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925ac46ea210-2 | development, has led us to the place where we now realized this was possible, it's like finding out the facts of life. The facts of life are that there could be a girl next door......and now [audience member: "who's an alien"]...Who's an alien. Of course! What other kind of girl next door could it be [audience laughter... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Gnostic+Astronaut |
925ac46ea210-3 | exotic abductions, and then the last four or five years there are more and more persistent stories of, uh, sexual relations, pregnancies, this kind of thing. Well, this obviously means that, you know, we're growing up, we're getting older [audience laughter], the pressure is on to come to terms with how this thing is g... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Gnostic+Astronaut |
925ac46ea210-4 | [audience member: that's the story man!]
Question: Uh...sort of, psilocybin glossolalia....that's, that's not any words that are in any cultures right, but that has meaning for you [Terence: "Yes"]...Have you ever heard of, or have you ever, communicated with any other person in this language.
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Q: And both of... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Gnostic+Astronaut |
925ac46ea210-5 | Q: Do you think you're a better speaker in English since having these experiences?
Q: Is there more fluidity that there are, you know, you have developed, you know, in your face, in your expression, and..?
Q: You see that, the first thing that comes to mind when you talk about the creative power of sound, err...or la... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Gnostic+Astronaut |
925ac46ea210-6 | Q: Well, the other thing is, uh...the other thing is to, uh...is, uh, Milton Erickson, who, just with his voice, uh, does all sorts of things with people that are, you know totally [other audience member]: he can't even speak their language; he can do it to people that he doesn't even understand them and they don't und... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Gnostic+Astronaut |
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ba65049cc819-1 | Q: I've been picking up a, a sort of an urgency of, uh, 'we gotta do it and do it now' type of thing as far as shamanism. I- I couldn't quite understand why I can't sit back in my stupidity and continue this, you know, practice. Is it because we're coming to, uh, man can destroy the world?
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0d59bdc75e43-1 | Terence McKenna: I don't think of myself as a teacher, primarily or at all. I think of myself as a researcher, who, because of the unorthodox nature of the research has to submit to this kind of situation for peer review. That's what this is. This is peer review of my rap, not teaching in any sense of the word. So, bef... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-2 | The area that we're working in at the fringe of science, at the frontier of psychology is too chaotic and disorganized to be called a science at this point. We're in the Baconian phase of it where you merely collect facts, catalogue facts and wait for emergent patterns to, uh, be visible. And, uh, this is what I've don... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-3 | Ok, so that's enough about method. The, um, as I understand it, the- the matter around which this counsel is spun is the journey beyond history and the notion in that implicit is that there is an end to history. So, what I want to talk about this morning, and it's the most difficult lecture that I give because it is- t... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-4 | What happened to me was a series of, um, channelings, although I hate that word [audience laughter, Terence laughs]. It's so obnoxious -- I prefer maybe the word 'psychosis'. [laughter] Anyway, a series of self-amplifying revelations springing from an interior source that appeared from my best judgement not to be me, r... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-5 | Goddess” wherein a series of continuing revelation he grains, gains great insight, uh, into early Celtic and Goidelic poetic alphabets and encryption methods. The object of my uh experience was I Ching and I noticed, discovered, uh, a number of things about the I Ching which lead me to the conclusion that what we posse... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-6 | How many of you are well familiar with the I Ching? Good. The rest of you, good luck. [Laughter]. | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-7 | The King Wen sequence is the oldest uh, if you give up Atlantis, Lemuria, etcetera, the oldest ordered human abstraction. It is uhh, we find fragments of it on shoulder bones that are four to five thousand years old, so it’s a human generated abstraction that has been preserved through the millennia. Now the question i... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-8 | change in it. In those 8 cases a second rule has been applied which is if turning the hexagram upside down causes no change, then all lines change. You meet the first exception in the first two hexagrams. Clearly, when you invert the created six solid lines, you obtain the created again. Therefore, all lines change, an... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-9 | second, six lines change. As you move from the second to the third – I forget how many it is – four I believe, and so on. So that you can make a linear graph of the first order of difference as you move through the King Wen sequence and I rushed out and bought graph paper and did this, and looked at it. And it’s a saw ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-10 | So when you graph the first order of difference in this way, an anomaly just jumps out at you. This is clearly not a random, uh, stochastic process that you’re graphing. If it were a stochastic process you would expect the possible values which are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, to occur in more or less, uhh, similar proportions. H... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-11 | some curious, uh, thing going on with the number 5, knowing that Timaeus as people are coming in and sitting down for dinner, Plato turns to Timaeus and he says “The one generates the two, and the two the three, but where oh where is the fourth my dear Timaeus.” And this the first four numbers seem to lie in a much m... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-12 | or congruence at any other point. Only at the beginning and the end, and only I then noticed, if the hexagrams were paired across from each other in such a way that they always added to 64. In other words, 64 is across from 64, that’s the exception. 63 is across from one, 62 is across from 2, 63 is across, and so forth... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-13 | And umm, so I looked at that for a long long time, and then I saw that what I had done, that though there were parall- these congruencies at the beginning and the end, there were also approaches to parellism – parallelism at 6 points in this figure, rather evenly spaced. And I realized then that what I had done if I ha... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-14 | could this thing possibly be for? And I experimented with, uh, I said okay, this thing I have built in accordance with the principal of hierarchy construction, which is completely expressed at every point in Chinese history, and is therefore be assumed to antedate Chinese history and be prehistoric. This hierarchical p... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-15 | laid those two, over the 6, generating everything from a common point of origin. So then I said okay, now I have everything that is in a hexagram, except the hexagramatic wholeness, but it is embodied by the thing as a gestalt as a holonomic entity. So I laid a big one over the 6 little ones and the two medium sized on... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-16 | jungle. You have to picture a man in a thatch house on stilts, with the amazon flowing by, the Indians, the drugs, everything raging outside, and me with my slowly deteriorating pad of graph paper just drawing these lines, hours and hours a day, and looking at them and finally realizing convincing myself that it did in... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-17 | Fortunately for you I am going to skip over the mathematical details of how this was accomplished, but I assure you that it was accomplished and to me it was, it was like a series of revelations. I didn’t even care about the I Ching. And the notion that out of myself I could extract the techniques to collapse this wave... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-18 | In other words, what I had generated up to this point was a wave unscaled against the world. And the teaching voice said “now we will show you how to scale this against the world” If, remember that there are 384 yao in the complete sequence. 384, is a number that has not be well regarded by calendar makers, its 19 days... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-19 | ordering that are inimical to Chinese thinking. I will now using the same periodicities apply the thing to time and see if I get astrological correlations at higher levels. So I took the 384 days and I multiplied it times 64, that’s the obvious uhh multiplicon. And you get 67 years 104.25 days, now if we think of that ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-20 | earliest observation of sun spots occurs in China, and is a naked eye observation from around 12 A.D. So obviously and we don’t know whether there was part of a tradition of observing these things or not. So then I was very pleased with that, well that’s interesting. So what happens if you take 67 years 104.25 days and... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-21 | . And then the voice said “now multiply that not by 64”, the previous multiplicand used, but by 6 the number of lines in a hexagram. When you do this you get 25,800 years, within 1% of the value accepted for the processional great year, in which the zodiacal signs move around, uh , the earth in a twenty-six, roughly tw... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-22 | Well, you know, great thrills for the person who discovered it. But so far all we have is a Neolithic calendar, constructed out of the I Ching. The notions that then began to be put forth were, that the ancient Chinese had assimilated this notion through their early development of what are called stilling of the heart ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-23 | As you approach the last 3 positions the higher level in the hierarchy is given a value of 0 and it ceases to contribute its valuation to the lower levels. So you get a sudden drop in the in the mathematical value of the wave. And these things, for a long time I called them passages and I called them necks and I called... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-24 | and mythical civilizations and uh so forth. But what this notion was suggesting was that matter, I don’t know how far back you care to go, but the something is in the process of becoming and that this process of becoming is not gradual but proceeds in a series of telescoping leaps into density of connectedness and that... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-25 | You no longer now have free atoms winging around in the void. You have uh, the complete cornucopia of molecular structure that we’re familiar with. Physical chemistry I’m talking about, life has not yet appeared. But then further levels of order, further inclusions of novelty into the becomingness of being, and you beg... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-26 | [30:00] | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-27 | Suddenly, 50,000 years ago you arrive at the threshold of self-reflecting consciousness. Instantly, you have thermonuclear weapons, parallel processing in computer, super-conducting colliding waves and all of the accoutrements of modern uh, modernity. This is a continuous process that has been going on since the moment... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-28 | Bermuda triangle that are 50,000 years old but how man emerged almost instantly out of the background of a planet covered by forests and populated by animals. Something happened. I mean it IS the thumbprint of God, it DOES push you almost to the notion of a deus ex machine intervention in the course of nature. Uhm.. We... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-29 | ability to epigenetically code information through writing; To no longer depend simply on the genetic machinery to carry information. I see this whole process I am describing as the career of information. It is information that is loose on this planet. When people say DNA they mean information. DNA is the vehicle of th... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-30 | Dividing 4,306 years by 64 you see the need for 67-year epoch. The next short epoch, and this occupied me for a long long time trying to figure out where it began. And then finally it hit me where it began. It began about 8:30 in the morning on August the 6th 1945 over the Japanese city of Hiroshima. And at that moment... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-31 | And uh, and so this explains to me the chaos at the end of history, which is what we are living through, and the mushroom has said you know, many times, “no big deal”. This is what it’s like when a species prepares to depart for the stars. There is nothing wrong, nothing wrong with H-Bombs and super colliding. This is ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-32 | we have no choice and it’s not a question of who wants it and who doesn’t, any more than death is open to that kind of fiddling. And in fact, death is the reflection in the macrocosm of every individual experience of the wave running down to zero into the ultimate novelty, which you can call a zero or you can call the ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-33 | fractal, which is a circle. I mean think of a segment of a circle. If you blow it up, it looks just like it, and then take a piece of it and blow it up – TAPE GOES BLANK FOR UNDETERMINED TIME – | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-34 | There are given themes, and this is what the hexagrams are about. This was the genius of the Chinese to realize that time has elements. The orthodox uh, or, let me put it this way. Western science had to go through a whole conceptual reformulation to realize that space is not simply where you put things, that’s how spa... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-35 | Now how does this work? I always use this rather idiotic example but it amuses me. Its that if you find yourself in Hadrian’s Hamurger Joint having a burger, there is a direct causal relationship between your doing that and the campaign of the roman emperor Hadrian; You are in fact passing through the Hadrian analogic ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-36 | So uh, another way of thinking about this notion that we are adumbrations of larger historical epochs is the aphorism “Rome falls 9 times an hour”. This is the idea- and it does! I mean I always notice it. Its.. its just there. We are very state bounded in our self-observation and we only tend to value what is relevant... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-37 | since 1945, since the dawn moment over Hiroshima is that the entire history of the universe is being recapitulated uhh. Now it has many cycle levels of cyclic expression. On one level the first land animals have yet to appear. We are truly in the inchoate darkness. On the level of the 4,306-year cycle, we are deep in t... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-38 | places like that in the early 90’s. We will have a, a, uh, a feminist revival which will be slightly longheaded because it will make those same mistakes that those gothic people made. We will not even reach the threshold of the industrial revolution until about 23.., two-zero-zero-three. | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-39 | So you see the notion of us sitting around making sense of things is quite preposterous. I mean, we are still waiting for Newton, let alone for Maxwell and Einstein. We are not-prehistory except on the highest level. Uhm, so this intensification will occur. Now uh, what is it leading to? This is the part that, you know... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-40 | This knitting together that is emanating from the human brain is accelerating at such a rate that we are rapidly going to become unrecognizable to ourselves. [49:35] The- The end point which I have come to feel is correct is the endpoint 67 years 104.5 days after the Hiroshima blast, and that would be dawn of the 16th ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-41 | And uh, we were talking last night about how um, how the uh, my, my little story about what happened to the Mayans, to the Maya. And Peter pretty much agreed was around 970 and probably at Copan, which was the Alexandria of the Mayan world. Its where the mathematics and this and these things were you know, brought to t... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-42 | I think it was because they figured it out. They saw what was coming, and one you have figured it out the curious thing about this notion I’m propounding is that it carries no obligation. It is a way of making you free by admitting you are more deterministically bound than you ever dreamed, you know. You HAD to go into... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-43 | We mentioned last night the saying in the I Ching – if this sacrifice is cor- the person who correctly understands this sacrifice can hold the universe in the palm of their hand like a spinning marble. 54:46 This is absolutely true. It’s a statement of physics. It is not a metaphor, and analogy or anything else. It is ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-44 | Another metaphor for this is concrescence, this spinning marble is uh, the holy grail, or the philosophers stone. The philosophers stone is an object which is made out of mind. It has, [it’s called the] one gloss on it was it was called the sophic hydrolith. The uhh, the water thought stone. It is something which has t... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-45 | They say when you create a funny explanation of almost everything, you have to be careful that you don’t unexplain a whole bunch of things, and I don’t think this unexplains too much because it is uhm, it is not an extension of a current paradigm. In other words it is not physics, it says nothing about particle physics... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-46 | What I was able to do with this I-Ching wave and what I offer as the uh proof or at least the uhm the place where pressure should be put on the theory if we want to falsify it is uh- We wrote a computer program which very rapidly sorts through the wave on many levels, and will draw the graph of novelty for any point in... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-47 | There are a couple of people here who have counselled with me one on one, where we’ve actually looked at their life and then on into the future. It goes right on into the future to 2012, and of course 2012 is just my choice after a lot of reflection I chose that as the apocalyptic zero date. The program is set up so ea... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-48 | 1:01:30s – 2:05:15 is peer review questions and dialogue.
Self-maintaining, over quite a long period of time until then its overcome and it is in this period that I mentioned this morning that all of these things happen. Now let me demonstrate some of the commands within the program. These are the position numbers of ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-49 | (Female Peer) – “And you programmed all this?”
Terence – Yes that’s just a chore to enter a huge bunch of historical data. I used the uh, London – Tape cuts off.
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works of art, political acytivity, migrations, religions, artistic motifs, all that stuff.
Kay, what have we got. Okay, if minus 540 was the resto... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-50 | Although rubbing 0 might be more interesting. Okay and again the default date, and what I want to show you now is uhm, the waves version of the 20th century. Essentially, let’s just start with uh, well lets enter the Hiroshime date which is the 5th day of the 8th month of the 1945. And let’s look at this situation on t... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-51 | The bomb is uh, right there. The top of the pimple is early January 1967, and that is where if you’ll recall what was going on at the time, that’s where the concatenation of the struggle of the opposites reached its most intense point. That’s where LSD was a mass phenomenon, when the hippie phenomenon was in the quinte... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-52 | Male Peer – sort of the opposite to the summer of love.
Terence – Right, although these things uh, certainly represented chaos forces each in the society in which they were happening. Now, the my reading of it is is that at 2012 the wave disappears, the reason the graph is shown as ascending rapidly into entropy is be... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-53 | Now let’s see, you see this line here at 228 is uh, 16-7, the 16th of July 1985 is right there. So we are in this small period here coming down off this peak, I can get it up in more detail, let’s see, change the date of interest, no. Yes, change the date of interest to the present, what is today? The 14th. The 14th da... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-54 | Well that period before the election was long, it was more than a year in length, uh.
Yes, like, remember how I said we were moving through, that we had just moved through the period of the dark ages and the barbarian invasions when learning died out in Europe and they thought that the circumference of a circle was tw... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-55 | So you know it’s not doing sleight of hand, if you didn’t have a big 11th then this is wrong for you. Well its lunar so it tends to keep track of that kind of thing. Now, is a deep decent in to novelty. Now we’re moving along this thing. We are in this trough right here, and I might say that because I have assumed the ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-56 | [Peer] The history you’ll have stashed in there will be northern … history
[Terence] Oh yeah, although so much of the southern hemisphere is ocean, and so recently colonized that there is an absence of historical uh.. It’s the blank end of the wave you see. It’s the blank…
But we’ve no record, we can only work with t... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-57 | If we put, if we enter José’s date as the end date and then look at another date. Oh okay, uhmm.. Now I think that requires a cue ... here. Okay now it asks zero date, we’re going to enter José’s date, 16th day, the 8th month 1-9-8-7.
