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Well, that was great. You know, right - in the early 2000, since right after 9/11 when there was a serious downturn, there were a lot of last-minute deals. But right now, last summer, we had planes 90 percent full. What that means is basically every flight that you're on is full and only those red eyes don't have seats... | well. that was great you know right - in the early 2000, since right after 9/11 when. there was a serious downturn there were a lot of last-minute, deals but right now last summer we had planes 90 percent full what that means is basically every flight, that you're on is full and only those red eyes don't have | Well that was. great You, know right - in the early 2000, since right after 9/11 when there was a serious downturn there. were a lot of last-minute deals But right now, last summer we had planes 90 percent full, What that means is basically every flight that you're on is full and only those red eyes don't have | well, that was great. you know, right - in the early 2000, since right after 9/11 when there was a serious downturn, there were a lot of last-minute deals. but right now, last summer, we had planes 90 percent full. what that means is basically every flight that you're on is full and only those red eyes don't have seats... |
So, basically, there's no seats to give you at the cheap cost. There's no incentive for the airline to discount those. So, basically, you're probably going to pay three or four times pay if you shopped early. | so basically there's; no seats to give you at the cheap cost, there's no incentive for the airline to discount those so basically you're probably going to, pay three or four times. pay if you shopped | So basically; there's no seats to give; you at the cheap cost There's no incentive, for the airline to discount those So basically you're probably going to pay three or four times pay if you shopped | so, basically, there's no seats to give you at the cheap cost. there's no incentive for the airline to discount those. so, basically, you're probably going to pay three or four times pay if you shopped early. |
I was astounded when you said a minute ago, they have eight to 10 pricing levels. I thought there was economy, business, first class? | i was astounded, when. you said a minute ago they have, eight to 10 pricing levels i thought there was economy business first | I was astounded when you said a minute; ago they have eight to, 10 pricing levels. I thought, there was economy business first | i was astounded when you said a minute ago, they have eight to 10 pricing levels. i thought there was economy, business, first class? |
Oh, if only it was so easy. | oh if only it was so | Oh if only it was so | oh, if only it was so easy. |
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Basically, when you look at tickets nowadays, most airlines have anywhere from seven to 10 price levels. And on any given moment when you make a query, their systems which have been honed to a fine-edged sword over five to 10 years will make a decision of what price of those 10 to give you at that any one time. | basically, when. you look at tickets nowadays most airlines have anywhere from seven to 10 price levels and on any, given moment, when, you make a query their systems which have been honed to, a fine-edged. sword over five to 10 years will make a decision of. what price, of those. 10 to give you at that any one, | Basically when, you look at tickets. nowadays most airlines have, anywhere from seven to 10 price levels And on any given moment when you make a query their systems, which have been honed to a fine-edged sword over five to 10 years will make a decision of, what price of those 10 to give you at that any one | basically, when you look at tickets nowadays, most airlines have anywhere from seven to 10 price levels. and on any given moment when you make a query, their systems which have been honed to a fine-edged sword over five to 10 years will make a decision of what price of those 10 to give you at that any one time. |
And that's why people are so frustrated about shopping for travel. They might query in the morning it's one price, query in the afternoon it's another. And then, of course, airfares change eight times a days just like the stock market, so that can also catch you as well. | and that's why people are so frustrated about shopping for travel they might query in the, morning it's one price query in, the, afternoon it's another and then of course airfares change eight, times a days just like the stock market so that; can also catch you as | And that's why people are so. frustrated about. shopping for travel They might query. in the morning it's one price query in the afternoon it's another And then of course airfares change eight times, a days just like the stock market so that can also catch. you as, | and that's why people are so frustrated about shopping for travel. they might query in the morning it's one price, query in the afternoon it's another. and then, of course, airfares change eight times a days just like the stock market, so that can also catch you as well. |
And can there also be, you know, surcharges as fuel prices go up? | and. can there also be you. know surcharges as fuel prices go | And can there also be, you know surcharges as fuel prices go. | and can there also be, you know, surcharges as fuel prices go up? |
Oh, definitely. I mean, surcharges have really been the big, you know, gorilla this past seven or eight months. There really were not many surcharges for U.S. travel up until Labor Day last year. And now, we're averaging about $50 round-trip for domestic tickets. And if you're going transatlantic, the average fuel surc... | oh definitely i mean surcharges have really been the big. you know gorilla this past seven or eight months there really were not many surcharges for u.s travel up until labor day last year and now we're averaging about $50 round-trip for domestic tickets and if you're going transatlantic, the average fuel surcharge is ... | Oh definitely I mean surcharges have really been the big you. know gorilla this past seven or eight months There really were not many surcharges for. U.S, travel up until, Labor Day last year And now we're averaging about $50 round-trip for domestic, tickets And if you're going transatlantic the average. fuel surcharge... | oh, definitely. i mean, surcharges have really been the big, you know, gorilla this past seven or eight months. there really were not many surcharges for u.s. travel up until labor day last year. and now, we're averaging about $50 round-trip for domestic tickets. and if you're going transatlantic, the average fuel surc... |
