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But what I found is--with the woman who was saying if the family is dysfunctional, then, you know, she's picturing social workers--not so. I'd say half these--very levelheaded girls, and they all had plans for college, just about all of them, but I'd say half of them came from dysfunctional families...	but what i found is--with the woman who was. saying if. the family is dysfunctional then you know she's picturing social workers--not so i'd say half these--very levelheaded girls and they all had plans for college just about all of them but i'd, say half of them. came from dysfunctional families bu...	But what I found is--with the. woman who was saying, if the family is dysfunctional then you, know she's picturing social workers--not; so I'd say half these--very levelheaded girls and, they all. had plans for college just about all of them but I'd say half of them came from, dysfunctional families...	but what i found is--with the woman who was saying if the family is dysfunctional, then, you know, she's picturing social workers--not so. i'd say half these--very levelheaded girls, and they all had plans for college, just about all of them, but i'd say half of them came from dysfunctional families...
Were there instances where the judge said, `No, I think you do need to talk to your parents'?	were there instances where the judge said `no i think you, do need to talk to your	Were there instances where, the. judge, said. `No, I think you do need to talk to your;	were there instances where the judge said, `no, i think you do need to talk to your parents'?
No, that never did happen. The judges sometimes would say--there was--each judge was different and they rotated, so there'd be a new crop every year. But they were prone to say that--well, first of all, they'd make it clear that just because the girl got their permission didn't mean she had to fol...	no that never did happen the judges sometimes would say--there was--each judge was different and they rotated so there'd be a new crop every year, but they were prone to say that--well first of all they'd make it clear that just because the girl got their permission didn't, mean she had to follow ...	No that never did happen The judges sometimes would say--there was--each judge. was different and they rotated so there'd be a new crop every year But they were. prone to say that--well first of all they'd make it clear, that just because the girl got their permission didn't mean she had to follow...	no, that never did happen. the judges sometimes would say--there was--each judge was different and they rotated, so there'd be a new crop every year. but they were prone to say that--well, first of all, they'd make it clear that just because the girl got their permission didn't mean she had to fol...
Yeah.			yeah.
You know, they're a juvenile court. They see kids from--you know, messed-up kids all day long every day, and they could see these were not messed-up kids. These were girls with a plan. These were girls who saw a bright future for themselves. That really was the situation, and I saw it hundreds o...	you know they're a juvenile, court they. see kids. from--you. know messed-up kids all day long. every day and they could see, these were not messed-up kids these were girls with a plan these were girls who saw a bright future for themselves that really was, the situation. and i saw it hundreds o...	You know they're a juvenile court They see kids, from--you know messed-up kids, all day long every, day and they could see these were not messed-up kids These were girls with a plan These, were. girls who. saw a bright future for themselves That really. was the situation and I saw it hundreds of...	you know, they're a juvenile court. they see kids from--you know, messed-up kids all day long every day, and they could see these were not messed-up kids. these were girls with a plan. these were girls who saw a bright future for themselves. that really was the situation, and i saw it hundreds o...
Kay Hymowitz, let me bring you in there. This was the nexus of the state and the family that you were concerned about.	kay hymowitz let me bring you in there this was the nexus of the state and the family that you, were concerned	Kay Hymowitz let. me bring you in there This, was the nexus of the state and the family that you were concerned	kay hymowitz, let me bring you in there. this was the nexus of the state and the family that you were concerned about.
Yes. Well, I'm still a little uncomfortable with the story that Lucy's telling, because essentially what you have is a judge--that is, the representative of the state--who is saying to a young person, `Oh, you tell me that your family is dysfunctional. OK, I'm going to act, you know, as the family...	yes well. i'm, still a little uncomfortable with the story. that lucy's telling because essentially what you, have, is, a judge--that is the representative of the state--who is saying to a young person, `oh you tell me that your family, is dysfunctional ok, i'm going to act you know as the family ...	Yes Well, I'm still a little uncomfortable with. the story that Lucy's telling because essentially what you have is a judge--that, is the representative of the state--who; is saying to a young person, `Oh you tell; me that your family is, dysfunctional OK I'm, going to act, you know as the family ...	yes. well, i'm still a little uncomfortable with the story that lucy's telling, because essentially what you have is a judge--that is, the representative of the state--who is saying to a young person, `oh, you tell me that your family is dysfunctional. ok, i'm going to act, you know, as the family...
