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They got a little bit too complacent. Thinking, oh our problems are over, gangs have gone away, we've solved the problem of crime. Well they didn't solve it, they controlled it. And as they got a little complacent, they think well, we don't need to try so hard anymore and they moved resources elsewhere. | they got a little bit too complacent thinking oh our problems are over gangs have gone away we've solved the problem of crime well. they didn't solve it they controlled it, and as they got a, little complacent they think well we, don't need. to try so hard anymore and they moved resources | They got a little. bit too complacent Thinking oh our, problems are over gangs have gone; away we've solved the problem of crime Well they didn't solve it they controlled it And as. they got a little complacent they think well we don't need. to, try so hard. anymore and they moved. resources | they got a little bit too complacent. thinking, oh our problems are over, gangs have gone away, we've solved the problem of crime. well they didn't solve it, they controlled it. and as they got a little complacent, they think well, we don't need to try so hard anymore and they moved resources elsewhere. |
Well, crime came back with a, you know, with a vengeance. And we have a larger number of kids in our population now who are attracted to gangs. They see gangs as exciting, cool, status conferring. And so, when we let down our guard, the gangs made a comeback. | well crime, came back with a you know with. a vengeance and we have a larger number of kids in our population now who are attracted to, gangs they see gangs; as exciting cool status conferring and so when we. let down our guard the. gangs made a. | Well crime came back, with a you. know with a vengeance And we have a larger number of kids in our population now, who are attracted to gangs They see gangs as exciting. cool status. conferring And so when we let down our, guard the gangs; made a | well, crime came back with a, you know, with a vengeance. and we have a larger number of kids in our population now who are attracted to gangs. they see gangs as exciting, cool, status conferring. and so, when we let down our guard, the gangs made a comeback. |
Bob, I'm sorry? | bob i'm | Bob. I'm | bob, i'm sorry? |
But that's gang violence as opposed to citizenry violence, isn't it? | but, that's gang violence as opposed to, citizenry violence isn't, | But that's gang violence as opposed to citizenry violence isn't | but that's gang violence as opposed to citizenry violence, isn't it? |
But there are others - those weren't the only cities to see an increase. I think yes, there are lots of people who believe that a concealed weapon law sends a message to offenders: watch out, you attack me, I'm going to get you first. But there's just not a lot of evidence that that's a significant deterrent. | but there are others - those weren't. the only cities to, see an increase i think; yes there are lots of people who believe; that a concealed weapon law sends a message to offenders: watch out; you attack me i'm going to get you first but there's just not a lot of evidence that that's a significant | But, there are others - those weren't the only cities to see an, increase, I think yes there are lots of people who believe that a concealed weapon law sends a message to offenders: watch out you attack me I'm going to get you first But there's just not a lot of, evidence that that's a significant | but there are others - those weren't the only cities to see an increase. i think yes, there are lots of people who believe that a concealed weapon law sends a message to offenders: watch out, you attack me, i'm going to get you first. but there's just not a lot of evidence that that's a significant deterrent. |
You know, we're talking about, in many of these cases, are offenders who really don't think about the future. They're - I mean, we're talking about kids who live for today and die for today, and things as seemingly trivial as a leather jacket or a pair of sneakers is a matter of life or death. | you know we're talking about in many of these. cases are offenders who really don't think, about the future they're - i mean we're talking about kids who live for today and die for today and things as seemingly trivial as a leather jacket or a, pair of sneakers is a matter of life, or | You know we're talking about. in many of these cases are offenders who really don't think about the future They're - I mean we're, talking about kids who live for today and die for; today and things as seemingly trivial as a leather, jacket or, a. pair of sneakers is a matter; of life, or | you know, we're talking about, in many of these cases, are offenders who really don't think about the future. they're - i mean, we're talking about kids who live for today and die for today, and things as seemingly trivial as a leather jacket or a pair of sneakers is a matter of life or death. |
If you don't really have much hope for the future, and if you don't really think about what things are going to be like for you at the age of 25 or 30 and you're just living for today - then you have kids who are carrying guns and really don't care about concealed weapons laws, even if they knew about them. A lot of th... | if you don't. really have. much hope for the future and if you don't really think about what things are going to be like, for you at the age of; 25 or 30 and you're just, living for, today, - then you have kids who are carrying guns and really don't. care about concealed weapons laws even if they, knew about. them a lo... | If you don't really, have much hope, for the future and if you don't really think about what things are going to be like for, you at the age of 25 or 30 and you're just living, for today - then you have kids who are carrying guns and really, don't care about. concealed weapons laws even if, they. knew about them A lot ... | if you don't really have much hope for the future, and if you don't really think about what things are going to be like for you at the age of 25 or 30 and you're just living for today - then you have kids who are carrying guns and really don't care about concealed weapons laws, even if they knew about them. a lot of th... |
Bob, thanks very much for the phone call. | bob thanks very much for the phone | Bob thanks very much for the phone | bob, thanks very much for the phone call. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank | thank you. |
Let's talk now with Bob Donovan who's with us from Milwaukee where he's an alderman and chair of the Public Safety Committee. Thanks very much for being with us today. | let's talk now with bob donovan who's with us from milwaukee where he's an alderman and chair of, the public safety committee thanks very much for being with us | Let's talk now with Bob Donovan who's with us from Milwaukee. where he's an alderman and chair of the Public Safety Committee, Thanks very much for being with us | let's talk now with bob donovan who's with us from milwaukee where he's an alderman and chair of the public safety committee. thanks very much for being with us today. |
Oh, my pleasure. Thank you. | oh my pleasure thank | Oh my pleasure Thank | oh, my pleasure. thank you. |
And Bob, tell us a little bit about what's been happening there in Milwaukee. | and bob tell us a little bit; about what's been happening there in | And Bob tell us a little. bit about what's been happening there in | and bob, tell us a little bit about what's been happening there in milwaukee. |
Well, I don't think it's any different than certainly what some of the other cities have been experiencing. We have seen an increase in violence in the city. We had a big increase in the murder rate last year. And those numbers have, for many years, stayed stubbornly high. And, you know, that makes a real challenge for... | well i don't think it's any different than certainly what some of the other. cities have been experiencing we have seen an increase in violence in the city we had a big increase in. the murder rate, last year and those numbers have for many years; stayed stubbornly high and you know that makes a real challenge for the ... | Well I don't think; it's any different than certainly what some of the other cities have, been experiencing We have seen. an increase in violence in the city We had a big increase; in the, murder. rate last year And those numbers have for many years stayed stubbornly high And you know that makes a real challenge for th... | well, i don't think it's any different than certainly what some of the other cities have been experiencing. we have seen an increase in violence in the city. we had a big increase in the murder rate last year. and those numbers have, for many years, stayed stubbornly high. and, you know, that makes a real challenge for... |
And how is the city responding? | and how is the city | And how is the city | and how is the city responding? |
Well, I personally am an advocate of a more aggressive law and order type of approach. I've advocated for filling the 250 police vacancies that we currently have. And I think, over the years, we have maintained a high level of vacancies primarily due to budget constraints. And I think we've dug ourselves into the hole. | well i, personally am. an advocate of a more aggressive. law and order type of approach i've advocated for filling the 250 police vacancies that we currently have and, i think over the. years we have maintained. a high level. of vacancies primarily due to, budget constraints and i think we've dug ourselves into the | Well I personally am an. advocate. of a more aggressive law and, order type of approach I've advocated for; filling the 250 police vacancies, that we currently have And I think over. the years we, have maintained. a high level of vacancies. primarily. due to budget constraints And I think we've. dug ourselves into the | well, i personally am an advocate of a more aggressive law and order type of approach. i've advocated for filling the 250 police vacancies that we currently have. and i think, over the years, we have maintained a high level of vacancies primarily due to budget constraints. and i think we've dug ourselves into the hole. |
