret
Oh; yes, I have been surveyed. by, the police and the Secret, Service all the way And now they increase the Secret
oh yes. i have been surveyed by the police and the secret service all the way. and now they increase the secret service.
You'll have a bodyguard full time.
you'll have a bodyguard full
You'll have a bodyguard full
you'll have a bodyguard full time.
Yes, I suppose so.
yes i suppose
Yes I suppose,
yes, i suppose so.
Well, number one, I was not affected by (with resonance) `trying to sound like him. Now we have these problems we must fa'--some preachers tried to actually imitate the sound of his voice. For me, I think he affected me with respect to make it clear, have the courage not to fuzz it up with all sor...
well number one i was not affected by (with resonance) `trying to sound like him now we have these problems we must fa'--some preachers tried to actually imitate. the sound of his voice for me i think he affected me with respect to make it clear have the courage not. to fuzz it up with all sorts o...
Well number one I was not affected; by (with resonance) `trying to sound like him Now we have these problems, we must fa'--some preachers tried to. actually. imitate the sound of. his voice For me I think he affected me with respect to make it clear have the courage, not to fuzz it up. with all so...
well, number one, i was not affected by (with resonance) `trying to sound like him. now we have these problems we must fa'--some preachers tried to actually imitate the sound of his voice. for me, i think he affected me with respect to make it clear, have the courage not to fuzz it up with all sor...
Sir, finally, which Martin Luther King Jr. speech in particular do you believe best sums up the oratorical skills of this man?
sir finally which, martin luther. king jr speech in particular do you believe best sums, up, the oratorical skills of. this
Sir finally which Martin, Luther King Jr speech in particular do you, believe best; sums up the oratorical skills of this
sir, finally, which martin luther king jr. speech in particular do you believe best sums up the oratorical skills of this man?
Well, let me tell you, you know, when you're having a dive, you score the dive on the degree of difficulty of the dive. When Dr. King stood up at the Riverside Church on a Sun--on that night when he was addressing clergy and laity concerned and he preached a sermon, `a time to end silence,' when he...
well let me tell you you know when you're having a dive you score the dive on the degree of difficulty of the dive when dr king stood up at the. riverside church on a sun--on that night. when he was addressing clergy and laity concerned and he preached a sermon `a time to end silence' when he. gave...
Well let; me tell you you know when you're having a dive you score the dive on the degree of difficulty of the dive When Dr. King stood; up at the Riverside Church on a Sun--on that night when. he was. addressing. clergy, and laity. concerned and he preached a sermon `a time to end silence' when he...
well, let me tell you, you know, when you're having a dive, you score the dive on the degree of difficulty of the dive. when dr. king stood up at the riverside church on a sun--on that night when he was addressing clergy and laity concerned and he preached a sermon, `a time to end silence,' when he...
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We were taking the black young men who have been crippled by our society and sending them 8,000 miles away to guarantee liberties in Southeast Asia which they have not found in southwest Georgia and East Harlem.
we were taking the black young men. who have been crippled by our society and sending them 8,000 miles away to guarantee liberties in southeast asia which they have not found in southwest georgia and east
We, were taking the black young men who have, been crippled by our society and sending them 8,000 miles away to guarantee liberties in Southeast Asia which they have, not, found in southwest Georgia and East,
we were taking the black young men who have been crippled by our society and sending them 8,000 miles away to guarantee liberties in southeast asia which they have not found in southwest georgia and east harlem.
But again, you've got to think about `I see the promised land.' That one is a sermon that you really discover that no matter what they say about the rest of us preachers, King was in a class by himself.
but again you've, got to think about, `i see the promised land' that one, is a sermon that you really discover that. no matter what they say about, the. rest of us preachers, king, was in a class by
But again you've got to think about `I see the promised land' That one is a sermon that you really discover that no matter what. they say about the rest of us preachers King was in a class by
but again, you've got to think about `i see the promised land.' that one is a sermon that you really discover that no matter what they say about the rest of us preachers, king was in a class by himself.
Thank you, sir.
thank you
Thank you
thank you, sir.
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That was NPR's Phillip Martin, speaking with Reverend James Forbes Jr. Reverend Forbes is a senior minister at New York's Riverside Church.
that was npr's phillip martin, speaking with reverend james forbes jr reverend forbes is a senior minister at new york's riverside
That was NPR's Phillip; Martin speaking with Reverend James Forbes Jr Reverend Forbes is a senior minister at New York's Riverside
that was npr's phillip martin, speaking with reverend james forbes jr. reverend forbes is a senior minister at new york's riverside church.
This is TALK OF THE NATION, I'm Neal Conan in Washington.
this is. talk of the nation i'm neal conan in
This is TALK OF THE NATION I'm Neal Conan, in
this is talk of the nation, i'm neal conan in washington.
Just 200 years ago, when we sat down to lunch, we knew where everything in the room came from - the cheese, the chair and the silverware. So where did the tuna in your lunch today come from, and the toaster, and for that matter the bread? These days, we're alienated from the ingredients of our lives, even as many of us...
just 200 years ago. when we. sat down to lunch we knew, where everything in the room. came from - the cheese the chair and the silverware so, where did the tuna in your lunch today; come from and the toaster and for that matter the bread? these days we're alienated from the ingredients, of our lives even as many, of us...
