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CMV: Men and Women are not equal and they shouldn't be.
This might be a fairly unpopular opinion and I might seem to be like a critter from stone age but I believe that the two are not equal. I believe that men and women are different and couldn't be compared to each other. Comparing them would be like comparing apple... | >The question of equality is about things like equal access to jobs, equal access to respect, power, opportunity - to be evaluated on merit rather then prejudice and so on. It's not about "being the same", it's about having access that is equal using equal criteria.
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That I have to agree with. For hundreds of years ... | How does the majority of the population, who controls child rearing in the domestic sphere as well as most primary education, not manage to inspire women to crack 20% of Congress? And why does no other country in the world crack 40%? It’s impossible to believe the lack of female proclivity is not a major factor. | 86xvor | CMV: Men and Women are not equal and they shouldn't be. | This might be a fairly unpopular opinion and I might seem to be like a critter from stone age but I believe that the two are not equal. I believe that men and women are different and couldn't be compared to each other. Comparing them would be like comparing apples and oranges.
Saying that they are equal would be like ... | 1,521,943,828 | The_Almighty_Bob | dw8p0d4 | dw8o8ef | -1 | -2 |
CMV: We are obliged to debate those who are arguing in bad faith because either way, we lose.
I have lost debates against Holocaust deniers, anti-vaxxers and creationists. They win by using the following dodgy arguments:
* Holocaust deniers:
* History is written by the winners, how can you trust historians?
* W... | > So if I debate them, they find ways to poison the well and make me lose. If I don't debate them, they will portray me as a coward who refuses to debate because I know that my arguments will be destroyed by facts and logic. Either way, they will win.
Who decides that/when you've lost? And do outsiders (e.g. an audien... | I never said that "winning" doesn't matter. I said that you have a skewed perspective on what "winning" is. "Winning" is convincing other people of their views. It isn't bragging to other people who already agreed with them about how awesome they are. You seem to care way, way, *way* too much about what they think of y... | b3y1mg | CMV: We are obliged to debate those who are arguing in bad faith because either way, we lose. | I have lost debates against Holocaust deniers, anti-vaxxers and creationists. They win by using the following dodgy arguments:
* Holocaust deniers:
* History is written by the winners, how can you trust historians?
* What about all the lies other governments have made? Why should we believe them when they tell u... | 1,553,213,141 | [deleted] | ej30xbu | ej30vye | 6 | 2 |
CMV: Men and Women are not equal and they shouldn't be.
This might be a fairly unpopular opinion and I might seem to be like a critter from stone age but I believe that the two are not equal. I believe that men and women are different and couldn't be compared to each other. Comparing them would be like comparing apple... | >In the name of feminism trying to bring the women at par with men is completely unreasonable. Both of them have their own roles to play in a family and the society. Historically, women used to look after the family and kids while men used to go out to earn bread and toast. Women's work in no way was inferior to that o... | One way to look at it is that men and women aren't the same, they obviously aren't indistinguishable from each other. There are differences but that doesn't equate to inferiority or cognitive differences. And that goes both ways- women are just as capable as men at working or intellectual pursuits and men are just as c... | 86xvor | CMV: Men and Women are not equal and they shouldn't be. | This might be a fairly unpopular opinion and I might seem to be like a critter from stone age but I believe that the two are not equal. I believe that men and women are different and couldn't be compared to each other. Comparing them would be like comparing apples and oranges.
Saying that they are equal would be like ... | 1,521,943,828 | The_Almighty_Bob | dw9fxvn | dw904xg | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Monogamy Is Narcissistic
Setting this one up in a questionnaire format works for me:
1) Do you want someone who’s always gonna be there for you, and wants you for you? Yes.
2) Do you want your partner to do what they want to do, more than what you want them to do? Yes.
3) Are you perfect for your partn... | But isn't loyalty included in the definition of monogamy? I learned monogamy as a \*forever\* thing, most likely from being associated with marriage through the church, with the obviously heavy & explicit intention of loyalty/exclusivity. But I can see the difference in present-oriented monogamy, and this expectant ... | I mean I agree that sexual exclusivity or really in any way trying to control what another man does in their own time when it doesn't directly affect you is incredibly controlling but I just don't get how "narcissistic" comes into play here?
Why would someone need to have an overinflated sense of self-importance and s... | 9f9o88 | CMV: Monogamy Is Narcissistic |
Setting this one up in a questionnaire format works for me:
1) Do you want someone who’s always gonna be there for you, and wants you for you? Yes.
2) Do you want your partner to do what they want to do, more than what you want them to do? Yes.
3) Are you perfect for your partner? No.
4) So other people are... | 1,536,772,390 | murphy_man09 | e5uz50o | e5uuctb | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution defines a citizen, then states that all citizens have equal rights under the law. This means that all "age" laws are unconstitutional.
Here's the actual text of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution:
> All persons born or naturalized in the United State... | I think there's some nuance in asking the question of whether the age laws "treat people differently". If you have to be 18 to vote, every citizen is treated the same. They can't vote when they're younger than 18, and then when they turn 18, they can. That's how it applies to everyone. You're just looking at different ... | This depends heavily on the definition of due process. Does a blanket statement by a legislature, which is supported by a court, constitute due process? I think so.
These laws are in place to protect the youth - like you said, a 3 year old driving is a terrible plan. Likewise, society and government have decided that... | e2ghau | CMV: The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution defines a citizen, then states that all citizens have equal rights under the law. This means that all "age" laws are unconstitutional. | Here's the actual text of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution:
> All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or i... | 1,574,863,676 | TonyWrocks | f8vjhu4 | f8vbs91 | 1 | 0 |
CMV: In the absence of a bike path, bikers should be allowed to ride on the sidewalk
I say this as someone who rides a bike to work every day and who lives in a city where you can and will get fined for ridding on the sidewalk. I can't speak for the rest of the world, but where I live adult bikers are required by law ... | People on the sidewalk have an expectation that there will only be people at running or jogging speed around them at any given time. They will be by and large oblivious to their surroundings and have no thought to checking both ways before walking out in front of a cyclist. The risk of a cyclist hitting a pedestrian on... | This basically comes down to are the streets you bike on a low enough speed limit that the bikes would not reasonably slow down traffic <30mph or are they >30mph because in Utah where I live most roads run 40-45 if its a main road but on the side roads using the road over the sidewalk is more pragmatic because they are... | 6qb87v | CMV: In the absence of a bike path, bikers should be allowed to ride on the sidewalk | I say this as someone who rides a bike to work every day and who lives in a city where you can and will get fined for ridding on the sidewalk. I can't speak for the rest of the world, but where I live adult bikers are required by law to ride in the street about 1 meter from the curb, on the right side of the street and... | 1,501,338,448 | randomAnonymousThing | dkw1y0i | dkvz9ct | 9 | 1 |
CMV: We shouldn't censor hate speech.
There are certain things that aren't protected under freedom of speech, those being things like incitement of violence, immediate threats, yelling fire in a crowded theater, etc. I'm not talking about those things. Slander and stuff like that aren't ok, and to my knowledge, aren't... | Nazism is a special case. It always will be. White Supremacy is an ideology and movement that promotes violence and hate among just being bigotted and racist.
In order to be hate speech it has to meet that threshold of being an incitement to violence, especially slanderous, or otherwise harmful. White Supremacists an... | Your logic is based in viewing humans through the objective lens, reality as a place made up of objects. It doesn't include the subjective lens, or any other for that matter. Humans nature is far more complex than that, and we have the capacity for much darker intentions. We cannot boil down motivations for all people... | muvrf4 | CMV: We shouldn't censor hate speech. | There are certain things that aren't protected under freedom of speech, those being things like incitement of violence, immediate threats, yelling fire in a crowded theater, etc. I'm not talking about those things. Slander and stuff like that aren't ok, and to my knowledge, aren't legal. It should stay that way.
I'm t... | 1,618,940,153 | Butterboi_Oooska | gva88cs | gv9g97s | 2 | -1 |
CMV: We are obliged to debate those who are arguing in bad faith because either way, we lose.
I have lost debates against Holocaust deniers, anti-vaxxers and creationists. They win by using the following dodgy arguments:
* Holocaust deniers:
* History is written by the winners, how can you trust historians?
* W... | You know some of them might actually be, how should I put it, well: *right*. If you can't defeat their valid arguments come up with better arguments. Anyways, let's see what's what.
> History is written by the winners, how can you trust historians?
This, albeit true, isn't proof for any assertions about the holocaust... | You seem not to have counterarguments for their arguments, although you know their arguments well enough to state quite a number of them.
This is the problem. So you need to decide how to deal with it, and I think there are two options. You should either decide that you aren't capable of countering their arguments... | b3y1mg | CMV: We are obliged to debate those who are arguing in bad faith because either way, we lose. | I have lost debates against Holocaust deniers, anti-vaxxers and creationists. They win by using the following dodgy arguments:
* Holocaust deniers:
* History is written by the winners, how can you trust historians?
* What about all the lies other governments have made? Why should we believe them when they tell u... | 1,553,213,141 | [deleted] | ej487x5 | ej33bke | 1 | 0 |
CMV: There is NO excuse for not learning the language if you move to a new country or permanently.
I am currently living in my 3rd country and in all 3 countries I have encountered numerous people (who had made those countries their new homes) who couldn’t hold a conversation in the official, or at least one of the of... | I think you have stated you CMV too strongly when you say there is no excuse.
How about this excuse.
You are elderly and in the last stages of cancer. Your family member lives in a country with better health care. You will die more peacefully in the other country. The family member brings you to live with them for ... | And we expect people to learn the official language to help people who already live here. I work in a grocery store and yes I do get people who can't speak English coming in to get stuff and what is minute long customer exchange can quickly become a 10 minute long ordeal of trying to help them, this is while I have ot... | 86wqs0 | CMV: There is NO excuse for not learning the language if you move to a new country or permanently. | I am currently living in my 3rd country and in all 3 countries I have encountered numerous people (who had made those countries their new homes) who couldn’t hold a conversation in the official, or at least one of the official, languages. Some even after living there for over 20 years. I find this to be disrespectful a... | 1,521,932,539 | Duke_of_Jeroaldan | dw8furo | dw8f3w4 | 10 | 2 |
CMV: In the absence of a bike path, bikers should be allowed to ride on the sidewalk
I say this as someone who rides a bike to work every day and who lives in a city where you can and will get fined for ridding on the sidewalk. I can't speak for the rest of the world, but where I live adult bikers are required by law ... | In my experience as a daily biker in a non-biking friendly city, biking on the road is not only safer for pedestrians but also for bikers. Take into consideration:
* Sidewalks are often bumpier and more poorly maintained than streets
* Pedestrians are unpredictable and veer across the path without warning
* Cars pulli... | As a person who bikes to work nearly every day, I think it is a bad idea to bike on sidewalks. I will take up the full road and go my normal speed. If the car drivers don't like it, they should complain to the authorities and get a bike lane put in.
In one place on my route they created a bike lane on a very wide side... | 6qb87v | CMV: In the absence of a bike path, bikers should be allowed to ride on the sidewalk | I say this as someone who rides a bike to work every day and who lives in a city where you can and will get fined for ridding on the sidewalk. I can't speak for the rest of the world, but where I live adult bikers are required by law to ride in the street about 1 meter from the curb, on the right side of the street and... | 1,501,338,448 | randomAnonymousThing | dkw8ild | dkw77tj | 10 | 2 |
CMV: The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution defines a citizen, then states that all citizens have equal rights under the law. This means that all "age" laws are unconstitutional.
Here's the actual text of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution:
> All persons born or naturalized in the United State... | Kids are, for the most part, stupid. We like most of them anyways, but some age laws are there because adult people know better than kids. Sure, it can feel unfair that you're not allowed to drink until 21 in the US when Germans can do it at 14, and naturally people develop and mature at different pace. But come on, we... | > The only argument I have heard against this idea is related to “due process” and the government’s compelling state interest to not have 3 year olds driving around the city streets. I’m fine with that,
Wait how does this not undermine your whole point. You spend several paragraphs taking a very strong view that age ... | e2ghau | CMV: The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution defines a citizen, then states that all citizens have equal rights under the law. This means that all "age" laws are unconstitutional. | Here's the actual text of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution:
> All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or i... | 1,574,863,676 | TonyWrocks | f8vbjlf | f8vagjn | 3 | 1 |
CMV: We are obliged to debate those who are arguing in bad faith because either way, we lose.
I have lost debates against Holocaust deniers, anti-vaxxers and creationists. They win by using the following dodgy arguments:
* Holocaust deniers:
* History is written by the winners, how can you trust historians?
* W... | I think the difficulty is that you're not well versed enough to counterpoint.
Holocaust Deniers
* You don't have to believe the historians, you can ask the Jewish yourself, or you can go to the camps. If you think that's all a hoax look to the scientific data that was gathered in their unethical experiments, data th... | > So if I debate them, they find ways to poison the well and make me lose. If I don't debate them, they will portray me as a coward who refuses to debate because I know that my arguments will be destroyed by facts and logic. Either way, they will win.
Who decides that/when you've lost? And do outsiders (e.g. an audien... | b3y1mg | CMV: We are obliged to debate those who are arguing in bad faith because either way, we lose. | I have lost debates against Holocaust deniers, anti-vaxxers and creationists. They win by using the following dodgy arguments:
* Holocaust deniers:
* History is written by the winners, how can you trust historians?
* What about all the lies other governments have made? Why should we believe them when they tell u... | 1,553,213,141 | [deleted] | ej357x7 | ej30xbu | 17 | 6 |
CMV: We send people to jail for way to long in the US. The vast majority of first-time offenders should get no more than 20-30 years in jail.