Now what date should we look at to test José’s theories. The bomb. I think the bomb ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-58 | Okay, there it is. It’s this thing here. D-157. Until uh, early November 1947, now my guess would be that’s an election day. 6-11-47, wouldn’t someone have been inaugurated in January ’48.
[Peer] Elected in ‘48, Inaugurated in January ‘49
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[Terence] Oh I see so it’s not an election date. It’s something, by ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-59 | [Laughter] about surviving the timewave.
The continue function pushes it up one shingle, these things are called. Pushes it up on shingle. We’re looking for the trough, I hope we didn’t miss it. There it is, okay now by José’s applying mine to his there’s the most, the moment of greatest creative advance, concentrated... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-60 | Anyway, I think that’s enough of that…It’s 3:00. I’ll briefly entertain questions, you, I’m sure now I hope get more of the jist of some of what was said this morning. Because I think, the program really makes it accessible to people. And you can spend hours cruising these hills and valleys and dipping into the thing, ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-61 | Okay well, I guess what I’ll talk about is uhh, uhh…. Just trains of thought that I see present in the world, that I think will eventually be seen to flow together and to provide facets of this question “What is the nature of the transformation and what are the factors that go into it?” I mean obviously all fronts of h... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-62 | You know William Blake said there is only one moment in all eternity, and Satan’s Watch-Fiends search through all eternity which is the way into God’s Creation, but they can never find it, it is, the secret of the moment is well kept. Uhm..
These fields, or these endeavors I’m going to called Psychedelics, Cybernetics... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-63 | The cybernetic thing is viewed as uh, invasive, and masculine and technological, but I think that’s only because we’re seeing it in its most raw emergent phase, we’re actually seeing adding machines changed into these cybernetic devices. All the computers in the world are digital analyzers. We have yet to have an analy... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-64 | And people who spend hours and hours working on computers admit that this happens, and there’s a meshing and you’re part of the circuitry. I think what holds this back from becoming any even more noticeable phenomenon is just our willingness to materialize these cybernetics objects as furniture. But the day is coming y... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-65 | [Peer] That’s where it is now!
[Terence] You’re right! The key is to actualize this thing you know.. William Blake said “To see what eternity in a grain of sand, and to put it in there if need be in order for that to happen.” So that is cybernetics.. The transformation of cybernetics into something really exciting I t... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-66 | This is why I think the shamanic uh, strain of the new age mentality is the probably the most enduring, because there is something to be learned from primitive so called primitive pre-literate people who are living in the dream time, who are living in the imagination, and never saw any need for technological constructs... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-67 | Possibly although it’s not really a psychedelic, it is a synthetic for sure. What I’m more interested in, and I think that Rupert Sheldrake’s ideas open a way to understand the difference is plant hallucinogens which have existed in living systems for millions, in some cases hundreds of millions of years, and have been... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-68 | not interested in a massive disequilibrating intrusion into your brain chemistry... you want something which is almost like what is present but which gives you a massive shift in cognitive apperception without any shift in the perception of how your body is operating. You know, you don’t want it to cause muscle tension... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-69 | is experiencing it. Perhaps there is a lifeform, long resident on the Earth and so different from us the main problem is one of recognition. | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-70 | I mean I vacillate between whether the mushroom is you know, whether we really can split off portions of our psyche so completely that we cannot recognize them as parts of ourselves and then they can approach us to teach and torment us. Or whether that’s an unnecessarily breast beating attitude and that it would be muc... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-71 | is inevitable for every species which passes through that narrow neck, because knowledge is used and applied. I mean there may be Zen like cultures that find out these things and turn and move away from them. Perhaps that’s what the Maya were about, but pastoral and romantic as the vision of the Maya turning away from ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-72 | have to uh, recognize and conserve, and the psychedelics do that. The psychedelics are to my mind, although people have actually argued this with me, although it seemed really incontrovertible to me, that they are deconditioning agents, that they make you question what Marxist Mormon, whatever you are, if you take psyc... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-73 | which try to freeze the historical process. It’s almost as though we are continuously calcifying and yet we must not let that happen. I think it was Ludwig Von Bertlanffy who said “Human beings are not machines, but in every situation given their own will they will behave like machines, falling to routines and just cea... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-74 | So I think that the psychedelic thing is very important. I’m sorry to see its … clouded it’s a murky picture. I don’t see, I think people should do more of it, and reflect and that there should be much less missionary work. That the goal is not to get as many people stoned as possible. The goal is to make sure that eve... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-75 | Okay, cybernetics, psychedelics, space is the other one. And I see all of these things as just completely one thing, and I, as I said this morning, I think the difference between José and I, one difference is that he is interested in creating a planetary consciousness, out of the surrender of the ego, of individuals to... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-76 | And uh until this en- what we as individuals can do, is help that process by not participating of the projections of anxiety that these various factions are pushing, that arise out of their frustration with their inability to get a handle on things. I don’t want them to run things, Wall street or the communist party or... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-77 | I think that this thing that has broken about nuclear winter is very interesting. But uh, capitalism is very interested in making money. A decimated earth is not good real estate. And I think that the nuclear winter issue is the beginning of the end of the nuclear uh, log jam, that because the soviet academy of science... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-78 | These may be preposterous notions. The polite approach that is usually taken is to say well “everybody has a bit of the piece. The Mayans had a bit of the piece, the Buddhists they know something, those Sufis they’re pretty sharp.” The mushroom suggested that nobody has a piece of the action. That it’s all wrong, that ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-79 | So the real revolution is to come, I think, in language and the way in which psychedelics and feminism and cybernetics all come together is that we each need to carry out a very basic analysis of what we think about language and what we think it is and what we think it does. For instance, I’ve noticed and uhm, this may... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-80 | Ralph and I have even toyed with the notion of holding weekends where we would insist that every rationally apprehendable utterance be followed by an utterance which was not rationally apprehendable. The non-rationally apprehendable utterance would uh, anchor you in the emotional gestalt of the moment. And that would b... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-81 | [Terence] So we need to learn to be able to create these linguistic constructs, which are not meaning-tied but which communicate. One of the most interesting things about psilocybin is that on high doses, a synesthesia takes place, where, when you articulate in this emotional glossolalia you actually can condense objec... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-82 | And I think what’s happening with the monitoring of brain states- Ralph Abraham who was here this morning is the director of the visual mathematics project at Santa Cruz. Glossolalia, language, drugs, cybernetics, all of these things are the means to transforming the human self-image. It’s almost impossible to imagine ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-83 | The fourth quadrant of the mandala, and then I will open it up for questions, which I hope there are many, is feminism, and I feel very trepidatious, wading into this, but never the less, I really feel in some ways it is the most important of all of these, because it is uh, going to work the change that is going to go ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-84 | And uhm, psychedelics I count as a feminizing force, because they introduce you to the unconscious. Cybernetics I count as a feminizing force because it hardwires that same unconsciousness and raises it into inaccessibility. No longer are these things the theoretical constructs of psychologists, they become, you know, ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
0d59bdc75e43-85 | So I sort of give this as a background on what was said this morning, because I, I wanted to convey the one thing I have to convey which is uniquely mine which is this strange wave, and that’s mine. That its difficult to understand and its importance is open to debate. It may be trivial in the extreme. This afternoon, ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Invisible+Landscape+%28Peer+Review%29 |
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a04416f550f3-1 | I guess the place to start is sort of with looking at the notion that, uh, the dawning paradigm of post-modern consciousness seems to be the growing awareness that we don’t know what is happening at all. That all of the models whose implications have been worked out over the past 500 years or so have come to a place wh... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Rites+Of+Spring |
a04416f550f3-2 | And while there are consoling perceptions that arise out of this search through all this other extended human knowledge, there haven’t yet emerged certain answers about what is going on. This is why several people last night referred to how weird the time is, how hopeful we are with so little reason, uh, on the surface... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Rites+Of+Spring |
a04416f550f3-3 | And, uh, this morning I think we want to talk about uh, plants and how they relate to the planet, but before we do that I want to paint a picture for you of a, of a mandala which then I will discuss later in other meetings. But my notion of, of what the post modern person's mandalic projection on to the world should be... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+Rites+Of+Spring |
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