Just 200 years ago when we sat down, to lunch we knew where everything in, the. room came from, - the cheese the chair and the, silverware So where did, the tuna, in your lunch today come from and the toaster and for. that matter the bread? These days, we're, alienated from the ingredients of our lives even, as many of...
just 200 years ago, when we sat down to lunch, we knew where everything in the room came from - the cheese, the chair and the silverware. so where did the tuna in your lunch today come from, and the toaster, and for that matter the bread? these days, we're alienated from the ingredients of our lives, even as many of us...
He observes the inspiration, manufacture and meaning of a new cookie called the Moment. He watches accountants and transmission engineers, and along the way he wonders what makes our work joyous or meaningful. What makes it worth it? So tell us: What do people just not get about your job? What don't they see? Truckers ...
he observes the inspiration. manufacture and meaning of a new cookie called the moment he watches accountants and transmission engineers and along the way he wonders what makes our work joyous. or meaningful what makes it worth it? so tell us: what do people just not get about. your job? what don't they see? truckers a...
He. observes the inspiration manufacture and meaning of a new cookie called the Moment He watches accountants and; transmission engineers and along the, way he wonders. what makes our work. joyous or meaningful What makes. it worth. it? So tell us: What do people just not get about your, job? What don't they see? Truck...
he observes the inspiration, manufacture and meaning of a new cookie called the moment. he watches accountants and transmission engineers, and along the way he wonders what makes our work joyous or meaningful. what makes it worth it? so tell us: what do people just not get about your job? what don't they see? truckers ...
And later, from work to play - sure, we know you'll remember the perfect honeymoon on the beach, but we want to hear about that most memorable family vacation disaster. Did the kids get chicken pox at the Grand Canyon? Which one lives on in family lore? Email us, talk@npr.org.
and later from work to play - sure we know you'll remember the perfect honeymoon on the beach but we want to hear about that most memorable family vacation disaster did the kids get chicken pox at the, grand canyon? which, one lives on in family lore? email us
And. later from work to play - sure we know you'll remember the perfect honeymoon on the beach, but we want to hear about that most memorable family vacation disaster Did the kids get chicken pox at the Grand, Canyon? Which one lives on in family lore? Email us
and later, from work to play - sure, we know you'll remember the perfect honeymoon on the beach, but we want to hear about that most memorable family vacation disaster. did the kids get chicken pox at the grand canyon? which one lives on in family lore? email us, talk@npr.org.
But first, the joys and sorrows of - "The Pleasures And Sorrows Of Work." Alain de Botton is the author of a number of books on the philosophy of everyday life. And he joins us today from the studios of the BBC in London. Nice to have you back on TALK OF THE NATION.
but first the; joys and sorrows of - "the, pleasures, and sorrows of work" alain, de botton, is the author of a number of books on the philosophy, of everyday life and he joins us today from the studios of the bbc in london nice to have, you back on talk of the
But first the joys and sorrows of - "The Pleasures And Sorrows Of Work" Alain de Botton is the author of a number of books on the philosophy of everyday life, And he joins us today from the, studios of the BBC in London Nice to have you back. on TALK, OF THE
but first, the joys and sorrows of - "the pleasures and sorrows of work." alain de botton is the author of a number of books on the philosophy of everyday life. and he joins us today from the studios of the bbc in london. nice to have you back on talk of the nation.
Thanks very much. Thanks for having me.
thanks very much thanks for having,
Thanks very. much Thanks for having
thanks very much. thanks for having me.
And let me return to that unfortunate tuna for a moment. From the moment it's lifted out of the water in the Indian Ocean to the supermarket shelf in Bristol, 50 hours, which is an amazing - and as you point out - almost invisible accomplishment.
and let me return to that unfortunate tuna for a, moment from the moment it's lifted out of the; water; in the indian ocean to. the supermarket shelf in bristol, 50 hours which is an amazing. - and, as you point out - almost invisible
And let me return. to that unfortunate. tuna for a moment From, the moment it's lifted out of the water. in the Indian Ocean to the. supermarket shelf in Bristol 50 hours which is an. amazing - and as you point out - almost invisible
and let me return to that unfortunate tuna for a moment. from the moment it's lifted out of the water in the indian ocean to the supermarket shelf in bristol, 50 hours, which is an amazing - and as you point out - almost invisible accomplishment.
That's right. I mean it's, you know, this is in a culture. This is the Indian Ocean, where things generally move pretty slowly. And you have a kind of VIP lane for the tuna. I mean, the tuna is sent by - often hydrofoil or a high-powered boat from the place where it's caught to the airport, directly into the hole of an...
that's right i mean it's you know this is in a culture this is. the indian ocean where things generally move pretty, slowly and you have a. kind. of vip lane for the tuna i mean the tuna is sent by - often hydrofoil or a high-powered boat; from the place where it's caught to the airport directly into the hole of an air...
That's right I mean it's you know this is, in a culture This is the Indian Ocean where things generally move pretty slowly And you have a kind of, VIP lane for the tuna I mean the tuna is sent by - often, hydrofoil or a high-powered boat from the place where it's caught to the airport directly into the hole of an aircr...
that's right. i mean it's, you know, this is in a culture. this is the indian ocean, where things generally move pretty slowly. and you have a kind of vip lane for the tuna. i mean, the tuna is sent by - often hydrofoil or a high-powered boat from the place where it's caught to the airport, directly into the hole of an...