I think the current justice system in the US is way too based on the "eye for an eye" philosophy. We love sending people away for extraordinary amounts of time. If you're young ... | Your assumptions about the length of time people spend in jail for single charges is way off. This is an old report but it suggests average time in jail for murder is only 10.5 years in the US. [link](https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/html/cjusew96/ts.cfm)
This is well under your 20 year mark. Someone else pointed out t... | I’d have to look up stats about that, personally, but I get what you’re saying. My only rebuttal rn (without research beyond the education I already have) would be a causation vs correlation thing. I can see how prisoners who know there’s no getting out wouldn’t GAF about being in trouble in prison. But also, the peopl... | mvd3bc | CMV: We send people to jail for way to long in the US. The vast majority of first-time offenders should get no more than 20-30 years in jail. | I think the current justice system in the US is way too based on the "eye for an eye" philosophy. We love sending people away for extraordinary amounts of time. If you're young and commit murder, for example, it's possible you could spend 70 years in jail. I was watching the Chauvin verdict yesterday, and I do not thin... | 1,619,002,430 | Blurry_Bigfoot | gvbk84p | gvbfnfs | 17 | 2 |
CMV: Life's purpose is work, not leisure
"The best way not to feel hopeless is to get up and do something. Don't wait for good things to happen to you. If you go out and make some good things happen, you will fill the world with hope. You will fill yourself with hope."
-Obama
When I was younger I longed to reach ... | They say if you do what you love, you'll never work a day in your life.
So let's say you don't *have* to work, and you have leisure time. That leisure time can be filled with doing thing you love that other people might consider work. For example, i love making knives. i did it for a living for two years. It never fel... | Corollary: people should work until they die, or commit euthanasia as soon as they retire, because their lives are now meaningless. Do you agree wit hthat?
Ultimately the notions of what constitutes hard work, well done, leisure, etc. are subjective. While I don't will deny you the right to your subjective opinion abo... | 9f8woc | CMV: Life's purpose is work, not leisure | "The best way not to feel hopeless is to get up and do something. Don't wait for good things to happen to you. If you go out and make some good things happen, you will fill the world with hope. You will fill yourself with hope."
-Obama
When I was younger I longed to reach retirement age where my time could be my o... | 1,536,767,172 | originalgrapeninja | e5uml2d | e5umkft | 2 | 1 |
CMV: We are obliged to debate those who are arguing in bad faith because either way, we lose.
I have lost debates against Holocaust deniers, anti-vaxxers and creationists. They win by using the following dodgy arguments:
* Holocaust deniers:
* History is written by the winners, how can you trust historians?
* W... | Don’t argue with people who argue in bad faith. They’ll call you a coward, sure, but they’d be wrong. Someone who won’t argue in good faith often argues in the way they do because they think the point of argumentation is to change other people’s mind through whatever means necessary, including fallacious reasoning and ... | A common feature of conspiracy theorist arguments is that they're easy to invoke but impossible to logically commit to. Your job is to hold them to what they say and point that out. Even someone saying you can't trust historians will want to appeal to history when they feel it suits them. Let a conspiracy theorist talk... | b3y1mg | CMV: We are obliged to debate those who are arguing in bad faith because either way, we lose. | I have lost debates against Holocaust deniers, anti-vaxxers and creationists. They win by using the following dodgy arguments:
* Holocaust deniers:
* History is written by the winners, how can you trust historians?
* What about all the lies other governments have made? Why should we believe them when they tell u... | 1,553,213,141 | [deleted] | ej355v5 | ej31c96 | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Trump's tweet is not obstruction of justice
I want to preface this by saying I am not a Trump supporter. What I do support, it truth. And the truth is, his tweet was not obstruction of justice.
Let's look at the tweet (with emphasis added):
>..This is a terrible situation and **Attorney General Jeff Sessions sh... | 1. Asking your subordinate to do something _even if they don't do it_ is obstruction. That is - it doesn't have to be successful to be considered obstruction.
2. Clearly it's not politically wise for him to end it himself. This is irreverent however, given 1.
3. Crying wolf isn't a defense.
4. "just a ran... | It could be that by saying Sessions name, Trump is masking his directives to people who can end the investigation.
You can't put it past the Trump administration, or any administration, to have codes and disguised language. You may say, "yeah, but that isn't coded at all". To which I'd agree, but the intent is to hav... | 94lub8 | CMV: Trump's tweet is not obstruction of justice | I want to preface this by saying I am not a Trump supporter. What I do support, it truth. And the truth is, his tweet was not obstruction of justice.
Let's look at the tweet (with emphasis added):
>..This is a terrible situation and **Attorney General Jeff Sessions should stop this Rigged Witch Hunt** ***right now***... | 1,533,411,796 | nmgreddit | e3lzvc0 | e3lz7iz | 7 | 3 |
CMV: Ad blockers are unnecessary and damaging to both creators and users.
When people use adblockers, they are hurting both consumers and producers. Adblockers take away the primary source of income for websites. Enough people use adblockers that this can seriously jeopardize the finances of a website. These sites inc... | https://www.networkworld.com/article/3021113/security/forbes-malware-ad-blocker-advertisements.html
Advertisements can be infected by malware. This can occur even on reputable websites, like Forbes. The only way to pre-emptively avoid malware is to shut it down, with an adblocker. | > they are hurting both consumers and producers
They don't hurt consumers, they vastly improve the user experience. If they hurt users, users wouldn't use them.
> Adblockers take away the primary source of income for websites. Enough people use adblockers that this can seriously jeopardize the finances of a website. ... | 94lebb | CMV: Ad blockers are unnecessary and damaging to both creators and users. | When people use adblockers, they are hurting both consumers and producers. Adblockers take away the primary source of income for websites. Enough people use adblockers that this can seriously jeopardize the finances of a website. These sites include wikis, local newspapers, and many other valuable online resources.
I... | 1,533,408,220 | Kadath12 | e3lv9bp | e3lusv3 | 8 | 6 |
CMV: We are obliged to debate those who are arguing in bad faith because either way, we lose.
I have lost debates against Holocaust deniers, anti-vaxxers and creationists. They win by using the following dodgy arguments:
* Holocaust deniers:
* History is written by the winners, how can you trust historians?
* W... | First, good that you don't "punch the nazi's" or any of the others you listed. Physically attacking anyone doesn't make you "look like the bad guy" it makes you the bad guy.
Second, There's the concept of "debating in good faith" none of the people you listed actually debate in good faith. once that's established you ... | You seem not to have counterarguments for their arguments, although you know their arguments well enough to state quite a number of them.
This is the problem. So you need to decide how to deal with it, and I think there are two options. You should either decide that you aren't capable of countering their arguments... | b3y1mg | CMV: We are obliged to debate those who are arguing in bad faith because either way, we lose. | I have lost debates against Holocaust deniers, anti-vaxxers and creationists. They win by using the following dodgy arguments:
* Holocaust deniers:
* History is written by the winners, how can you trust historians?
* What about all the lies other governments have made? Why should we believe them when they tell u... | 1,553,213,141 | [deleted] | ej3hypn | ej33bke | 3 | 0 |
CMV: Life's purpose is work, not leisure
"The best way not to feel hopeless is to get up and do something. Don't wait for good things to happen to you. If you go out and make some good things happen, you will fill the world with hope. You will fill yourself with hope."
-Obama
When I was younger I longed to reach ... | (The following assumes you don't subscribe to a definition of the meaning of life on religious grounds. If you do, I'd put forth a much different argument.)
The concept of "purpose" is a human construct that has no relevance outside of human affairs. The only things that can truly be said to have purpose are the actio... | They say if you do what you love, you'll never work a day in your life.
So let's say you don't *have* to work, and you have leisure time. That leisure time can be filled with doing thing you love that other people might consider work. For example, i love making knives. i did it for a living for two years. It never fel... | 9f8woc | CMV: Life's purpose is work, not leisure | "The best way not to feel hopeless is to get up and do something. Don't wait for good things to happen to you. If you go out and make some good things happen, you will fill the world with hope. You will fill yourself with hope."
-Obama
When I was younger I longed to reach retirement age where my time could be my o... | 1,536,767,172 | originalgrapeninja | e5uni9g | e5uml2d | 7 | 2 |
CMV : Mega corporations should not be held to moral or ethical standards that go beyond fiscal and legal transparency
So we all agree that any company or business big and small should be honest about their revenue, method of securing their resources, tax and credential transparency and so on, right ?
Any malpractice... | A company acting within its rights is not an entitlement to customers. People understand that a company, no matter its mission statement, is ultimately driven by profit. And that means the only way to influence a company's behavior is to alter their cost/benefit analysis. A company can't act without regard for its cust... | We as consumers and as people are allowed to have standards.
As such, it's reasonable for us to not give money to an organization that works against those standards. In addition, it's reasonable for us to try to convince powerful organizations to support our standards.
So I don't see why we wouldn't press corporation... | e2felu | CMV : Mega corporations should not be held to moral or ethical standards that go beyond fiscal and legal transparency | So we all agree that any company or business big and small should be honest about their revenue, method of securing their resources, tax and credential transparency and so on, right ?
Any malpractice or corruption there is to be dealt with by the government offices in charge of such things according to the laws of th... | 1,574,857,936 | ahtemsah | f8v5b32 | f8v4vba | 10 | 8 |
CMV: In TCG's, the solution to free cards that produce raw card advantage is to introduce "completely useless cards" as a deckbuilding requirement
**EDIT: Thanks for replying, everyone! I've given plenty of deltas to acknowledge how weak my view is. Hopefully I've gotten to everyone already! I apologize if I missed y... | Can you walk me through the logistics of how this mechanic would affect the production, sales, and distribution of a physical CCG?
As I understand it, the mechanic is meant to counterbalance powerful cards. Presumably, these cards would therefore be (1) desirable to open in a pack (2) desirable to have in your deck, a... | Oh, so that's what Pot of Greed does...
It's an interesting idea, but I still feel like just banning those few cards would be preferable to forcing "duds" into a person's deck.
Also, would this rule really negate the effects of overly powerful banned cards that give a player a huge advantage without giving them more ... | 9fa2fg | CMV: In TCG's, the solution to free cards that produce raw card advantage is to introduce "completely useless cards" as a deckbuilding requirement | **EDIT: Thanks for replying, everyone! I've given plenty of deltas to acknowledge how weak my view is. Hopefully I've gotten to everyone already! I apologize if I missed your comment.**
This is a rather weak view of mine. I only really began thinking about it after watching a video yesterday on Pot of Greed.
The sco... | 1,536,775,125 | Criminal_of_Thought | e5ux9z0 | e5uwq3j | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Conservatism is an inherently selfish and societally destructive political viewpoint.
Conservatives vote to cut taxes on the rich, to deny medical care to those who need it and cannot afford it (without going into insane debt), to deny the right to marry to some members of society, to deny a liveable minimum wage... | \> A great example would be climate change. Conservatives deny the scientific community’s findings that we are killing the planet with our oil and plastic consumption, yet they want to take no action to save the planet because fossil fuels are still very profitable for them, or that it’s inconvenient for them. Please c... | It's just a different philosophy on what is "right".
Liberals believe that if someone is hungry and can't afford food, you should give them a fish. And then give them another fish tomorrow, and the day after that and the day after that. You should continue to do that to the point where that individual then become re... | b3vr37 | CMV: Conservatism is an inherently selfish and societally destructive political viewpoint. | Conservatives vote to cut taxes on the rich, to deny medical care to those who need it and cannot afford it (without going into insane debt), to deny the right to marry to some members of society, to deny a liveable minimum wage, to strip protections from those who need them, and actively obstruct the process to make v... | 1,553,201,046 | DoubleBThomas | ej2l0jp | ej2ittw | 8 | -2 |
CMV: addiction is not a disease
Hello everyone,
This is my first post in here and i hope it goes well.
I don't believe addiction is a disease and honestly am very tired of hearing people say that it is. IMO a disease is something you do not choose to get. A young child does not chose to get cancer or leukemia, my g... | > a disease is something you do not choose to get
People don't take drugs because they want to get addicted, they take drugs becuase they want to get high. The addiction is an unwanted side effect. Since most drug users do not "choose" to get addicted, then their addiction must therefore be a disease. So you argument... | Definition of disease: "a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that produces specific signs or symptoms or that affects a specific location and is not simply a direct result of physical injury."
Addiction is a disease. Although there are several types of addiction caused by di... | 6qdg8p | CMV: addiction is not a disease | Hello everyone,
This is my first post in here and i hope it goes well.
I don't believe addiction is a disease and honestly am very tired of hearing people say that it is. IMO a disease is something you do not choose to get. A young child does not chose to get cancer or leukemia, my grandfather did not chose to have ... | 1,501,362,449 | Daworm420 | dkwf969 | dkwev3p | 12 | 4 |
CMV: There is literally no point in maintaining closed borders other than trying to feel special/nationalist
1. Immigrants don't take jobs, they compete with workers in that market for jobs, and if they can do it better/cheaper/more efficiently than everybody within your home country, why is that an issue? They simply... | >Culture. What even is this argument?
Different countries have different cultural identities, and they aren't always compatible. Open borders migration allows for a regressive culture/ideology to gain a foothold in an otherwise progressive nation.
For example, what happens when Sweden, a wealthy European state which ... | The argument against #1, is that the workers generally do so under the table. They don't pay taxes on that money, which for everyone else being taxed - they are using those things like roads to get to and from work - is paying for.
Which leads to #2. If they were *not* sending the money back home, then that untaxed mo... | 6xi3ey | CMV: There is literally no point in maintaining closed borders other than trying to feel special/nationalist | 1. Immigrants don't take jobs, they compete with workers in that market for jobs, and if they can do it better/cheaper/more efficiently than everybody within your home country, why is that an issue? They simply do it better than you. An argument against this is essentially saying "I can't do work as effectively as this... | 1,504,306,114 | adamd22 | dmg46tg | dmg2xiy | 11 | 8 |
CMV : Mega corporations should not be held to moral or ethical standards that go beyond fiscal and legal transparency
So we all agree that any company or business big and small should be honest about their revenue, method of securing their resources, tax and credential transparency and so on, right ?
Any malpractice... | In the Nike and Blizzard example people had an issue with those companies *taking* ethical positions. So they aren't good examples. People boycott because companies take ethical positions they don't agree with, not that they don't take any ethical position at all. | So you're saying its wholly unfair to expect companies to have external ethics?
Does that mean that, if I don't like a thing done by, let's say taco bell, I shouldn't be allowed to choose not to eat there?
I should be required to eat there? | e2felu | CMV : Mega corporations should not be held to moral or ethical standards that go beyond fiscal and legal transparency | So we all agree that any company or business big and small should be honest about their revenue, method of securing their resources, tax and credential transparency and so on, right ?
