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CMV: Tom Clancy's: Rainbow Six Siege is the best FPS on the market.
Siege is a phenomenal tactical FPS. It's been on the market since December of 2015 and has had a steady playerbase, and constant updates to bring in new players and keep the old. No other AAA title has a "true" 1 shot headshot kill mechanic like Siege... | About every serious FPS has had 1-shot headshots, though.
And what's more about Siege - have you experienced "peeker's advantage"? As in shit-ass networking code that lets people shoot you practically before you see them. Or if you're running away from someone, you'll see yourself behind the wall as you die. But on th... | First, your counter argument against using money as a measure is flawed, CrossFire released in 2007, several years before R6S. Hype is more likely to be a factor in Rainbow Six Seige’s success than anything. Second, No Man’s Sky grossing alot of money (I couldn’t find info in how much money it grossed to confirm your c... | 86tb33 | CMV: Tom Clancy's: Rainbow Six Siege is the best FPS on the market. | Siege is a phenomenal tactical FPS. It's been on the market since December of 2015 and has had a steady playerbase, and constant updates to bring in new players and keep the old. No other AAA title has a "true" 1 shot headshot kill mechanic like Siege. On top of that there's the destructive factor the game features. Yo... | 1,521,901,391 | Suhhbaru | dw7qd37 | dw7q0zj | 6 | 1 |
CMV: School is completely pointless in modern times.
Let the kids play and be happy while they don’t have a job. There was a time where being a robot and doing exactly as you were told with no initiative whatsoever was useful, now these anthropomorphized robots are being substituted by real robots, and it’s the school... | School is not just about learning facts. It's about teaching cognitive skills that can be used in other areas. Most high school education is fairly basic but children, even teenagers and sometimes young adults, are not generally full equipped to teach themselves these skills in an unstructured fashion.
To use your ex... | Most high school curriculums (at least the one's I know of) place more value on critical thinking, rather than regurgitation of facts. Although, the latter does happen.
I think it's good to have a holistic approach to education, at least to an extent. The passions and pursuits of 12 year old me, certainly wouldn't ha... | 94iaen | CMV: School is completely pointless in modern times. | Let the kids play and be happy while they don’t have a job. There was a time where being a robot and doing exactly as you were told with no initiative whatsoever was useful, now these anthropomorphized robots are being substituted by real robots, and it’s the schools fault for not letting them think freely.
Let me li... | 1,533,379,651 | dabausman | e3l7sde | e3l70el | 4 | 3 |
CMV: The death of Makiyah Bryant is a poor example of police brutality and systemic racism in the US.
The media is reporting the death of a black 16-year-old girl, Makiyah Bryant, by a white cop and associating it with the Chauvin verdict on the same day. The intent here is clear: to portray this as another incident o... | What I’m trying to say is, it’s very difficult to attribute ALL black deaths by cops as a result of systemic racism. | If black people get killed at disproportionate rates but justified most of the time then maybe it's not the cops fault. | mvbr5s | CMV: The death of Makiyah Bryant is a poor example of police brutality and systemic racism in the US. | The media is reporting the death of a black 16-year-old girl, Makiyah Bryant, by a white cop and associating it with the Chauvin verdict on the same day. The intent here is clear: to portray this as another incident of police brutality and systemic racism.
However, shooting Makiyah Bryant was justified. She was lungin... | 1,618,996,381 | KoreanStudentDoctor | gvbpda2 | gvbbsty | 58 | 5 |
CMV: Giant burgers that people cannot feasibly bite into are bad.
Burgers should have all their layers be able to be bitten into at once. The burger should be constructed with complementary flavors, and its size should facilitate that.
If a burger wanted people to have bits and pieces of its parts in every bite, why... | I think this view is continued by the lack of understanding in the purpose of the skewer. The skewer is exactly for this purpose. Of course there is a limit to bite size but I routinely see people complaining about an unwieldy burger falling to pieces *after taking the skewer out.* Of course, ultimately you do not have... | >except that a cake is meant to be cut into pieces, while a burger is not.
just because you can get away with eating a burger in bites, it doesn't mean it's the ONLY way you're meant to eat it
i seen people eat burgers and sandwiches by cutting them with a knife and using a fork, because it keeps shit on its place mo... | 86u7zl | CMV: Giant burgers that people cannot feasibly bite into are bad. | Burgers should have all their layers be able to be bitten into at once. The burger should be constructed with complementary flavors, and its size should facilitate that.
If a burger wanted people to have bits and pieces of its parts in every bite, why not just make a salad instead? Salads are respectable, and they do... | 1,521,909,906 | scratchedhead | dw88xge | dw87j6u | 19 | 4 |
CMV: Being banned from a subreddit is not censorship
Time and again, I see redditors reacting to being banned or to having their posts or comments deleted by claiming they are being censored.
Now, I'm willing to accept that the meaning of words can change and that just because "censorship" has traditionally meant the... | By defining “censorship” as “abiding by a forum’s rules,” you’re effectively setting the definition to apply to your view.
Censorship is understandably tricky. The most important thing to look at is intent - why was the content removed? Was it to suppress a different point of view? Or perhaps information that threaten... | The only reason I can see it being comparable is in thr case of the gay wedding cake fiasco where the rational behind the decision in general is that if there is no where to go because everyone discriminates then its not fair to the person that has been discriminated against same with reddit
if I want to talk golf bu... | 79aaqi | CMV: Being banned from a subreddit is not censorship | Time and again, I see redditors reacting to being banned or to having their posts or comments deleted by claiming they are being censored.
Now, I'm willing to accept that the meaning of words can change and that just because "censorship" has traditionally meant the suppression of speech by the government that the mean... | 1,509,199,936 | Literally_Herodotus | dp0hq9n | dp0e3q5 | 7 | 1 |
CMV: I don't understand why people are still talking about the recent tragedies in New Zealand, when people seem to stop talking about school shootings within the first few (3 or so) days.
Everybody is still continuing to speak about the recent tragedy in New Zealand, and yes it is very unfortunate this happened and n... | People spoke about the very prominent mass shootings in florida and las vegas for several weeks. However, mass shootings in the US happen regularly (if you take some definitions for a mass shooting, almost every few days) and there are almost no policy changes, even with very large bodycounts.
In NZ, the last mass sho... | I mean there are a whole lot of other undercurrents along with it. The facebook livestream and the meme ridden manifesto all pile into what can be talked about. People, and news, are looking for a reason this happened and there is a lot of content out there that gives possible reasons. But part of the issue is that the... | b3w12v | CMV: I don't understand why people are still talking about the recent tragedies in New Zealand, when people seem to stop talking about school shootings within the first few (3 or so) days. | Everybody is still continuing to speak about the recent tragedy in New Zealand, and yes it is very unfortunate this happened and nobody should ever have to experience that, however, I do think it is a little odd people are still talking about it, meanwhile, when school shootings happen, people seem to stop talking abou... | 1,553,202,426 | _LumbeR | ej2kxvj | ej2kq61 | 6 | 0 |
CMV: Guns are actually pro-feminist and pro-women's safety.
Doesn't the use of guns for self defense actually help women because it equalizes any weight or height advantage an attacker might have on the woman? Same with small men vs big men. If you're a small man or woman and you're being attacked by a 6'5 250lb guy, ... | [Statistically, women with access to firearms are more likely to become homicide victims than women without access to firearms.](https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/02/having-a-gun-in-the-house-doesnt-make-a-woman-safer/284022/) This probably has to do with the fact that women are more likely to be murder... | Feminism isn't about killing men.