Sarah--and I'm afraid we just have a few seconds left.	sarah--and i'm afraid we just have a. few seconds	Sarah--and I'm afraid we just have a few seconds	sarah--and i'm afraid we just have a few seconds left.
You know, an additional consideration here is that, as the time goes by where everybody's investigating and learning more, of course, the pregnancy is proceeding. And there has been some concern that the more protracted these court hearings and so on and so forth--that it might increase the proport...	you know an. additional consideration here, is that as, the time goes by. where everybody's investigating and learning more of course the pregnancy is proceeding and there has. been some concern that the more protracted these court hearings and so on and so. forth--that it might increase the propor...	You know an additional consideration here is that as the time goes by where everybody's investigating and. learning more of course the pregnancy is proceeding And there has been some concern, that the more protracted these court hearings and so on and so, forth--that it might increase, the, proport...	you know, an additional consideration here is that, as the time goes by where everybody's investigating and learning more, of course, the pregnancy is proceeding. and there has been some concern that the more protracted these court hearings and so on and so forth--that it might increase the proport...
Mm-hmm. Lucy, thanks very much for the phone call. We appreciate it.	mm-hmm lucy thanks very much for the. phone call we appreciate	Mm-hmm Lucy thanks very, much for the phone call. We appreciate	mm-hmm. lucy, thanks very much for the phone call. we appreciate it.
My pleasure.	my	My,	my pleasure.
Obviously, this is a conversation we could continue, and probably we will when the Supreme Court takes up the arguments on the parental notification issues come this fall. I'd like to thank our guests.	obviously this is a conversation we could continue and probably we. will when the supreme court takes up the arguments on the parental notification issues come this fall i'd like to thank our,	Obviously this is a conversation we could continue and probably we will, when the Supreme Court takes up. the arguments on the parental notification issues come this fall, I'd like to thank our	obviously, this is a conversation we could continue, and probably we will when the supreme court takes up the arguments on the parental notification issues come this fall. i'd like to thank our guests.
Kay Hymowitz, we appreciate your time today.	kay hymowitz we appreciate your time	Kay. Hymowitz we appreciate your, time	kay hymowitz, we appreciate your time today.
Thank you.	thank	Thank	thank you.
Kay Hymowitz, a senior fellow at The Manhattan Institute, joined us by phone from her home in Brooklyn, New York. And Sarah Brown was with us here in Studio 3A. She's director of the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy.	kay hymowitz a senior fellow, at the manhattan institute joined us by phone, from her home in brooklyn new york and sarah brown was with us here in studio 3a she's director of. the national campaign to prevent teen	Kay Hymowitz a senior fellow at The Manhattan Institute joined us by phone from. her home in Brooklyn New York And Sarah Brown was with, us here in Studio 3A She's director of the National Campaign to Prevent Teen	kay hymowitz, a senior fellow at the manhattan institute, joined us by phone from her home in brooklyn, new york. and sarah brown was with us here in studio 3a. she's director of the national campaign to prevent teen pregnancy.
Thanks very much for coming in.	thanks very much, for coming	Thanks very much for coming	thanks very much for coming in.
Always a pleasure.	always a.	Always a	always a pleasure.
You're listening to TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News.	you're listening to talk of the nation from npr	You're listening; to TALK OF THE NATION from, NPR	you're listening to talk of the nation from npr news.
David, you are just back from your hometown.	david you are, just back from your	David you are just back from your,	david, you are just back from your hometown.