Any malpractice or corruption there is to be dealt with by the government offices in charge of such things according to the laws of th... | 1,574,857,936 | ahtemsah | f8v5ssu | f8v3vs9 | 8 | 6 |
CMV: Americans should be focusing on high school mental health issues rather than new firearm restrictions.
Many high schoolers are suffering from mental illness and never learn proper coping mechanisms. This, compounded with severe bullying has lead to record high suicide rates.
Far more kids are killed f... | As I understand it, the mentally ill are far more likely to be the victim of rather than the perpetrator of violent crime. I understand that a lot of the pro gun rhetoric centres on "this isn't a gun issue, it's a mental health issue", but I've never seen this claim backed up by research or case study.
On the other han... | > Many high schoolers are suffering from mental illness and never learn proper coping mechanisms. This, compounded with severe bullying has lead to record high suicide rates.
> Far more kids are killed from suicide each year than school shootings, and although roughly half of teen suicides are committed with firearms... | 86x0fe | CMV: Americans should be focusing on high school mental health issues rather than new firearm restrictions. | Many high schoolers are suffering from mental illness and never learn proper coping mechanisms. This, compounded with severe bullying has lead to record high suicide rates.
Far more kids are killed from suicide each year than school shootings, and although roughly half of teen suicides are committed with fi... | 1,521,935,173 | Zebulen15 | dw8j9gg | dw8h7x1 | 17 | 2 |
CMV: addiction is not a disease
Hello everyone,
This is my first post in here and i hope it goes well.
I don't believe addiction is a disease and honestly am very tired of hearing people say that it is. IMO a disease is something you do not choose to get. A young child does not chose to get cancer or leukemia, my g... | You've stated many times you do not believe that it's a disease. But as others have mentioned, it really doesn't matter what you [believe.](https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugs-brains-behavior-science-addiction/drugs-brain)
>Disease: A disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially o... | So if you voluntarily expose yourself to, lets say, smallpox, that makes it so that it isnt a disease? | 6qdg8p | CMV: addiction is not a disease | Hello everyone,
This is my first post in here and i hope it goes well.
I don't believe addiction is a disease and honestly am very tired of hearing people say that it is. IMO a disease is something you do not choose to get. A young child does not chose to get cancer or leukemia, my grandfather did not chose to have ... | 1,501,362,449 | Daworm420 | dkwramb | dkwerur | 2 | 1 |
CMV: I believe banning guns is a bad legislative action.
In light of recent events our nation has been stirred up in a frenzy over gun control, and rightly so. It is a discussion we need to have as a country, however too many people believe the answer is to ban assault rifles and rifles like it. I'm here to say that w... | While I agree with some of what you said, such as a cosmetic feature like pistol grip is a foolish factor to define a gun for a ban.
I agree that research is needed that can help to identify people that should not be in possession of a gun.
I disagree with your conclusion about not focusing on gun bans.
Gun bans do wo... | You are correct that it is ineffective to create firearm legislation based on the parts associated with those guns. I suspect, however, that what's actually going on in the minds of legislators is this:
Democrats - "Well, we can't get the Republicans to concede on anything meaningful, but we'll come out ahead if we can... | 86tu86 | CMV: I believe banning guns is a bad legislative action. | In light of recent events our nation has been stirred up in a frenzy over gun control, and rightly so. It is a discussion we need to have as a country, however too many people believe the answer is to ban assault rifles and rifles like it. I'm here to say that will not help, it is a bad legislative practice and that we... | 1,521,906,447 | skralogy | dw8btkh | dw8bh3a | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Society inherently favors the majority, and that isn’t a problem
Society is inherently biased towards the majority, but this isn’t a problem because we have certain obligations in place. Many groups, such as people with allergies, disabilities, and non-traditional gender identities require special treatment, but ... | Modern democracy is a more complex and fine-tuned tool than just tyranny of a majority. Although protecting the majority from minority fiat is step one of democracy (it prevents dictatorships), step two is *also* protecting the minorities from majority fiat (which prevent purges, both cultural or physical, including ev... | But none of these things are possible without the majority changing its view. Gay marriage, transgender rights, civil rights, no prayers in public schools, etc. None of these would have happened without pressure by a minority on the majority culture. | 9f7c4y | CMV: Society inherently favors the majority, and that isn’t a problem | Society is inherently biased towards the majority, but this isn’t a problem because we have certain obligations in place. Many groups, such as people with allergies, disabilities, and non-traditional gender identities require special treatment, but are very small. Society has a duty to accommodate them, but within prac... | 1,536,755,677 | GetRektRenekton | e5uakgu | e5u9q05 | 9 | 2 |
CMV: Conservatism is an inherently selfish and societally destructive political viewpoint.
Conservatives vote to cut taxes on the rich, to deny medical care to those who need it and cannot afford it (without going into insane debt), to deny the right to marry to some members of society, to deny a liveable minimum wage... | Your thinking is highly flawed, and likely due to your admittedly liberal bubble.
You say that conservatives vote to deny healthcare to the poor, that's incorrect. Conservatives simply believe that healthcare is not something government should be involved in. We agree that the system needs to be fixed, but more gover... | It's just a different philosophy on what is "right".
Liberals believe that if someone is hungry and can't afford food, you should give them a fish. And then give them another fish tomorrow, and the day after that and the day after that. You should continue to do that to the point where that individual then become re... | b3vr37 | CMV: Conservatism is an inherently selfish and societally destructive political viewpoint. | Conservatives vote to cut taxes on the rich, to deny medical care to those who need it and cannot afford it (without going into insane debt), to deny the right to marry to some members of society, to deny a liveable minimum wage, to strip protections from those who need them, and actively obstruct the process to make v... | 1,553,201,046 | DoubleBThomas | ej2jaj1 | ej2ittw | 0 | -2 |
CMV: In TCG's, the solution to free cards that produce raw card advantage is to introduce "completely useless cards" as a deckbuilding requirement
**EDIT: Thanks for replying, everyone! I've given plenty of deltas to acknowledge how weak my view is. Hopefully I've gotten to everyone already! I apologize if I missed y... | If I have a broken card plus a dud I have a chance of drawing one, both, or neither. This increases the random aspect of the game and reduces the impact of skill. And it's not super fun to lose because your opponent had a broken draw or win because they drew duds. And that's before getting into the issues of "what i... | Divination already has a cost associated with it. It costs one card and 3 mana to replace that card and draw a new one. If you've played magic then you'd know that something like divination already doesn't see much play due to its significant costs.
Your version would actually help fuel quite a few degenerate strategi... | 9fa2fg | CMV: In TCG's, the solution to free cards that produce raw card advantage is to introduce "completely useless cards" as a deckbuilding requirement | **EDIT: Thanks for replying, everyone! I've given plenty of deltas to acknowledge how weak my view is. Hopefully I've gotten to everyone already! I apologize if I missed your comment.**
This is a rather weak view of mine. I only really began thinking about it after watching a video yesterday on Pot of Greed.
The sco... | 1,536,775,125 | Criminal_of_Thought | e5ux8qh | e5uwzvz | 3 | 1 |
CMV: I don't understand why people are still talking about the recent tragedies in New Zealand, when people seem to stop talking about school shootings within the first few (3 or so) days.
Everybody is still continuing to speak about the recent tragedy in New Zealand, and yes it is very unfortunate this happened and n... | 1) These types of shootings are rare in New Zealand.
2) There is a political element to it. The shooter's actions were motivated by a white nationalist ideology, which has become more relevant in recent years. The shooter also made references to political figures like Donald Trump, which sparks further controversy.
3... | I mean there are a whole lot of other undercurrents along with it. The facebook livestream and the meme ridden manifesto all pile into what can be talked about. People, and news, are looking for a reason this happened and there is a lot of content out there that gives possible reasons. But part of the issue is that the... | b3w12v | CMV: I don't understand why people are still talking about the recent tragedies in New Zealand, when people seem to stop talking about school shootings within the first few (3 or so) days. | Everybody is still continuing to speak about the recent tragedy in New Zealand, and yes it is very unfortunate this happened and nobody should ever have to experience that, however, I do think it is a little odd people are still talking about it, meanwhile, when school shootings happen, people seem to stop talking abou... | 1,553,202,426 | _LumbeR | ej2kqq9 | ej2kq61 | 18 | 0 |
CMV: In most situations, you should just assume people's pronouns. If you assume wrong, and they get offended, then they're overly sensitive.
Some people make a big deal over not assuming anyone's gender. According to certain people, you're supposed to ask everyone for their pronouns shortly after meeting them. This i... | > Its a reasonable question if someone is presenting in a way which indicates that they might not simply be a straight cis person.
So, in other words, if you suspect a person might be transgender, you're going to ask them their pronouns, regardless of how they're presenting? Is that not just singling out transgender ... | This seems kind of strawman-y. It's not unheard of for people, including cis folks, to state their own pronouns when introducing themselves. And it's increasingly common in group introductions especially in certain circles to go around the group stating your name and pronouns. This is all just to normalize it so that n... | mv529h | CMV: In most situations, you should just assume people's pronouns. If you assume wrong, and they get offended, then they're overly sensitive. | Some people make a big deal over not assuming anyone's gender. According to certain people, you're supposed to ask everyone for their pronouns shortly after meeting them. This is dumb.
**Argument 1**
I think the motivation for this way of thinking is misplaced. People get upset at the idea of someone purposefully us... | 1,618,967,346 | hornygopher | gv9yocg | gv9wqq0 | 1,567 | 213 |
CMV: Killer whales should be more widely refered as Orcas, as they are neither whales nor aware enough to commit murder.
Killer Whales are actually dolphins, a separate parvorder that are not whales.
And more, adding "killer" to the name suggest they are the sea's bullies, when bottlenose dolphins are way ahead of or... | > Killer whales should be more widely refered as Orcas, as they are neither whales nor aware enough to commit murder.
Isn't it better to call the killer whales to raise the awareness among humans that they're dangerous? Also, it's probably better *for them* if humans keep their distance and don't annoy them too much. ... | So- I haven’t even heard the term ‘killer whale’ in years... where I am (near the world of these animals) it is pretty much exclusively ‘orca’- honestly this question caught me off guard.
Note: people here also say sea stars instead of ‘starfish’ and octopuses instead of octopi.... | a84wit | CMV: Killer whales should be more widely refered as Orcas, as they are neither whales nor aware enough to commit murder. | Killer Whales are actually dolphins, a separate parvorder that are not whales.
And more, adding "killer" to the name suggest they are the sea's bullies, when bottlenose dolphins are way ahead of orcas in that respect, because they are rapist assholes.
I'll change my mind if you can convince me that orcas generally ha... | 1,545,355,219 | RafeHaab | ec8ocln | ec87gj1 | 1 | 0 |
CMV: Mandela is just a Bin Laden from another era and socio-political climate
The fact that most people aren't aware that Nelson Mandela partook in terroristic acts which destroyed property and took lives shows that he was a living martyr for a political movement that, while it probably saved many lives by easing a tr... | Hmm, yes and no.
Absolutely we have too black and white a view of terrorism. Terrorists are non state actors who use the fear of violence to get their way. States use the fear of violence to get their way all the time, and often their tactics are as inhumane as the terrorists. The only difference is that we call terro... | > In the case of OBL we have a rich guy living in a country his family is running as a dictatorship trying to intentionally kill civilians in other countries to cause fear. This isn’t an act of warfare, it’s terrorism. This isn’t him reacting to aggression, it’s him being the aggressor.
This is fake news. America [kil... | a88h34 | CMV: Mandela is just a Bin Laden from another era and socio-political climate | The fact that most people aren't aware that Nelson Mandela partook in terroristic acts which destroyed property and took lives shows that he was a living martyr for a political movement that, while it probably saved many lives by easing a transition that could have otherwise been incredibly violent, still involved a gr... | 1,545,385,713 | imbalanxd | ec9iwra | ec8xp9p | 7 | 2 |
CMV: Ad blockers are unnecessary and damaging to both creators and users.
When people use adblockers, they are hurting both consumers and producers. Adblockers take away the primary source of income for websites. Enough people use adblockers that this can seriously jeopardize the finances of a website. These sites inc... | > Most people justify their use of adblockers by saying they want to avoid viruses/scams and/or intrusive/page-blocking/annoying ads
>If you are tech savvy enough to get an adblocker, you are probably tech savvy enough to understand what websites you should avoid. Plus you probably have an anti virus anyways.
Why avo... | >If you are tech savvy enough to get an adblocker, you are probably tech savvy enough to understand what websites you should avoid.
Here are some websites that have served malware-ridden ads at various points in the past: Forbes, New York Times, BBC, AOL, The Atlantic, Myspace, Facebook. And probably a lot of others. ... | 94lebb | CMV: Ad blockers are unnecessary and damaging to both creators and users. | When people use adblockers, they are hurting both consumers and producers. Adblockers take away the primary source of income for websites. Enough people use adblockers that this can seriously jeopardize the finances of a website. These sites include wikis, local newspapers, and many other valuable online resources.
I... | 1,533,408,220 | Kadath12 | e3lvjad | e3lvj86 | 4 | 1 |
CMV: The idea that your anxiety won’t chase away the right person is magical thinking and will make people miserable.
https://themighty.com/2018/05/anxiety-dating-finding-the-right-person/
I have anxiety— seen shrinks, on pills— and it’s cost me many a relationship and opportunity. It’s tempting to say it’s not me, ... | So you and I seem to have a lot in common. I have generalized anxiety. I also have a pretty awful romantic history in the sense that nearly every one of my serious relationships, all of these lasting for several years, were eventually ground down to dysfunction between my anxiety which sounds very similar to yours, and... | I have an anxiety disorder but my boyfriend of six years and I take a very different approach to handling it than what you've described. He supports me when I need it, but he also encourages me to do my best and be more than my anxiety, which I appreciate. On the other side, I lean on him when I need to, but I push mys... | a7orkx | CMV: The idea that your anxiety won’t chase away the right person is magical thinking and will make people miserable. | https://themighty.com/2018/05/anxiety-dating-finding-the-right-person/
I have anxiety— seen shrinks, on pills— and it’s cost me many a relationship and opportunity. It’s tempting to say it’s not me, it’s them, but it’s just not always true. My anxiety makes me a shitty friend and partner when it’s bad. Asking someone... | 1,545,242,194 | mechantmechant | ec698k8 | ec4m52i | 2 | 1 |
CMV: I believe banning guns is a bad legislative action.