And let's see if we can get some listeners on in this conversation. 800-989-8255. E-mail us: talk@npr.org. We're talking with Rick Seaney, one of the original founders and the CEO of FareCompare.com. | and let's see if we can get some listeners on in, this conversation 800-989-8255. e-mail us: talk@npr.org, we're talking with rick, seaney one of the original founders and the, ceo of | And let's see if we can get some listeners on in this conversation 800-989-8255. E-mail us: talk@npr.org We're talking with Rick Seaney one of the original founders and the CEO of | and let's see if we can get some listeners on in this conversation. 800-989-8255. e-mail us: talk@npr.org. we're talking with rick seaney, one of the original founders and the ceo of farecompare.com. |
And let's begin with Kevin(ph), who is calling us from Tempe in Arizona. | and let's begin with kevin(ph), who is calling us from tempe; in | And let's begin with Kevin(ph), who is calling us from Tempe in | and let's begin with kevin(ph), who is calling us from tempe in arizona. |
Hello? | hello? | ||
Hi, Kevin, you're on the air. Go ahead, please. | hi kevin you're on the air go ahead | Hi Kevin, you're on the air Go ahead | hi, kevin, you're on the air. go ahead, please. |
Hi. Well, I've found that if you can — if you check on, like this Web site called Kayak.com, and… | hi well i've, found that if you can — if you check on like this web site called kayak.com, | Hi Well I've found that if you can — if you check on like this. Web site called Kayak.com | hi. well, i've found that if you can — if you check on, like this web site called kayak.com, and… |
I'm quite familiar with Kayak, yes. | i'm quite familiar with kayak | I'm quite familiar with Kayak | i'm quite familiar with kayak, yes. |
I'd say two things. One, it just allows you, as you know, to hear the voice--the spontaneous voice of people--all over the United States and the way they feel about all these different issues. Sometimes you hear people calling in and they sound like they just got their marching orders from some ot... | i'd, say two things one it just allows. you as you know to hear the voice--the spontaneous, voice of people--all over the united states and the way they feel about all these different issues sometimes. you hear people calling in and they sound like they just. got, their marching orders from some o... | I'd say two things One it just allows you as you know to hear the voice--the spontaneous voice of people--all over the United States and, the. way they feel about all these different issues Sometimes. you hear people calling in and, they, sound like they just, got their marching orders from some o... | i'd say two things. one, it just allows you, as you know, to hear the voice--the spontaneous voice of people--all over the united states and the way they feel about all these different issues. sometimes you hear people calling in and they sound like they just got their marching orders from some ot... |
The second thing I think is it's very important that people in power have to hear the average person talking back to them, and I find that callers often are far more honest about how they really feel about politicians and issues than even those of us who ask questions. And I love hearing the direct... | the second thing i think is it's very, important that people in power have to hear the average person. talking back to them, and i find that callers often are far more honest about how they really feel about politicians and issues; than even those of us who ask questions and i love hearing, the dir... | The. second thing I think is it's very, important that people. in power have to hear the average person talking back to them and I find that, callers often are far more honest about how they really. feel, about politicians and issues than even those of us who ask questions And I love hearing the di... | the second thing i think is it's very important that people in power have to hear the average person talking back to them, and i find that callers often are far more honest about how they really feel about politicians and issues than even those of us who ask questions. and i love hearing the direct... |
Call-in shows have also become very partisan. I mean, they're--they can be divisive, do you think? | call-in shows have also. become, very partisan i mean they're--they can be divisive do you, | Call-in shows have also become very partisan I mean they're--they. can be divisive, do you | call-in shows have also become very partisan. i mean, they're--they can be divisive, do you think? |
Yes, but politics has always been divisive and always been, you know, in history violent. I'm not sure it matters in a multiple channel environment. If there were only three channels and you had all this divisiveness, it might be a lot more destructive, but you know, this is a divided country and ... | yes but politics has always been divisive and always been you know in history violent, i'm not sure it matters in a multiple channel environment if there were only three channels and you had all this divisiveness it might be a lot more destructive but you know this is a divided, country and there ... | Yes but politics has always been divisive and always been you know in history violent I'm not sure it matters in a multiple channel. environment If there were only three channels and. you had all this divisiveness it might be a lot more destructive but you know this is a divided country, and there... | yes, but politics has always been divisive and always been, you know, in history violent. i'm not sure it matters in a multiple channel environment. if there were only three channels and you had all this divisiveness, it might be a lot more destructive, but you know, this is a divided country and ... |
Of course, you have that device of separate phone numbers for callers for or against a certain issue, that let's you sort of separate out the opponents. | of course you have that device of separate phone. numbers for callers for or against a certain issue that let's you, sort of separate out the | Of, course you have that device of separate phone numbers for, callers for, or against a certain issue that let's you sort of separate out the. | of course, you have that device of separate phone numbers for callers for or against a certain issue, that let's you sort of separate out the opponents. |