And, you know, I further advocate for a more broken windows-type of policing, of foot patrol, bicycle officers, problems solving, out in the neighborhoods, that I think can make an impact in order maintenance. And that's certainly what I'm looking to try and restore in the city of Milwaukee. And I know others as well, ... | and you know i further advocate for, a more broken windows-type of policing of foot patrol bicycle officers problems solving out in; the neighborhoods that i think can make an impact in, order maintenance and that's certainly what i'm looking, to try and restore in, the city, of milwaukee. and i know others as well | And. you know I further advocate for a more broken windows-type of policing; of foot patrol, bicycle officers problems solving. out in the neighborhoods that I think can make an impact in order maintenance And that's certainly what I'm looking to try and restore in the city of Milwaukee And, I. know, others as well | and, you know, i further advocate for a more broken windows-type of policing, of foot patrol, bicycle officers, problems solving, out in the neighborhoods, that i think can make an impact in order maintenance. and that's certainly what i'm looking to try and restore in the city of milwaukee. and i know others as well, ... |
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Excuse me just a moment. We're talking about an increase in crime statistics in some cities across the country. And you're listening to TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News. | excuse, me just a moment we're talking, about an increase in crime statistics in some cities across the country and you're listening to talk of the nation from npr | Excuse me. just a moment We're talking about an increase in crime statistics in, some cities across the country And you're listening to TALK OF THE NATION from NPR | excuse me just a moment. we're talking about an increase in crime statistics in some cities across the country. and you're listening to talk of the nation from npr news. |
And Mr. Fox, go ahead. | and mr fox go | And Mr Fox go, | and mr. fox, go ahead. |
Yeah, very quickly. The difficulty with the fact that so many cities have seen these declining numbers of police officers is, once we wake up and decide that we're going to restore those resources, you can't do it overnight. Because you've got to recruit them, you've got to train them, and you've got to give them some ... | yeah very quickly the difficulty with, the fact that so many. cities have seen these declining numbers of police officers is once we wake up and decide that we're, going to restore those resources, you can't do it, overnight because you've got to recruit them you've got to train them and you've got to give them some | Yeah very; quickly The, difficulty with the fact that so many cities have seen these declining numbers of police officers is once we wake. up and decide, that we're going to restore those resources you can't do it; overnight, Because you've got to recruit them you've got to, train them and you've got to give them some.... | yeah, very quickly. the difficulty with the fact that so many cities have seen these declining numbers of police officers is, once we wake up and decide that we're going to restore those resources, you can't do it overnight. because you've got to recruit them, you've got to train them, and you've got to give them some ... |
So, it's actually a several year lag time between the point when we wake up and say we need to expand police resources once again and the point that we really get to where we were 10 years ago. | so it's actually a several year lag, time between the point when we wake up and, say we need to expand police resources once again and the point that we really get to where. we, were 10 years | So it's actually a several year lag time; between, the point when we wake up and say we need to expand police; resources once again and the point that we really get to where we were 10 years | so, it's actually a several year lag time between the point when we wake up and say we need to expand police resources once again and the point that we really get to where we were 10 years ago. |
And as you suggested, Alderman Donovan, this isn't cheap. | and as you suggested alderman donovan this isn't | And as you, suggested Alderman Donovan this isn't | and as you suggested, alderman donovan, this isn't cheap. |
Oh, absolutely not. But, you know, many of my colleagues, other people in the community, will argue we can't afford it. Well, I would argue we can't afford not to do it. And the comment is absolutely right. An officer, to be an effective officer, takes at least five to eight years on the job. To really know what he or ... | oh absolutely not but you know many of my colleagues other people in the community will argue we can't afford it well. i would argue we can't afford not to do, it and the comment is absolutely right an officer to be an effective officer takes. at least five, to eight years on the job to really, know what he or she is d... | Oh absolutely not But you, know many of my colleagues other people. in the community will argue we can't afford it Well I would argue we can't afford not, to do it And the comment is absolutely right An officer to be an effective officer takes at least five to eight years on the job To really know what he or she. is do... | oh, absolutely not. but, you know, many of my colleagues, other people in the community, will argue we can't afford it. well, i would argue we can't afford not to do it. and the comment is absolutely right. an officer, to be an effective officer, takes at least five to eight years on the job. to really know what he or ... |
Go ahead. | go. | Go | go ahead. |
And a few hundred X dollars in the taxpayer's pocket, which I know they enjoy, is not a lot of consolation if you're staring down the wrong end of a gun. These programs take money and the choice is really ours. Either pay for the programs now or pray for the victims later. | and a few hundred x dollars in. the taxpayer's pocket which i know they enjoy is not a, lot of consolation, if you're staring down the wrong end of a gun these programs take money and the choice is really. ours; either pay for the programs now, or pray. for. the victims | And a few, hundred X dollars in, the taxpayer's pocket which I. know they enjoy, is not. a lot of consolation if you're staring down the wrong end of a gun These programs, take, money and the choice is, really ours Either pay for the programs now or pray for the victims | and a few hundred x dollars in the taxpayer's pocket, which i know they enjoy, is not a lot of consolation if you're staring down the wrong end of a gun. these programs take money and the choice is really ours. either pay for the programs now or pray for the victims later. |
And what do you see as the problem in Milwaukee? Why are these - the level of crimes been stubbornly high? | and what do you see as, the problem in milwaukee? why are these - the level of crimes been stubbornly | And what do you see as the. problem in Milwaukee? Why are these - the level. of crimes; been stubbornly | and what do you see as the problem in milwaukee? why are these - the level of crimes been stubbornly high? |
Well, I think there may be a number of reasons. You know, you look back at our community and how it's changed over the years. We've seen an increase in unemployment. We were once a great manufacturing city. That, you know, that has changed. I think many of the problems that we're experiencing in our community is relate... | well i think there may be a number of reasons you know you look back at our community and how it's. changed over the years we've seen an increase in unemployment we were once a great manufacturing city that you know that has changed i. think many of the; problems that, we're experiencing. in our community is related to... | Well I think there may be, a number of reasons, You, know you look back at. our community and how it's changed over the years We've seen an increase in unemployment. We were once a great manufacturing city That you know that has changed I think many of the problems that we're experiencing in our, community is related t... | well, i think there may be a number of reasons. you know, you look back at our community and how it's changed over the years. we've seen an increase in unemployment. we were once a great manufacturing city. that, you know, that has changed. i think many of the problems that we're experiencing in our community is relate... |