And it's just - there's something that appealed to me about the idea of tracing fish in a plane. You know, most airplanes that you take, most intercontinental flights, will have fish in the hold. And I don't know, that image of fish up in the sky seemed to me to reflect some of the beauty, craziness, dedication of the ...
and it's just, - there's something that appealed to me about the idea, of tracing fish in a plane you know most airplanes that you take most intercontinental flights will have fish in the. hold and i don't know that image of fish up in. the sky seemed to me to, reflect some, of the beauty, craziness dedication of the m...
And it's just - there's. something that appealed to me about the idea of tracing fish in a plane You know most, airplanes that you take most. intercontinental flights will. have, fish in the hold, And, I don't know that. image of fish up in. the sky seemed, to me to reflect some of; the beauty craziness. dedication of ...
and it's just - there's something that appealed to me about the idea of tracing fish in a plane. you know, most airplanes that you take, most intercontinental flights, will have fish in the hold. and i don't know, that image of fish up in the sky seemed to me to reflect some of the beauty, craziness, dedication of the ...
And the modern world of work, you suggest, we celebrate doctors, lawyers, the people we see on television. We don't celebrate the kind of people who actually do most of our everyday work.
and the modern world of work you suggest we celebrate doctors lawyers the people we see on television we don't celebrate the kind of people who actually do; most of our, everyday
And the modern world of work you suggest we. celebrate doctors lawyers the people we see on television, We don't celebrate the kind, of people who actually do most of our everyday
and the modern world of work, you suggest, we celebrate doctors, lawyers, the people we see on television. we don't celebrate the kind of people who actually do most of our everyday work.
There is, I think, a curious silence, particularly in kind of works of high culture, about how the world is actually made and functions. Of course, we reflect the working world through our economic analysis, through the business pages of the newspapers, through business analysis, but for what work really feels like, th...
there is i think a, curious silence particularly in kind of. works of high culture about how, the world is actually made and functions of course we reflect the working world through our economic; analysis through the business pages of the newspapers through business analysis. but for what. work really feels like there'...
There is I think a curious silence particularly, in kind of works of high culture about how the world is actually made and functions Of course. we reflect the working world through our economic analysis through the business; pages of the newspapers through business analysis but. for what work really feels like there's ...
there is, i think, a curious silence, particularly in kind of works of high culture, about how the world is actually made and functions. of course, we reflect the working world through our economic analysis, through the business pages of the newspapers, through business analysis, but for what work really feels like, th...
But one of the things that you don't get to see is that actually, people are going to the office, the business park, the factory. There's an odd silence. We somehow don't hold up a mirror to what we're actually doing.
but one of the things that, you don't get; to see is that, actually people are, going to the office the business park the factory there's an odd silence we somehow don't hold up a mirror to what we're actually
But one of the things that you don't get to see is that actually, people are going, to the office the. business park; the factory There's an odd silence We somehow don't hold up a mirror to. what we're actually
but one of the things that you don't get to see is that actually, people are going to the office, the business park, the factory. there's an odd silence. we somehow don't hold up a mirror to what we're actually doing.
And there is a fascinating passage when you visit the biscuit company -that's a cookie company for American consumption. And this is a company that is in the process of trying out a new product, and I guess we should not be shocked that the product was developed not in a bakery or in a kitchen but in a focus group.
and there is a fascinating, passage when you. visit the biscuit company -that's a cookie company for american consumption. and this is, a, company, that is, in the process of trying out a. new. product and i guess we should not be shocked that the product was developed not in a bakery or in. a kitchen but in a focus
And there is a fascinating passage when you visit the biscuit company, -that's a. cookie company for American consumption. And this is a company that is in the. process of trying out a new product and I guess we should not be shocked that. the product, was; developed not in a bakery or in a kitchen but, in a focus
and there is a fascinating passage when you visit the biscuit company -that's a cookie company for american consumption. and this is a company that is in the process of trying out a new product, and i guess we should not be shocked that the product was developed not in a bakery or in a kitchen but in a focus group.
Oh, Neal, it is my distinct pleasure to speak with you finally.
oh neal it is my distinct pleasure to speak with you
Oh Neal it is my distinct pleasure. to speak with you.
oh, neal, it is my distinct pleasure to speak with you finally.
Thank you.
thank
Thank
thank you.
Bye, bye. Let's talk with Bill. Bill's with us from San Antonio, Texas.
bye bye. let's talk with bill bill's with us, from san antonio
Bye bye, Let's talk. with Bill Bill's with us from San Antonio
bye, bye. let's talk with bill. bill's with us from san antonio, texas.
Egypt has many cultures. You know, some of them come from the Islamic era, others come from the Mediterranean, others from the pharaohs. Then we have to respect them.
egypt has many cultures you know some. of them come from, the islamic era others come from the mediterranean others from the pharaohs then we. have to respect
Egypt has many cultures You, know some of them come from the. Islamic era others come, from the Mediterranean others from the pharaohs; Then we have to respect.
egypt has many cultures. you know, some of them come from the islamic era, others come from the mediterranean, others from the pharaohs. then we have to respect them.
The niqab debate has produced strange bedfellows, with civil rights advocates standing with the Islamists in defense of a woman's right to cover her face.
the, niqab debate has produced strange bedfellows with civil rights advocates standing with the islamists in defense of. a woman's right; to cover her,
The niqab debate, has produced strange bedfellows with civil rights advocates standing with, the Islamists in defense of a woman's right to cover her
the niqab debate has produced strange bedfellows, with civil rights advocates standing with the islamists in defense of a woman's right to cover her face.