Yeah, and we don't really like it, but what happened back in the Clinton years is the Clinton haters were dominating the call-in show, and that's when we decided to divide the lines. And then in the Bush years, the Bush haters are the ones that are calling all the time, and you don't have a discuss... | yeah and we don't really like, it but what happened back in the clinton years is the clinton haters were dominating the call-in show and that's when we decided to divide the lines and then in the bush years the bush haters are the ones that are calling all the, time and you don't have a discussion ... | Yeah. and we, don't really like it but what happened back in the Clinton years is. the Clinton haters were dominating the call-in show, and that's when we decided, to. divide the lines And then in the Bush years the Bush haters are the ones that are calling all, the time, and you don't have a discu... | yeah, and we don't really like it, but what happened back in the clinton years is the clinton haters were dominating the call-in show, and that's when we decided to divide the lines. and then in the bush years, the bush haters are the ones that are calling all the time, and you don't have a discuss... |
All right. We're going to go to the phones now. Let's go to Chris in Portland, Oregon. Hi, Chris. | all right we're going to go to the phones now let's go to chris in, portland oregon hi | All. right We're going, to. go to the phones now Let's go to Chris, in Portland Oregon Hi | all right. we're going to go to the phones now. let's go to chris in portland, oregon. hi, chris. |
Hi, there. It seems like you guys just answered my question. I was just going to ask. Every time I watch C-SPAN and I notice the phone numbers, there's always a number for the Republicans and a number for the Democrats. I'm kind of like in the middle; I like the Republicans, I like the Democrats.... | hi there it seems like you, guys just. answered my question i was just going to ask every time i watch c-span, and, i notice the phone. numbers there's always, a number for the republicans and a number for the democrats i'm kind of like in the middle i; like the republicans i like. the democrats ... | Hi there It seems like you guys just answered my question I was just going to ask Every time I. watch C-SPAN and I notice the phone numbers there's always. a number for the Republicans and a number for the Democrats I'm kind of like in the middle I like the Republicans, I like the Democrats And ... | hi, there. it seems like you guys just answered my question. i was just going to ask. every time i watch c-span and i notice the phone numbers, there's always a number for the republicans and a number for the democrats. i'm kind of like in the middle; i like the republicans, i like the democrats.... |
OK. Thanks for your call, Chris. | ok thanks for your, call | OK Thanks for your call, | ok. thanks for your call, chris. |
Yeah, you're welcome. | yeah you're | Yeah you're | yeah, you're welcome. |
Could you add a third number for undecideds? | could you add a third number for | Could you add a third number for | could you add a third number for undecideds? |
We do. It's not actually undecideds usually; it's others. And people violate that, too. You know, they say, `Well, I used to be a Republican and I used to love George Bush and--but I'm not a Democrat, but I still don't like him now,' and so they use that avenue. But we really intend the others li... | we do it's not actually undecideds usually it's others and people violate that too you know they say `well i used to be a republican and i used to love george bush and--but i'm not a democrat. but i, still don't like him now' and so they use that avenue but we really; intend the, others line to b... | We do It's not actually undecideds usually it's others And people violate that too You. know they say, `Well I used to be a Republican and I. used to love George Bush and--but I'm not a Democrat but I still don't like him now' and so they use that avenue But we really intend the others line to be... | we do. it's not actually undecideds usually; it's others. and people violate that, too. you know, they say, `well, i used to be a republican and i used to love george bush and--but i'm not a democrat, but i still don't like him now,' and so they use that avenue. but we really intend the others li... |
Well, thank you very much. | well thank you very | Well thank, you very | well, thank you very much. |
Well, I've been on the show a couple of times, and you know, it works for you-all, but for us it's a different--I don't know why. | well i've. been on the show a. couple of times and you know it works, for you-all but. for us it's a different--i don't know | Well I've been on the. show a couple of times and you know it works for you-all but for us it's a different--I. don't. know | well, i've been on the show a couple of times, and you know, it works for you-all, but for us it's a different--i don't know why. |
Yeah. Would you say that the average caller has changed over the years? | yeah would you say that the average caller has changed over, the | Yeah Would you say that the average caller has changed over the | yeah. would you say that the average caller has changed over the years? |
The average caller is more partisan, I think, and a little more bitter, but people are more cynical about politicians than they used to be, and my own take on that is there's so much money in it now, and it's become such a money-chase that that's what's creating all this. But you know, you're going... | the average caller is more partisan. i think and a. little more bitter but people are more cynical about politicians than they used to, be, and; my own. take. on, that is there's so much money; in it now and it's become such a money-chase that that's what's creating all this but you know you're goi... | The average caller is more partisan I think and a little. more bitter but people are more cynical about politicians than they used to be and my own take, on, that is there's, so much money in it now and it's become such a money-chase that, that's; what's creating all this But you know you're going ... | the average caller is more partisan, i think, and a little more bitter, but people are more cynical about politicians than they used to be, and my own take on that is there's so much money in it now, and it's become such a money-chase that that's what's creating all this. but you know, you're going... |
All right. Let's take a call from Kate. She's in Glouster, Ohio. Hi, Kate. | all right let's take a call from kate she's in glouster ohio hi | All right Let's take a call from Kate She's in Glouster Ohio Hi | all right. let's take a call from kate. she's in glouster, ohio. hi, kate. |