The legal use of a gun is a life or death self defense situation. Not just any old attack. If a woman's boyfriend hits her, for example, she can't just shoot him. He has to be directly threatening her life. And as it happens, female victims of domestic violence are more likely to die ... | 86hn30 | CMV: Guns are actually pro-feminist and pro-women's safety. | Doesn't the use of guns for self defense actually help women because it equalizes any weight or height advantage an attacker might have on the woman? Same with small men vs big men. If you're a small man or woman and you're being attacked by a 6'5 250lb guy, there's almost nothing you can do to stop him in a life and d... | 1,521,775,248 | SocialJusticeTemplar | dw55pmt | dw55okg | 14 | 9 |
CMV: Being old enough to have your own child means you're old enough to elect to get a surgical procedure to prevent having a child
I was speaking with a friend that frequents /r/childfree (as do I) and he, a recent college grad, doesn't want to have kids. He's in his early 20s. He approached his GP to discuss this an... | I am pro choice and this would include a man wanting a procedure to not have children as long as they are legally old enough. It’s their body. It’s their choice. If they change their mind later it’s on them.
The flip side is a doctor shouldn’t be forced to do a procedure they don’t want to. If his dr believes he’s ma... | Sorry, u/LegacyOfBob – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 1:
> **Direct responses to a CMV post must challenge at least one aspect of OP’s stated view (however minor), or ask a clarifying question**. Arguments in favor of the view OP is willing to change must be restricted to replies to other comments. [S... | e26xy4 | CMV: Being old enough to have your own child means you're old enough to elect to get a surgical procedure to prevent having a child | I was speaking with a friend that frequents /r/childfree (as do I) and he, a recent college grad, doesn't want to have kids. He's in his early 20s. He approached his GP to discuss this and the GP refused due to my friend's age and experience.
So...you mean to tell me someone that has been physically capable of creatin... | 1,574,811,848 | cloverskull | f8u55du | f8twptq | 3 | 1 |
CMV: allowing trans people to compete in womens events will only marginalize women
I've been doing some reading about how transgender female people are competing in women sports events. In the majority of cases, they tend to do pretty well. Unsurprisingly. However, there's a big difference between barely winning and t... | You should listen to this. https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/dutee it's about Olympian Dutee Chand and gives a history of the "gender test" in the Olympics. Why not let everyone compete and just have rules around which group you compete in. These rules will change as we learn more and more about gender and make it more... | https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/99434993/professor-of-physiology-says-trans-athlete-has-advantage-in-speed-and-power
TLDR: MTF athletes might have a competitive advantage because even with testosterone blockers and the two years of hormone therapy, their testosterone levels are 3x the maximum allowed for a he... | b3r4u5 | CMV: allowing trans people to compete in womens events will only marginalize women | I've been doing some reading about how transgender female people are competing in women sports events. In the majority of cases, they tend to do pretty well. Unsurprisingly. However, there's a big difference between barely winning and totally dominating, which is what seems to be happening. I linked a story about 2 tra... | 1,553,178,277 | CafeConLecheLover | ej1wl0l | ej1qd0d | 1 | -2 |
CMV: School is completely pointless in modern times.
Let the kids play and be happy while they don’t have a job. There was a time where being a robot and doing exactly as you were told with no initiative whatsoever was useful, now these anthropomorphized robots are being substituted by real robots, and it’s the school... | Ill give you one reason. Im a history teacher by trade, though i no longer work as a teacher.
My focus is in the civip war and slavery. Theres not many people i find in my daily life outside universities who know more about this topic than i do. I say this so you know my background a little bit.
In a recent intervie... | School is not just about learning facts. It's about teaching cognitive skills that can be used in other areas. Most high school education is fairly basic but children, even teenagers and sometimes young adults, are not generally full equipped to teach themselves these skills in an unstructured fashion.
To use your ex... | 94iaen | CMV: School is completely pointless in modern times. | Let the kids play and be happy while they don’t have a job. There was a time where being a robot and doing exactly as you were told with no initiative whatsoever was useful, now these anthropomorphized robots are being substituted by real robots, and it’s the schools fault for not letting them think freely.
Let me li... | 1,533,379,651 | dabausman | e3l8krq | e3l7sde | 8 | 4 |
CMV: For some high profile cases, jurors should remain anonymous forever
Obviously, this CMV is in reference to the George Floyd trial going on right now. I learned that even though the jurors are anonymous now, eventually their names will come out. I just don't understand how a jury in cases such as these can ever be... | But you can't keep things secret in reality so these secret court jury members could be disappeared by people connected to the secret judges and lawyers and no one would no why and there would be no outrage. | I agree that in this case, this would be prudent and should overwrite the normal laws.
However in general, for most high profile cases, as long as there is no credible threat of physical harm like there is in this case, making this information public makes sense like you mentioned.
We don't need to have a one-rule-fi... | mv05cw | CMV: For some high profile cases, jurors should remain anonymous forever | Obviously, this CMV is in reference to the George Floyd trial going on right now. I learned that even though the jurors are anonymous now, eventually their names will come out. I just don't understand how a jury in cases such as these can ever be impartial given that there could be consequences against them and their f... | 1,618,952,047 | ronhamp225 | gv8ynrt | gv8yibf | 65 | 7 |
CMV:Roz should have ended up with Bulldog in Frasier
They have a similar lack of shame, and they both have a promiscuous streak. That, combined with the obvious chemistry, makes for a decent couple. Add in Bulldogs' nannying ability and Roz's dedication to the arts of lovemaking and they should have made it for the ... | I think actually every character in Frasier is not supposed to ever be happy. Look at the cast. You've got Frasier. You've got Niles. I'm not sure what to say on Daphne. You've got the dad. You've got evil witch lady (Maris?). It's a show about how people are broken.
Bulldog is this kind of misogynistic sexually inap... | This is where I have to quietly sneak away from this discussion because I stopped watching during season 8 cause the writing got so bad...
Thanks for a nice discussion though :) | 94bb9e | CMV:Roz should have ended up with Bulldog in Frasier | They have a similar lack of shame, and they both have a promiscuous streak. That, combined with the obvious chemistry, makes for a decent couple. Add in Bulldogs' nannying ability and Roz's dedication to the arts of lovemaking and they should have made it for the long haul.
The only reason that they were seperate... | 1,533,315,514 | poidipoidi | e3k860h | e3jw0q7 | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Being banned from a subreddit is not censorship
Time and again, I see redditors reacting to being banned or to having their posts or comments deleted by claiming they are being censored.
Now, I'm willing to accept that the meaning of words can change and that just because "censorship" has traditionally meant the... | The work of your argument seems to be in denying that redditors who claim to have been censored are, in truth, only being moderated.
Censorship is the removal of speech because the ideas expressed are objectionable to the censor. Where objectionable should be read to connote a kind of judgement on the value or quality... | The only reason I can see it being comparable is in thr case of the gay wedding cake fiasco where the rational behind the decision in general is that if there is no where to go because everyone discriminates then its not fair to the person that has been discriminated against same with reddit
if I want to talk golf bu... | 79aaqi | CMV: Being banned from a subreddit is not censorship | Time and again, I see redditors reacting to being banned or to having their posts or comments deleted by claiming they are being censored.
Now, I'm willing to accept that the meaning of words can change and that just because "censorship" has traditionally meant the suppression of speech by the government that the mean... | 1,509,199,936 | Literally_Herodotus | dp0frbg | dp0e3q5 | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The Pro-Choice movement is INCREDIBLY flawed in arguments and isn't productive as a result.