Yeah, you know I never miss a chance to go to Pittsburgh, Renee. And this time, though, it was to talk politics with people. And I met a woman there named Tricia Cunningham. She volunteers for Donald Trump's campaign. And she says Trump is doing something familiar in western Pennsylvania. He's a Republican winning over...	yeah you know. i. never, miss a chance to go to pittsburgh. renee and this. time though it was to. talk politics with people and i met a woman there named tricia cunningham she volunteers for donald trump's campaign and she says trump is doing something familiar in western. pennsylvania he's a republican winning, over,...	Yeah. you know I never miss a chance to go to Pittsburgh, Renee And this time. though it. was to talk politics with people And I met a woman there named Tricia Cunningham. She volunteers for Donald Trump's campaign And she says Trump is, doing something familiar in western, Pennsylvania He's a Republican winning over s...	yeah, you know i never miss a chance to go to pittsburgh, renee. and this time, though, it was to talk politics with people. and i met a woman there named tricia cunningham. she volunteers for donald trump's campaign. and she says trump is doing something familiar in western pennsylvania. he's a republican winning over...
He could cross party lines and really unite people. And he's been the only president up until our current presidential election right now that I've been able to see do that.	he could cross party lines and really unite people and he's been. the. only president up until our current presidential election right now that i've been able to see do	He. could cross party, lines and really unite people. And he's been the only president up until our current presidential election right now, that I've been able to see do	he could cross party lines and really unite people. and he's been the only president up until our current presidential election right now that i've been able to see do that.
You literally have not seen someone in Reagan's mold until Donald Trump?	you literally. have, not seen someone in reagan's mold until donald	You literally have not seen someone in; Reagan's mold until Donald	you literally have not seen someone in reagan's mold until donald trump?
Absolutely not. Not one Person.	absolutely not not one	Absolutely not Not one	absolutely not. not one person.
And Tricia now spends endless hours telling working families in some gritty, struggling communities that Trump is their candidate.	and tricia now spends endless hours telling working families in some gritty struggling communities that trump is their	And Tricia now spends, endless hours telling working families in some gritty struggling communities that Trump is their	and tricia now spends endless hours telling working families in some gritty, struggling communities that trump is their candidate.
You can email me. I'm going to get that information.	you can email me i'm going to get that	You can; email me I'm going to. get that	you can email me. i'm going to get that information.
She's part of Trump's ground game in western Pennsylvania, a state holding its primary later this month. We caught up with her outside a nursing home where she comes to visit her mom. She was on her cell phone planning a local Trump rally.	she's part of; trump's ground game in western pennsylvania a state holding its primary later this month we caught up with her outside a nursing home where she comes to visit her mom, she was on her cell phone planning a local trump	She's part of Trump's ground game in, western Pennsylvania, a state holding its primary later. this month We caught. up with her outside a nursing. home where; she comes to; visit her mom She was on her cell phone planning. a local Trump	she's part of trump's ground game in western pennsylvania, a state holding its primary later this month. we caught up with her outside a nursing home where she comes to visit her mom. she was on her cell phone planning a local trump rally.
I have women for Trump that are going to be there. I have doctors that are affected by Obamacare. There's so many stories that are going to be in that audience that we can kind of - I don't want to say control, but we have that kind of...	i have women for trump that are going, to be there. i have doctors that are affected by obamacare there's so many stories that are going to be in that audience that we can kind of - i don't want to say control but we have that kind,	I have women for Trump. that are going. to be there I have doctors, that, are. affected by Obamacare There's so many stories; that are going to be in; that audience that we, can kind of - I, don't want to say control but we have that kind	i have women for trump that are going to be there. i have doctors that are affected by obamacare. there's so many stories that are going to be in that audience that we can kind of - i don't want to say control, but we have that kind of...
Tricia is 43. She has long blonde hair. She's got this lapel pin - picture an American flag with a cross as the flagpole. She never stops working the phones, and she rarely sees her husband Sean. She says he understands.	tricia is 43. she has long blonde hair she's got this lapel pin - picture an american. flag with a cross as the flagpole she never stops working the. phones. and she; rarely sees her husband sean she says, he	Tricia is 43. She has long blonde. hair She's got this lapel pin - picture an American flag with a cross as the flagpole She never stops working the phones and she rarely, sees her husband Sean. She says he	tricia is 43. she has long blonde hair. she's got this lapel pin - picture an american flag with a cross as the flagpole. she never stops working the phones, and she rarely sees her husband sean. she says he understands.