In light of recent events our nation has been stirred up in a frenzy over gun control, and rightly so. It is a discussion we need to have as a country, however too many people believe the answer is to ban assault rifles and rifles like it. I'm here to say that w... | These are better metrics than how California has decided to measure guns. This is reasonable.
!delta | The whole problem with gun control in US, is that it became impossible to even adress. As Gun lobby holds an absolutely gigantic sway over US government, to the point the regular population accepted that more guns = less gun deaths. And are prepared to defend that claim to the death.
Gun control is simply not attract... | 86tu86 | CMV: I believe banning guns is a bad legislative action. | In light of recent events our nation has been stirred up in a frenzy over gun control, and rightly so. It is a discussion we need to have as a country, however too many people believe the answer is to ban assault rifles and rifles like it. I'm here to say that will not help, it is a bad legislative practice and that we... | 1,521,906,447 | skralogy | dw8byj5 | dw7ud9p | 0 | -1 |
CMV: UBI would be a very good system in america
First off I'd like to say I'll be discussing both how UBI should be implemented, what the benefits would be and why.
I believe the new UBI system should payout to american citizens through a household/independent and dependent system where everyone who files as an indep... | Why are low profit high margin busnesses undesirable? You may have an issue since Walmart specifically, but that does not mean all low profit businesses are bad, Costco also runs at a lot profit margin but payes it workers well. Also what about farming? That has giant investments and tiny profits but is fundamental in... | So, I think in general I tend to agree with your idea (with the exception of your approach to family leave which I think is a really terrible idea) but looking at some data, in your world an unemployed single parent of two would get a total of 20k in federal assistance. Right now they are getting around 28k as far as I... | 9f0374 | CMV: UBI would be a very good system in america | First off I'd like to say I'll be discussing both how UBI should be implemented, what the benefits would be and why.
I believe the new UBI system should payout to american citizens through a household/independent and dependent system where everyone who files as an independent gets 1k$/mth and for every dependent claim... | 1,536,690,500 | wearyguard | e5t06zq | e5sxsjv | 4 | 2 |
CMV: The death of Makiyah Bryant is a poor example of police brutality and systemic racism in the US.
The media is reporting the death of a black 16-year-old girl, Makiyah Bryant, by a white cop and associating it with the Chauvin verdict on the same day. The intent here is clear: to portray this as another incident o... | Less likely from a systemic point of view, but still would have been shot would be my answer. | Of course. A white person with a knife is as dangerous as a black person with a knife. | mvbr5s | CMV: The death of Makiyah Bryant is a poor example of police brutality and systemic racism in the US. | The media is reporting the death of a black 16-year-old girl, Makiyah Bryant, by a white cop and associating it with the Chauvin verdict on the same day. The intent here is clear: to portray this as another incident of police brutality and systemic racism.
However, shooting Makiyah Bryant was justified. She was lungin... | 1,618,996,381 | KoreanStudentDoctor | gvbgvkp | gvbfrbg | 123 | 11 |
CMV: not voting is better than wasting a vote on a terrible candidate
My view is that if there are 2 candidates, both of whom you dislike, and there are no other options, then you should not vote. Likewise, you DEFINITELY shouldn't vote for the candidate you assume will lose anyway.
If there were two choices for dinn... | >If there were two choices for dinner, toe fungus and rat liver, would you choose one or would you not eat?
The toe fungus provides no real nutritional benefit, but the rat liver, even if unappetizing, would be rich in vitamin A and so can provide nutrients. So this is not a false dichotomy.
Likewise, two bad candida... | I'm not sure which country you live in but there are many things you can and should do insted of just sitting at home such as spoiling your ballet.
Also I think researching the candidates is part of voting anyway so having not done that means you have already failed.
Edit:
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web... | e2ffk4 | CMV: not voting is better than wasting a vote on a terrible candidate | My view is that if there are 2 candidates, both of whom you dislike, and there are no other options, then you should not vote. Likewise, you DEFINITELY shouldn't vote for the candidate you assume will lose anyway.
If there were two choices for dinner, toe fungus and rat liver, would you choose one or would you not eat... | 1,574,858,094 | shannonthomas139 | f8v4c5s | f8v3wgv | 20 | 2 |
CMV: Life's purpose is work, not leisure
"The best way not to feel hopeless is to get up and do something. Don't wait for good things to happen to you. If you go out and make some good things happen, you will fill the world with hope. You will fill yourself with hope."
-Obama
When I was younger I longed to reach ... | I don't necessarily think the purpose of life is leisure. When someone is ready for retirement, it normally means that they stop working. But they don't have to. When you retire you can still be hard-working, just not for an employer. Build houses with Habitat for Humanity. Pursue hobbies. Join a club. All of these req... | >Leisure is no longer my goal, but simply a reward for hard work well done.
Can you clarify for me how a reward is not a goal? They seem almost synonymous. | 9f8woc | CMV: Life's purpose is work, not leisure | "The best way not to feel hopeless is to get up and do something. Don't wait for good things to happen to you. If you go out and make some good things happen, you will fill the world with hope. You will fill yourself with hope."
-Obama
When I was younger I longed to reach retirement age where my time could be my o... | 1,536,767,172 | originalgrapeninja | e5um9p4 | e5um0t7 | 8 | 2 |
CMV: There is no need to worry about STDs as a heterosexual male
I do not believe that there is any reason to worry about STDs anymore as a heterosexual male to the point of avoiding unprotected vaginal sex with strangers. Pretty much all of them are only minor inconveniences. HIV is reliably treatable now so as long ... | > Pretty much all of them are only minor inconveniences
Which many would rather not bother with, just for sex. **Let's say you're faced with having sex with someone who has HIV/AIDS.**
You could pay for a condom right now, feel less pleased from the sex. Or you could pay a cumulative sum of 4+ digits over many years ... | Does a baby count as an STD? That takes 18 years to get rid of at a minimum. I am more worried about that than any STD. | 6xq2c0 | CMV: There is no need to worry about STDs as a heterosexual male | I do not believe that there is any reason to worry about STDs anymore as a heterosexual male to the point of avoiding unprotected vaginal sex with strangers. Pretty much all of them are only minor inconveniences. HIV is reliably treatable now so as long as you treat it when you get it it won't be an issue. Most are tre... | 1,504,398,573 | ouijblvndrwoek | dmhnbcs | dmhn1k0 | 8 | 3 |
CMV: I believe banning guns is a bad legislative action.
In light of recent events our nation has been stirred up in a frenzy over gun control, and rightly so. It is a discussion we need to have as a country, however too many people believe the answer is to ban assault rifles and rifles like it. I'm here to say that w... | It's hard to argue against your claim that gun legislation would be bad but I think it's pretty easy to make an argument against your claim that it would be completely ineffective. I think fundamentally what you're showing is that it would be extremely hard, or impossible to make legislation that is completely or suff... | I’m not saying they aren’t good guns. There are just few defensive situations where another gun isn’t just as good or better.
Need to protect your house? Sawed off shotgun. 410 with small birdshot. Small kick, not deadly through walls, scares people and not likely to kill bystanders.
Need to carry weapon with you i... | 86tu86 | CMV: I believe banning guns is a bad legislative action. | In light of recent events our nation has been stirred up in a frenzy over gun control, and rightly so. It is a discussion we need to have as a country, however too many people believe the answer is to ban assault rifles and rifles like it. I'm here to say that will not help, it is a bad legislative practice and that we... | 1,521,906,447 | skralogy | dw81hzr | dw81bb9 | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Nihilism is as unhealthy as religion
So, I've been having an existential crisis recently. I used to believe in god and an afterlife, but after many church visits and my fundamentalist religious teacher, I've turned away, and in some way felt more free than I had before.
I've had one major existential crisis befo... | I think your mixing existentialism and nihilism together in some ways. Nihilism is the belief that there is no meaning in the universe and everything we do is pointless.
Existentialism is the belief that the universe contains no meaning, but that it is ones interior world that really matters. We create meaning in the ... | I think for me nihilism is healthier than religion because nihilism isn't the end of the discussion about meaning in the universe, it's the beginning. In my view, nihilism is more of a challenge than an actual belief system. The philosophy of existentialists seeks to find a solution to the problem of nihilism through l... | 6qbosj | CMV: Nihilism is as unhealthy as religion | So, I've been having an existential crisis recently. I used to believe in god and an afterlife, but after many church visits and my fundamentalist religious teacher, I've turned away, and in some way felt more free than I had before.
I've had one major existential crisis before, and it was cured with time, I'm having ... | 1,501,343,764 | Stelum | dkw1npl | dkw1f0v | 10 | 8 |
CMV: Morality is subjective
I will lay down the case through a few axioms. Change my mind by disproving the axiom, or demonstrating that I applied it incorrectly.
1) An individual can never be held morally accountable for trying to survive.
A lion is an obligate carnivore. This means it is necessary for a lion ... | > Thus, morality is different depending on your circumstances. Each individual you come across is bound by different moral rules as they have different conditions to survival from you.
That doesn't prevent it from being objective. It could theoretically still be the case that while morality depends on circumstances, t... | ​
> It is morally okay for a starving child to steal a loaf of bread to eat if he's starving.
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Is it morally okay for a starving child to steal a loaf of bread from another starving child?
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> It's not morally acceptable for a lion to kill a gazelle for fun, with no intentions of eating it.... | e2akkd | CMV: Morality is subjective | I will lay down the case through a few axioms. Change my mind by disproving the axiom, or demonstrating that I applied it incorrectly.
1) An individual can never be held morally accountable for trying to survive.
A lion is an obligate carnivore. This means it is necessary for a lion to kill prey for food. A lion... | 1,574,828,590 | WhatsTheHoldup | f8v0uhe | f8uv8rw | 1 | 0 |
CMV: addiction is not a disease
Hello everyone,
This is my first post in here and i hope it goes well.
I don't believe addiction is a disease and honestly am very tired of hearing people say that it is. IMO a disease is something you do not choose to get. A young child does not chose to get cancer or leukemia, my g... | We don't label addiction as a medical disorder to take the responsibility off of addicts to claim ownership over their own recovery process, but there are lot of reasons we *do* and should label it as a medical condition.
- We already believe that other types of addictions are medically significant, and to exclude no... | I feel like you are drawing an ineffective line between where free will begins and when you simply are something. Choice is a funny and weird thing because all choices can be explained away whether it be because of chemicals running through the brain or because of a host of other factors. Yet, if your body's cells deci... | 6qdg8p | CMV: addiction is not a disease | Hello everyone,
This is my first post in here and i hope it goes well.
I don't believe addiction is a disease and honestly am very tired of hearing people say that it is. IMO a disease is something you do not choose to get. A young child does not chose to get cancer or leukemia, my grandfather did not chose to have ... | 1,501,362,449 | Daworm420 | dkwjsjb | dkwfmu3 | 6 | 3 |
CMV:African Americans Deserve Compensation From the American Government
African Americans (AA) as well as other minorities have been treated as less than human for centuries in this country. Even when they were freed (emancipation proclamation) They were still treated as less then 2nd class citizens with the enactme... | How would one prove they were enslaved? If you just give compensation to all African Americans, that would include for example a Senegalese man who immigrated yesterday.
Edit: Who became a citizen yesterday. | So... all African Americans, or just those who can trace their ancestry to slaves?
Also, do we take deductions from this compensation for welfare programs that paid for the result of their being in poverty? | e2766s | CMV:African Americans Deserve Compensation From the American Government | African Americans (AA) as well as other minorities have been treated as less than human for centuries in this country. Even when they were freed (emancipation proclamation) They were still treated as less then 2nd class citizens with the enactment of Jim Crow laws. It has also come to light recently that the Lincoln ... | 1,574,812,848 | GrindingGearsSince88 | f8txwza | f8txl0e | 8 | 4 |
CMV: There is no such thing as "Android vs iPhone" - one is an operating system, the other is a series of smartphones
The commonly used phrase "Android vs iPhone" makes absolutely no sense - Android is an open-source **operating system** used on thousands of different devices, produced by hundreds of different compani... | And when technically-minded people are talking about phone operating systems and devices, they speak more precisely.
The average person is not technically minded and -- and this is important -- *does not care*.
This terminology is quick and makes sense to the majority of people hearing it. I understand the frustrati... | When people like myself make the iPhone versus Android argument, I'm talking about the whole package. And that might not make sense to you, but essentially I'm comparing:
iPhone, along with iOS and its capabilities and effectiveness
vs
All Android-running top-of-the-line models, along with Android and its capabi... | 9f8gwq | CMV: There is no such thing as "Android vs iPhone" - one is an operating system, the other is a series of smartphones | The commonly used phrase "Android vs iPhone" makes absolutely no sense - Android is an open-source **operating system** used on thousands of different devices, produced by hundreds of different companies ($80 phones to $1600 phones, $50 tablets to $700 tablets, televisions, cars, smartwatches, digital cameras, and even... | 1,536,764,153 | benjaneson | e5ukhmw | e5uj4ea | 25 | 4 |
CMV: I don't understand why people are still talking about the recent tragedies in New Zealand, when people seem to stop talking about school shootings within the first few (3 or so) days.
Everybody is still continuing to speak about the recent tragedy in New Zealand, and yes it is very unfortunate this happened and n... | People do not stop talking about school shootings after a few days. The Parkland shooting continued to be in the news regularly for weeks or even months. It was listed among the biggest news stories of 2018 on a variety of news outlets and articles came out in February remarking on it having been one year since the s... | I'd guess its because Islam in western society (I know new zealand isn't western but it use to be a British colony and the attack was carried out by an Australian I think) is already a controversial topic. This tragedy helps keep the argument fresh by giving a new focal point for the debate. I don't think I can flush t... | b3w12v | CMV: I don't understand why people are still talking about the recent tragedies in New Zealand, when people seem to stop talking about school shootings within the first few (3 or so) days. | Everybody is still continuing to speak about the recent tragedy in New Zealand, and yes it is very unfortunate this happened and nobody should ever have to experience that, however, I do think it is a little odd people are still talking about it, meanwhile, when school shootings happen, people seem to stop talking abou... | 1,553,202,426 | _LumbeR | ej2ksh2 | ej2kijm | 16 | 1 |
CMV: a lab-created diamond is unromantic and not a substitute for real diamond rings
I understand why so many take issue with the diamond industry. I would not want a diamond myself because of all the suffering involved in obtaining them.