Starting off, a few disclaimers. I'm a cisgender guy, this is purely a suggestion, and it's not my place to tell people with uteruses what they can or cannot do. Second, this is NOT to talk about abortion itself. I myself ... | I feel like you are _really_ strawmaning pro-choice groups here. The arguments you've put forward are gross oversimplifications of the pro-choice position, and any argument will seem half-baked if you don't put it forward in full.
>What should be done is to explain why abortion is NOT murder.
They do - frequently. ... | Do we think the pro-life side is using more nuanced, less emotional rhetoric on some significantly larger level?
Because if you think neither side is being productive because they're not logical enough, that's one argument. But if you think *only pro-choice* people are unproductive due to their emotional rather than l... | muvffw | CMV: The Pro-Choice movement is INCREDIBLY flawed in arguments and isn't productive as a result. | Starting off, a few disclaimers. I'm a cisgender guy, this is purely a suggestion, and it's not my place to tell people with uteruses what they can or cannot do. Second, this is NOT to talk about abortion itself. I myself am pro-choice, but I'm not here to discuss abortion itself. If you're going to reply don't talk ab... | 1,618,939,285 | LeftyLore | gv84x1v | gv84nww | 31 | 2 |
CMV: Teachers should have a degree in the subject they teach not education.
What surprised me to learn after graduating high school was the fact that my teachers did not have a degree in what they taught. What did my history, physics, health, and civics teacher have in common?
They all had the same degree. This leav... | Could I ask where you're from? Different states and different teaching schools have different requirements. The school I went to you had to double major so you had to major in English and major in education if you were going to be a teacher. It's also worth noting that teachers have to take tests, like Praxis or the MT... | Here is how it works at the university I went to. You need 124 hours to graduate and they are divided *approximately* this way, of course it varies a bit by subject.
- 40 hours of general education
- 54 hours in the major + related subjects
- 30 hours of minor + electives
For teachers the 30 hours of minor/electives... | 86nw5p | CMV: Teachers should have a degree in the subject they teach not education. | What surprised me to learn after graduating high school was the fact that my teachers did not have a degree in what they taught. What did my history, physics, health, and civics teacher have in common?
They all had the same degree. This leaves the vast majority of teachers at best dabblers in the subject they are in ... | 1,521,837,201 | ConfusingZen | dw6vfhb | dw6qlno | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Being old enough to have your own child means you're old enough to elect to get a surgical procedure to prevent having a child
I was speaking with a friend that frequents /r/childfree (as do I) and he, a recent college grad, doesn't want to have kids. He's in his early 20s. He approached his GP to discuss this an... | Human female brains aren't fully developed until about age 22 and male brains until around 25. Your views and perspective will change a lot for a long time after that. A procedure to remove your ability to have children is permanent, even more so than a tattoo, and has the side effect of never being able to have childr... | I think 18-21 is still too young to decide something so permanent as being sterilised. Im 26 and a completely different person to who I was when I was 18-21. I barely recognise that person, plus our brains don't stop growing until we are 25, so from a logical medical standpoint permanent decisions like this should only... | e26xy4 | CMV: Being old enough to have your own child means you're old enough to elect to get a surgical procedure to prevent having a child | I was speaking with a friend that frequents /r/childfree (as do I) and he, a recent college grad, doesn't want to have kids. He's in his early 20s. He approached his GP to discuss this and the GP refused due to my friend's age and experience.
So...you mean to tell me someone that has been physically capable of creatin... | 1,574,811,848 | cloverskull | f8u2izx | f8tzfo2 | 86 | 2 |
CMV: there are possible utopias
Sorry for vague title but it's commonly accepted that utopias can never be a reality and they become dystopias. However I don't think that is entirely true. I can think of two types of utopias that actually seem to be perfect.
1. Removing negative emotion: If the parts of the brain res... | Let's start here. Utopias aren't possible because that's what utopia means. They are a mix of eutopia and outopia, meaning 'good place' and 'no place' respectively.
But okay, moving on and semantics aside, the real reason a perfect society isn't possible is that perfection isn't possible. The two options you presente... | My point is that is it really a utopia if it doesn’t stand up to scrutiny without mass brainwashing? Furthermore doesn’t this prove the only way to create a pseudo utopia is through tyranny. | e237bh | CMV: there are possible utopias | Sorry for vague title but it's commonly accepted that utopias can never be a reality and they become dystopias. However I don't think that is entirely true. I can think of two types of utopias that actually seem to be perfect.
1. Removing negative emotion: If the parts of the brain responsible for receiving negative t... | 1,574,797,228 | romancandle4 | f8t8g8h | f8t85ae | 10 | 2 |
CMV: Sexual inexperience prevents you so much from doing sex that not mentionning it or lying about your virginity is a more effective way to get laid
One friend of mine recently lost his virginity after long years of actively looking for a sex friend. The reason he didn't have any success in that regard is that he wa... | I would attempt to change your view based upon the long-term effect. In general, this topic is often more of a reflection on a small sampling of people there are 7 billion of us on this planet 49% of which are women. Some people care about this trivial status while others don't.
However, I can say that whether you li... | While this may be the case with one night stands or hook ups (which makes sense) it’s not the case for many relationships.
It’s much less about your sexual experience and more about how attractive you are and your personality.
This is only true if all you’re after is sex | muw534 | CMV: Sexual inexperience prevents you so much from doing sex that not mentionning it or lying about your virginity is a more effective way to get laid | One friend of mine recently lost his virginity after long years of actively looking for a sex friend. The reason he didn't have any success in that regard is that he was too honest about him being a virgin. He told me many stories of girls he had chat-up that went pretty good until he told them about his sexual inexper... | 1,618,941,162 | Fony64 | gv8agn0 | gv899lc | 7 | 4 |
CMV: Being old enough to have your own child means you're old enough to elect to get a surgical procedure to prevent having a child
I was speaking with a friend that frequents /r/childfree (as do I) and he, a recent college grad, doesn't want to have kids. He's in his early 20s. He approached his GP to discuss this an... | I'll offer an example that I went through.
At twelve the ball on top of my femur 'slipped,' a pin was put in to hold it in place, a year later it was removed. A lack of blood supply while it was detached led to avascular necrosis, and the ball collapsed to a ragged mushroom. It will not heal on its own,... | I didn't want children at 20, at 26 I definitely do. Thats anecdotal but everyone is different at 20 to how they are at 30, priorities are different and your brain is different!
Studies now suggest that your brain doesnt stop growing until you are over 25, so big life decisions like getting sterilised for life should ... | e26xy4 | CMV: Being old enough to have your own child means you're old enough to elect to get a surgical procedure to prevent having a child | I was speaking with a friend that frequents /r/childfree (as do I) and he, a recent college grad, doesn't want to have kids. He's in his early 20s. He approached his GP to discuss this and the GP refused due to my friend's age and experience.
So...you mean to tell me someone that has been physically capable of creatin... | 1,574,811,848 | cloverskull | f8u1nw3 | f8tz058 | 511 | 41 |
CMV: Anti-white racism isn't taken seriously enough.
To start I'd like to say, yes, I am white. I hope that doesn't devalue my opinion.