Hossam Bahgat at the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights said the ban further discriminates against women who are already struggling to succeed in a heavily patriarchal society.
hossam bahgat at the egyptian initiative for. personal rights said the ban further discriminates against women who are already, struggling to succeed, in a heavily patriarchal
Hossam Bahgat at the Egyptian, Initiative for Personal Rights said the ban. further; discriminates against women who are already. struggling to succeed in, a heavily patriarchal
hossam bahgat at the egyptian initiative for personal rights said the ban further discriminates against women who are already struggling to succeed in a heavily patriarchal society.
On the other hand, editor Rania al-Malky wrote in the English-language Egypt Daily News that rejecting the ban on the grounds that it deprives women of opportunity would only perpetuate what she calls this cycle of psychological and social violence in the name of religion.
on the other hand editor rania al-malky wrote in the english-language egypt daily news that rejecting the ban on the grounds that it deprives women of opportunity would only perpetuate what she calls this, cycle of psychological and social violence in the name of
On the other hand editor Rania al-Malky wrote in the English-language Egypt Daily. News. that rejecting the ban on the grounds that it deprives women of opportunity would only perpetuate what she calls this cycle of psychological and social violence in the; name of
on the other hand, editor rania al-malky wrote in the english-language egypt daily news that rejecting the ban on the grounds that it deprives women of opportunity would only perpetuate what she calls this cycle of psychological and social violence in the name of religion.
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On the street, a number of niqab wearers hope that solutions might yet be found. They said they'd be happy to lift their veils so a guard could identify them at the gate, and also during exam time so that their teachers could be sure who was taking the test.
on the street a. number of, niqab wearers hope that solutions might yet be found, they said they'd be happy to lift their veils so a guard could. identify them at the. gate and also. during. exam time so that their, teachers could be sure who was taking the
On the street a number of niqab wearers hope, that solutions might yet be found They said, they'd be happy to lift; their veils. so a guard could identify them at the gate and, also during exam time so that their teachers could be sure who. was taking the
on the street, a number of niqab wearers hope that solutions might yet be found. they said they'd be happy to lift their veils so a guard could identify them at the gate, and also during exam time so that their teachers could be sure who was taking the test.
But if history is any guide, this debate is about much larger issues — such as where the Middle East's most populous country is heading, socially and culturally. It's a debate not likely to end anytime soon.
but if history. is any guide this debate is about much larger issues — such as where the middle east's most populous country is heading socially and culturally it's a debate not likely to end anytime
But if history is any guide this debate is, about much larger issues — such as, where, the Middle East's most populous country is heading socially, and culturally It's a. debate, not likely, to end anytime
but if history is any guide, this debate is about much larger issues — such as where the middle east's most populous country is heading, socially and culturally. it's a debate not likely to end anytime soon.
Peter Kenyon, NPR News, Cairo.
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The nine-to-six ruling rejected the Berlusconi legal team's claim that the prime minister is above the law, at least while in office. A visibly furious Berlusconi lashed out at those he claims have been waging a witch hunt against him
the nine-to-six ruling rejected, the berlusconi legal team's claim that the prime minister is above the law at least while in office a visibly furious berlusconi, lashed, out at those he claims have been waging a witch hunt against
The nine-to-six ruling rejected the Berlusconi legal team's claim that. the prime minister is above the law at least while in office A visibly furious Berlusconi lashed out at those he claims have been waging, a witch hunt against,
the nine-to-six ruling rejected the berlusconi legal team's claim that the prime minister is above the law, at least while in office. a visibly furious berlusconi lashed out at those he claims have been waging a witch hunt against him
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The statement enraged the opposition MP Rosy Bindi, a woman unlike the young women Berlusconi is often seen with.
the statement enraged the opposition, mp rosy bindi a woman unlike the young women berlusconi is often seen
The statement enraged the opposition MP Rosy Bindi a woman unlike the young women Berlusconi is often seen
the statement enraged the opposition mp rosy bindi, a woman unlike the young women berlusconi is often seen with.
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The center-left opposition is bracing for a period of political turmoil. But Dario Franceschini, leader of the Democratic Party, hailed the ruling as a sign that Italian democracy can resist what he called the prime minister's abuse of power.
the center-left opposition is, bracing for a period of political turmoil but dario franceschini leader of the democratic party hailed the ruling as a sign that. italian democracy can resist what he called the prime minister's abuse of
The center-left opposition is bracing for. a period of political turmoil But Dario Franceschini. leader, of the Democratic Party hailed the ruling as a sign that Italian democracy, can resist. what he called the prime minister's abuse of
the center-left opposition is bracing for a period of political turmoil. but dario franceschini, leader of the democratic party, hailed the ruling as a sign that italian democracy can resist what he called the prime minister's abuse of power.
(Through translator) The constitutional court has re-established the principle of equality of all citizens before the law. We are all equal, even the powerful ones.
(through translator) the constitutional court has re-established the, principle; of equality of all citizens before the law we. are all equal even the, powerful
(Through translator) The constitutional court has re-established, the, principle of, equality of all citizens before the law We are all equal even, the powerful
(through translator) the constitutional court has re-established the principle of equality of all citizens before the law. we are all equal, even the powerful ones.