I see a change in people's patience, if you will, for no other reason. It's not uncommon to run into individuals and have situations where people - we had an incident not long ago where two ladies were arguing over a dress and one pulled out a gun and killed the other. You know, I mean, it's ridiculous things like that... | i see a change in people's patience if you will for no other. reason it's not uncommon to run into individuals and have situations where people - we, had an incident not long ago where two ladies were arguing over a dress and one pulled out a gun and killed the other you know i mean it's ridiculous things like. that th... | I see a change in, people's patience if you will for no other reason It's not uncommon to. run into individuals and have situations where people - we had an incident not long ago where two. ladies were arguing, over a dress and one pulled out. a gun and killed. the other, You know I mean it's ridiculous things. like th... | i see a change in people's patience, if you will, for no other reason. it's not uncommon to run into individuals and have situations where people - we had an incident not long ago where two ladies were arguing over a dress and one pulled out a gun and killed the other. you know, i mean, it's ridiculous things like that... |
I wonder about that, James Alan Fox. We do hear anecdotal evidence of just what the alderman is talking about, where incidents that might have involved an argument turn into fistfights or what used to be a fistfight turns into a knife fight, and on up the scale. | i wonder about that james, alan fox we do hear; anecdotal evidence; of just what the alderman is talking about where incidents that might have involved, an argument turn into fistfights or what used to be a fistfight turns into a knife fight and on. up the | I wonder about that James Alan Fox, We do hear anecdotal evidence of just what the, alderman is talking about where incidents that might have involved an argument turn into fistfights or what used to be a fistfight turns into a knife fight and on up the | i wonder about that, james alan fox. we do hear anecdotal evidence of just what the alderman is talking about, where incidents that might have involved an argument turn into fistfights or what used to be a fistfight turns into a knife fight, and on up the scale. |
All right. The deal that we're talking about here, what would happen if this deal actually was agreed on? | all right the deal, that we're talking about here what would happen if this deal actually was agreed | All right The deal that, we're talking about here what would happen if this deal actually, was agreed | all right. the deal that we're talking about here, what would happen if this deal actually was agreed on? |
Shocked. She couldn't believe that there is a law that you can kill your baby. And that was all we needed to know about him. He does not align with how we vote. | shocked she couldn't believe that there is a law that you can kill your baby and that was all we needed to know about him he does not align with how we | Shocked She couldn't believe that there. is a law, that you can kill your baby And that, was all. we needed to. know. about him He does not align; with how we | shocked. she couldn't believe that there is a law that you can kill your baby. and that was all we needed to know about him. he does not align with how we vote. |
Sure, over the past 30 years the character of crime and homicide and violence has changed a lot. The conventional wisdom once was that most violent crimes and homicide occurs within the family. And over the years have been many, many more cases of stranger homicides, acquaintance murders, neighbor upon neighbor. People... | sure over the past 30 years the character of crime and homicide and. violence; has changed a lot the conventional wisdom once was that most violent crimes and homicide occurs within the family and. over the years have been many many. more cases, of stranger homicides acquaintance murders neighbor upon neighbor people w... | Sure over, the past 30 years the character of crime and homicide. and violence has changed a lot The conventional wisdom once, was, that most violent crimes and homicide occurs within the family And over the years have been many many more cases of stranger homicides acquaintance murders neighbor upon neighbor People wh... | sure, over the past 30 years the character of crime and homicide and violence has changed a lot. the conventional wisdom once was that most violent crimes and homicide occurs within the family. and over the years have been many, many more cases of stranger homicides, acquaintance murders, neighbor upon neighbor. people... |
And I wonder, the police chief here in Washington D.C. said that he's seeing a new pattern of - traditionally, in the past, people have committed most crimes within a mile of where they live - people moving further and further away from their homes to commit crimes. Is that something that you're seeing in Milwaukee? | and i. wonder the police chief here in, washington d.c said that he's seeing a new pattern of - traditionally in the past people have committed most crimes within a mile. of where they live - people moving further and further away from. their. homes to, commit crimes is that something that you're seeing in | And I wonder the police chief here in Washington D.C said that he's seeing a new pattern of - traditionally in the past people have committed most crimes within a mile of where they live - people moving further and further away from their. homes to, commit. crimes Is that. something that you're seeing in | and i wonder, the police chief here in washington d.c. said that he's seeing a new pattern of - traditionally, in the past, people have committed most crimes within a mile of where they live - people moving further and further away from their homes to commit crimes. is that something that you're seeing in milwaukee? |
Oh, I have no doubt. We live in a very mobile society. We're seeing things on occasion, occur in our suburbs that may not have been the case years ago. And individuals traveling from one neighborhood to another. We've seen that even go on with gangs, traveling from one side of the town to another and conducting busines... | oh i have no doubt we live. in a very mobile society we're seeing, things on occasion occur in our suburbs that may not have been the case, years ago and individuals traveling from one, neighborhood to another we've seen that, even go on with gangs traveling from one side of the town to another. and conducting business... | Oh I have no doubt We live in a very mobile society We're seeing things on occasion occur in our suburbs that; may not have, been the case years ago And individuals traveling from one neighborhood to another We've seen that even go on with gangs traveling from one side of the town, to another and conducting business an... | oh, i have no doubt. we live in a very mobile society. we're seeing things on occasion, occur in our suburbs that may not have been the case years ago. and individuals traveling from one neighborhood to another. we've seen that even go on with gangs, traveling from one side of the town to another and conducting busines... |
Let me just add that the money's there. It's - the issue is our priorities. How many of these cities have recently spent millions of dollars to build sports facilities when one could make the case that the owner's of these franchises should be putting up the dough themselves? Like actually Bob Kraft did here in Boston.... | let me just add, that the money's there; it's - the issue is our priorities how many of these cities have recently spent millions of dollars to build sports facilities when one could make the case that the owner's of these franchises should. be putting up the dough themselves? like actually bob kraft did. here in bosto... | Let me just add that the money's there It's - the issue, is our priorities How many of these. cities have recently spent millions of, dollars to build sports facilities when, one could make, the case that the owner's of these franchises, should be putting up the dough. themselves? Like actually Bob Kraft did here in Bo... | let me just add that the money's there. it's - the issue is our priorities. how many of these cities have recently spent millions of dollars to build sports facilities when one could make the case that the owner's of these franchises should be putting up the dough themselves? like actually bob kraft did here in boston.... |
Clearly, they hope that the tax revenues generated by that activity might contribute down the line. But that's another argument for another program. Alderman Donovan, thanks very much. | clearly they hope that the tax revenues generated by that activity might contribute down the line but that's another argument. for, another program alderman donovan thanks very | Clearly they hope that the tax, revenues generated by that activity might contribute down; the line But that's another argument for another program Alderman Donovan thanks very | clearly, they hope that the tax revenues generated by that activity might contribute down the line. but that's another argument for another program. alderman donovan, thanks very much. |
Oh, you bet. Thank you. | oh you bet thank | Oh you bet Thank | oh, you bet. thank you. |
Bob Donovan is an alderman in Milwaukee and chair of the Public Safety Committee. More of your calls on crime and what's happening where you live when we come from a short break. I'm Neal Conan, it's the TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News. | bob donovan is an alderman in milwaukee and chair of the public safety committee more of your calls on crime and what's happening where. you live when we, come from a short break i'm neal conan it's the talk of. the nation from; npr | Bob Donovan is an alderman in Milwaukee and. chair, of, the Public Safety Committee More of. your, calls on crime and what's happening where you live when we come. from a short break I'm Neal Conan it's the TALK OF THE, NATION from NPR | bob donovan is an alderman in milwaukee and chair of the public safety committee. more of your calls on crime and what's happening where you live when we come from a short break. i'm neal conan, it's the talk of the nation from npr news. |