What I don't agree with is this lab-created diamond circlejerk that no one is ... | The value of a diamond, for most people, doesn't come from the fact that it was dug up. It comes from the fact it is beautiful, from the fact that their loved one chose it for them, that their loved one sacrificed for it, and that their loved one wants to use it as a symbol of their commitment (and the value beaten int... |
>The romantic aspect of a stone in a ring is that it comes from the earth. It is not romantic to get a fake thing created by a scientist in a lab.
Lab created diamonds are created with things that come from the earth the same as real diamonds, it just happens much quicker. They're not fake, or at least I can't think ... | 94jfne | CMV: a lab-created diamond is unromantic and not a substitute for real diamond rings | I understand why so many take issue with the diamond industry. I would not want a diamond myself because of all the suffering involved in obtaining them.
What I don't agree with is this lab-created diamond circlejerk that no one is allowed to say anything against. How is a fake stone in any way romantic? The romantic... | 1,533,392,261 | HeathenArmy | e3lfz6a | e3lf943 | 18 | 7 |
CMV: Skin tones on emoji are stupid and should be removed
First of all adding skin tones on emoji makes it more difficult to send a simple emoji. You have an extra burden to decide which skin tone to send. I don't have to evaluate my skin tone for sending an emoji, and I don't want to be subjected to judgement based o... | On iPhone, you don’t have to select a skin tone every time you want to send an emoji, it simply remembers the last one you picked, and you have to hold to press to change the emoji.
In this vein, your problem with skins tones on emoji might be a user interface one? Most people enjoy being able to send hand emojis with... | I personally prefer classic emoticons myself :) but right now we are living in an era where equal representation is a massive part of our zeitgeist. Additionally, the classic yellow skin of an emoji is still generally based on whites, which feels exclusionary to minorities.
But for a more practical reason, I think em... | 86r9tt | CMV: Skin tones on emoji are stupid and should be removed | First of all adding skin tones on emoji makes it more difficult to send a simple emoji. You have an extra burden to decide which skin tone to send. I don't have to evaluate my skin tone for sending an emoji, and I don't want to be subjected to judgement based on the color of emoji I use.
I feel emojis are just a way t... | 1,521,871,336 | IG_Monkey | dw7dj50 | dw7an2m | 37 | 20 |
CMV: There needs to be taxes on high sugar/fat products
I see this everyday in my school, kids choosing extremely high sugar/fat content snacks rather than eating the healthy food our school provides because it's more convenient. I understand it would be hard to implement this in school but definitely possible in stor... | I'm seeing a lot of "people can eat badly if they want to" arguments, and I think we're missing an important point. Food is already very expensive, and if you can't afford the "healthy" option the last thing you want is a more expensive grocery bill. Rather than taxing food that's bad for you, the goal should be to mak... | Correct. But by putting a sin tax on it you are reducing access to it at all times. Additionally the most unhealthy food is eaten by the poor because it is what they can afford. Making it more expensive does not reduce the prices of other foods in any way and so only hurts them.
Edit: Also you do not address the prim... | 86ulq2 | CMV: There needs to be taxes on high sugar/fat products | I see this everyday in my school, kids choosing extremely high sugar/fat content snacks rather than eating the healthy food our school provides because it's more convenient. I understand it would be hard to implement this in school but definitely possible in stores. We have sin taxes on alcohol and cigarettes because t... | 1,521,913,293 | PsychedwithTrouble | dw8hq4n | dw826y7 | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Skin tones on emoji are stupid and should be removed
First of all adding skin tones on emoji makes it more difficult to send a simple emoji. You have an extra burden to decide which skin tone to send. I don't have to evaluate my skin tone for sending an emoji, and I don't want to be subjected to judgement based o... | Emoji are a part of Unicode. The Unicode Consortium's [mission statement](https://www.unicode.org/press/) includes "The Unicode Consortium enables people around the world to use computers in any language."
If your goal is to allow communication across languages, across countries, across cultures, then you had better m... | Personally I think for the people emojis the bright yellow looks awkward and ugly because the emoji is trying to look realstic to an extent but it bright yellow. So to make it more realistic they want to make it look more skin coloured. However there are many shades of skin so they added those.
The only reason it hap... | 86r9tt | CMV: Skin tones on emoji are stupid and should be removed | First of all adding skin tones on emoji makes it more difficult to send a simple emoji. You have an extra burden to decide which skin tone to send. I don't have to evaluate my skin tone for sending an emoji, and I don't want to be subjected to judgement based on the color of emoji I use.
I feel emojis are just a way t... | 1,521,871,336 | IG_Monkey | dw7jy21 | dw7dxeu | 12 | 2 |
CMV: a lab-created diamond is unromantic and not a substitute for real diamond rings
I understand why so many take issue with the diamond industry. I would not want a diamond myself because of all the suffering involved in obtaining them.
What I don't agree with is this lab-created diamond circlejerk that no one is ... | I might argue that uncut diamond is the only real romantic way to make an engagement ring using the same reasoning. You take the materials from the earth and then alter them to suit your specific needs in both cases. If I proposed to you using a lab-made diamond, not even an expert could tell the difference, and like y... | Romance comes from the story you assign to something. Sunsets aren’t inherently romantic, they are just sunlight refracting differently through the atmosphere as the Earth rotates. Long walks on the beach are just traveling across the eroded remnants of old rocks and minerals.
But lab-created diamonds—we have harne... | 94jfne | CMV: a lab-created diamond is unromantic and not a substitute for real diamond rings | I understand why so many take issue with the diamond industry. I would not want a diamond myself because of all the suffering involved in obtaining them.
What I don't agree with is this lab-created diamond circlejerk that no one is allowed to say anything against. How is a fake stone in any way romantic? The romantic... | 1,533,392,261 | HeathenArmy | e3lft13 | e3lfne6 | 6 | 5 |
CMV: Conservatism is an inherently selfish and societally destructive political viewpoint.
Conservatives vote to cut taxes on the rich, to deny medical care to those who need it and cannot afford it (without going into insane debt), to deny the right to marry to some members of society, to deny a liveable minimum wage... | " it seems that to be conservative is to make/change laws in favor of yourself at the expense of other people. "
I agree with this. However, I don't see how that leads to
"Socially destructive political viewpoint"
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The more conservative the country becomes, the worse it is for the poor, for the sick, for ... | The core of conservatism is the belief that the preservation of social order is paramount. Change is dangerous and must be undertaken with great care and caution. In this way conservatism is the opposite of socially destructive, it seeks to preserve society as it is, regardless of the quality of that society. A prim... | b3vr37 | CMV: Conservatism is an inherently selfish and societally destructive political viewpoint. | Conservatives vote to cut taxes on the rich, to deny medical care to those who need it and cannot afford it (without going into insane debt), to deny the right to marry to some members of society, to deny a liveable minimum wage, to strip protections from those who need them, and actively obstruct the process to make v... | 1,553,201,046 | DoubleBThomas | ej2pxvy | ej2nn5n | 1 | 0 |
cmv: Eugenics and Incest go hand in hand.
My definition of Eugenics is the selection of superior traits. Not the killing or culling of those less fortunate. Superior traits being able to walk, talk and function, not risk of cancer and other agreeable defects that you wouldn't want your child to have. My view is that
e... | >If your preventing from a brother and sister from having kids due to birth defects. How is that any different from stopping two people with down syndrome or autism from having kids.
In the US, at least, if a man gets his sister pregnant, they will be subject to the laws in their state on incest. But they will *not* b... | >My definition of Eugenics is the selection of superior traits. Not the killing or culling of those less fortunate. Superior traits being able to walk, talk and function, not risk of cancer and other agreeable defects that you wouldn't want your child to have. My view is that eugenics should be legalise
People do this... | muap1l | cmv: Eugenics and Incest go hand in hand. | My definition of Eugenics is the selection of superior traits. Not the killing or culling of those less fortunate. Superior traits being able to walk, talk and function, not risk of cancer and other agreeable defects that you wouldn't want your child to have. My view is that
eugenics should be legalise, and Incest is n... | 1,618,866,748 | LIVEinPLEASURE | gv4s6cc | gv4nipv | 7 | 2 |
CMV: There is NO excuse for not learning the language if you move to a new country or permanently.
I am currently living in my 3rd country and in all 3 countries I have encountered numerous people (who had made those countries their new homes) who couldn’t hold a conversation in the official, or at least one of the of... | You haven't really provided an argument as to why, other than expressing you are not fond of it.
If you do not need to know the language, than it may not be worth the effort. Yes, you can not communicate with everyone, but if you are able to sufficiently communicate with everyone you need to, then what's the issue?
I... | Well then they shouldn't learn it if they don't want to but if they shouldn't be expected to learn the official language of a country than that country should not be expected to have any bilingual signs. Gone are all the Spanish language signs and forms in the DMV, let's get rid of the Spanish translations for governm... | 86wqs0 | CMV: There is NO excuse for not learning the language if you move to a new country or permanently. | I am currently living in my 3rd country and in all 3 countries I have encountered numerous people (who had made those countries their new homes) who couldn’t hold a conversation in the official, or at least one of the official, languages. Some even after living there for over 20 years. I find this to be disrespectful a... | 1,521,932,539 | Duke_of_Jeroaldan | dw8g76m | dw8eqy5 | 23 | 3 |
CMV:I'm unwilling to support separatist movements, specially Catalonia's.
The recent Catalonia mess inspired me to make this CMV. I don't live in Spain, so I don't know all the details. I know that the central Madrid government is hindering this and is very corrupt, but still.
- The "different culture" argument: alm... | > The "different culture" argument: almost every independence movement use this argument
That's because it's the most basic argument to be made. Someone who follows a distinct culture shouldn't be subjugated by the culture of the majority. distinct cultures should also have the right to self determination.
>India is ... | I don't think there is any argument that can make you be willing to support something you don't want to. So there's that problem.
I guess the main point here is why not. If a region is part of a country, why not let it separate, and also take its own costs, negotiate its own treaties, etc.
What is to say that people... | 79bs6n | CMV:I'm unwilling to support separatist movements, specially Catalonia's. | The recent Catalonia mess inspired me to make this CMV. I don't live in Spain, so I don't know all the details. I know that the central Madrid government is hindering this and is very corrupt, but still.
- The "different culture" argument: almost every independence movement use this argument. India is a stable (?) mu... | 1,509,216,041 | garaile64 | dp0rdb6 | dp0q141 | 6 | 2 |
CMV: Ayn Rand's Objectivism Is a Horrible Political Theory
(Background – Skip this to the solid line if you don’t want my justification for posting)
I wrote my undergraduate honors thesis on Atlas Shrugged and how the video game Bioshock was in the vein of a liberal arts critique of an ethical/political movement. Ve... | I'm not an Objectivist but I have had friends sympathetic to it. I took the time to understand their perspective. Most critiques of the philosophy don't really understand it. Yours included.
> We can refute this scientifically and put it to bed, humans regularly protect their kin at their own self-sacrifice.
Objec... | >First, it’s impossible to substantiate that altruism is bad or evil as Rand would claim.
I am no expert on Rand and Objectivism, but didn't Rand make it clear that 'altruism' is when a person does something for *no* benefit to themselves whatsoever?
I.e. that if I donate money to charity so I can feel good about my... | b3u11l | CMV: Ayn Rand's Objectivism Is a Horrible Political Theory | (Background – Skip this to the solid line if you don’t want my justification for posting)
I wrote my undergraduate honors thesis on Atlas Shrugged and how the video game Bioshock was in the vein of a liberal arts critique of an ethical/political movement. Very dorky. Very liberal arts college-y. But I had to read Ant... | 1,553,192,595 | _Zorpo_ | ej28rf7 | ej28400 | 20 | 8 |
CMV: I don't understand why people are still talking about the recent tragedies in New Zealand, when people seem to stop talking about school shootings within the first few (3 or so) days.
Everybody is still continuing to speak about the recent tragedy in New Zealand, and yes it is very unfortunate this happened and n... | I would reiterate your own hypothesis - school shootings just happen all the time in the US. We had 346 mass shootings, just in 2018. That's one, nearly every single day. New Zealand hasn't had one since 1999.
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When the same damn thing, happens literally every day, you have no choice but to get used to it - ... | I mean there are a whole lot of other undercurrents along with it. The facebook livestream and the meme ridden manifesto all pile into what can be talked about. People, and news, are looking for a reason this happened and there is a lot of content out there that gives possible reasons. But part of the issue is that the... | b3w12v | CMV: I don't understand why people are still talking about the recent tragedies in New Zealand, when people seem to stop talking about school shootings within the first few (3 or so) days. | Everybody is still continuing to speak about the recent tragedy in New Zealand, and yes it is very unfortunate this happened and nobody should ever have to experience that, however, I do think it is a little odd people are still talking about it, meanwhile, when school shootings happen, people seem to stop talking abou... | 1,553,202,426 | _LumbeR | ej2kyg5 | ej2kq61 | 5 | 0 |
CMV: All pickup trucks, regardless of manufacturer, are the same.
1. Being a Ford guy, a Chevy guy, Dodge guy, etc is just "brand-standing." Only body style and the logo on the front is different.
2. All pickups pull the same trailers. Landscapers for example, whether enclosed or open trailers, pull these same trai... | I bought a truck a couple of months ago and in the process of that I did a lot of research into them to figure out which one was the best for me. To be sure, they are all very similar but there are certainly differences.
To start with, Ford and Dodge weren't even options on the table because I knew I would not make m... | Not really relevant considering the consumer market for 3/4-1.5 ton(s) trucks is extremely slim. Your average Joe doesn't need that much of a heavy duty truck, and if someone is shopping around for something that extravagant, it would obviously be the better option for a long-term purchase to go with a GM as they make ... | a851n2 | CMV: All pickup trucks, regardless of manufacturer, are the same. | 1. Being a Ford guy, a Chevy guy, Dodge guy, etc is just "brand-standing." Only body style and the logo on the front is different.
2. All pickups pull the same trailers. Landscapers for example, whether enclosed or open trailers, pull these same trailers with all makes of trucks.