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In Southern California, alleged members of a Latino street gang are being charged with drug trafficking and civil rights violations. Prosecutors say the Azusa 13 gang waged a long campaign to rid their community of African-Americans.
in southern california alleged members, of a latino street gang are, being charged with drug. trafficking and civil rights. violations, prosecutors say the azusa 13 gang waged a, long, campaign to rid their community of
In Southern California alleged members of a Latino street gang are. being charged with. drug, trafficking and civil rights violations Prosecutors say the Azusa 13 gang waged a long campaign to rid their, community of
in southern california, alleged members of a latino street gang are being charged with drug trafficking and civil rights violations. prosecutors say the azusa 13 gang waged a long campaign to rid their community of african-americans.
NPR's Mandalit Del Barco reports on two decades of intimidation and violence.
npr's mandalit del, barco reports on two decades of intimidation and
NPR's Mandalit Del Barco reports on two decades of intimidation; and
npr's mandalit del barco reports on two decades of intimidation and violence.
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Azusa is a small, working-class city along the train tracks in the San Gabriel Valley, just 25 miles east of Los Angeles. This is where members of the Varrio Azusa 13 Gang monopolized sales of cocaine, heroin and meth, says U.S. Attorney Andre Birotte.
azusa is a small working-class city along the train tracks in the san gabriel. valley, just 25 miles, east, of; los angeles this is where members of the. varrio, azusa 13 gang monopolized, sales of cocaine heroin and meth, says u.s attorney andre
Azusa is a small working-class city along the train tracks. in the. San Gabriel Valley just 25 miles east of Los Angeles This is. where members of the Varrio Azusa 13 Gang monopolized sales of cocaine heroin and meth says U.S Attorney Andre
azusa is a small, working-class city along the train tracks in the san gabriel valley, just 25 miles east of los angeles. this is where members of the varrio azusa 13 gang monopolized sales of cocaine, heroin and meth, says u.s. attorney andre birotte.
This gang has waged an insidious, two-decade campaign of violence fueled not only by drug dealing, but by racial animus and hatred.
this gang has waged an insidious two-decade campaign of violence fueled not only by drug dealing but by racial animus and
This gang has waged an insidious two-decade campaign of violence fueled not only by drug dealing but by, racial animus and
this gang has waged an insidious, two-decade campaign of violence fueled not only by drug dealing, but by racial animus and hatred.
The 51 defendants are being charged with federal racketeering and also civil rights violations. Birotte says since 1992, they've terrorized Azusa's black residents.
the 51 defendants are being charged with federal racketeering and. also civil rights violations birotte says since 1992, they've, terrorized azusa's black
The 51 defendants are being charged. with federal racketeering and also civil rights, violations Birotte says since 1992, they've terrorized Azusa's black
the 51 defendants are being charged with federal racketeering and also civil rights violations. birotte says since 1992, they've terrorized azusa's black residents.
This gang made a decision, what are we going to do about the African-Americans in this community? We need to get rid of them. And I mean, they made no bones about it, confronting African-Americans in the city of Azusa to get out - you're not welcome here. And they were explicit, racial epithets - F-the-N's, you N's are...
this gang made a decision what are we going, to do about the african-americans in this community? we need to, get rid of them and i mean they made; no bones about it confronting african-americans in the city, of azusa to get out - you're not welcome here and they were explicit racial epithets - f-the-n's you n's are no...
This gang made a decision what are we going to do about the African-Americans in this community? We need. to get rid of them And I mean they made no bones about it confronting African-Americans in the city of Azusa to get out - you're, not welcome here And they were explicit racial epithets - F-the-N's, you N's are not...
this gang made a decision, what are we going to do about the african-americans in this community? we need to get rid of them. and i mean, they made no bones about it, confronting african-americans in the city of azusa to get out - you're not welcome here. and they were explicit, racial epithets - f-the-n's, you n's are...
Birotte says gang members intimidated, beat, robbed and kidnapped black residents, and even murdered a teenager. Azusa police and federal agents interviewed informants, witnesses and victims to collect evidence that Azusa 13 members paid taxes to the Mexican mafia prison gang for narcotics sales.
birotte says gang members intimidated beat; robbed and kidnapped black residents and even murdered a teenager azusa police and federal agents interviewed informants witnesses and victims to collect evidence that azusa 13 members paid taxes to the mexican mafia prison gang for narcotics
Birotte says gang members intimidated beat robbed and kidnapped. black residents and even murdered a teenager Azusa police and federal agents interviewed informants witnesses and. victims to collect evidence that Azusa 13 members paid taxes to the Mexican mafia prison gang for narcotics
birotte says gang members intimidated, beat, robbed and kidnapped black residents, and even murdered a teenager. azusa police and federal agents interviewed informants, witnesses and victims to collect evidence that azusa 13 members paid taxes to the mexican mafia prison gang for narcotics sales.
Police Chief Robert Garcia says targeting blacks was part of their business plan.
police chief robert garcia says targeting blacks. was part, of their business
Police Chief Robert Garcia says targeting blacks was part. of their business
police chief robert garcia says targeting blacks was part of their business plan.
Some of it is just racial prejudice. But some of it does interfere with the business enterprise of the drug sales.
some of it is just racial prejudice but some of it, does interfere with the business enterprise of the drug
Some of it is, just racial prejudice, But some of it. does interfere with the business, enterprise of the drug
some of it is just racial prejudice. but some of it does interfere with the business enterprise of the drug sales.