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This is TALK OF THE NATION. I'm Neal Conan in Washington. Here are the headlines from some of the other stories we're following here today at NPR News. The continued fighting in Lebanon was the subject of a meeting of foreign ministers in Rome today. They called for an urgent and sustainable ceasefire. As well as the d... | this is talk of the nation i'm, neal conan in washington here, are the headlines from some of the other stories we're, following here today at npr news the continued fighting in lebanon was the subject of a. meeting of foreign ministers in rome today they called for an, urgent and sustainable ceasefire, as well as the ... | This is TALK OF THE NATION I'm Neal Conan in Washington Here are the headlines from some of the other stories we're. following here today at NPR. News The continued fighting in Lebanon was the subject, of a meeting of foreign ministers in. Rome today They called for an urgent and sustainable, ceasefire As well as the d... | this is talk of the nation. i'm neal conan in washington. here are the headlines from some of the other stories we're following here today at npr news. the continued fighting in lebanon was the subject of a meeting of foreign ministers in rome today. they called for an urgent and sustainable ceasefire. as well as the d... |
And Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki insisted today that his country is a frontline in the war on terrorism, and said those behind the rampant violence there are preventing - excuse me - perverting the Islamic faith. Al-Maliki's comments came during a speech before a joint meeting of the U.S. Congress. | and iraqi prime minister nouri al-maliki insisted today that his country is a frontline in the war on terrorism and said those behind the rampant violence there are preventing - excuse me - perverting the islamic faith al-maliki's comments came during a speech, before a joint meeting of, the u.s | And Iraqi. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki insisted today that his country is a frontline in the war on terrorism and said those behind the rampant violence there, are preventing - excuse me, - perverting. the Islamic faith Al-Maliki's, comments came. during, a speech before a joint meeting, of the U.S | and iraqi prime minister nouri al-maliki insisted today that his country is a frontline in the war on terrorism, and said those behind the rampant violence there are preventing - excuse me - perverting the islamic faith. al-maliki's comments came during a speech before a joint meeting of the u.s. congress. |
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In a few minutes, a new history of diplomacy from Ancient Greece to Renaissance Europe, but let's continue our conversation on measuring and fighting violent crime. Our guest is James Fox, professor of criminal justice at Northeastern University in Boston, fellow at the Bureau of Justice Statistics, and a columnist for... | in a, few minutes a new, history of diplomacy from, ancient, greece to, renaissance europe but let's continue our conversation on measuring and fighting violent crime our guest is james fox professor, of criminal justice. at northeastern university in boston fellow at the bureau of justice statistics and a, columnist f... | In a few minutes a new history of diplomacy. from. Ancient Greece to Renaissance Europe but let's continue our conversation on measuring and fighting violent crime, Our guest is James Fox professor, of criminal justice at Northeastern University in Boston fellow, at the Bureau of Justice Statistics and a columnist for.... | in a few minutes, a new history of diplomacy from ancient greece to renaissance europe, but let's continue our conversation on measuring and fighting violent crime. our guest is james fox, professor of criminal justice at northeastern university in boston, fellow at the bureau of justice statistics, and a columnist for... |
And let's get another caller on the line. This is Molly. Molly's calling us from St. Louis. | and let's get another caller. on the, line this is molly molly's calling us from st | And let's get another caller on the line This is Molly Molly's calling us from St | and let's get another caller on the line. this is molly. molly's calling us from st. louis. |
Hi. Thank you for taking my call. | hi thank you for taking my | Hi Thank you for taking my | hi. thank you for taking my call. |
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My question is that you focused a lot on violence in the larger cities and I wondered - I heard recently that gang violence is becoming a bigger and bigger problem in middle sized cities and even smaller sized cities, where there's not so much for kids to do. And I wondered what do you think is causing that? | my question is that you focused a lot on violence, in the larger cities and i wondered - i heard recently that gang, violence is becoming a bigger and bigger. problem in middle sized cities and even smaller sized cities where there's not so much for kids to do and i wondered what do you think is causing | My question is that you focused, a lot on violence in the larger cities and I wondered; - I heard recently that gang violence is, becoming a bigger and bigger problem in middle sized cities and even smaller sized cities where there's not so much for kids to do And I wondered what do you think is causing | my question is that you focused a lot on violence in the larger cities and i wondered - i heard recently that gang violence is becoming a bigger and bigger problem in middle sized cities and even smaller sized cities, where there's not so much for kids to do. and i wondered what do you think is causing that? |
Do the statistics bear that out, James Fox? | do the statistics bear that out james | Do the statistics bear that out. James, | do the statistics bear that out, james fox? |
Actually yes, and in St. Louis actually the situation has grown quite worrisome. If I recall, you had about a 15 percent increase in homicide a year ago, but an 80 percent increase the year before that. I think things in St. Louis are way up if I recall. | actually yes and in st louis actually the situation has grown quite, worrisome if i recall you had about, a 15 percent increase in homicide a year ago but an 80 percent increase the year before that i think things in. st louis are way up if i | Actually yes and in St. Louis actually the situation has grown quite worrisome If I recall you had. about a 15 percent increase in homicide a year ago but an 80 percent increase the year before that I think things in St Louis are way up if I | actually yes, and in st. louis actually the situation has grown quite worrisome. if i recall, you had about a 15 percent increase in homicide a year ago, but an 80 percent increase the year before that. i think things in st. louis are way up if i recall. |
But what's happened in many of the smaller cities, particularly in Middle America, is they have become fertile ground for a lot of the gangs who have been, sort of pushed out of the coasts - away from the coasts - by heavy anti-gang initiatives, looking for new places to land, new turf to rule and new businesses to run... | but what's happened, in many of, the smaller cities particularly in middle america is, they have become fertile ground for. a lot of. the, gangs who have been sort of pushed. out of the coasts - away. from the coasts - by heavy anti-gang initiatives looking for new places to land, new. turf to rule and new businesses. ... | But what's. happened in many, of. the smaller cities particularly in Middle America is. they have become fertile ground for a lot of the gangs who have been sort of pushed out of the coasts - away from the coasts - by heavy anti-gang initiatives looking for new places to land new turf to rule and new. businesses to run... | but what's happened in many of the smaller cities, particularly in middle america, is they have become fertile ground for a lot of the gangs who have been, sort of pushed out of the coasts - away from the coasts - by heavy anti-gang initiatives, looking for new places to land, new turf to rule and new businesses to run... |
So, the caller's quite right that part of the problem in Middle America is the gangs have seen - gangs are as mobile as people are. You know, if things aren't going well for you in your neighborhood lots of people pick up and move to another community hoping for another start. Well, that's what happens with gangs as we... | so the caller's quite; right that part of, the problem in middle america; is the gangs have seen, - gangs are as mobile as people are you know if things aren't going well for; you in your neighborhood lots of, people pick, up and move to another community hoping for another start well that's what happens with gangs as | So. the caller's quite right that part of the. problem in Middle America is the gangs have, seen - gangs are as mobile as people are You know if things aren't going well, for you, in your neighborhood lots of people, pick up and move to another community hoping for another start Well that's what, happens with gangs as | so, the caller's quite right that part of the problem in middle america is the gangs have seen - gangs are as mobile as people are. you know, if things aren't going well for you in your neighborhood lots of people pick up and move to another community hoping for another start. well, that's what happens with gangs as we... |