He doesn't see me very often unless he comes to an Event.	he doesn't see me very often unless, he comes to an	He doesn't see, me very often unless he comes to, an	he doesn't see me very often unless he comes to an event.
But it's guys like her husband she thinks about when she's spreading Trump's message. Sean owns a tree clearing business, and Tricia says he's been competing for work with people who are in the country illegally.	but it's guys like her, husband she thinks about. when she's spreading trump's message sean owns, a tree clearing business and tricia says he's been. competing for work with people who are in the country	But it's guys like her husband she thinks about when she's spreading, Trump's message Sean owns, a tree clearing. business and. Tricia says he's been competing for work with people who are in the country	but it's guys like her husband she thinks about when she's spreading trump's message. sean owns a tree clearing business, and tricia says he's been competing for work with people who are in the country illegally.
Is that unusual for you in presidential elections, to vote for the Democrat?	is that unusual for; you in, presidential elections, to vote for the	Is that unusual for you in, presidential. elections to vote for the,	is that unusual for you in presidential elections, to vote for the democrat?
And, Hirsh Goodman, let me begin with you. When Prime Minister Olmert began this war he set out a few things that he hoped to accomplish. One, get his soldiers back. Two, defeat the military forces of Hezbollah. And three, make the Lebanese government forces, the army, the Lebanese army, responsible for security on the...	and hirsh goodman. let me begin with, you when prime minister olmert began this war he set out a few things that he. hoped to accomplish one get his soldiers back. two defeat the military forces of hezbollah and three make the lebanese government forces the army the lebanese, army responsible for security on the southe...	And Hirsh Goodman let me begin with you When Prime Minister Olmert began this war he set out a few things that he, hoped to accomplish One get; his soldiers back Two defeat the military forces of Hezbollah And three make the Lebanese government forces the army the Lebanese army responsible for security on the southern ...	and, hirsh goodman, let me begin with you. when prime minister olmert began this war he set out a few things that he hoped to accomplish. one, get his soldiers back. two, defeat the military forces of hezbollah. and three, make the lebanese government forces, the army, the lebanese army, responsible for security on the...
Well, I think he did accomplish the final one, which did get the Lebanese government to deploy its forces. It doesn't matter if they - effective or not effective. It's a fact that for the first time they exercised the sovereignty of their own territory, and that was - and achieved. The other goals weren't achieved. And...	well i think he did accomplish the final one which did get the lebanese government to deploy its forces it doesn't matter if they - effective, or not effective it's a fact that for, the first time they exercised the sovereignty of their own territory. and that was - and achieved the other goals weren't achieved and. it...	Well I think he did accomplish the final one which did get the Lebanese government to deploy; its forces It; doesn't matter if they - effective or not effective It's a fact that, for the first time they exercised the sovereignty of. their own territory and that was - and achieved The other goals weren't achieved And it...	well, i think he did accomplish the final one, which did get the lebanese government to deploy its forces. it doesn't matter if they - effective or not effective. it's a fact that for the first time they exercised the sovereignty of their own territory, and that was - and achieved. the other goals weren't achieved. and...
Yeah, the military commander and the defense minister had since lost their jobs, and Prime Minister Olmert is in, well, I think - he's got a very weak government, I think that's fair to say.	yeah the military commander and the defense minister had since lost their jobs and prime; minister, olmert is in well i think - he's got a very weak government. i think that's fair to	Yeah the military commander and the defense minister had since lost, their jobs and Prime Minister Olmert is in well I think - he's got a very weak government I think that's, fair to	yeah, the military commander and the defense minister had since lost their jobs, and prime minister olmert is in, well, i think - he's got a very weak government, i think that's fair to say.