Hi. Thanks, Brian, and thanks, TALK OF THE NATION, for having Brian on. You offer I think the nation an incredible service. It's just really an important service you provide. But I wanted to ask you, in your 25 years have you ever been pressured by any individual group or administration to not co... | hi thanks brian and, thanks, talk of the nation; for having brian on you offer i, think the nation an incredible service it's just, really an important service; you provide; but i wanted to ask you in your 25 years have you ever been pressured by any individual group or administration to not cove... | Hi Thanks Brian and thanks TALK OF THE NATION for having Brian on You offer I think the nation an incredible, service It's just really an important service you provide But I wanted to. ask you in your 25 years have, you ever been; pressured by any; individual group or administration to not; cover... | hi. thanks, brian, and thanks, talk of the nation, for having brian on. you offer i think the nation an incredible service. it's just really an important service you provide. but i wanted to ask you, in your 25 years have you ever been pressured by any individual group or administration to not co... |
Oh, boy, that's a good one. We have never--I'm trying to think if--we've never been pressured enough to matter to not cover something. You have members of Congress and the administration calling up all the time and insisting that we cover something, and we often don't. It all depends on what our ... | oh boy that's a good one we have never--i'm trying to think if--we've never been pressured enough to matter to not cover something you have members of congress and the administration calling up all the, time and. insisting that we cover something and we often. don't it all depends. on what our ed... | Oh boy. that's a good one We have never--I'm trying to think if--we've never been pressured enough to matter to not cover. something You have members of Congress and, the administration calling up all the time and. insisting that we. cover something, and we, often don't It all depends on what our... | oh, boy, that's a good one. we have never--i'm trying to think if--we've never been pressured enough to matter to not cover something. you have members of congress and the administration calling up all the time and insisting that we cover something, and we often don't. it all depends on what our ... |
Was do you think the media... | was do you think the | Was do you think. the | was do you think the media... |
Oh, yeah. | oh | Oh | oh, yeah. |
...you know, one day I watched the Terri Schiavo coverage 78 times in 12 hours and I didn't see a tiny bit of coverage on some families who had gone to Fayetteville, North Carolina--military families--there wasn't one second of coverage on the march down there. And I'm just wondering from your hist... | ...you, know one day i watched the terri schiavo coverage 78 times in 12 hours and i didn't see a tiny bit of coverage on some. families who had gone to fayetteville north carolina--military families--there wasn't. one second of coverage on the march, down there and. i'm just wondering from your hi... | ...you know one day I watched the, Terri Schiavo coverage 78 times in 12 hours, and I didn't see a tiny bit of coverage on some families who had gone to Fayetteville North Carolina--military families--there wasn't one second of coverage on the march down there And I'm just wondering from your histo... | ...you know, one day i watched the terri schiavo coverage 78 times in 12 hours and i didn't see a tiny bit of coverage on some families who had gone to fayetteville, north carolina--military families--there wasn't one second of coverage on the march down there. and i'm just wondering from your hist... |
First of all, I think we expect to much out of the media based on an environment that we had about 25 years ago when it was a heavily regulated industry, and the networks had to do public affairs to keep their license. Now it is a deregulated environment, and the only thing that drives a lot of thes... | first of all i think we expect to, much out of the media based on an environment. that we had about 25 years ago when it was a heavily, regulated industry and the networks had to do public affairs to keep their license now it is a deregulated environment and the only thing that drives a lot of these... | First of all I, think we expect to. much out of the media. based on an environment that we had about 25 years, ago when it; was a heavily regulated industry and the networks had. to do public affairs to keep their license Now it is a deregulated. environment and the. only thing that drives a lot of ... | first of all, i think we expect to much out of the media based on an environment that we had about 25 years ago when it was a heavily regulated industry, and the networks had to do public affairs to keep their license. now it is a deregulated environment, and the only thing that drives a lot of thes... |
Well, a lot of teen-agers will say `My parents are going to kill me' if they're coming home late on a date. | well a. lot of teen-agers will. say `my parents are going to kill me' if they're, coming home late on a | Well a lot. of teen-agers will say `My parents are going to kill me' if they're coming home late on a. | well, a lot of teen-agers will say `my parents are going to kill me' if they're coming home late on a date. |
I'm not happy about what they do. They don't ever ask me what my opinion is 'cause they're running a business, and I think it's nonsense that you have 472 days of Aruba. I don't get it. I don't understand it. I'm not interested in it. But again, I'm not paying the bills, and that's why they do ... | i'm not happy about what they do they don't ever ask me what my opinion is 'cause they're running a business and i think it's nonsense that you have 472 days of aruba i don't get it, i don't understand it i'm not interested in it, but again i'm not paying the bills and that's why they do. that ... | I'm, not happy about what they; do They don't ever ask me. what my opinion is 'cause they're; running a business and I think, it's nonsense that you have 472 days of, Aruba I don't get it I don't understand it I'm not interested, in it But again I'm not paying the bills and that's why they do, ... | i'm not happy about what they do. they don't ever ask me what my opinion is 'cause they're running a business, and i think it's nonsense that you have 472 days of aruba. i don't get it. i don't understand it. i'm not interested in it. but again, i'm not paying the bills, and that's why they do ... |
All right. Thanks... | all right | All right | all right. thanks... |