Hmm. Molly, thanks very much. Let's talk now with - this is Howard. Howard's calling us from New Orleans. | hmm, molly thanks very much let's talk now with - this is. howard howard's calling us from new | Hmm Molly. thanks very much Let's talk now with - this is Howard; Howard's calling us from New | hmm. molly, thanks very much. let's talk now with - this is howard. howard's calling us from new orleans. |
State Farm and the other insurance companies have said, you know, we're going to pay you 10 percent of your policy because we think it's only 10 percent wind. So the settlement will allow these people to come forward and say, you know, it's 20 percent wind. It's 30 percent wind. | state farm and the other; insurance companies. have said you know we're going to pay you 10 percent of your policy because we think it's only 10 percent wind so. the. settlement will allow these people to come forward. and say you know it's 20 percent wind it's 30 percent | State Farm and the other insurance companies have said you know we're going; to pay, you 10 percent of your policy because we. think it's. only 10 percent wind So, the settlement will allow these people to come forward and say you know it's 20 percent wind It's 30 percent | state farm and the other insurance companies have said, you know, we're going to pay you 10 percent of your policy because we think it's only 10 percent wind. so the settlement will allow these people to come forward and say, you know, it's 20 percent wind. it's 30 percent wind. |
Yes. I live in the New Orleans area and recently I sold my house, about four months ago. And you're talking about when crime gets into a white community and people get excited. Well, I was in a diverse area, and it seems like crime in a black community - you have the mother, father or an aunt saying he was a good boy, ... | yes i live in the new, orleans area and recently i. sold my, house about four, months ago and you're talking about when crime gets into a white community and people get excited well i, was. in a diverse area and it seems like crime in. a. black community. - you have, the mother father or an aunt; saying he was a good b... | Yes I live in the New Orleans area and, recently, I sold my house about four months ago And you're talking. about. when crime gets into a white community and. people get excited Well I was in a diverse area and it seems like crime in a black community - you have the mother father or. an aunt saying he was a good boy, h... | yes. i live in the new orleans area and recently i sold my house, about four months ago. and you're talking about when crime gets into a white community and people get excited. well, i was in a diverse area, and it seems like crime in a black community - you have the mother, father or an aunt saying he was a good boy, ... |
And we have a parish across from Lake Pontchartrain from us, St. Tammany. Jack Strain got called down for political correctness. And Jefferson Parish next to us had Sheriff Harry Lee. They both were called down by political correctness. | and we have a parish. across from lake pontchartrain from us st tammany jack strain got called down for political correctness and jefferson parish next to us had sheriff harry lee they both were called down by political | And we have a parish across from Lake Pontchartrain from us St Tammany. Jack Strain got called down for political, correctness And Jefferson Parish next to us had. Sheriff Harry, Lee, They both were called down by political | and we have a parish across from lake pontchartrain from us, st. tammany. jack strain got called down for political correctness. and jefferson parish next to us had sheriff harry lee. they both were called down by political correctness. |
Well, I'm going to say one thing, they don't have the thugs in those areas. And I'm going to protect my family. In fact, the house I sold three months ago, a thug hijacked a car right in front of the house I used to own. So I think this deal about political correctness, I'm willing to sacrifice some political correctne... | well i'm going to. say one thing they don't have, the thugs in those areas and i'm going to protect my family in fact the house i sold three months ago a, thug hijacked a car right in front of. the house i, used to own so i think this deal about political correctness i'm willing to sacrifice some political correctness ... | Well I'm going to say one thing they don't have, the thugs in those areas And I'm going to protect my family In fact the house I sold three months ago a thug hijacked a car right in front of the house I used to own So I think this deal about political correctness I'm willing to sacrifice; some. political correctness fo... | well, i'm going to say one thing, they don't have the thugs in those areas. and i'm going to protect my family. in fact, the house i sold three months ago, a thug hijacked a car right in front of the house i used to own. so i think this deal about political correctness, i'm willing to sacrifice some political correctne... |
Well, I really can't speak about the situation there, because I don't know too much about it, but let me just say something about the difference in white communities and black communities and rich and poor. | well i really can't speak about the situation there because i don't know too much about it but let me just say something about the difference in white communities and black communities and rich and | Well I really can't speak about the situation there because I don't know too, much about it but let me just say. something, about the difference in white communities and black communities and rich and | well, i really can't speak about the situation there, because i don't know too much about it, but let me just say something about the difference in white communities and black communities and rich and poor. |
One of the problems I see right now is there's been so much shift in resources away from hometown security to homeland security, because those people who are most effected by terrorism are wealthy and powerful. Those people most effected by ordinary street crime are poor and powerless. | one. of the problems i see right now is there's been so much shift in resources away from hometown security to homeland security because those people who are most effected by terrorism are wealthy and. powerful those people most effected by ordinary street crime are poor and | One of the problems, I see right now is there's been, so much shift in resources away from hometown security to homeland security because those people who are most effected by terrorism are wealthy and powerful Those people most; effected by ordinary street crime are poor, and | one of the problems i see right now is there's been so much shift in resources away from hometown security to homeland security, because those people who are most effected by terrorism are wealthy and powerful. those people most effected by ordinary street crime are poor and powerless. |
I mean, look at the numbers. Many more people are killed every year in ordinary street crimes in poor neighborhoods than were killed on 9/11. And I don't want to, you know, weigh one death against another, but it's quite telling that we can get all excited about and concerned about terrorism, but we don't have the same... | i mean look at the numbers many more people are. killed every year in ordinary street crimes in poor neighborhoods than were killed on 9/11. and i don't want to you know weigh one death against, another but it's quite telling that we can get all excited about and concerned about terrorism but we don't have the same kin... | I mean look at the numbers Many more people are killed every, year in ordinary street crimes in poor neighborhoods than were killed on 9/11. And I don't want. to you know weigh one death, against another but it's quite telling that we can get all excited; about and concerned about terrorism but we don't have the same k... | i mean, look at the numbers. many more people are killed every year in ordinary street crimes in poor neighborhoods than were killed on 9/11. and i don't want to, you know, weigh one death against another, but it's quite telling that we can get all excited about and concerned about terrorism, but we don't have the same... |
Well, I'm excited because it got into my neighborhood. And the fact that I'm excited because it wasn't safe for me to go out in the streets. I sold my house. | well. i'm. excited because it got into my neighborhood and the fact that i'm excited because it wasn't safe for me to go out in the streets i sold my | Well I'm excited because it got into my neighborhood And the fact that I'm; excited; because it. wasn't safe for me to go out in the streets I sold my | well, i'm excited because it got into my neighborhood. and the fact that i'm excited because it wasn't safe for me to go out in the streets. i sold my house. |
Yes, obviously the police department in New Orleans also, I think, suffered disproportionately, for any number of reasons, after Hurricane Katrina. | yes obviously the police department; in new orleans also i. think suffered disproportionately for any number of. reasons. after hurricane | Yes obviously, the police department in New Orleans also I think suffered disproportionately for any number of reasons. after, Hurricane | yes, obviously the police department in new orleans also, i think, suffered disproportionately, for any number of reasons, after hurricane katrina. |