If I say "I hate black people" on Reddit, Facebook, whatever I will receive ENORMOUS amounts of backlash and may be deleted. But just go to r/TumblrInAction and you will find no sho... | I don't know if this will change your view, but here is my take:
The racism against whites you describe, I view as 'passive racism'; while what is said is racist in nature, it is not directly impacting them. It is more of just being offended because there are now racial AND non-racial stereotypes forming for whites, c... | >I mean, how many videos and articles do I have to link to you of white people calling the cops on black people just for existing?
And there's your problem. You're under the impression that coverage of black/white issues is proportional to their actual occurrence. It's not. It does make for good ratings. I'll give you... | 94jml8 | CMV: Anti-white racism isn't taken seriously enough. | To start I'd like to say, yes, I am white. I hope that doesn't devalue my opinion.
If I say "I hate black people" on Reddit, Facebook, whatever I will receive ENORMOUS amounts of backlash and may be deleted. But just go to r/TumblrInAction and you will find no shortage of people saying "stupid white people". I think ... | 1,533,393,938 | mossypiglet1 | e3lwnno | e3lkt5e | 13 | 3 |
CMV: Elon Musk is from the future and has gone back in time to save us from our AI overlords
Almost every invention or project that Elon has put time or money into is something that would be extremely useful in the event of a robot takeover. Elon has also said numerous times that he fears artificial intelligence and h... | >electric cars can't run on solar panels in that way. There is that much energy in su light.
Can you show me the physics here? also we have the energy that can be generated from the wheels turning going downhill.
>Hyper loop doesn't actually work. The design originally proposed is non functional.
Explain?
>He is... | An AI takeover might not look like what you're imagining. AI are designed to optimize very well, and any AI that was advanced enough to pose a genuine threat would probably use more insidious and effective tactics than "build an army or robots".
Let's do a bit of speculation, just for fun. Imagine, for instance, how e... | e27xca | CMV: Elon Musk is from the future and has gone back in time to save us from our AI overlords | Almost every invention or project that Elon has put time or money into is something that would be extremely useful in the event of a robot takeover. Elon has also said numerous times that he fears artificial intelligence and has done several seminars on the problems it could bring about. So let's go through some of his... | 1,574,816,186 | Diylion | f8u4ydd | f8u27gr | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The Pro-Choice movement is INCREDIBLY flawed in arguments and isn't productive as a result.
Starting off, a few disclaimers. I'm a cisgender guy, this is purely a suggestion, and it's not my place to tell people with uteruses what they can or cannot do. Second, this is NOT to talk about abortion itself. I myself ... | > What should be done is to explain why abortion is NOT murder.
This line of argumentation is *purely* axiomatic. There are countless examples of where life begins or doesn't begin in numerous hypothetical scenarios that are all relevant to the discussion. Ultimately this is just an explanatory gap. You cannot logic s... | >What the argument sounds like to pro-lifers is "It's my kid, I can kill it if I want to." Now, if you hear this, obviously you'll disagree, and therefore end up pro-life. What should be done is to explain why abortion is NOT murder. My body my choice is good, but explain why it is your choice.
Is the goal of the pro-... | muvffw | CMV: The Pro-Choice movement is INCREDIBLY flawed in arguments and isn't productive as a result. | Starting off, a few disclaimers. I'm a cisgender guy, this is purely a suggestion, and it's not my place to tell people with uteruses what they can or cannot do. Second, this is NOT to talk about abortion itself. I myself am pro-choice, but I'm not here to discuss abortion itself. If you're going to reply don't talk ab... | 1,618,939,285 | LeftyLore | gv8c06e | gv85ddt | 3 | 2 |
CMV: you can’t be racist towards white people
A quick disclaimer: I am white myself and I am open to new ideas and ways to think about this topic. So my view is that you can’t be racist toward white people as a whole, only prejudiced. My reasoning is that white isn’t really a race, more of a skin color. You can be rac... | I think this is purely a question of definitions. If “racism” means “discrimination or prejudice directed toward a racial group,” you can be racist against white people, because white people are a racial group. If “racism” means “discrimination or prejudice directed at a weaker group by a group that is systematically... | Yes you can. Calling someone white trash is racist and as bad as other slurs. | a84xg9 | CMV: you can’t be racist towards white people | A quick disclaimer: I am white myself and I am open to new ideas and ways to think about this topic. So my view is that you can’t be racist toward white people as a whole, only prejudiced. My reasoning is that white isn’t really a race, more of a skin color. You can be racist towards specific groups, like how hitler wa... | 1,545,355,420 | imliljuul | ec7ze3s | ec7z462 | 4 | 1 |
CMV: The average person is pretty bad at formal logic and this is having terrible consequences in society
Let me start by saying that I don't pretend to be a paragon of logic and reasoning. However I have a degree in CS and a minor in math and I earn my keep doing math (geometry mostly). That doesn't mean I know anyth... | I don't think the issue is formal logic. I would propose that the problem is being wrong in public.
Sidebar- was watching Star Trek TNG, and it surprised me the number of times that Picard yells at Riker, not for being wrong, but for disagreeing with him in public. "If you have any concerns you tell me privately, you... | Apart from the fact that you are wrong about the infinite monkeys (that _isn't_ necessarily how infinity works), pretty much nothing you are talking about in your post is related to formal logic.
* Your monkey example is about probability, not logic. The only relation to logic is that if you had tried to write out you... | e27faz | CMV: The average person is pretty bad at formal logic and this is having terrible consequences in society | Let me start by saying that I don't pretend to be a paragon of logic and reasoning. However I have a degree in CS and a minor in math and I earn my keep doing math (geometry mostly). That doesn't mean I know anything at all, it doesn't mean I am smart, it doesn't mean that I am an expert in any of the issues I talk abo... | 1,574,813,949 | camilo16 | f8u0bc2 | f8tzl5t | 11 | 8 |
CMV: It is ok to downvote something you disagree with
This stems from the people who always edit comments with "really downvotes?" Or "downvotes for having an opinion?"
The way I see it, the upvote/downvote system Reddit has reflects a like/dislike system. If I enjoy something, I laugh at something or I agree with so... | Consider it from a consequentialist view. What effect does the down vote have?
In most cases, it reduces the visibility of the comment or post. You won't look at it again, so it's really about how other people experience the thread/sub.
Thus, when you down vote something, you are saying it's not worth other people's ... | I think downvotes are warranted if the user is being unnecessarily rude or crass.
There are instances when someone is expressing a well-thought out opinion that may not jive with the sub’s focus, in which case a downvote my not always be warranted. For example there is an Apple sub I’ll browse and if someone were to... | 94f6vi | CMV: It is ok to downvote something you disagree with | This stems from the people who always edit comments with "really downvotes?" Or "downvotes for having an opinion?"
The way I see it, the upvote/downvote system Reddit has reflects a like/dislike system. If I enjoy something, I laugh at something or I agree with something I give it and upvote.
Therefore if I see somet... | 1,533,344,709 | Foamtastic | e3km5pw | e3km1c3 | 71 | 5 |
CMV: If you play games, you're a gamer, and to say otherwise is just needless gatekeeping
Note that I'm talking specifically about video games here, because that's where this sort of discourse is most prevalent, but the argument could be expanded to any sort of game, because I see similar sorts of gatekeeping happen i... | > If you play games, you're a gamer
While I understand this sentiment is probably coming from an anti-gatekeeping perspective, I also think forced labels on people who don't want them are in some ways just as problematic as gatekeeping.
If someone plays a little candy crush each day and you call them a gamer despite ... | Definition 2 of a "gamer" in Mirriam Webster is:
>[A person who plays games.](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gamer)
You are indeed missing something. The trolls.