They want to make sure they had the strong market share.
they want to make sure they had the strong market
They want to make sure they had the strong market
they want to make sure they had the strong market share.
LaLisa Morgan has lived with her family in Azusa for the past 10 years. Sitting at a city park, she tries to make sense of the gang's game plan.
lalisa morgan has lived with her family in azusa, for the. past 10 years sitting at a city park she tries to make sense of the gang's game
LaLisa, Morgan, has lived with her family. in Azusa for the past, 10 years. Sitting at, a city, park she tries to make sense of the. gang's game
lalisa morgan has lived with her family in azusa for the past 10 years. sitting at a city park, she tries to make sense of the gang's game plan.
They want to make sure, even if I'm not black - I'm black but I'm not gang affiliated. I may have relatives who are gang affiliated so therefore, I can't be allowed to stay here because my relatives may come visit me and infiltrate this area.
they want to make sure even if i'm not black - i'm black but i'm not gang affiliated i may have relatives who are gang, affiliated so therefore i can't be allowed to stay here because. my relatives may come visit me and infiltrate this
They, want to make sure. even if I'm not black - I'm black but I'm not gang affiliated I; may have relatives who are gang affiliated so therefore I can't be allowed to stay. here because my relatives may. come visit me and, infiltrate, this
they want to make sure, even if i'm not black - i'm black but i'm not gang affiliated. i may have relatives who are gang affiliated so therefore, i can't be allowed to stay here because my relatives may come visit me and infiltrate this area.
As a social worker, Morgan says she's sometimes afraid to go into certain parts of Azusa, and her children have been harassed.
as a social worker morgan says she's sometimes afraid to go into certain parts, of azusa and her children have been
As. a social worker Morgan says she's sometimes afraid to go into certain parts of Azusa and her; children have been
as a social worker, morgan says she's sometimes afraid to go into certain parts of azusa, and her children have been harassed.
My son was jumped in second grade.
my, son was jumped in second
My son was jumped in second
my son was jumped in second grade.
She says her older sons are also constantly threatened by gang members.
she says her; older sons are also, constantly threatened by gang
She says her older sons are also constantly threatened by gang
she says her older sons are also constantly threatened by gang members.
My son said, oh, if you look at them back, they sweat you, but if you look down like you're scared, then they kind of leave you alone.
my son said oh if you look at them back they sweat you but. if, you look down like you're scared then; they. kind of leave you
My son said oh if you look at them back they sweat you but if you look down like you're scared then they kind of leave you
my son said, oh, if you look at them back, they sweat you, but if you look down like you're scared, then they kind of leave you alone.
The hate crimes were even worse when Morgan's friend Claudia Owens-Shields moved to Azusa in the late 1990s. She remembers one night when three African-Americans families were firebombed.
the hate crimes were. even worse when morgan's friend claudia owens-shields moved to azusa in the late 1990s she remembers one night. when three african-americans families were
The hate crimes were even worse when Morgan's friend Claudia Owens-Shields moved, to Azusa in, the late 1990s She remembers one night when three African-Americans families were
the hate crimes were even worse when morgan's friend claudia owens-shields moved to azusa in the late 1990s. she remembers one night when three african-americans families were firebombed.
Molotov cocktails were thrown into their homes.
molotov cocktails were thrown into their
Molotov cocktails were thrown into their
molotov cocktails were thrown into their homes.
After that, the city created a Human Relations Commission that Owens-Shields now coordinates. LaLisa Morgan is a commissioner. Every year, residents gather for a peace rally, and high school students get trained in tolerance and leadership. Owens-Shields and the police chief say these efforts have helped reduce hate cr...
after that the city created a. human relations commission that owens-shields now. coordinates lalisa morgan, is a commissioner every year residents gather. for a peace rally and high school students get trained in tolerance and leadership owens-shields and the, police, chief say these efforts have helped reduce hate cr...
After that the city. created a Human, Relations, Commission that Owens-Shields now coordinates LaLisa Morgan is a commissioner Every year residents. gather for a. peace rally and high school students get, trained in tolerance and leadership Owens-Shields, and the police chief say these efforts have helped reduce hate c...
after that, the city created a human relations commission that owens-shields now coordinates. lalisa morgan is a commissioner. every year, residents gather for a peace rally, and high school students get trained in tolerance and leadership. owens-shields and the police chief say these efforts have helped reduce hate cr...
I know that we're making a difference, but I don't feel like this indictment is a reason to get comfortable. This is an amazing victory. We won this battle in an ongoing war.
i know that. we're making a difference but i don't; feel like this indictment. is a reason to get comfortable this is an amazing victory we; won this battle in an ongoing
I know that we're making a difference but I don't feel like this. indictment is a reason to get comfortable This is an amazing, victory We won this battle in an ongoing
i know that we're making a difference, but i don't feel like this indictment is a reason to get comfortable. this is an amazing victory. we won this battle in an ongoing war.