But I'm going to tell you that thugs sitting on the corner with nothing to do, kids with nothing to do. In New Orleans, there's a heck of a lot of work, obviously, after Katrina. There's neighborhoods where these kids are still sitting around and they could be working, and they're not working. | but i'm going to tell. you that thugs sitting on the corner with nothing to do kids with nothing to do in new orleans there's a heck of a lot of work obviously after katrina. there's neighborhoods where these kids are still; sitting around and they could. be working and they're not | But I'm going to tell you that thugs sitting, on the corner with nothing to do kids with nothing to do In New Orleans there's a heck of a lot, of work. obviously after Katrina There's neighborhoods where these kids are still; sitting around and they could be working and they're not | but i'm going to tell you that thugs sitting on the corner with nothing to do, kids with nothing to do. in new orleans, there's a heck of a lot of work, obviously, after katrina. there's neighborhoods where these kids are still sitting around and they could be working, and they're not working. |
Howard, thanks very much. | howard thanks very | Howard thanks very | howard, thanks very much. |
Idleness is a problem in many, many communities. And let me just say something about the future. You know, this increase we just had in homicide and violence should be a wake-up call. Looking ahead, and I don't want to be an alarmist here, but we do have reason for concern. We have - the population of at-risk youth is ... | idleness is a problem in many many communities and let me just say something about the future you know this increase we just had; in homicide and violence should be a wake-up call looking ahead and i don't want to be an alarmist here; but we do have reason for concern we have - the. population of at-risk youth is conti... | Idleness is a problem in many many communities And let me just say something about the future. You know this increase we just had in homicide and violence should be a wake-up call Looking ahead and I don't want to be an alarmist here but we do have reason for concern We have - the population of at-risk youth is continu... | idleness is a problem in many, many communities. and let me just say something about the future. you know, this increase we just had in homicide and violence should be a wake-up call. looking ahead, and i don't want to be an alarmist here, but we do have reason for concern. we have - the population of at-risk youth is ... |
Combined with that is we've had these tremendous cuts in federal and local spending for cops and for programs. Unless we turn the clock back with our priorities and start reinvesting in kids and cops, the situation could get much worse. | combined with that is we've had these tremendous cuts in federal and local spending for cops and for programs unless, we turn the clock back with our priorities and start reinvesting in kids and cops the situation could get much | Combined with that is we've had these tremendous cuts in; federal and local spending, for cops and for programs Unless we turn, the clock back with, our priorities and start reinvesting in kids and cops the situation could get much | combined with that is we've had these tremendous cuts in federal and local spending for cops and for programs. unless we turn the clock back with our priorities and start reinvesting in kids and cops, the situation could get much worse. |
And to some degree, do those cutbacks reflect also some complacency? Well, we've seen the numbers come down all these years. | and, to some degree do those cutbacks reflect also, some complacency? well we've seen the, numbers come down all. these | And to some degree do those cutbacks reflect also some complacency? Well we've seen the numbers come down; all; these | and to some degree, do those cutbacks reflect also some complacency? well, we've seen the numbers come down all these years. |
Absolutely. We are complacent; we shift our priorities very quickly when we're not - when crime rates went down seven straight years, Americans started thinking crime isn't a problem any more. Let's worry about really important things like who Jennifer Aniston is going to marry. | absolutely we are complacent we, shift our priorities, very quickly when we're not - when. crime rates went down seven straight years americans started thinking crime isn't a problem any more let's worry about really important things, like who jennifer aniston is going to | Absolutely We are. complacent we shift our priorities very quickly when we're not - when, crime rates. went down seven straight years Americans started thinking crime isn't a problem any more, Let's worry about really important things like who Jennifer Aniston is going to | absolutely. we are complacent; we shift our priorities very quickly when we're not - when crime rates went down seven straight years, americans started thinking crime isn't a problem any more. let's worry about really important things like who jennifer aniston is going to marry. |
James Alan Fox, thanks very much for being with us today. We appreciate your time. | james alan fox thanks. very much for being with us today we appreciate your | James, Alan Fox thanks, very; much for being with us today We appreciate your | james alan fox, thanks very much for being with us today. we appreciate your time. |
My pleasure. | my | My | my pleasure. |
James Fox is a fellow at the Bureau of Justice Statistics and a professor of criminal justice at Northeastern University, and a columnist for The Boston Herald. He joins us today from studios at the Christian Science Monitor's offices in Boston, Massachusetts. When we come back, The Ambassadors. | james fox is a fellow. at the bureau of justice statistics and a professor of criminal justice at northeastern university and a columnist, for the boston herald he, joins. us today from studios at the christian science monitor's offices in boston massachusetts when we, come; back the | James Fox is. a fellow at the Bureau of Justice Statistics and a professor, of criminal justice at Northeastern University and a columnist for The Boston Herald, He joins us, today from, studios. at the Christian Science Monitor's offices in Boston Massachusetts When we, come back The | james fox is a fellow at the bureau of justice statistics and a professor of criminal justice at northeastern university, and a columnist for the boston herald. he joins us today from studios at the christian science monitor's offices in boston, massachusetts. when we come back, the ambassadors. |
Last month, more than a year after Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast, State Farm Insurance reached an agreement to settle or at least to reopen thousands of claims from people whose homes were damaged or destroyed in Mississippi. But the federal judge hearing the case hasn't approved the settlement. Before he does, ... | last month more than a year. after hurricane katrina hit the gulf coast state farm insurance reached an agreement to settle or at, least to reopen thousands of claims from people whose homes were damaged or destroyed in. mississippi but the federal judge hearing the case hasn't approved the settlement before he does he... | Last, month more than a year after Hurricane Katrina, hit the Gulf Coast State Farm Insurance reached an, agreement to settle or at least to reopen thousands of claims from, people whose homes were. damaged or destroyed in Mississippi But the. federal judge hearing the case hasn't approved the. settlement Before he doe... | last month, more than a year after hurricane katrina hit the gulf coast, state farm insurance reached an agreement to settle or at least to reopen thousands of claims from people whose homes were damaged or destroyed in mississippi. but the federal judge hearing the case hasn't approved the settlement. before he does, ... |
Hi, Lynn. Nice to be here. | hi lynn nice to be | Hi Lynn Nice to be | hi, lynn. nice to be here. |
Well, first things first. Can you sort of tell us what this is all about? | well first things. first can you sort of tell us what. this is all | Well first things first Can you sort of tell us what this is all | well, first things first. can you sort of tell us what this is all about? |
Well, Southern Mississippi, Mississippi by the coast got just clobbered in Katrina, and there are thousands of homes that were not only destroyed but they are slabs, that they actually call slab cases because all that's left are the slabs. | well southern mississippi mississippi by, the, coast got, just clobbered in katrina and, there are thousands of homes that were not only destroyed but they are slabs that they actually call slab cases because. all that's left are the | Well Southern Mississippi Mississippi by the coast got, just clobbered in Katrina and there are thousands of homes that were not only destroyed but they are slabs that they actually. call slab cases because all that's left are the | well, southern mississippi, mississippi by the coast got just clobbered in katrina, and there are thousands of homes that were not only destroyed but they are slabs, that they actually call slab cases because all that's left are the slabs. |