But, Brian, you know, often the answer is that this is just what the American public wants. I don't buy it. I think there's a--like you said, the bottom line is money or there's another agenda or the producers--I just don't buy--I hear over and over again in the American public they're tired of th... | but brian you know often the answer. is that this is just what the american public wants i don't buy it i think there's. a--like you said the bottom line. is money or there's another agenda or the producers--i; just don't buy--i hear over, and over again in the american public, they're tired of, t... | But Brian you know often the answer is that this is just what the American public wants I don't buy, it, I think, there's a--like you said the bottom line is. money or there's another agenda or the producers--I; just don't buy--I hear over, and over again in the American public they're tired of th... | but, brian, you know, often the answer is that this is just what the american public wants. i don't buy it. i think there's a--like you said, the bottom line is money or there's another agenda or the producers--i just don't buy--i hear over and over again in the american public they're tired of th... |
Well... | well... | ||
All right. Kate, thanks so much for you call. I'm going to let Brian respond to you now. | all right kate thanks so much for you call i'm going to let brian respond to you | All right Kate thanks so much for, you call I'm going to let Brian respond to, you | all right. kate, thanks so much for you call. i'm going to let brian respond to you now. |
Kate, you're right. It's not what the American people want, but it's what enough of the American people want to make the numbers work out for these networks, and they're looking at audiences that might be 7, 800,000 people strong. There are 300 million people in the United States. All Americans d... | kate you're right. it's not what the american people want but it's what enough of the american people want; to make the numbers work out for these networks and, they're looking at audiences that might be 7, 800,000 people strong there are 300 million people in. the united, states all americans do... | Kate you're right It's not what the American people want but, it's. what enough of the American people want to make the numbers work out for these networks and they're looking at audiences that might be 7, 800,000 people strong There, are 300 million people in the United States. All. Americans do... | kate, you're right. it's not what the american people want, but it's what enough of the american people want to make the numbers work out for these networks, and they're looking at audiences that might be 7, 800,000 people strong. there are 300 million people in the united states. all americans d... |
But, you know, Brian, I don't think that people expected C-SPAN to have the audience that it has. When it first started, you know, people said, `Oh, you know, that's going to be like watching the wallpaper dry.' You know, they're going to just show us whole news conferences without editing it and ... | but, you know brian i don't think that people, expected c-span to have, the audience that it has when it first started you know, people said `oh you know that's going to be like watching the wallpaper dry' you know they're going to just. show us whole news conferences without editing it and boring... | But you know Brian I don't. think that people expected C-SPAN to have the, audience that it has When it, first started you know people said `Oh you know. that's, going to be like watching the wallpaper dry' You know they're going to just show us whole news conferences without editing it and boring... | but, you know, brian, i don't think that people expected c-span to have the audience that it has. when it first started, you know, people said, `oh, you know, that's going to be like watching the wallpaper dry.' you know, they're going to just show us whole news conferences without editing it and ... |
Well, you know, Lynn, we've been lucky enough 'cause of our cable industry to take the numbers out of it, take the money out of it, and that's the only way this kind of thing would work, and so we never look at numbers and we never have to worry about it. NPR's in some of the same kind of situation... | well you. know lynn. we've been lucky. enough 'cause of our cable industry to take the numbers out of it take the money out of it and that's the. only way this kind of thing would work and so we; never. look. at numbers and we never have to worry. about it npr's, in some of the same kind of situati... | Well you know Lynn we've been lucky enough 'cause of our cable industry to take the numbers out of it take the money out. of it and that's the only way this kind of, thing would work and so we never look at numbers and; we never have to worry about; it. NPR's in some of the same kind. of situation ... | well, you know, lynn, we've been lucky enough 'cause of our cable industry to take the numbers out of it, take the money out of it, and that's the only way this kind of thing would work, and so we never look at numbers and we never have to worry about it. npr's in some of the same kind of situation... |
Yeah, but do you think it's been more successful than you ever thought it would be or did you always... | yeah but. do you. think. it's been more successful than you ever thought, it, would, be or did you | Yeah but, do you think it's been more successful than you ever thought it would be or did you | yeah, but do you think it's been more successful than you ever thought it would be or did you always... |
No... | no... | ||
...think that there was an audience for this from the start? | ...think that there was an audience for, this from the | ...think, that there was an audience for, this from the | ...think that there was an audience for this from the start? |
I think it's happened just about the way I expected it to. I actually--this'll sound strange to you. I thought we'd have a bigger audience than we do. | i think it's happened, just about the way i expected it to i actually--this'll sound strange to you i. thought we'd have a bigger audience than we | I think it's happened just about the way I expected it to I actually--this'll sound strange to you I thought, we'd have a bigger; audience than we | i think it's happened just about the way i expected it to. i actually--this'll sound strange to you. i thought we'd have a bigger audience than we do. |
Huh. | huh. | ||
And that's not disappointing to me, but I just find that people will chase the silliest things and get all excited on television about things that don't matter to me. But again, it's more of a marketplace than it's ever been. | and. that's not disappointing to me but i just, find that people will chase the silliest things and get all. excited on television about things, that don't, matter to me but again, it's, more of a marketplace than it's ever | And, that's not disappointing to me but I just find, that people, will chase the silliest things and get all excited on television about things that don't. matter, to me But again it's more of a marketplace than it's ever | and that's not disappointing to me, but i just find that people will chase the silliest things and get all excited on television about things that don't matter to me. but again, it's more of a marketplace than it's ever been. |