3. All pickups have towing capacity... | 1,545,356,321 | mweb32 | ec84eem | ec816v7 | 2 | 1 |
CMV: UBI would be a very good system in america
First off I'd like to say I'll be discussing both how UBI should be implemented, what the benefits would be and why.
I believe the new UBI system should payout to american citizens through a household/independent and dependent system where everyone who files as an indep... | Those capital gains tax rates are crazy. Capital gains taxes are basically the most sensitive rate in terms of impacting behavior, and cranking them up to 70% would decimate investment, thus decimating the us economy:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielmitchell/2014/11/07/the-overwhelming-case-against-capital-gains-ta... | > Budget Changes: ....Cut Social Security (-916B) (SSI wouldn't be cut however expanded)
i.e., transfer money from retired old people to working-age people.
Per the social security FAQ [pdf](https://www.ssa.gov/news/press/factsheets/basicfact-alt.pdf):
* The average benefit is over $1,400 per month
* It's the... | 9f0374 | CMV: UBI would be a very good system in america | First off I'd like to say I'll be discussing both how UBI should be implemented, what the benefits would be and why.
I believe the new UBI system should payout to american citizens through a household/independent and dependent system where everyone who files as an independent gets 1k$/mth and for every dependent claim... | 1,536,690,500 | wearyguard | e5sxs20 | e5svuzu | 9 | 7 |
CMV - I should not go to Iran because as a young female, I would be made to feel uncomfortable.
My partner wants to go to Iran for a week and is trying to convince me it's a good holiday destination for culture and history. I don't doubt this. However I'm under the impression that women in Iran are viewed as second cl... | > I would be made to feel uncomfortable.
By whom? | Are you really saying there is no Misogyny in the Middle East? | 6xmlny | CMV - I should not go to Iran because as a young female, I would be made to feel uncomfortable. | My partner wants to go to Iran for a week and is trying to convince me it's a good holiday destination for culture and history. I don't doubt this. However I'm under the impression that women in Iran are viewed as second class citizens which does not sit well with me.
First of all, I've never properly visited the mid... | 1,504,365,635 | Pinkfinch | dmhihs1 | dmh9yb3 | 0 | -1 |
CMV: Detoxing from hard drugs (e.g. cocaine) is not automatically praiseworthy
• In many cases, “hard” drugs are not widely available (unlike many other common addictive substances such as food, caffeine or internet, which are nearly ubiquitous). Therefore, in some cases, the person has gone and sought out the drug as... | You've given reasons why you think overcoming addiction shouldn't (automatically) be considered a positive achievement, because we can't know a person's history. But why does this mean they shouldn't be praised? What is the negative effect of praising someone for making a positive change to something negative which was... | It's still overcoming a challenge. It's still bettering yourself as a person. It's still looking at your life and making a positive change. All of these things are praise worthy. It's irrelevant if they're going from an immature party loving addict with no responsibilities to a person who doesn't do drugs. They're maki... | 9f5f2f | CMV: Detoxing from hard drugs (e.g. cocaine) is not automatically praiseworthy | • In many cases, “hard” drugs are not widely available (unlike many other common addictive substances such as food, caffeine or internet, which are nearly ubiquitous). Therefore, in some cases, the person has gone and sought out the drug as an adult/older teen while fully aware of the harm it can do (as opposed to bein... | 1,536,735,122 | mistrali2 | e5tyz1o | e5tyozw | 9 | 3 |
CMV:Most drugs should be legalized
Ok, here are the facts, alcohol is one of the most harmful drugs to you and to others. Tobacco not so much but still much worse than cannabis for example.
I believe every single person educated in the matter thinks cannabis should be legalized, but that’s beside the point. Ecstasy s... | Assuming your title refers to recreational drugs, I would say that *all* drugs should be legal. Assuming the risks of taking the drugs are clearly advertised (like with cigarettes today), it should be your choice what you do with your body. | Do you think there is such a thing as a therapeutic dose of alcohol? For example, that a glass of red wine a day will improve your cardiovascular health? | 94iye6 | CMV:Most drugs should be legalized | Ok, here are the facts, alcohol is one of the most harmful drugs to you and to others. Tobacco not so much but still much worse than cannabis for example.
I believe every single person educated in the matter thinks cannabis should be legalized, but that’s beside the point. Ecstasy should be legal if alcohol is. Mushro... | 1,533,387,669 | dabausman | e3lbjdp | e3lb9wv | 6 | 2 |
CMV: Racial segregation in prisons might actually be beneficial.
It goes without saying, I hope, that racism and racial segregation are horrific strategies, both on a human level and even just a cold economic level, so notice that I said 'beneficial' and not 'right'. But, in reference to prisons, could it actually hav... | Could not the same be said if we divided prisons up by what sort of movies everyone liked?
You might see benefits in dividing by race, but that's because prison is bound to the structure of race.
I'm not trying to say you're wrong, simply to change your view by acknowledging the absurdity of it. We could divide priso... | Wouldn't this just make it much, much easier for prisoners to form organized race-based gangs than otherwise? I actually don't know which is worse, but it's something to think about. | 6qch32 | CMV: Racial segregation in prisons might actually be beneficial. | It goes without saying, I hope, that racism and racial segregation are horrific strategies, both on a human level and even just a cold economic level, so notice that I said 'beneficial' and not 'right'. But, in reference to prisons, could it actually have some value?
In prison, the rules of the game are far more prima... | 1,501,351,947 | poor-flaming-fish | dkwni8b | dkwgof6 | 7 | 4 |
CMV: in the USA, there should be less national control and just have more power to the states instead.
This is just a shower thought so I'm really open to what everyone has to say. I can see it getting messy, but **generally speaking**, I think it would be better if everyone just moved to the state they identify with ... | I respect your thoughts and opinions, but I wholeheartedly think they come from a place of ignorance.
I don't want complete polarized control. Look, I'm as liberal as they come, but I would never want to live in a world with complete democratic control and no discerning voices.
Don't get me wrong, I think the GOP ha... | I mean a big issue that just popped into my head with this sort of thing is, if we were to apply it to the current U.S., what happens to a conservative worker at a place like Google? Google's headquarters is on the West Coast, specifically California, which is one of the most liberal states. Now, if he wants to keep hi... | mv2hnv | CMV: in the USA, there should be less national control and just have more power to the states instead. | This is just a shower thought so I'm really open to what everyone has to say. I can see it getting messy, but **generally speaking**, I think it would be better if everyone just moved to the state they identify with politically. (w/ the idea that it should be made easy to move between states) move to WA for LGBTQ+ righ... | 1,618,958,782 | puddle-ass | gv9g11j | gv9eilc | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Anti-white racism isn't taken seriously enough.
To start I'd like to say, yes, I am white. I hope that doesn't devalue my opinion.
If I say "I hate black people" on Reddit, Facebook, whatever I will receive ENORMOUS amounts of backlash and may be deleted. But just go to r/TumblrInAction and you will find no sho... | This is a common misunderstanding that stems from two different definitions of the word "racism." One comes from everyday language, and the other comes from an academic context.
Your paragraph at the end, rhetorically asking if historic racism by white people "justifies" current racial prejudice against white people, ... | So, I'll jump in as another white person, because personally I'm not at all worried about anti-white racism. The thing is, bigotry directed against white people like you and I doesn't really carry the same weight that discrimination against non-white folks does. We don't really have to worry about our safety, or about ... | 94jml8 | CMV: Anti-white racism isn't taken seriously enough. | To start I'd like to say, yes, I am white. I hope that doesn't devalue my opinion.
If I say "I hate black people" on Reddit, Facebook, whatever I will receive ENORMOUS amounts of backlash and may be deleted. But just go to r/TumblrInAction and you will find no shortage of people saying "stupid white people". I think ... | 1,533,393,938 | mossypiglet1 | e3lh54s | e3lgn0w | 120 | 19 |
CMV: in the USA, there should be less national control and just have more power to the states instead.
This is just a shower thought so I'm really open to what everyone has to say. I can see it getting messy, but **generally speaking**, I think it would be better if everyone just moved to the state they identify with ... | Let me just touch on the LGBTQ example. Say I'm against gay rights to so I choose to live in Alabama and raise my family there because Alabama decided they're not doing gay rights. What if I have a gay child? They are now stuck in a state with no gay rights. Their options are to stay in the closet, move out of state as... | > it would be better if everyone just moved to the state they identify with politically
not everyone has the means to move.
Even for those who have the capability to move, a lot of folks have built communities and have strong ties to where they are at.
Very few states in the country vote homogeneously. In my state,... | mv2hnv | CMV: in the USA, there should be less national control and just have more power to the states instead. | This is just a shower thought so I'm really open to what everyone has to say. I can see it getting messy, but **generally speaking**, I think it would be better if everyone just moved to the state they identify with politically. (w/ the idea that it should be made easy to move between states) move to WA for LGBTQ+ righ... | 1,618,958,782 | puddle-ass | gv9fag6 | gv9f681 | 19 | 5 |
CMV: Killer whales should be more widely refered as Orcas, as they are neither whales nor aware enough to commit murder.
Killer Whales are actually dolphins, a separate parvorder that are not whales.
And more, adding "killer" to the name suggest they are the sea's bullies, when bottlenose dolphins are way ahead of or... | "Killer" is fairly apt. They will coordinate hunts against other dolphins and whales, sharks, and seals. They've been reported to commit infanticide against their own, and attack blue whales for fun. They're extremely intelligent and coordinated social killers.
[https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/03/orca-killer-... | I've heard stories about dolphins saving people. I heard this one story about a bunch of dolphins protecting a guy against a shark attack. I've never heard of Orcas doing that. I think I'd feel safer around a bunch of dolphins than around a bunchy of Orcas, but I don't really know which one is more dangerous.
EDIT: Th... | a84wit | CMV: Killer whales should be more widely refered as Orcas, as they are neither whales nor aware enough to commit murder. | Killer Whales are actually dolphins, a separate parvorder that are not whales.
And more, adding "killer" to the name suggest they are the sea's bullies, when bottlenose dolphins are way ahead of orcas in that respect, because they are rapist assholes.
I'll change my mind if you can convince me that orcas generally ha... | 1,545,355,219 | RafeHaab | ec89vcj | ec7zoaq | 4 | 2 |
CMV:Most drugs should be legalized
Ok, here are the facts, alcohol is one of the most harmful drugs to you and to others. Tobacco not so much but still much worse than cannabis for example.
I believe every single person educated in the matter thinks cannabis should be legalized, but that’s beside the point. Ecstasy s... | I'm quite surprised as to why more people haven't mentioned the two points that I believe is the reason for criminalization of many drugs. Would you, for example, ban PCP? People who take that drug have an extremely high probability of violent behavior that affect *independent parties.* I'm totally libertarian when it ... | I'll admit that I'm not the most well-versed on how fentanyl needs to be ingested to be lethal. But would it not be incredibly easy to put a tiny bit of fentanyl in someone's DMT, heroin, meth, etc and have them overdose immediately? This would be a convenient way to make it look like an accident and get off scot free.... | 94iye6 | CMV:Most drugs should be legalized | Ok, here are the facts, alcohol is one of the most harmful drugs to you and to others. Tobacco not so much but still much worse than cannabis for example.
I believe every single person educated in the matter thinks cannabis should be legalized, but that’s beside the point. Ecstasy should be legal if alcohol is. Mushro... | 1,533,387,669 | dabausman | e3m2dxb | e3lopis | 1 | 0 |
CMV: There's nothing wrong with reposting a good thing because not everyone browses this site everyday, and the people that complain about it are just spreading negativity.
If OP misses something from the original post, like quality or additional details, then you should either share that in a nice way or just ignore ... | Having something posted a second time is nothing that is really annoying the vast majority of users. Problems arise when:
1. The content is wrongly claimed as original (Titles like "Look what I just found today" when its nothing they found that day, but something someone else found another day) because it is kind of... | Would a good compromise be a "thingsyoumayhavemissed" subreddit? I only get bothered when there is an obvious attempt to farm karma from reposts. It just feels cheap. | 86vxsl | CMV: There's nothing wrong with reposting a good thing because not everyone browses this site everyday, and the people that complain about it are just spreading negativity. | If OP misses something from the original post, like quality or additional details, then you should either share that in a nice way or just ignore it. Reposting has such a stigma on Reddit and I'm genuinely curious--can someone convince me that reposting is bad, or that calling out people for reposting is a good and pr... | 1,521,925,041 | LordCheezusCrust | dw87xpj | dw87rmi | 8 | 2 |
CMV: not voting is better than wasting a vote on a terrible candidate
My view is that if there are 2 candidates, both of whom you dislike, and there are no other options, then you should not vote. Likewise, you DEFINITELY shouldn't vote for the candidate you assume will lose anyway.
If there were two choices for dinn... | The vote is the way you select which dinner to eat. The eating of the dinner is analogous to the running of the country. One of the meals is getting shoved down your throat either way. Removing yourself from deciding which one doesn't change that. | I'm not sure which country you live in but there are many things you can and should do insted of just sitting at home such as spoiling your ballet.
Also I think researching the candidates is part of voting anyway so having not done that means you have already failed.
Edit:
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web... | e2ffk4 | CMV: not voting is better than wasting a vote on a terrible candidate | My view is that if there are 2 candidates, both of whom you dislike, and there are no other options, then you should not vote. Likewise, you DEFINITELY shouldn't vote for the candidate you assume will lose anyway.
If there were two choices for dinner, toe fungus and rat liver, would you choose one or would you not eat... | 1,574,858,094 | shannonthomas139 | f8v3ymz | f8v3wgv | 17 | 2 |
CMV: Detroit, MI is a dying city and will eventually be surpassed by Grand Rapids, MI as the largest city in Michigan.
1) The population in Detroit has been steadily falling every year since 1950 when it hit an all-time high of 1,850,000 residents; it now has 673,104 residents according to the 2017 US Census.