So the question those cases has become, what caused most of the damage? Was it water or was it wind? And the reason that's become critical is because insurance companies cover wind damage but historically they do not cover flood damage. So you know, the insurance companies generally said it's flood and people have said... | so. the question those cases, has. become what caused most of the damage? was it water or was it wind? and the reason that's become critical is because insurance companies cover wind damage; but historically they do not cover flood; damage so you know, the; insurance companies generally said it's flood and people, have... | So the question those cases has become what caused most of the. damage? Was it water or was it wind? And the reason that's become critical is because, insurance companies cover wind damage but historically they do not cover flood, damage So you know the, insurance companies generally, said it's flood and people have sa... | so the question those cases has become, what caused most of the damage? was it water or was it wind? and the reason that's become critical is because insurance companies cover wind damage but historically they do not cover flood damage. so you know, the insurance companies generally said it's flood and people have said... |
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It's an interesting thing. As Jonathan points out, we do have these two parts of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. However, what kind of bails us out here is case law, because the case law, for the most part, supports an individual's interpretation of religion, so long as it is a sincerely held, consistently practiced... | it's an interesting thing as jonathan points out we. do have these two parts of title vii of the civil rights act; however what, kind of bails us, out here is case law. because the case law for, the most part supports an individual's interpretation of religion so long as it is a sincerely held consistently practiced | It's an interesting thing As Jonathan points out, we do have these; two parts of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. However what kind of bails us out here is case law because the case law for, the most part supports an individual's interpretation of. religion so, long. as it; is; a sincerely held consistently, practice... | it's an interesting thing. as jonathan points out, we do have these two parts of title vii of the civil rights act. however, what kind of bails us out here is case law, because the case law, for the most part, supports an individual's interpretation of religion, so long as it is a sincerely held, consistently practiced... |
We've seen, Mr. Segal, of late, employees take to task their employers--General Motors being the most recent of the large corporations, where a court in late December of '05 maintained that General Motors' position was not discriminatory, because it did not allow for any religious, what is called affinity groups. Talk ... | we've seen mr segal of late employees take to task their employers--general motors being the most recent of the large corporations where a court in late december of '05 maintained that, general motors' position was not discriminatory because it did. not allow for any religious what is, called affinity groups talk to us... | We've seen Mr Segal of late, employees take to. task their employers--General, Motors being the, most recent of the large corporations where; a court. in late December of '05 maintained that General Motors' position was not discriminatory because it did not allow for any religious what is called affinity groups Talk to... | we've seen, mr. segal, of late, employees take to task their employers--general motors being the most recent of the large corporations, where a court in late december of '05 maintained that general motors' position was not discriminatory, because it did not allow for any religious, what is called affinity groups. talk ... |
Just because an employee has sincerely-held religious beliefs does not necessarily mean that there are not restrictions which an employer can impose on the employee's exercise of them in the workplace. Even where a religious right exists, it has to balanced against the employer's interests to maintain a workplace. That... | just because an employee has sincerely-held religious beliefs does not necessarily, mean that there are not restrictions which an employer can impose on the. employee's exercise of them in the workplace even where a religious right exists it has to balanced against the employer's interests to, maintain a workplace that... | Just because an employee has sincerely-held, religious beliefs does not necessarily mean that there are not restrictions which an employer can impose on the employee's exercise of them in the workplace Even where a religious right exists it has to balanced against the, employer's interests to maintain a workplace. That... | just because an employee has sincerely-held religious beliefs does not necessarily mean that there are not restrictions which an employer can impose on the employee's exercise of them in the workplace. even where a religious right exists, it has to balanced against the employer's interests to maintain a workplace. that... |
The employer said we're going to allow affinity groups relative to orientation, to race, to national origin, but not religion. And certain individuals sued, alleging that was discrimination based on religious status. | the employer, said we're going to allow affinity groups relative, to orientation to race to national origin but not religion and certain, individuals sued alleging that was discrimination based. on religious | The employer said we're going; to allow affinity groups relative to orientation to race to national, origin but not religion And, certain individuals sued alleging. that was discrimination based on religious | the employer said we're going to allow affinity groups relative to orientation, to race, to national origin, but not religion. and certain individuals sued, alleging that was discrimination based on religious status. |
Let me ask this, Georgette Bennett, pick up on that point and also talk to me about how important individual managers, if you will, are, and HR departments are in moving this to some kind of conclusion that fits both sides. | let me ask this georgette bennett pick. up on that point and also talk to me about how important individual managers if you will are and hr departments are, in moving this to some kind of conclusion that fits both | Let, me ask this Georgette Bennett pick up on that point and also talk to me about how important individual managers if; you will are and HR departments, are in moving this to some. kind of conclusion. that, fits both | let me ask this, georgette bennett, pick up on that point and also talk to me about how important individual managers, if you will, are, and hr departments are in moving this to some kind of conclusion that fits both sides. |
Well, let me just pick up on one point with reference to Moranski, which is the General Motors case. Moranski is being appealed. There is often a situation where one has to do a balancing of interests. One of the situations that has certainly become the most troublesome all over the country is this issue of a Christian... | well let me just pick up on one point with, reference to moranski which, is the general motors case moranski is being, appealed there is often a situation where one has to do a. balancing of interests one of the situations that has certainly become the most troublesome all over the country is this issue of a christian ... | Well let me just pick up on one point with reference to Moranski which is the General Motors case Moranski, is. being appealed There, is often a situation where one has to do, a balancing. of interests One of the situations that has certainly become the most troublesome all over the country is. this issue of a Christia... | well, let me just pick up on one point with reference to moranski, which is the general motors case. moranski is being appealed. there is often a situation where one has to do a balancing of interests. one of the situations that has certainly become the most troublesome all over the country is this issue of a christian... |
In terms of the issue of accommodation and the importance of managers, they are very important. Very often, the accommodations are simple to do. They just take a little of bit creativity, a little bit of working with the employee to find out what will work, what won't. The prime legislation addressing this issue right ... | in. terms of the issue of accommodation and the importance of managers they are very, important. very often the, accommodations are simple to do they just take, a little of bit. creativity a little bit of working with the employee to find out what will work what won't the prime legislation addressing this issue right n... | In terms, of the issue of accommodation, and the, importance of managers they are very important Very, often the, accommodations are simple to do They just take. a little of bit creativity a little; bit of working with the employee to find out what will work what won't The prime legislation addressing this issue right ... | in terms of the issue of accommodation and the importance of managers, they are very important. very often, the accommodations are simple to do. they just take a little of bit creativity, a little bit of working with the employee to find out what will work, what won't. the prime legislation addressing this issue right ... |
Mr. Segal, let me ask you this: how much do you believe the growing clout and political influence of the religious right will ultimately play into how we see the workplace dole out religious expression to employees? | mr segal let me ask you, this: how much do; you believe the growing clout, and political influence of the, religious right will ultimately play into how we see the workplace dole out religious expression to | Mr Segal let me ask you this: how. much do you believe the growing clout and, political influence of the, religious right will. ultimately play into how we see the workplace dole out religious expression to | mr. segal, let me ask you this: how much do you believe the growing clout and political influence of the religious right will ultimately play into how we see the workplace dole out religious expression to employees? |