People who say "You're a gamer, name every game" are doing so in one of two ways:
\- Being competitive (You're not as MUCH of a gamer as I am.... | mv2hyu | CMV: If you play games, you're a gamer, and to say otherwise is just needless gatekeeping | Note that I'm talking specifically about video games here, because that's where this sort of discourse is most prevalent, but the argument could be expanded to any sort of game, because I see similar sorts of gatekeeping happen in e.g. tabletop gaming spaces as well.
This seems obvious to me, but there are many people... | 1,618,958,811 | [deleted] | gv9g96j | gv9fei4 | 18 | 1 |
CMV: A non-black person having an afro is not cultural appropriation as a haircut is not culturally exclusive
I should preface by saying I would just like to objectively understand the other sides arguments.
Recently i was told that by impersonating someone like Bob Ross with an afro, that this is would be cultural ... | Not my argument, but I can try to parrot something back to you.
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1) Since the 1960s (and even before then) African-Americans have been penalized for their manner of dress - be it their hair, their nails, their shirts or whatever. Black people have lost jobs, people have lost promotions, due to having "wrong ... | Are you suggesting that the standard of all circular curly hairstyles be referred to as "Afros" unless indicated otherwise? You are right that there are many different forms of curly hair, but does this mean that all curly circular hairstyles are "Afros" I'm struggle to imagine who would be confused by or require this ... | b3si2w | CMV: A non-black person having an afro is not cultural appropriation as a haircut is not culturally exclusive | I should preface by saying I would just like to objectively understand the other sides arguments.
Recently i was told that by impersonating someone like Bob Ross with an afro, that this is would be cultural appropriation and thus insensitive towards African American. I don't believe this is true because A. He is not ... | 1,553,185,209 | plazzman | ej20cdh | ej1zvjf | 17 | 1 |
CMV: Detoxing from hard drugs (e.g. cocaine) is not automatically praiseworthy
• In many cases, “hard” drugs are not widely available (unlike many other common addictive substances such as food, caffeine or internet, which are nearly ubiquitous). Therefore, in some cases, the person has gone and sought out the drug as... | Addicted people get positive feelings when they take their drug of choice. To kick their addiction, they need to re-program their brain so that they get positive feelings when they make good choices instead of turning to the drug. Getting positive feedback from others (in this case, praise) can help with this. There... | Are you saying that detoxing from hard drugs is never praiseworthy? | 9f5f2f | CMV: Detoxing from hard drugs (e.g. cocaine) is not automatically praiseworthy | • In many cases, “hard” drugs are not widely available (unlike many other common addictive substances such as food, caffeine or internet, which are nearly ubiquitous). Therefore, in some cases, the person has gone and sought out the drug as an adult/older teen while fully aware of the harm it can do (as opposed to bein... | 1,536,735,122 | mistrali2 | e5vb0ad | e5u6ov1 | 3 | 1 |
CMV: We don’t have free will, alternate universes can’t exist, and fate could be real
No, this isn’t multiple CMVs in one because my reasoning is the same for each of these, convince me my reason for one of them is wrong and you’ve convinced me the others are too.
So what is the reason behind these three statements?... | If we extend your argument to the very first event -- the beginning of the universe -- the universe would expand as a perfect, featureless sphere after the big bang. No stars, no planets, no life, no humans. It's random fluctuations that give rise to these things. Some people believe that our free will is a manifestati... | I guess it was inevitable that you couldn't control your urge to post 3 different topics instead of one at a time. | 799jda | CMV: We don’t have free will, alternate universes can’t exist, and fate could be real | No, this isn’t multiple CMVs in one because my reasoning is the same for each of these, convince me my reason for one of them is wrong and you’ve convinced me the others are too.
So what is the reason behind these three statements? I’ll explain, but it'll take a while.
**Free Will & The Big Idea**
Let’s say... | 1,509,188,497 | YourKingofTheWorld | dp09a1t | dp08xmm | 3 | 1 |
CMV: Wanting to be called "they" rather than he or she is unreasonable.
I am a teaching assistant and last week I referred to a student as "she". This student looks like a girl, dresses like a girls, speaks like a girl, etc. and has a very feminine name. However, she called me out for assuming her gender and told me s... | They is an accepted and common gender neutral singular pronoun, although we are most familiar with it in written language, not spoken language. That being said, I understand the frustration to an extent. I know a person who is very similar: their gender presentation is, if not conventionally feminine, at least readably... | The English language is constantly evolving and changing based on how it's used by people. Many things which are now considered "correct" were at one point improper.
In this situation, the student in question has a problem: they do not associate either as exclusively male or female, yet the typical language usage *req... | 79a1v4 | CMV: Wanting to be called "they" rather than he or she is unreasonable. | I am a teaching assistant and last week I referred to a student as "she". This student looks like a girl, dresses like a girls, speaks like a girl, etc. and has a very feminine name. However, she called me out for assuming her gender and told me she is both a boy and a girl and would like me to call her "they." I am as... | 1,509,196,651 | FlashYourHeroes | dp0bfca | dp0aj7q | 1,090 | 52 |
CMV: We don’t have free will, alternate universes can’t exist, and fate could be real
No, this isn’t multiple CMVs in one because my reasoning is the same for each of these, convince me my reason for one of them is wrong and you’ve convinced me the others are too.
So what is the reason behind these three statements?... | ∆ Since it’s become clear that I’m wrong.
I figured there was no way none of the professionals on this topic wouldn’t have come up with a reason against my claims, but I couldn’t figure out the reason, which was why I made the CMV(Ok, maybe I kinda hoped I hopped upon an undiscovered gold mine, and that’s pretty ignor... | If we extend your argument to the very first event -- the beginning of the universe -- the universe would expand as a perfect, featureless sphere after the big bang. No stars, no planets, no life, no humans. It's random fluctuations that give rise to these things. Some people believe that our free will is a manifestati... | 799jda | CMV: We don’t have free will, alternate universes can’t exist, and fate could be real | No, this isn’t multiple CMVs in one because my reasoning is the same for each of these, convince me my reason for one of them is wrong and you’ve convinced me the others are too.
So what is the reason behind these three statements? I’ll explain, but it'll take a while.
**Free Will & The Big Idea**
Let’s say... | 1,509,188,497 | YourKingofTheWorld | dp09pwa | dp09a1t | 8 | 3 |
CMV: Economics isn't a rigorous discipline. There's too much disagree at high levels for any of it to be considered 'true'.
I'm sure at the basic levels we know things about economics but it seems like as soon as someone becomes an 'economist' at a high level it's very ideologically driven. How is there so much disagr... | >I'm sure at the basic levels we know things about economics but it seems like as soon as someone becomes an 'economist' at a high level it's very ideologically driven. How is there so much disagreement in this discipline? Economists can't come to agreements on most important issues like: is the national debt in the US... | I'd agree there is no objective 'right answer' when it comes to economics. However, there are real life examples we can learn from.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_experiment
We can also use examples like that and other data and information to figure out who is not acting in bad faith. Some people's version of e... | muw1fa | CMV: Economics isn't a rigorous discipline. There's too much disagree at high levels for any of it to be considered 'true'. | I'm sure at the basic levels we know things about economics but it seems like as soon as someone becomes an 'economist' at a high level it's very ideologically driven. How is there so much disagreement in this discipline? Economists can't come to agreements on most important issues like: is the national debt in the US ... | 1,618,940,896 | DJMM9 | gv88y1g | gv880i6 | 9 | 1 |
CMV: Pointing out “your” and “you’re” isn’t elitist.