2) Larg... | Grand Rapids Metropolitan area is a little over 1 million people, and Detroit Metropolitan area is a little over 4 million people. The metropolitan area, not the actual city boundaries, define how large a city is functionally. Even if we look only at the city population, Grand Rapids is a little under 200,000, and Detr... | I have a buddy who is a real estate attorney who worked with the guy who owns the Pistons. What he told me is that that guy basically bought a pretty good portion of downtown Detroit, and is currently well into the process of overhauling it to become live/work/retail space, and so far the results are exceeding even th... | b3t23h | CMV: Detroit, MI is a dying city and will eventually be surpassed by Grand Rapids, MI as the largest city in Michigan. | 1) The population in Detroit has been steadily falling every year since 1950 when it hit an all-time high of 1,850,000 residents; it now has 673,104 residents according to the 2017 US Census.
2) Large sections of Detroit have undergone severe urban decay, which is extremely expensive to fix-- something a cash-strappe... | 1,553,187,923 | BeastOfOne | ej20srq | ej1zsvu | 11 | 5 |
CMV: Giant burgers that people cannot feasibly bite into are bad.
Burgers should have all their layers be able to be bitten into at once. The burger should be constructed with complementary flavors, and its size should facilitate that.
If a burger wanted people to have bits and pieces of its parts in every bite, why... | I would like to argue that giant burgers are not in themselves bad, but rather are only bad because they are difficult to eat and provide no obvious means of doing so.
While salads have their place, you don’t expect every bite to have every component of the salad in it. And so burgers are differentiated because they h... | Nothing states that you have to eat a burger with your hands. It is perfectly acceptable to eat it with a knife and fork cutting out bite sized pieces. | 86u7zl | CMV: Giant burgers that people cannot feasibly bite into are bad. | Burgers should have all their layers be able to be bitten into at once. The burger should be constructed with complementary flavors, and its size should facilitate that.
If a burger wanted people to have bits and pieces of its parts in every bite, why not just make a salad instead? Salads are respectable, and they do... | 1,521,909,906 | scratchedhead | dw7uqlq | dw7umrq | 684 | 80 |
CMV: Being banned from a subreddit is not censorship
Time and again, I see redditors reacting to being banned or to having their posts or comments deleted by claiming they are being censored.
Now, I'm willing to accept that the meaning of words can change and that just because "censorship" has traditionally meant the... | Banning all users consistently for violating a rule is not censorship, deliberately making a vague rule and only applying it when those users violate it whose views go against the ideology of the mod team however IS a form of censorship.
A large well known sub is rife with this type of mod abuse so I will use it as an... | Typically it has had to do with government, but never exclusively. Things get censored all the time, without government interference. When AMC decides Walking Dead can't have any "fucks," they're censoring the source material without input from the government. When my dad muted the swear words in Christmas Vacation whe... | 79aaqi | CMV: Being banned from a subreddit is not censorship | Time and again, I see redditors reacting to being banned or to having their posts or comments deleted by claiming they are being censored.
Now, I'm willing to accept that the meaning of words can change and that just because "censorship" has traditionally meant the suppression of speech by the government that the mean... | 1,509,199,936 | Literally_Herodotus | dp0rxpk | dp0muau | 2 | 1 |
CMV: There needs to be taxes on high sugar/fat products
I see this everyday in my school, kids choosing extremely high sugar/fat content snacks rather than eating the healthy food our school provides because it's more convenient. I understand it would be hard to implement this in school but definitely possible in stor... | Sin taxes are immoral. The government has no business telling you what you can or cannot eat. Additionally fat and sugar are necessary in a diet for survival. Without fats your brain dies, without sugars you have no energy sources. | Fat is good actually, sugar is bad. But honestly it's a matter of choice. Vices have no victim | 86ulq2 | CMV: There needs to be taxes on high sugar/fat products | I see this everyday in my school, kids choosing extremely high sugar/fat content snacks rather than eating the healthy food our school provides because it's more convenient. I understand it would be hard to implement this in school but definitely possible in stores. We have sin taxes on alcohol and cigarettes because t... | 1,521,913,293 | PsychedwithTrouble | dw81vcx | dw809lk | 4 | 2 |
CMV: We don't know whether a fetus is a human or not. Therefore, we should not abort it.
If a fetus is a human, then by aborting it we've committed murder.
If a fetus is not a human, then we should probably treat it with the same ethic we do animals.
Given that we do not know, it's a huge risk to assume one way or ... | I'm not trying to change your mind about abortion. I just want to point out that this argument isn't persuasive.
This is basically Pascal's Wager with "preventing abortion" in the place of "believing in god."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager
People aren't convinced by Pascal's Wager, and you can find ... | >There are some people who think that the breath of life is what grants someone their personhood and humanity.
If you mean by "breath of life" the religious origin of humanity, well then, yeah, once you're willing to redefine the words in the discussion on the basis of theology/faith you don't expect others to share, ... | 9f7y4e | CMV: We don't know whether a fetus is a human or not. Therefore, we should not abort it. | If a fetus is a human, then by aborting it we've committed murder.
If a fetus is not a human, then we should probably treat it with the same ethic we do animals.
Given that we do not know, it's a huge risk to assume one way or the other, but especially bad if we assume it is not a human; if we are wrong, then we've ... | 1,536,760,399 | jailthewhaletail | e5ugykp | e5ufgno | 8 | 3 |
CMV: The average person is pretty bad at formal logic and this is having terrible consequences in society
Let me start by saying that I don't pretend to be a paragon of logic and reasoning. However I have a degree in CS and a minor in math and I earn my keep doing math (geometry mostly). That doesn't mean I know anyth... | Apart from the fact that you are wrong about the infinite monkeys (that _isn't_ necessarily how infinity works), pretty much nothing you are talking about in your post is related to formal logic.
* Your monkey example is about probability, not logic. The only relation to logic is that if you had tried to write out you... | See... the problem with "formal logic" is that it can get you into trouble, when your premises are bad.
Example:
>In that post I started arguing with multiple people as to why it is absolutely true (with 100% certainty) that infinite monkeys would produce all of Shakespeare's works at least once.
No, infinite monke... | e27faz | CMV: The average person is pretty bad at formal logic and this is having terrible consequences in society | Let me start by saying that I don't pretend to be a paragon of logic and reasoning. However I have a degree in CS and a minor in math and I earn my keep doing math (geometry mostly). That doesn't mean I know anything at all, it doesn't mean I am smart, it doesn't mean that I am an expert in any of the issues I talk abo... | 1,574,813,949 | camilo16 | f8tzl5t | f8tyyuq | 8 | 1 |
CMV: The average person is pretty bad at formal logic and this is having terrible consequences in society
Let me start by saying that I don't pretend to be a paragon of logic and reasoning. However I have a degree in CS and a minor in math and I earn my keep doing math (geometry mostly). That doesn't mean I know anyth... | I'm not saying you're wrong but also keep in mind that formal logic has it's flaws because it's dependent on what your objective is. If everyone's objective is to make a better world then yes it would probably be better if everyone was better at formal logic. However, some politicians goals aren't always to make the be... | I don’t think it’s necessarily an issue with logic directly, more so in that people tend to not care or want to think. Most of the people on internet just regurgitate shit they have heard else where. And when confronted with opposition, they don’t even want to listen or think. They want to live in their echo chamber. T... | e27faz | CMV: The average person is pretty bad at formal logic and this is having terrible consequences in society | Let me start by saying that I don't pretend to be a paragon of logic and reasoning. However I have a degree in CS and a minor in math and I earn my keep doing math (geometry mostly). That doesn't mean I know anything at all, it doesn't mean I am smart, it doesn't mean that I am an expert in any of the issues I talk abo... | 1,574,813,949 | camilo16 | f8tyxzx | f8ty6wa | 16 | 13 |
CMV: Elon Musk is from the future and has gone back in time to save us from our AI overlords
Almost every invention or project that Elon has put time or money into is something that would be extremely useful in the event of a robot takeover. Elon has also said numerous times that he fears artificial intelligence and h... | 1. electric cars can't run on solar panels in that way. There is that much energy in su light.
2. Its not actually armored. It will stop low powered pistol rounds at best, 556 and your dead (and guess what the most common cartridge for the military is?)
3. Boring company is effectively dead.
4. Hyper loop doesn't actua... | An AI takeover might not look like what you're imagining. AI are designed to optimize very well, and any AI that was advanced enough to pose a genuine threat would probably use more insidious and effective tactics than "build an army or robots".
Let's do a bit of speculation, just for fun. Imagine, for instance, how e... | e27xca | CMV: Elon Musk is from the future and has gone back in time to save us from our AI overlords | Almost every invention or project that Elon has put time or money into is something that would be extremely useful in the event of a robot takeover. Elon has also said numerous times that he fears artificial intelligence and has done several seminars on the problems it could bring about. So let's go through some of his... | 1,574,816,186 | Diylion | f8u3qo3 | f8u27gr | 3 | 1 |
CMV: There is literally no point in maintaining closed borders other than trying to feel special/nationalist
1. Immigrants don't take jobs, they compete with workers in that market for jobs, and if they can do it better/cheaper/more efficiently than everybody within your home country, why is that an issue? They simply... | >Immigrants don't take jobs, they compete with workers in that market for jobs
Only when they do.
From the european perspective, many of those "economic migrants" are unemplyoable. This is due to them being unquallified, unable to speak the language of the land and not cheaper than anyone from within the economic are... | >I don't think it is any more reasonable than me saying "I'm okay giving some of my income to white poor people, but not Hispanic poor people"
It's not saying "Im okay giving some of my income to white poor people but not Hispanic poor people" (even aside from the fact that most Hispanic people are white). It's sayin... | 6xi3ey | CMV: There is literally no point in maintaining closed borders other than trying to feel special/nationalist | 1. Immigrants don't take jobs, they compete with workers in that market for jobs, and if they can do it better/cheaper/more efficiently than everybody within your home country, why is that an issue? They simply do it better than you. An argument against this is essentially saying "I can't do work as effectively as this... | 1,504,306,114 | adamd22 | dmg7rvt | dmg6o0u | 8 | 3 |
CMV: It's bigotry to call someone "transphobic" just for believing that biology determines gender.
bigotry
NOUN
*mass noun*
* Intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.
[https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bigotry](https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bigotry)
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C... | Believing that biology determines gender isn't an opinion. It's a misunderstanding of what gender is. Gender is a social construct which is associated with chromosomal (or biological) sex, but is not strictly defined by it. Sex is strictly defined by your biology. Sex is mostly binary, but [Intersex](https://en.wikiped... | Bigot (Merriam Webster)
>a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
I wouldn't say transphobic is the right word, I would actually describe t... | 9f6e2o | CMV: It's bigotry to call someone "transphobic" just for believing that biology determines gender. | bigotry
NOUN
*mass noun*
* Intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.
[https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bigotry](https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bigotry)
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Calling someone transphobic for simply holding a different opinion (i.e that biology determines ones ... | 1,536,746,729 | JoeVacs | e5u3os1 | e5u3ml0 | 27 | 11 |
CMV: A content creator should not ask for donations
The only scenario when donations are acceptable is organizations and charities that improve our society no matter the amount of donations. I am thinking about red cross and medicines sans frontiers ...
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A youtuber or blogger that spend thousands of dollars ... | So in my opinion you are getting terms mixed up.
"Donation" usually describes gifts of money, services or goods to benefit some charitable or humanitarian cause.
In my experience what content creators usually ask for is "patronage".
This is the support, encouragement and financial assistance that an individual o... | Absolutely, and at that point you can choose not to support them or even watch them. If it wasn't for people who do support them they wouldn't be making the video in the first place, so by not watching their videos you wouldn't be missing anything.
I think it's awesome that we have that freedom. Do I enjoy listening t... | a7g54b | CMV: A content creator should not ask for donations | The only scenario when donations are acceptable is organizations and charities that improve our society no matter the amount of donations. I am thinking about red cross and medicines sans frontiers ...
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A youtuber or blogger that spend thousands of dollars to buy equipment, a lot of hours creating content and... | 1,545,172,771 | slk14k | ec30z13 | ec2ujl8 | 5 | 1 |
CMV: If you play games, you're a gamer, and to say otherwise is just needless gatekeeping
Note that I'm talking specifically about video games here, because that's where this sort of discourse is most prevalent, but the argument could be expanded to any sort of game, because I see similar sorts of gatekeeping happen i... | >CMV: If you play games, you're a gamer, and to say otherwise is just needless gatekeeping.
Almost everyone plays games. Playing is completely integral to human nature - and even relatively intelligent animals play games in proportions that make the non-players an infinitesimal minority.
If playing any games with any... | Definition 2 of a "gamer" in Mirriam Webster is:
>[A person who plays games.](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gamer)
You are indeed missing something. The trolls.
People who say "You're a gamer, name every game" are doing so in one of two ways:
\- Being competitive (You're not as MUCH of a gamer as I am.... | mv2hyu | CMV: If you play games, you're a gamer, and to say otherwise is just needless gatekeeping | Note that I'm talking specifically about video games here, because that's where this sort of discourse is most prevalent, but the argument could be expanded to any sort of game, because I see similar sorts of gatekeeping happen in e.g. tabletop gaming spaces as well.
This seems obvious to me, but there are many people... | 1,618,958,811 | [deleted] | gv9gh6h | gv9fei4 | 5 | 1 |
CMV: the Dallas shooting by the off-duty officer Amber Guyger can reasonably be believed to be an honest, very unlucky and very costly mistake.
This is the shooting of the black guy by a cop in his own house Reddit and Twitter are losing their shit over.
Here's the story as we know it now from the point of view of th... | Can we see those witnesses' testimonies? I am ok with changing my view if those testimonies are released to the press, even if that is a couple of months later. | > She gave him verbal commands, which he didn't comply with
is this her point of view or did the victim / a witness confirmed that? if not it can´t be proven imo.
> , the fact that the victim and the perpetrator didn't seem to know each other,
is irrelevant because psychopath don´t usually know their victims e... | 9f613u | CMV: the Dallas shooting by the off-duty officer Amber Guyger can reasonably be believed to be an honest, very unlucky and very costly mistake. | This is the shooting of the black guy by a cop in his own house Reddit and Twitter are losing their shit over.
Here's the story as we know it now from the point of view of the cop. After working a shift, she was returning home, but got on the wrong floor in her apartment complex. Due to all floors being identical, she... | 1,536,742,531 | Morphie12121 | e5u2jv1 | e5u1sjo | 4 | 3 |
CMV: you can’t be racist towards white people
A quick disclaimer: I am white myself and I am open to new ideas and ways to think about this topic. So my view is that you can’t be racist toward white people as a whole, only prejudiced. My reasoning is that white isn’t really a race, more of a skin color. You can be rac... | Maybe there needs to be another word this kind of behavior besides _racism_. The original, racist description of races did indeed include _all_ white people as a race. There were Causasoids, Negroids, and Mongoloids, and then later Australoids. That is literally the origin of races and racism.