No, actually, the irony is that he has a pretty stable government, because everybody wants to stay in power, and nobody really wants election right now. And the (unintelligible) is in sort of disarray and the Labor Party's just got new leadership. And Kadima, which is Olmert's party, doesn't know really what it is or w...	no actually the irony is that he has a pretty stable government because everybody wants to stay in. power and nobody really wants election right now and the (unintelligible) is in sort of disarray and the labor party's just got new leadership and kadima which is olmert's party doesn't know really what it is or where yo...	No actually the irony is that he has a pretty stable government because everybody. wants to stay in power and nobody really wants election right; now And the (unintelligible) is in sort of disarray and the Labor Party's just got new leadership And Kadima which is Olmert's party doesn't know really what it is or where y...	no, actually, the irony is that he has a pretty stable government, because everybody wants to stay in power, and nobody really wants election right now. and the (unintelligible) is in sort of disarray and the labor party's just got new leadership. and kadima, which is olmert's party, doesn't know really what it is or w...
So, I think we in the transition stage and that transition stage plays to government stability at this time. But in terms of popularity, in terms of respect, in terms of leadership, in terms of integrity, in terms of maturity, all those are unfortunately failures of the Prime Minister in a way this war was handled. The...	so i think we in the transition stage and that transition stage, plays, to government stability at this time but in terms of popularity in terms of, respect in terms of leadership in terms of integrity in terms of maturity all those are unfortunately failures of the prime minister in a, way this war was handled the, de...	So I think we in the transition stage and that transition stage plays, to government stability at; this time But in terms of popularity in terms of respect in terms of leadership, in terms of integrity in terms of maturity. all those are unfortunately, failures of the Prime Minister in a way; this. war was handled The ...	so, i think we in the transition stage and that transition stage plays to government stability at this time. but in terms of popularity, in terms of respect, in terms of leadership, in terms of integrity, in terms of maturity, all those are unfortunately failures of the prime minister in a way this war was handled. the...
Rami Khouri, let me turn to you. What did Hezbollah manage to accomplish in this conflict?	rami khouri let me turn to you what did hezbollah manage to accomplish in this	Rami Khouri let me turn to you What did Hezbollah manage to accomplish in. this	rami khouri, let me turn to you. what did hezbollah manage to accomplish in this conflict?
The most important thing, I think, that it accomplished was to show both the willingness and the capacity to fight a 34-day war with Israel and to force Israel and the United States behind it, to accept a political ceasefire and a U.N.-mediated resolution after Israel and the U.S. and Britain, and one or two others had...	the most important thing i think that it accomplished, was to show both the willingness and the capacity to fight a, 34-day war with israel and to force israel and the united states behind it to accept a. political ceasefire and, a u.n.-mediated resolution after israel and the u.s and britain and one, or two others had...	The most important thing, I think that, it accomplished was to show both the willingness and the, capacity to fight a 34-day war with Israel and to force Israel and the United States behind it to accept a political ceasefire and a; U.N.-mediated resolution. after, Israel and the U.S and Britain and one. or two others; ...	the most important thing, i think, that it accomplished was to show both the willingness and the capacity to fight a 34-day war with israel and to force israel and the united states behind it, to accept a political ceasefire and a u.n.-mediated resolution after israel and the u.s. and britain, and one or two others had...
And of course, it didn't get the job done very well. The Israeli armed forces didn't, and Hezbollah was able to show that it was able to fight Israel to a draw to some extent, in a manner that no other combination of Arab armies had been able to do, and to force Israel into a political ceasefire, which was also what ha...	and, of course it. didn't get the job done very well the israeli armed forces didn't. and hezbollah was able to show that it, was able to fight israel to a draw to some extent in a manner that no other combination of, arab armies had been able to do and to force, israel into a political ceasefire which was also what; h...	And of course it didn't get the job. done very well, The Israeli armed forces didn't and Hezbollah was. able to show that it was able, to fight Israel to a draw, to some extent in a manner, that no other combination of; Arab armies had been able to do and to force Israel into a political ceasefire which, was also, what...	and of course, it didn't get the job done very well. the israeli armed forces didn't, and hezbollah was able to show that it was able to fight israel to a draw to some extent, in a manner that no other combination of arab armies had been able to do, and to force israel into a political ceasefire, which was also what ha...