I think the short answer is that it is a political issue, and it will manifest itself in the workplace. I don't think employers can or should ignore the strongly held and sincerely sought religious views. But I think employers also need to understand that not everyone shares the same religious or other sensibilities. | i think, the short answer is that it is a political issue and it will manifest itself in the workplace i don't think, employers can or should ignore; the strongly held and sincerely. sought, religious views but i, think employers also need to understand that not everyone shares the same religious or other | I think the short answer is that it is a political issue and it will. manifest itself in the workplace I don't think employers can or should ignore the strongly. held and. sincerely sought religious views But I think employers also need to understand that not everyone shares the same, religious or, other | i think the short answer is that it is a political issue, and it will manifest itself in the workplace. i don't think employers can or should ignore the strongly held and sincerely sought religious views. but i think employers also need to understand that not everyone shares the same religious or other sensibilities. |
And sometimes, we hear a lot about, you know, red States and blue States. Well, if it only were so simple. You have plenty of red employees in blue States and blue employees in red States. So, they not only share states, but they share workplaces. | and, sometimes we. hear a lot about you; know red states and blue states well if it only were so simple you have plenty of red employees in. blue states and blue employees in red, states so they not only share. states, but they share | And sometimes we hear a lot about you know red States and. blue States Well if it only were so simple You have plenty of red employees; in blue States and blue employees in red States So they not. only share states but they; share | and sometimes, we hear a lot about, you know, red states and blue states. well, if it only were so simple. you have plenty of red employees in blue states and blue employees in red states. so, they not only share states, but they share workplaces. |
Georgette Bennet, let me ask you at the Tanenbaum Center, I'm wondering as you work with corporations, have you found these religious expressions often come in conflict with each other, and, therefore, put corporations sometimes in a catch-22? | georgette, bennet let me ask you at the tanenbaum, center i'm wondering as you work with corporations have you found these. religious expressions often come. in. conflict with each. other and therefore put corporations sometimes in a | Georgette Bennet let me. ask you at the. Tanenbaum Center I'm wondering as, you work with corporations have you found these religious expressions often come in conflict with each other and therefore, put corporations sometimes in a | georgette bennet, let me ask you at the tanenbaum center, i'm wondering as you work with corporations, have you found these religious expressions often come in conflict with each other, and, therefore, put corporations sometimes in a catch-22? |
Well, there are situations where they come in conflict, but I do want to make it clear that even though we have this, this surging of the influence, of the religious right, that is not the only thing that is driving the trend in terms of dealing with religious diversity. We have very powerful demographics driving this,... | well there are situations where they, come in conflict but i do want. to make it clear that even though we have this this surging of the influence of the religious right that is not the only, thing that is driving the trend in terms of dealing with religious. diversity we have very powerful demographics driving this no... | Well there are situations where they come in conflict but I do want to make it clear that. even though we have this this surging of the influence of the religious right, that is not the only thing that is driving the trend in terms of dealing with, religious diversity We have. very powerful demographics. driving this n... | well, there are situations where they come in conflict, but i do want to make it clear that even though we have this, this surging of the influence, of the religious right, that is not the only thing that is driving the trend in terms of dealing with religious diversity. we have very powerful demographics driving this,... |
Mm-hmm. | mm-hmm. | ||
And this has really been the neglected dimension of diversity. And an awful lot of foolish mistakes have been made by companies, because they weren't tuned in to the religious dimension of marketing. For example, a jeans manufacturer, who had a designer that thought Arabic writing was really lovely, so he took verses f... | and this has really been the neglected dimension of. diversity and an awful lot of foolish mistakes have been made by companies because they weren't tuned in to, the religious dimension of marketing for example a jeans manufacturer who had a, designer that thought arabic writing was. really. lovely so he took verses fr... | And this has really been the neglected dimension of diversity And an awful lot of foolish mistakes have been made by companies because they weren't tuned, in to the. religious dimension of marketing For example a jeans manufacturer who had a designer that thought Arabic, writing. was really lovely so he took. verses fr... | and this has really been the neglected dimension of diversity. and an awful lot of foolish mistakes have been made by companies, because they weren't tuned in to the religious dimension of marketing. for example, a jeans manufacturer, who had a designer that thought arabic writing was really lovely, so he took verses f... |
So, Mr. Segal, with about a minute to go, we should note as Georgette Bennet suggests there, this is not an issue that is going away any time soon. And not only does it affect the employees and employer, but really affects the bottom line in company growth across the board. | so mr segal with about a minute to go we should note as georgette bennet suggests there this is not an issue that is going, away any time soon and not, only does it affect the employees, and employer but, really affects. the bottom line in company growth across the | So Mr. Segal with about; a, minute to go we should note as Georgette Bennet suggests there this is, not an issue that is going away any time soon And not, only does it affect the employees and employer but really affects the. bottom line in company growth across the | so, mr. segal, with about a minute to go, we should note as georgette bennet suggests there, this is not an issue that is going away any time soon. and not only does it affect the employees and employer, but really affects the bottom line in company growth across the board. |
Absolutely. And for me, the key often is, if I'm a manager, this is complicated, this isn't an on and off switch, this is a balance. If HR can create a reporting mechanism by which employees and managers bring to human resource functions concerns, that HR, in a dispassionate way, can sort of objectively balance the som... | absolutely and. for me the key often is if i'm a manager this is complicated this isn't an on and off switch this is a balance if. hr can create a reporting mechanism by which employees, and managers bring to, human resource functions concerns, that hr in a dispassionate way can sort of objectively balance the sometime... | Absolutely And. for me; the key often is if I'm a manager this is complicated this isn't an on and off switch this is a; balance If HR can create a reporting mechanism by which employees and managers bring to. human resource functions concerns that HR in a dispassionate way can sort of objectively balance the sometimes... | absolutely. and for me, the key often is, if i'm a manager, this is complicated, this isn't an on and off switch, this is a balance. if hr can create a reporting mechanism by which employees and managers bring to human resource functions concerns, that hr, in a dispassionate way, can sort of objectively balance the som... |
All right. Jonathan Segal is a management attorney with the Pennsylvania Law Firm WolfBlock, and vice chair of its Employment Service Group. Georgette Bennet is the President of the Tanenbaum Center for Inter-religious Understanding in New York. I thank you both. | all right jonathan segal is a management attorney with the pennsylvania law firm. wolfblock and. vice chair of its employment service group georgette bennet is the president of the tanenbaum center. for. inter-religious understanding in. new york i thank you | All right Jonathan Segal is, a management attorney with the Pennsylvania Law Firm WolfBlock and vice chair of its Employment Service Group Georgette Bennet is, the President of the Tanenbaum Center for Inter-religious Understanding in New York I thank. you | all right. jonathan segal is a management attorney with the pennsylvania law firm wolfblock, and vice chair of its employment service group. georgette bennet is the president of the tanenbaum center for inter-religious understanding in new york. i thank you both. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank | thank you. |
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