As for being higher up, ... | I think this is purely a question of definitions. If “racism” means “discrimination or prejudice directed toward a racial group,” you can be racist against white people, because white people are a racial group. If “racism” means “discrimination or prejudice directed at a weaker group by a group that is systematically... | a84xg9 | CMV: you can’t be racist towards white people | A quick disclaimer: I am white myself and I am open to new ideas and ways to think about this topic. So my view is that you can’t be racist toward white people as a whole, only prejudiced. My reasoning is that white isn’t really a race, more of a skin color. You can be racist towards specific groups, like how hitler wa... | 1,545,355,420 | imliljuul | ec803bx | ec7ze3s | 8 | 4 |
CMV: Elon Musk is from the future and has gone back in time to save us from our AI overlords
Almost every invention or project that Elon has put time or money into is something that would be extremely useful in the event of a robot takeover. Elon has also said numerous times that he fears artificial intelligence and h... | >electric cars can't run on solar panels in that way. There is that much energy in su light.
Can you show me the physics here? also we have the energy that can be generated from the wheels turning going downhill.
>Hyper loop doesn't actually work. The design originally proposed is non functional.
Explain?
>He is... | An AI takeover might not look like what you're imagining. AI are designed to optimize very well, and any AI that was advanced enough to pose a genuine threat would probably use more insidious and effective tactics than "build an army or robots".
Let's do a bit of speculation, just for fun. Imagine, for instance, how e... | e27xca | CMV: Elon Musk is from the future and has gone back in time to save us from our AI overlords | Almost every invention or project that Elon has put time or money into is something that would be extremely useful in the event of a robot takeover. Elon has also said numerous times that he fears artificial intelligence and has done several seminars on the problems it could bring about. So let's go through some of his... | 1,574,816,186 | Diylion | f8u4ydd | f8u27gr | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Because language is such an imprecise tool and the universe is so interdependent and complex, truth does not exist.
Using logic, reason, and evidence, it is credible to categorize something as incorrect or dishonest. Debates about absolute truth and right and wrong can be practical from a utilitarian perspective.... | You do realize that there is an [entire branch of science and philosophy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics) that deals with objective truths, right? | There are some things that are true regardless of any sensory input. Mathematics is true. This can be proven from the ground up, starting with basic arithmetic, to prove things like calculus, abstract algebra, graph theory, number theory, etc. | 6qcty2 | CMV: Because language is such an imprecise tool and the universe is so interdependent and complex, truth does not exist. | Using logic, reason, and evidence, it is credible to categorize something as incorrect or dishonest. Debates about absolute truth and right and wrong can be practical from a utilitarian perspective. However, when you get down to debating what is "right," "wrong," "true," or "untrue," you ALWAYS run into the limitations... | 1,501,355,802 | nikkidarling87 | dkwa4kt | dkw9zop | 4 | 1 |
CMV:Muslims cannot complain about Islamophobia while at the same time being Homophobic
This post is mostly inspired by a recent reddit post I saw, where an article was posted that was talking about Muslim parents in Birmingham England that suspended a No Outsiders programme in a school, because it was talking about LG... | Say there is some homophobic Muslim person who you reason cannot complain about the islamophobia they face. Okay. But I'm assuming the islamophobic person isn't just discriminating against them, they're discriminating against all Muslims, even the non homophobic ones.
As far as I'm concerned the world is a worse plac... | These things don't cancel each other out. Most black people in America are Christian, and the Christian Bible contains many passages which suggest homosexuality is an abomination. So if I take your way of thinking at face value, black people can't complain about racism. | b3sogj | CMV:Muslims cannot complain about Islamophobia while at the same time being Homophobic | This post is mostly inspired by a recent reddit post I saw, where an article was posted that was talking about Muslim parents in Birmingham England that suspended a No Outsiders programme in a school, because it was talking about LGBT rights and promoting diversity and equality. [https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bi... | 1,553,186,066 | chrisisbest197 | ej1vjnc | ej1ura2 | 40 | 6 |
CMV:CMV: I feel like African Americans, should be credited as a new race. We Identify them with Africa , but most have never been to Africa, and Africa isn't a country, so that label is vague.
Recent studies show that most African Americans are 15-25 percent European. They are classified as African by America, altho l... | I can see your confusion.
Charlize Therone Is a white actress from South Africa , who could use the term African American.
My arguement is that it's simply to vague.
Using American doesn't work because American isnt a race.
Anyone from 52 African countries can come to America, become naturalized, and use the label Af... | So is your problem just the label “African American?” That’s just a quirk of US social and political history, not some rigorous scientific label. Replace “African American” with black or even negro in your head, and I think you resolve a lot of your concerns.
I don’t get any sense that Ethiopians or other African... | 79a5d4 | CMV:CMV: I feel like African Americans, should be credited as a new race. We Identify them with Africa , but most have never been to Africa, and Africa isn't a country, so that label is vague. | Recent studies show that most African Americans are 15-25 percent European. They are classified as African by America, altho like Brazilians, Cape Verdeans, Peurto Ricans, and Latinos , they are a newly created race. Even Haitians are treated as a new race , despite being more African than African Americans.
It also wo... | 1,509,198,022 | Muttlyfegirl | dp0gg7g | dp0e2df | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Leaving ad newspapers in someone's driveway or sticking your ad in someone's house door should be considered littering and a punishable crime.
**Newspaper/Magazine Bundles:**
I am currently not subscribed to any sort of newspaper or magazine service, yet I get a newspaper bundle or magazine bundle wrapped in a p... | What about in cases of political canvassing? Or other religious groups?
I personally hate getting papers left on my porch from the local Mormons, but I also have seen various community management papers, like disaster plans and voting dates. | The good thing is that this still wastes more of their time then yours, so it won't be as sustainable.
Right now they can get through a block in a few minutes, as they just coast down and throw/drop. | 949ilo | CMV: Leaving ad newspapers in someone's driveway or sticking your ad in someone's house door should be considered littering and a punishable crime. | **Newspaper/Magazine Bundles:**
I am currently not subscribed to any sort of newspaper or magazine service, yet I get a newspaper bundle or magazine bundle wrapped in a plastic bag thrown into my driveway at least once a week. Sometimes it's in a spot I don't see right away because it's dark when I get home or because... | 1,533,302,358 | Insomnia2000 | e3jjey4 | e3jfrsj | 27 | 15 |
CMV: Refusing to date transgendered people is not transphobic.
For context, I do not identify as either an ally or an LGBTQphobe. However, I do not treat my interactions with people who are LGBTQ any differently from interactions with any other person, outside of perhaps trying to be more considerate of them regarding... | It is a *bit* transphobic honestly. Just because you have a reason doesn’t mean it isn’t.
Also just because it is transphobic, doesn’t make it a problem or wrong. Everyone has tastes. I’m of the opinion that as long as you are not mean or treat anyone differently, then in the case of sexuality you don’t deserve to be... | I agree somwhat with the principle of what you think about attraction, but disagree on your stance as a whole. Think of it like this, if a straight man chooses not to date another man, nobody yells at him and calls him sexist. To a similar degree, people in Asia, let's say China, tend to date and marry *exclusively* wi... | 94gk4y | CMV: Refusing to date transgendered people is not transphobic. | For context, I do not identify as either an ally or an LGBTQphobe. However, I do not treat my interactions with people who are LGBTQ any differently from interactions with any other person, outside of perhaps trying to be more considerate of them regarding their status (secret/public) and whatever else they may want/re... | 1,533,357,863 | Saliyeri | e3l05ud | e3kzbtj | 26 | 1 |
CMV: allowing trans people to compete in womens events will only marginalize women
I've been doing some reading about how transgender female people are competing in women sports events. In the majority of cases, they tend to do pretty well. Unsurprisingly. However, there's a big difference between barely winning and t... | Can I ask what your solution to this would be?
If we banned trans women from competing against cis women due to the advantages they may have gained while living prior to transition, who should they compete against? Should they compete in the men's category, where the process of their transitioning actively gives them ... | its a nuanced issue and there is no simple solution
it is not true that all transgender women will inherently perform better than cis women. but it is true that transgender women on average are taller and bigger than cis women, which would be an advantage in certain, but not all sports - and this is not true for all t... | b3r4u5 | CMV: allowing trans people to compete in womens events will only marginalize women | I've been doing some reading about how transgender female people are competing in women sports events. In the majority of cases, they tend to do pretty well. Unsurprisingly. However, there's a big difference between barely winning and totally dominating, which is what seems to be happening. I linked a story about 2 tra... | 1,553,178,277 | CafeConLecheLover | ej1jvmc | ej1i7w7 | 11 | -3 |
CMV: Euthanasia should be legal in all jurisdictions to be performed on humans.
Euthanasia is the practice of painlessly killing someone due to terminal illness or extreme pain. If this is allowed to be performed on animals, then why are humans any different?
Since this is a messy political and ethical question, I’ll... | The thing with euthanasia is that the patient or family must consent, or it will be considered murder | What could possibly go wrong when you give people the right to kill others? | 86t1uf | CMV: Euthanasia should be legal in all jurisdictions to be performed on humans. | Euthanasia is the practice of painlessly killing someone due to terminal illness or extreme pain. If this is allowed to be performed on animals, then why are humans any different?
Since this is a messy political and ethical question, I’ll try to state my side of the problem only.
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When a person is suffering, either... | 1,521,898,687 | SirenitoDelFrio | dw85gc3 | dw840nn | 1 | 0 |
CMV: The liberal left’s treatment of “TERF”s is NOT justified.
I’m going to start by saying I am not conservative - I’m further left than Bernie Sanders. But my quarrel with liberals does not lie in ideological differences; I feel their treatment of what they call “TERFs” is misogynistic at best and a vicious silencin... | >To that, I say, why are the liberals then more furious over a small fringe group of feminists than republicans
Because they aren't? I don't know how anyone could think this unless they're terminally online. Most liberal outrage has been thrust at the trans military ban and bathroom bills and the latest push to ban he... | I think you have two different points in here. Sending death threats to a TERF... or to a Republican... or to basically anyone is absolutely wrong and should be condemned.
Vilifying them is another thing. If someone is actively choosing to promote and enact legislation specifically to deny me rights on something, wha... | mv0iyy | CMV: The liberal left’s treatment of “TERF”s is NOT justified. | I’m going to start by saying I am not conservative - I’m further left than Bernie Sanders. But my quarrel with liberals does not lie in ideological differences; I feel their treatment of what they call “TERFs” is misogynistic at best and a vicious silencing tactic at worst.
There is more of an out-roar against TERFs ... | 1,618,953,085 | vanillaandjasmine | gv93mhg | gv90wj3 | 12 | 8 |
CMV: Being old enough to have your own child means you're old enough to elect to get a surgical procedure to prevent having a child
I was speaking with a friend that frequents /r/childfree (as do I) and he, a recent college grad, doesn't want to have kids. He's in his early 20s. He approached his GP to discuss this an... | Girls as young as six years old have given birth. It's rare, so let's say that the average woman can give birth at 11. That's still very very young for an elective procedure. I don't think it's really fair to ask an imprecise question and then change it when you realize you messed up.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubm... | There was a law in NC like that, 25 yrs old or already had 2 children. I had my son when I was 20 and I begged and pleaded with the nurses to sterilize me, but they refused, due to these laws. I NEVER wanted to have another child, but 10 yrs later, I changed my mind. It is frustrating that you cant have control of your... | e26xy4 | CMV: Being old enough to have your own child means you're old enough to elect to get a surgical procedure to prevent having a child | I was speaking with a friend that frequents /r/childfree (as do I) and he, a recent college grad, doesn't want to have kids. He's in his early 20s. He approached his GP to discuss this and the GP refused due to my friend's age and experience.
So...you mean to tell me someone that has been physically capable of creatin... | 1,574,811,848 | cloverskull | f8u32j3 | f8u1yfe | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Inheritance should not be taxed.
In many countries around the world, inheritance is taxed. I personally think that this is not right as the person who has died and passed on his/her money to their heir has (in most cases) been paying tax on their wealth for their whole life. Why should this money be taxed again j... | First off, I 100% agree with you, but these are fun and intelligent discussion promotes learning for everyone - so I'll play devil's advocate.
In the US, my county, you are allowed a lifetime giving exemption of over 5M. So careful estate planning can avoid much of this tax. Addionally, charitable giving in your wil... | You would choose to buy a car. That person did not choose to die. It feels like you are paying the government because you died and I don't think that is right. | 86sq5s | CMV: Inheritance should not be taxed. | In many countries around the world, inheritance is taxed. I personally think that this is not right as the person who has died and passed on his/her money to their heir has (in most cases) been paying tax on their wealth for their whole life. Why should this money be taxed again just because it has changed hands. Peopl... | 1,521,894,651 | jamesdtgoddard | dw7jmhm | dw7jh9l | 2 | 0 |
CMV: allowing trans people to compete in womens events will only marginalize women
I've been doing some reading about how transgender female people are competing in women sports events. In the majority of cases, they tend to do pretty well. Unsurprisingly. However, there's a big difference between barely winning and t... | > I linked a story about 2 transgender sprinters competing at state in track and field - they won first and second by an enormous margin, which is a theme that holds when it comes to the issue as a whole.
That was about high school sports. If you think that the question of trans women is the only problem you have ther... | Can I ask what your solution to this would be?
If we banned trans women from competing against cis women due to the advantages they may have gained while living prior to transition, who should they compete against? Should they compete in the men's category, where the process of their transitioning actively gives them ... | b3r4u5 | CMV: allowing trans people to compete in womens events will only marginalize women | I've been doing some reading about how transgender female people are competing in women sports events. In the majority of cases, they tend to do pretty well. Unsurprisingly. However, there's a big difference between barely winning and totally dominating, which is what seems to be happening. I linked a story about 2 tra... | 1,553,178,277 | CafeConLecheLover | ej1mv3y | ej1jvmc | 101 | 11 |
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