My guest is Brian Lamb. He is the chairman and CEO of C-SPAN. | my guest is brian lamb he is the chairman and ceo of | My guest is Brian Lamb He is the chairman and CEO of | my guest is brian lamb. he is the chairman and ceo of c-span. |
And you're listening to TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News. | and you're listening. to talk of the nation from, npr | And you're listening to TALK OF THE NATION from. NPR | and you're listening to talk of the nation from npr news. |
We're going to take a call from Mike in Ohio. Hi, Mike. | we're. going to take a call from mike in ohio. hi | We're going to take a call from Mike, in Ohio Hi | we're going to take a call from mike in ohio. hi, mike. |
Hi. | hi. | ||
Go... | go... | ||
Hey, Brian, this is Mike Smith. | hey brian this is mike | Hey Brian this is Mike | hey, brian, this is mike smith. |
Hi, Mike. | hi | Hi | hi, mike. |
Just wanted to know when you started, lo, those many years ago in the industry, did you expect to just get policy wonks listening or calling in or are you surprised by the breadth of the callers that call in now? | just wanted to know when you started lo those many years ago in the industry did you expect to just get policy. wonks listening or calling in or, are you. surprised by the breadth of the. callers that call in | Just; wanted to know when. you started lo those many years ago in the industry did you expect to. just get, policy wonks listening or, calling in or are. you surprised by the breadth of the callers that call in | just wanted to know when you started, lo, those many years ago in the industry, did you expect to just get policy wonks listening or calling in or are you surprised by the breadth of the callers that call in now? |
I'm actually not surprised by the breadth of the callers. I came from a small town in Indiana and I was interested in all this because I knew my friends were interested, and they weren't sophisticated policy wonks, and I've always thought that the average person, the person who doesn't happen to ha... | i'm actually not surprised by the breadth, of the callers i came from a small town in indiana and i was interested in all this because i knew my friends were interested and they weren't sophisticated policy wonks and i've always thought that the average person. the person who doesn't happen to have... | I'm actually not surprised by the breadth of the callers, I came from a small town in Indiana and I was interested in all this because I knew my friends were interested and they weren't sophisticated policy wonks. and I've, always thought that the average. person the person who doesn't happen to, h... | i'm actually not surprised by the breadth of the callers. i came from a small town in indiana and i was interested in all this because i knew my friends were interested, and they weren't sophisticated policy wonks, and i've always thought that the average person, the person who doesn't happen to ha... |
All right. Thanks for your call, Mike. Let's go to Amanda, and Amanda is in New York. Hi, Amanda. | all right thanks for your call mike let's go to amanda and. amanda is in new. york hi | All right Thanks for your call Mike Let's go to Amanda and Amanda is in New York Hi | all right. thanks for your call, mike. let's go to amanda, and amanda is in new york. hi, amanda. |
Hello. | hello. | ||
Hi, Amanda. Are you there? | hi amanda are you | Hi Amanda Are. you | hi, amanda. are you there? |
Yes, I am. | yes. i | Yes I | yes, i am. |
Go ahead. | go | Go | go ahead. |
Hello? | hello? | ||
Go ahead, Amanda. | go ahead | Go ahead | go ahead, amanda. |
Who am I speaking with? | who am i speaking | Who am I speaking | who am i speaking with? |
You're speaking with Brian Lamb on TALK OF THE NATION. | you're speaking, with brian; lamb on talk of the | You're speaking with Brian; Lamb on TALK. OF THE | you're speaking with brian lamb on talk of the nation. |
Mr. Lamb? Brian Lamb? | mr lamb? brian | Mr Lamb? Brian | mr. lamb? brian lamb? |
Yes, you are. Go ahead. | yes you are go | Yes you are Go | yes, you are. go ahead. |
C-SPAN CEO? | c-span | C-SPAN | c-span ceo? |
Yes. | yes. | ||
Yes. I was wondering the anniversary of C-SPAN, first broadcaster of C-SPAN. | yes i was wondering the anniversary of c-span first broadcaster of | Yes I was wondering the anniversary, of C-SPAN first broadcaster of. | yes. i was wondering the anniversary of c-span, first broadcaster of c-span. |
We're celebrating--or C-SPAN is celebrating its 25th anniversary of call-in shows on C-SPAN. That is why we have Mr. Lamb here today. And, Brian, I was wondering. You--I know you're going to have something like a 25-hour marathon broadcast to mark this event? | we're celebrating--or c-span is celebrating its 25th anniversary of call-in shows on c-span that is why we have mr lamb here today and brian i was wondering you--i know you're going to have something like a 25-hour marathon broadcast. to, mark this | We're celebrating--or C-SPAN is celebrating its 25th. anniversary of call-in shows, on C-SPAN. That, is why we have Mr Lamb here today; And Brian I was wondering You--I know you're going to have something like a 25-hour marathon broadcast to mark this | we're celebrating--or c-span is celebrating its 25th anniversary of call-in shows on c-span. that is why we have mr. lamb here today. and, brian, i was wondering. you--i know you're going to have something like a 25-hour marathon broadcast to mark this event? |
Lynn, starting tomorrow night at 8:00 we start 25 hours, about 30 guests, one hour after another, and it's just--all that does it just commemorates 25 years. There's no other reason to do it, and it's just--we're actually--first time we've ever done anything like this. Hope it's fun. | lynn starting tomorrow night at 8:00 we start 25 hours about 30 guests one hour after another and it's just--all that does it, just commemorates 25 years there's no other reason to do it and it's just--we're actually--first time we've ever done anything like this hope it's | Lynn starting tomorrow night at 8:00 we. start 25 hours about 30 guests. one hour. after another and it's just--all that does it just commemorates 25 years There's no other reason, to do it and it's just--we're actually--first time we've ever done anything like this Hope it's | lynn, starting tomorrow night at 8:00 we start 25 hours, about 30 guests, one hour after another, and it's just--all that does it just commemorates 25 years. there's no other reason to do it, and it's just--we're actually--first time we've ever done anything like this. hope it's fun. |