Oh, yes. The cartoon was a picture of a terrorist who looked like he was coming down from the mountains in Afghanistan. And in his turban he had a bomb. And under the bomb was the holy (unintelligible) inscription: There is only one God, Allah, and Muhammad is his prophet.
oh, yes, the cartoon was a picture. of a terrorist who looked like he was coming down from the mountains in afghanistan and in his turban he had a. bomb and under the bomb, was. the holy (unintelligible) inscription: there is, only one god allah and muhammad. is his
Oh yes The, cartoon was a picture of a terrorist who looked like he was coming down from the mountains in Afghanistan And in his turban he had a bomb And under the bomb was the holy (unintelligible) inscription: There is only one God Allah and Muhammad is his
oh, yes. the cartoon was a picture of a terrorist who looked like he was coming down from the mountains in afghanistan. and in his turban he had a bomb. and under the bomb was the holy (unintelligible) inscription: there is only one god, allah, and muhammad is his prophet.
Were you actually depicting Muhammad the prophet?
were you actually depicting muhammad the
Were, you actually depicting Muhammad the
were you actually depicting muhammad the prophet?
I don't know. Somebody says it's Muhammad. I always say I don't know who it is. I think it is, first of all, a terrorist. And, well, I don't know anymore.
i don't know somebody says it's muhammad i always say i don't know who it is i think it is first, of all a, terrorist and well i don't know
I don't know Somebody says it's Muhammad, I always say I don't know who it is I, think it is first of all a terrorist And; well I don't know
i don't know. somebody says it's muhammad. i always say i don't know who it is. i think it is, first of all, a terrorist. and, well, i don't know anymore.
So, you were not aware that this cartoon would set off such a controversy.
so you were not aware that this cartoon would set off such a
So you were not aware that this cartoon would set off such a
so, you were not aware that this cartoon would set off such a controversy.
Well, that was a surprise, but I don't think I can do anything about that.
well that was. a surprise but; i; don't think i can do anything about,
Well that was a surprise but I don't think I can. do, anything about
well, that was a surprise, but i don't think i can do anything about that.
How has your life changed?
how. has your life
How has, your life.
how has your life changed?
Well, the rest of my life, I'm sure I've got to live with bodyguards. I'm also 75 years old, so, you know, my time is limited. But what is left I can spend with Secret Service bodyguards.
well the rest of my life i'm sure i've got to live with bodyguards i'm. also 75 years old so you know my time is limited, but what is left i can spend with secret service
Well the rest of my. life I'm, sure I've got to live with bodyguards I'm also 75 years old so you know my time is limited But what is left I can spend with Secret Service
well, the rest of my life, i'm sure i've got to live with bodyguards. i'm also 75 years old, so, you know, my time is limited. but what is left i can spend with secret service bodyguards.
You must miss your normal life.
you must miss, your normal
You must miss your normal,
you must miss your normal life.
Yes, in a way, I do, perhaps. But, nevertheless, with the bodyguards I can go everywhere.
yes in a way i do perhaps but nevertheless. with, the bodyguards i can go
Yes; in a way I do perhaps But nevertheless with the; bodyguards, I can go
yes, in a way, i do, perhaps. but, nevertheless, with the bodyguards i can go everywhere.
Are you still working as a cartoonist?
are you still working as. a
Are you still working as a
are you still working as a cartoonist?
Yes, I am.
yes i
Yes I
yes, i am.
When you do drawings now, do you think twice about what you do?
when you do drawings now do you think twice. about what you
When, you do drawings now do, you think twice about what you
when you do drawings now, do you think twice about what you do?
No. Well, of course, I've got to think about what to draw 'cause the - but I draw what I like to draw. Then it must be the editor's job to decide whether to use it or not.
no well of course i've got to think about what to draw 'cause the - but i draw what i like to draw then it must be; the editor's job to, decide; whether to use it or
No Well of; course I've. got to think about. what to draw; 'cause the - but I, draw what I like to draw Then it must be the editor's job to decide whether to, use. it or
no. well, of course, i've got to think about what to draw 'cause the - but i draw what i like to draw. then it must be the editor's job to decide whether to use it or not.
But on the other hand, I mean, you know, given that this one cartoon that you say is only being interpreted as one of Muhammad because it appeared under the headline "The Face of Muhammad," your subject matter, are you now more prone to go to less controversial subjects?
but on the other, hand i mean you know given that this one cartoon that you say is only being interpreted as, one of muhammad, because it appeared under the headline "the face, of muhammad" your subject matter are you now more prone to go to less controversial
But on the other hand I mean you know given that this one cartoon that you say is, only being interpreted as one of Muhammad because. it appeared. under the headline "The Face of Muhammad" your subject matter are you now more prone to go to less, controversial
but on the other hand, i mean, you know, given that this one cartoon that you say is only being interpreted as one of muhammad because it appeared under the headline "the face of muhammad," your subject matter, are you now more prone to go to less controversial subjects?
No, I don't think so. You know, I am soon 75 years old and at that age you don't have so much to risk. You are not so much afraid anymore.
no, i, don't think so you, know i am soon 75 years old. and at that age you don't have so much to, risk you are not so much afraid
No I don't think so You know I am, soon 75 years old; and at that age you don't. have so much to risk You. are not. so much afraid
no, i don't think so. you know, i am soon 75 years old and at that age you don't have so much to risk. you are not so much afraid anymore.
Cartoonist Kurt Westergaard. His 2005 cartoon depicting a terrorist that ran under the headline "The Face of Muhammad" was widely condemned by many Muslims. On New Year's Day he was attacked in his home. He phoned us from an undisclosed location.
cartoonist kurt westergaard his. 2005 cartoon depicting a terrorist that ran under the headline "the face of muhammad" was widely condemned by many muslims on new year's day he was attacked in his home he phoned us from an undisclosed
Cartoonist, Kurt Westergaard His 2005 cartoon, depicting a terrorist that ran under the headline "The Face of Muhammad" was widely condemned by many Muslims On New Year's Day he was attacked in his home He phoned. us from an, undisclosed
cartoonist kurt westergaard. his 2005 cartoon depicting a terrorist that ran under the headline "the face of muhammad" was widely condemned by many muslims. on new year's day he was attacked in his home. he phoned us from an undisclosed location.