From a discussion I’ve had recently about the future of language. Certain parts of grammar (mostly revolving around apostrophes) are becoming less and less common and I was lamenting it, who which a friend replied “when is it ever unclear? We can understand what peo... | So of there exists two forms of English based on how formal or deliberate you’re being... doesn’t that just make the language even more complicated? | Ah right, I thought they had to have different pronunciation as well. Cool, guess I learned something! | d016e5 | CMV: Pointing out “your” and “you’re” isn’t elitist. | From a discussion I’ve had recently about the future of language. Certain parts of grammar (mostly revolving around apostrophes) are becoming less and less common and I was lamenting it, who which a friend replied “when is it ever unclear? We can understand what people mean when it’s said, we could understand it when i... | 1,567,691,920 | Tack22 | ez4w7qd | ez4vtki | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Free Will does not Exist
I know this CMV has been posted a thousand times, but few of them seem to address the simple fact that everything in the world is governed by the laws of physics, which means our brains would be too.
Firstly, I would define free will as the ability to think and make decisions based purel... | There are a lot of people here, who are implying that you are attacking a strawman. They are incorrect - however, it is important to get our semantics correct.
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There are three philosophical camps about Free Will - 1) Libertarians - who assert we have Free Will in the manner you describe and are simply wrong... | >Firstly, I would define free will as the ability to think and make decisions based purely through ones self, and not being dictated by any outside factors, including the laws of physics.
And there's your problem. Find even one person who believes in free will that defines it this way.
No one talking about free will ... | b3ku2a | CMV: Free Will does not Exist | I know this CMV has been posted a thousand times, but few of them seem to address the simple fact that everything in the world is governed by the laws of physics, which means our brains would be too.
Firstly, I would define free will as the ability to think and make decisions based purely through ones self, and not be... | 1,553,133,996 | bimbimbap2222 | ej0mvxj | ej0feza | 3 | 2 |
CMV: The left (US Politics) needs better name branding
By "name branding" I mean name and recognition without any ties to platform or what they stand for. Here are my views on how appealing the icons, symbols, and name branding between the right and the left are to the general public in US politics:
**Right vs Left*... | This whole argument is pretty silly. These titles have existed for a long time and I doubt it would be useful to change them. Part of names isn't just their connotation but how well they are recognized. As a result, changing one of these names may just confuse people and lead to less clear recognition.
Let's look at ... | Sorry, u/got_some_tegridy – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 3:
> **Refrain from accusing OP or anyone else of being unwilling to change their view, or of arguing in bad faith**. Ask clarifying questions instead (see: socratic method). If you think they are still exhibiting poor behaviour, please mes... | l1gyn1 | CMV: The left (US Politics) needs better name branding | By "name branding" I mean name and recognition without any ties to platform or what they stand for. Here are my views on how appealing the icons, symbols, and name branding between the right and the left are to the general public in US politics:
**Right vs Left**
"Right" has the exact same spelling as the word "righ... | 1,611,172,322 | RedditExplorer89 | gjze6cu | gjzbl6p | 4 | 1 |
CMV: Economics isn't a rigorous discipline. There's too much disagree at high levels for any of it to be considered 'true'.
I'm sure at the basic levels we know things about economics but it seems like as soon as someone becomes an 'economist' at a high level it's very ideologically driven. How is there so much disagr... | Typically, at the forefront, where all things are still unanswered yet, there tend to be disagreement, in any field.
> Economists can't come to agreements on most important issues like: is the national debt in the US an issue? If not when will it become an issue?
Importance has nothing to do with disagreement. Disagr... | I'd agree there is no objective 'right answer' when it comes to economics. However, there are real life examples we can learn from.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_experiment
We can also use examples like that and other data and information to figure out who is not acting in bad faith. Some people's version of e... | muw1fa | CMV: Economics isn't a rigorous discipline. There's too much disagree at high levels for any of it to be considered 'true'. | I'm sure at the basic levels we know things about economics but it seems like as soon as someone becomes an 'economist' at a high level it's very ideologically driven. How is there so much disagreement in this discipline? Economists can't come to agreements on most important issues like: is the national debt in the US ... | 1,618,940,896 | DJMM9 | gv8abp9 | gv880i6 | 7 | 1 |
CMV: As an artist, you shouldn't get upset at the audience if they enjoy your "lesser" work better.
To be honest I forgot the specific examples that prompted this post. But basically, some artist online had made a quick, low-effort piece for fun and was calling people rude because they said they preferred it to the ar... | There's one reason I can think of why it's okay if they're upset.
Imagine being an artist, creating a ton of art that truly represents you but gets no attention, and then doing a one-off silly, low effort piece that becomes a hit or goes viral or whatever that makes you famous.
Then everyone associates your name with... | Art is among the most personal of social interactions. The artist inevitably, no matter what the style or medium, is sharing something about themselves in a very precious way and in very public fashion.
As a result, it is not surprising that artists have a wide range of really intense emotions about not just their wor... | 10welar | CMV: As an artist, you shouldn't get upset at the audience if they enjoy your "lesser" work better. | To be honest I forgot the specific examples that prompted this post. But basically, some artist online had made a quick, low-effort piece for fun and was calling people rude because they said they preferred it to the artist's other, more ambitious projects. I've also seen similar reactions when people preferred the bet... | 1,675,807,403 | ButItWasMeDio | j7mvoqp | j7moh19 | 13 | 3 |
CMV: We don’t have free will, alternate universes can’t exist, and fate could be real
No, this isn’t multiple CMVs in one because my reasoning is the same for each of these, convince me my reason for one of them is wrong and you’ve convinced me the others are too.
So what is the reason behind these three statements?... | Actually, it's physically impossible for all 3 to be true. Sorry to go deep so fast here but I'm a physicist. I'll try to keep it light.
When you say "alternate universes can't exist," I think of [many worlds interpretation](https://goo.gl/500J9Y) of Quantum mechanics.
The thing is, we know some stuff from physics.... | I guess it was inevitable that you couldn't control your urge to post 3 different topics instead of one at a time. | 799jda | CMV: We don’t have free will, alternate universes can’t exist, and fate could be real | No, this isn’t multiple CMVs in one because my reasoning is the same for each of these, convince me my reason for one of them is wrong and you’ve convinced me the others are too.
So what is the reason behind these three statements? I’ll explain, but it'll take a while.
**Free Will & The Big Idea**
Let’s say... | 1,509,188,497 | YourKingofTheWorld | dp097h7 | dp08xmm | 16 | 1 |
CMV: Wanting to be called "they" rather than he or she is unreasonable.
I am a teaching assistant and last week I referred to a student as "she". This student looks like a girl, dresses like a girls, speaks like a girl, etc. and has a very feminine name. However, she called me out for assuming her gender and told me s... | I think them "calling you out" for "assuming" their gender was uncalled for. However, if they had politely said "Hey, I don't identify as female, could you please refer to me as 'they'?" do you think it would be more palatable to you?
I have a friend who came out as non-binary last year and prefers they/them/their(s) ... | The English language is constantly evolving and changing based on how it's used by people. Many things which are now considered "correct" were at one point improper.