And who are some of the people you're going to have on? | and who are some of the people you're going to have | And, who, are some of the. people you're going to have | and who are some of the people you're going to have on? |
Well, the first guest we have on is Phil Donahue, and the reason for that is that Phil Donahue is one of the greatest inventors of all this stuff... | well the, first guest we have; on is phil. donahue and the reason for that is that phil donahue is one of the greatest inventors of all this | Well the first guest we have on is Phil Donahue and the reason for that is that Phil Donahue is one of the greatest inventors of all this | well, the first guest we have on is phil donahue, and the reason for that is that phil donahue is one of the greatest inventors of all this stuff... |
Yeah. | yeah. | ||
Yeah. | yeah. | ||
I did not anticipate any violence or any consequences of that nature... | i did not anticipate any violence or any consequences of that | I did not anticipate any violence or. any consequences. of that | i did not anticipate any violence or any consequences of that nature... |
...of anybody in the business. He did call-ins on television; not every week or anything, but periodically out of Dayton when he was in Dayton, Ohio. We also have people like Pat Buchanan and we have Susan Page and her husband, Carl Leubsdorf, are going to come on at 3:00 in the morning. We--I do... | ...of anybody in the business he did call-ins on television not every week or anything but periodically out of dayton. when he was in, dayton ohio we also have people, like pat buchanan and we have susan page, and her husband carl leubsdorf are going to come on at 3:00 in the morning we--i don't ... | ...of anybody in the business. He did call-ins on television not every week or anything but periodically out of Dayton when he was in Dayton Ohio We also have people like Pat Buchanan and we have Susan Page and, her husband Carl Leubsdorf are going to, come on at 3:00 in the morning We--I don't h... | ...of anybody in the business. he did call-ins on television; not every week or anything, but periodically out of dayton when he was in dayton, ohio. we also have people like pat buchanan and we have susan page and her husband, carl leubsdorf, are going to come on at 3:00 in the morning. we--i do... |
You're not doing it for the whole 25 hours now are you? | you're not, doing it for the whole 25 hours now are | You're not doing it for the whole 25 hours now are | you're not doing it for the whole 25 hours now are you? |
Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm going to do three hours tomorrow night and three hours on Saturday and--to wrap it up, and we're also having our winner. A 17-year-old won our contest that we tried to find somebody to write an essay and we had hundreds participate, but a 17-year-old won it out of Florida, ... | oh no, no no no, i'm going to do three hours, tomorrow night and three hours on saturday and--to wrap it up, and we're also having our winner a 17-year-old won our contest that we tried to, find. somebody to write an. essay and we had, hundreds participate but a, 17-year-old won it out of florida ... | Oh no no, no no I'm going to do three, hours tomorrow night and three, hours on Saturday and--to wrap it up and we're also having our, winner A; 17-year-old won our contest, that we tried to find somebody. to write, an essay and we, had, hundreds participate but a 17-year-old won it out, of Florid... | oh, no, no, no, no. i'm going to do three hours tomorrow night and three hours on saturday and--to wrap it up, and we're also having our winner. a 17-year-old won our contest that we tried to find somebody to write an essay and we had hundreds participate, but a 17-year-old won it out of florida, ... |
All right. Let's take another call from Hiram in Nashville. | all right let's take another call from hiram in | All right Let's take another call from Hiram in | all right. let's take another call from hiram in nashville. |
Hey, how you doing? | hey how you; | Hey, how you | hey, how you doing? |
Good. Go ahead. | good go | Good Go | good. go ahead. |
My question is, Mr. Lamb, it seemed like I heard a story somewhere that you used all our own money to start this network and it wasn't necessarily profitable and you were pouring a lot of your personal money back into that, so what's the structure of the business, and is that story true? | my question is mr lamb it seemed like i heard a story somewhere that; you used. all our own money to start, this network and it wasn't necessarily profitable and you were pouring a lot of your personal money back into that so what's the structure of the business and is that story, | My, question, is Mr Lamb it seemed like I heard a; story somewhere that you. used all our own money to start this network, and it wasn't necessarily profitable and you were pouring a lot. of your personal money back into that so what's the structure of the, business and is that story | my question is, mr. lamb, it seemed like i heard a story somewhere that you used all our own money to start this network and it wasn't necessarily profitable and you were pouring a lot of your personal money back into that, so what's the structure of the business, and is that story true? |
I didn't use a dime of my own money. I didn't have any money then at all when we started, and the cable television industry funded the entire network, but it is a non-profit network. We don't make money for anybody. But we've gone from three million homes to 90 million homes in the last 25 years, ... | i didn't use a dime of my own money i didn't; have. any money then at all when we started and the cable television industry funded the entire network. but it is a non-profit network we don't make money for anybody but we've gone from three. million homes to 90 million homes in the last 25 years an... | I didn't, use a dime of my own money I didn't. have any money then at all, when we started and; the cable television. industry funded the entire, network but it is a non-profit network We don't make money for anybody But, we've gone from three million homes, to 90 million homes; in the last 25 yea... | i didn't use a dime of my own money. i didn't have any money then at all when we started, and the cable television industry funded the entire network, but it is a non-profit network. we don't make money for anybody. but we've gone from three million homes to 90 million homes in the last 25 years, ... |
OK. Thanks. | ok | OK | ok. thanks. |