This is Weekend Edition from NPR News. I'm Scott Simon. Coming up, earning a degree and breaking a traditional stereotype. But first, President Pervez Musharraf stepped down as leader of Pakistan on Monday. The campaign to succeed him is already under way. One of the best-known candidates is Asif Ali Zardari. Mr. Zarda...
this is weekend edition from npr news i'm scott simon coming up earning a degree. and breaking, a traditional stereotype but, first president pervez musharraf stepped down as leader of pakistan on monday the campaign to succeed him is already. under way one of the best-known candidates is asif. ali zardari mr zardari, ...
This is Weekend Edition from NPR News I'm Scott, Simon Coming up earning a degree and breaking a, traditional. stereotype. But first President Pervez. Musharraf stepped down as leader of Pakistan on Monday The campaign to succeed him. is already under way One. of the best-known candidates is Asif. Ali Zardari Mr Zardar...
this is weekend edition from npr news. i'm scott simon. coming up, earning a degree and breaking a traditional stereotype. but first, president pervez musharraf stepped down as leader of pakistan on monday. the campaign to succeed him is already under way. one of the best-known candidates is asif ali zardari. mr. zarda...
Thank you, Scott.
thank you
Thank you
thank you, scott.
What do you want to achieve as president of Pakistan?
what do you want to achieve as president of
What do you want to achieve as president of
what do you want to achieve as president of pakistan?
Full democracy. The major goal of my wife and the Peoples Party was always to bring democracy to Pakistan. We succeeded to a certain extent, and the journey continues. We get total democracy, we get a civilian president in the office of the presidency, and then from there on we develop democracy in Pakistan.
full democracy the. major goal of my wife and the peoples party was always to, bring. democracy, to pakistan we succeeded to a certain extent and the journey continues we get total democracy. we get a, civilian president in the office of; the presidency; and then from there on we, develop democracy in
Full democracy The major goal of my wife and the Peoples Party was always to bring democracy to Pakistan We succeeded to a, certain, extent and the journey continues We get total democracy we get a civilian president in, the office of the presidency, and then. from there on we develop democracy in
full democracy. the major goal of my wife and the peoples party was always to bring democracy to pakistan. we succeeded to a certain extent, and the journey continues. we get total democracy, we get a civilian president in the office of the presidency, and then from there on we develop democracy in pakistan.
And how do you envision your country's relationship with the United States?
and how do you envision your, country's relationship with the united
And how do. you envision your country's relationship. with the United
and how do you envision your country's relationship with the united states?
We need the support of the United States for our democracy, for our economy, for regional - to be regional friends in the region. There are lots of challenges this region is facing and the world is facing in our geographical surroundings. So we are hoping to work hand in hand with the United States to see a better tomo...
we need the support of the united states, for our, democracy for our, economy for regional - to be regional friends in the, region there are lots of challenges this region is facing and the world is facing in our, geographical. surroundings. so. we, are hoping to work hand in hand with the united states to see a better...
We need the, support of the. United States for our democracy for our economy for regional - to, be regional friends in the region. There are lots of challenges, this region is facing and the world is facing in our geographical surroundings So we are hoping to work hand in hand with the United States to see a better tom...
we need the support of the united states for our democracy, for our economy, for regional - to be regional friends in the region. there are lots of challenges this region is facing and the world is facing in our geographical surroundings. so we are hoping to work hand in hand with the united states to see a better tomo...
Is the U.S. more eager to rout the Taliban out of certain tribal areas than the Pakistani government always is?
is the u.s more eager to rout the taliban out of certain tribal areas. than the pakistani government always
Is the U.S more eager to rout the Taliban out of certain tribal areas than the Pakistani government always.
is the u.s. more eager to rout the taliban out of certain tribal areas than the pakistani government always is?
No. I think it's a Pakistan first problem, and the U.S. is there to help us, too. So it's a joint effort. The idea is to get to normalization. It's not a question of moving them out. It's a question of getting things back to normal and having democracy in every region.
no i think. it's a, pakistan first problem and the; u.s is there to help us too so it's a joint effort the idea is. to get, to normalization it's not a question, of moving them, out it's a question of getting things back to. normal and having democracy in every
No I think, it's a Pakistan first problem and the U.S is there to help us too So it's a joint effort The idea is to get to; normalization It's not a question of moving them out It's a question of getting things back to normal and having democracy in every
no. i think it's a pakistan first problem, and the u.s. is there to help us, too. so it's a joint effort. the idea is to get to normalization. it's not a question of moving them out. it's a question of getting things back to normal and having democracy in every region.
Mr. Zardari, I have to ask you. You know, you've been charged with corruption, you've been convicted, you've been to prison.
mr zardari i have to ask you you know you've been charged with corruption you've been convicted you've been to
Mr Zardari I have to ask you; You know you've been charged with corruption you've been convicted you've been to
mr. zardari, i have to ask you. you know, you've been charged with corruption, you've been convicted, you've been to prison.