In this situation, the student in question has a problem: they do not associate either as exclusively male or female, yet the typical language usage *req... | 79a1v4 | CMV: Wanting to be called "they" rather than he or she is unreasonable. | I am a teaching assistant and last week I referred to a student as "she". This student looks like a girl, dresses like a girls, speaks like a girl, etc. and has a very feminine name. However, she called me out for assuming her gender and told me she is both a boy and a girl and would like me to call her "they." I am as... | 1,509,196,651 | FlashYourHeroes | dp0coeq | dp0aj7q | 376 | 52 |
CMV: Women who sexualize themselves and use their sex appeal to advance their careers in fields where sex appeal isn't a fundamental part, are hurting the women's movement, and should be discouraged from doing so.
So in light of stuff like the #MeToo movement, many women are tired of being objectified, and being see s... | There's the collectivist way of looking at it, where you can see a woman like Miley Cyrus calling herself a feminist but also using her body and sexuality in ways that reinforce the stereotypical nymphet who men objectify, and some can see that as setting the movement back.
But there's also the individualist perspecti... | > More specifically, what made me think of this, is a recently popular female semi\-professional golfer by the name of Paige Spiranac. To put it bluntly, she is REALLY hot: Pretty blonde woman with skinny waist, voluptuous hindquarters, and ample bosom. Your pretty much textbook example of a "smoke show", and she ... | 8os9od | CMV: Women who sexualize themselves and use their sex appeal to advance their careers in fields where sex appeal isn't a fundamental part, are hurting the women's movement, and should be discouraged from doing so. | So in light of stuff like the #MeToo movement, many women are tired of being objectified, and being see solely as sex objects. Rightfully so, they want to be judged on their other merits, and not be seen just as a sex object for men's gaze. However, when attractive women purposely sexualize and objectify themselves t... | 1,528,216,521 | Justgoahead123 | e05pq4d | e05pq08 | 6 | 4 |
CMV: The Prophet Muhammad, claimed under Islam as the Most Moral of All Men, was a child rapist.
The hadiths make it clear that he took his wife Aisha for marriage when she was 6. Many Muhammad apologists try to say she was actually much older and the Hadiths in question can't be trusted since they aren't "the word of... | Ok a lot of ppl here are spreading misinformation about the age of aisha. So I'm gonna clarify.
Muslims do not actually know aishas age of marriage.
there is largely no hadiths bar few lines of transmission reported something like 200 years after that she was 9 in marriage and 11 in consummation. those are generally... | Conclusions
In conclusion, the assumption that the ḥadīth of ʿĀʾisha’s age can be disputed based on the indecency of child marriage is invalid because the concept of childhood did not exist during their time, the age of puberty for some girls was the age of nine, and their culture was simply different. The claims that... | mvqyoq | CMV: The Prophet Muhammad, claimed under Islam as the Most Moral of All Men, was a child rapist. | The hadiths make it clear that he took his wife Aisha for marriage when she was 6. Many Muhammad apologists try to say she was actually much older and the Hadiths in question can't be trusted since they aren't "the word of Allah".. even though many are first hand accounts of the girl herself. By following the logic tha... | 1,619,043,608 | Drewsef916 | gvewrc2 | gveu1c2 | 44 | 1 |
CMV: Individual people make far too drastically different wages and this can be mitigated through an extreme tax system
(I'm in the usa)
[most of us have probably seen this before](https://daks2k3a4ib2z.cloudfront.net/56b26b90d28b886833e7a055/56bb9c8d0758a4b421ea812d_wealth-inequality.jpg)
Which I'll just provide to... | I think the fundamental flaw in your proposal is the artificial devaluation of skilled/experienced labor. Let's use the example of a consumer electronics company vs. a translation-scribe company. They may both require a receptionist on the lower end of the pay scale, but their higher end pay would be drastically differ... | You are mentioning an "extreme" tax system, so I thought it would also be "extreme" smaller steps?
I think the danger the I generally see is that there will be a "sweet spot" for a career. A point where it's not worth doing more because the reward is not worth the investment.
You also didn't answer my first question:... | 6qa0m6 | CMV: Individual people make far too drastically different wages and this can be mitigated through an extreme tax system | (I'm in the usa)
[most of us have probably seen this before](https://daks2k3a4ib2z.cloudfront.net/56b26b90d28b886833e7a055/56bb9c8d0758a4b421ea812d_wealth-inequality.jpg)
Which I'll just provide to basically show the root of my issue. There is a surplus of money, and the wealthiest hold it. And it's my observation th... | 1,501,318,951 | blkwiy | dkvpre2 | dkvpi7m | 13 | 8 |
CMV: We don’t have free will, alternate universes can’t exist, and fate could be real
No, this isn’t multiple CMVs in one because my reasoning is the same for each of these, convince me my reason for one of them is wrong and you’ve convinced me the others are too.
So what is the reason behind these three statements?... | So, I think you are wrong in requiring all 3 of these to be joined together. We have some great physicist comments here answering especially your second section, but I have some stuff for your free will section, which actually isn’t made false by the existence of randomness and chaos.
What you are referring to is det... | Well it's important we dont go into extremes, its obvious we aren't trully ,,free". Here is interesting analogy.
I heard a story about a man coming to one of the prophet Muhammad's pbuh sucessors and asking if we are predetermined or are we free, and the sucessor told him to raise the right leg, so he did, and then he... | 799jda | CMV: We don’t have free will, alternate universes can’t exist, and fate could be real | No, this isn’t multiple CMVs in one because my reasoning is the same for each of these, convince me my reason for one of them is wrong and you’ve convinced me the others are too.
So what is the reason behind these three statements? I’ll explain, but it'll take a while.
**Free Will & The Big Idea**
Let’s say... | 1,509,188,497 | YourKingofTheWorld | dp0cm5m | dp0brlp | 2 | 1 |
CMV: It is hypocritical, inconsistent, and unfair to defend people who wear hijabs and condemn people who use the Confederate flag (and vise versa, but that's a somewhat less common occurrence, at least in the media).
This is kind of a specific juxtaposition, and the reason it's the one I'm using is because it's the o... | > This is already problematic and oppressive to women as an ideal in and of itself
I don't see the hijab as the source of that. It's a cultural modesty standard. Many US states have *laws* that women can't walk around in public topless. In many ways, that is a similar type of restriction in our own culture. Americ... | A hijab is religious. Just because you see that religion/practice as oppressive doesn't entitle you to oppress that religion. Many of them practice their religion, and wear their hijabs, with complete religious sincerity, i.e. voluntarily. Telling them not to wear a religious item is textbook religious oppression.
I t... | eqrk8z | CMV: It is hypocritical, inconsistent, and unfair to defend people who wear hijabs and condemn people who use the Confederate flag (and vise versa, but that's a somewhat less common occurrence, at least in the media). | This is kind of a specific juxtaposition, and the reason it's the one I'm using is because it's the one that came up in my discussion today, but to generalize, my thought is this:
If you decide that symbols need to be morally evaluated based on historical context, you need to be consistent in that judgement.
That ... | 1,579,406,842 | a_scared_bear | fewbazk | fewa85v | 14 | 6 |
CMV: Tomato juice is the ultimate pairing with BBQ flavours
Ok hear me out on this one. Tomato juice, for those who have not tasted it, is nothing like marinara sauce or tomato passata.
BBQ is all about maximizing sweetness, umami flavour, and smokiness. Naturally, a good drink to be paired with it should represent... | In my experience, bourbon pairs excellently with barbecue. That's why you'll often find it as an ingredient in sauces and meat rubs. | It’s too much like diluted bbq sauce on ice. You want a refreshing contrast, that cleanses and gets you ready for a fresh hit of rich spicy sweet bbq. | eqvsid | CMV: Tomato juice is the ultimate pairing with BBQ flavours | Ok hear me out on this one. Tomato juice, for those who have not tasted it, is nothing like marinara sauce or tomato passata.