Thanks for your call, Hiram. That's interesting that there's that story out there, that you're some kind of a media mogul, I guess. | thanks, for. your call hiram that's interesting. that there's that story out there that you're some kind of a media mogul i | Thanks for your call Hiram That's interesting. that there's that story, out there that you're some kind of a media, mogul I | thanks for your call, hiram. that's interesting that there's that story out there, that you're some kind of a media mogul, i guess. |
Well, actually, Lynn, I've never heard that. You know, it didn't matter to me, and it's been a lot of fun, so the money part of it didn't matter, but the industry has certainly supported us, I think, in a very good way. | well actually lynn i've never heard that you know it didn't, matter to me and it's been a, lot of fun so the money part of it didn't matter but the industry has, certainly supported us i. think. in a very good | Well actually Lynn I've never heard that You know it didn't matter to me and it's been a lot of fun so the money part of it didn't matter but the. industry has certainly, supported us I think in a very good | well, actually, lynn, i've never heard that. you know, it didn't matter to me, and it's been a lot of fun, so the money part of it didn't matter, but the industry has certainly supported us, i think, in a very good way. |
You know, one other thing about C-SPAN I'm always wondering, you know, we in the news business know that every day there are a huge number of events, some more interesting than others. How do you decide on some of these things? Some are obvious; others, less obvious that you're going to cover. | you, know one other thing about c-span i'm always wondering you know we in the news business know that every day there are, a huge number of events some. more interesting than others, how do you decide on some of these things? some are obvious. others less, obvious that you're going to | You know one other, thing about; C-SPAN I'm always wondering you know we in the news. business know, that every day, there are a huge number of events some more interesting than others How do you decide on. some of, these things? Some are obvious others less obvious that you're going to | you know, one other thing about c-span i'm always wondering, you know, we in the news business know that every day there are a huge number of events, some more interesting than others. how do you decide on some of these things? some are obvious; others, less obvious that you're going to cover. |
Yeah, the editorial board keeps track from balance standpoint, and when you don't have to worry about numbers you can say, if there's another side to an issue that hasn't been covered, you throw it up there and give the audience an opportunity to hear the other side. It may not have a very big audi... | yeah the editorial board keeps track from balance standpoint and when you don't have to worry about numbers you can say if there's another side to an issue that. hasn't been covered you throw it up there and give the audience an opportunity to hear the other side it may not have a, very big audienc... | Yeah the editorial board keeps track from balance standpoint and when you don't have to worry about, numbers you can say if there's another side to an issue that hasn't been covered you throw it up there and give the audience an opportunity to hear the other side It; may not have a very big audienc... | yeah, the editorial board keeps track from balance standpoint, and when you don't have to worry about numbers you can say, if there's another side to an issue that hasn't been covered, you throw it up there and give the audience an opportunity to hear the other side. it may not have a very big audi... |
OK. One quick last call. Chuck in Charlottesville. Hi, Chuck. | ok one; quick last call chuck in charlottesville hi | OK One quick last call Chuck in Charlottesville Hi | ok. one quick last call. chuck in charlottesville. hi, chuck. |
Hi, Mr. Lamb. First of all, I just wanted to say congratulations on 25 years, and C-SPAN's such an amazing service. It's a real testament to what can be done in the marketplace. Quick question. I find that as an interviewer you have sort of a unique style. You get a lot of information out of ver... | hi mr lamb first of all i just wanted, to say congratulations on 25 years and. c-span's such an amazing service it's a real testament to what can. be done in the marketplace quick question i find that as an interviewer you have sort of a unique style you get a lot of information out of very open... | Hi Mr, Lamb First of all I just wanted to say congratulations on 25 years and C-SPAN's such an amazing service It's a real testament to what can be done in the marketplace, Quick question I find that as, an interviewer you have sort of a unique style You get a lot of information out of very open... | hi, mr. lamb. first of all, i just wanted to say congratulations on 25 years, and c-span's such an amazing service. it's a real testament to what can be done in the marketplace. quick question. i find that as an interviewer you have sort of a unique style. you get a lot of information out of ver... |
We have about 30 seconds left for that answer now, Chuck. Thanks for the question, and if you can answer it quickly, Brian? | we have about 30 seconds left for that answer now. chuck thanks for the; question and if you can answer it quickly | We have about 30 seconds left, for that answer now Chuck Thanks for the question and, if you can answer it quickly | we have about 30 seconds left for that answer now, chuck. thanks for the question, and if you can answer it quickly, brian? |
Well, most other journalists don't do it my way, but I'm glad they don't. I mean, my way is my way, and other journalists get to where they are in this profession by being themselves. Sometimes I don't like it, but it's like everything else. A lot of people don't like it the way I do it. | well most. other journalists don't do it my way but, i'm glad they don't i mean my way is my way and other. journalists get, to where they are in this profession by being, themselves sometimes i don't like it but it's, like everything else a lot of people don't like. it, the way i do | Well most other journalists don't do it my way but I'm glad they don't I, mean my, way. is my way and other journalists get to where they are in this profession by being themselves Sometimes I don't like it, but it's like everything else A lot of people. don't like it the way I do | well, most other journalists don't do it my way, but i'm glad they don't. i mean, my way is my way, and other journalists get to where they are in this profession by being themselves. sometimes i don't like it, but it's like everything else. a lot of people don't like it the way i do it. |
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