BBQ is all about maximizing sweetness, umami flavour, and smokiness. Naturally, a good drink to be paired with it should represent these flavours as much as possible. Red wine is typically pa... | 1,579,437,744 | Poo-et | feyarvm | fey8eek | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Depression, anxiety and other mental health issues especially among Gen Z and Millennials, has began to be treated lightly and too often thrown around & glorified/romanticized.
Purely from my observations especially on social media, so many people within the Millennial-Gen Z age range have been treating topics of... | That is very true, thank you. But I've considered that maybe it adds to the misconceptions around it?
Like maybe skewed/inaccurate understanding of mental illnesses/health issues - like treating them lightly through memes - is something that lets impressionable young teens feel like it is something to be desired rathe... | Normalizing it de-stigmatizes it and makes it easier for people to seek / accept treatment... isn’t that a good thing?
Most conditions related to mental health are behavioral classifications and on a spectrum, so I don’t quite get the gate keeping on severity and frustration with self diagnosis.
On some level, the ... | l1egov | CMV: Depression, anxiety and other mental health issues especially among Gen Z and Millennials, has began to be treated lightly and too often thrown around & glorified/romanticized. | Purely from my observations especially on social media, so many people within the Millennial-Gen Z age range have been treating topics of mental illnesses like depression & anxiety too lightly.
I have no intention to say them saying they have depression/anxiety/other mental illnesses is not valid, especially those tha... | 1,611,165,453 | felicityaerie | gjyyhgk | gjyy7s5 | 43 | 1 |
CMV: The Republican party hasn't swung to the right as much as the Democratic party has swung left. (USA politics)
In 1996, most Democrats (and Republicans) were pro border walls and against gay marriage. Nowadays Democrats have abandoned their previous positions in favor of more progressive ones, but I constantly hea... | You are both somewhat right and somewhat wrong, and there are quite a few caveats to consider:
First of all, 1996 may not be the best starting position, as the "[Republican Revolution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Revolution)" during the midterms of 1994 has arguably shifted the Republicans to the right a... | [https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-republican-party-has-changed-dramatically-since-george-h-w-bush-ran-it/](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-republican-party-has-changed-dramatically-since-george-h-w-bush-ran-it/)
>Ideology is complicated to measure. By some standards, the Republican Party has moved t... | e22txu | CMV: The Republican party hasn't swung to the right as much as the Democratic party has swung left. (USA politics) | In 1996, most Democrats (and Republicans) were pro border walls and against gay marriage. Nowadays Democrats have abandoned their previous positions in favor of more progressive ones, but I constantly hear the talk about how far to the right Republicans have moved. I'm not seeing the alleged swing. Now Donald Trump is ... | 1,574,795,723 | Sgt_Spatula | f8tk2jd | f8tc1dm | 10 | 7 |
CMV: It is hypocritical, inconsistent, and unfair to defend people who wear hijabs and condemn people who use the Confederate flag (and vise versa, but that's a somewhat less common occurrence, at least in the media).
This is kind of a specific juxtaposition, and the reason it's the one I'm using is because it's the o... | Accusations double standards are fine I guess, but it kind of means that the whole argument is supported by equating two things that may or may not be equivalent. So, the risk of false equivalence fallacy is extremely high, since your entire argument condenses to "Confederates did bad things and Muslims did bad things,... | > This is already problematic and oppressive to women as an ideal in and of itself
I don't see the hijab as the source of that. It's a cultural modesty standard. Many US states have *laws* that women can't walk around in public topless. In many ways, that is a similar type of restriction in our own culture. Americ... | eqrk8z | CMV: It is hypocritical, inconsistent, and unfair to defend people who wear hijabs and condemn people who use the Confederate flag (and vise versa, but that's a somewhat less common occurrence, at least in the media). | This is kind of a specific juxtaposition, and the reason it's the one I'm using is because it's the one that came up in my discussion today, but to generalize, my thought is this:
If you decide that symbols need to be morally evaluated based on historical context, you need to be consistent in that judgement.
That ... | 1,579,406,842 | a_scared_bear | fewfa6v | fewbazk | 19 | 14 |
CMV: Depression, anxiety and other mental health issues especially among Gen Z and Millennials, has began to be treated lightly and too often thrown around & glorified/romanticized.
Purely from my observations especially on social media, so many people within the Millennial-Gen Z age range have been treating topics of... | I mean, I’ve been institutionalized for mental illness in a psychiatric hospital before. We joked about our illnesses all the time. Some aspects of mental illness are inherently funny - like, for example, not being able to have shoelaces to prevent self harm. Like, who would hurt themselves with a shoelace?
When peop... | Normalizing it de-stigmatizes it and makes it easier for people to seek / accept treatment... isn’t that a good thing?
Most conditions related to mental health are behavioral classifications and on a spectrum, so I don’t quite get the gate keeping on severity and frustration with self diagnosis.
On some level, the ... | l1egov | CMV: Depression, anxiety and other mental health issues especially among Gen Z and Millennials, has began to be treated lightly and too often thrown around & glorified/romanticized. | Purely from my observations especially on social media, so many people within the Millennial-Gen Z age range have been treating topics of mental illnesses like depression & anxiety too lightly.
I have no intention to say them saying they have depression/anxiety/other mental illnesses is not valid, especially those tha... | 1,611,165,453 | felicityaerie | gjz01ua | gjyy7s5 | 27 | 1 |
CMV: When someone discloses their abuse or sexual assault, the correct response is to believe and support them.
Essentially, my view is "Always believe survivors" - a refrain I often see dismissed and argued against on reddit. I don't understand why.
This is of course a generalization. There are some circumstances wh... | Well the only time this even comes up as an issue is when one party denies the accusation. Are you saying that based on an accusation alone you would decide that someone you know is a rapist, even if he or she denied it, and regardless of what you now about this person and the accuser?
It is terrible and wrong when p... | There is a big difference in lending support to an individual base solely anecdotal information, and to charge someone with a crime based solely on anecdotal information.
In the first case it would be rude and irresponsible to ignore a cry for help from a friend or even just someone on the street. But when you want to... | e20v2j | CMV: When someone discloses their abuse or sexual assault, the correct response is to believe and support them. | Essentially, my view is "Always believe survivors" - a refrain I often see dismissed and argued against on reddit. I don't understand why.
This is of course a generalization. There are some circumstances where skepticism is warranted or support should be restricted;
* If you are a judge, juror, or responding officer ... | 1,574,787,920 | nuclearthrowaway1234 | f8st8i9 | f8st4p9 | 44 | 2 |
CMV: Women who sexualize themselves and use their sex appeal to advance their careers in fields where sex appeal isn't a fundamental part, are hurting the women's movement, and should be discouraged from doing so.
So in light of stuff like the #MeToo movement, many women are tired of being objectified, and being see s... | Two quick things. 1.) This is not a settled idea among feminists and a lot of them agree with you for exactly the reasons you are giving. 2.) It kind of is a fundamental part of her career right? We are talking about her right now and athletes are more famous and make more money if they are sex symbols.
That said, I ... | The way I see it, a fully liberated woman can do with her body anything and everything she pleases. To say she shouldn't behave sexually when she doesn't "need to" deprives her of a right and privilege that is already afforded to men. \(Granted, I'm not saying that dressing sexy in all jobs is appropriate, but in cases... | 8os9od | CMV: Women who sexualize themselves and use their sex appeal to advance their careers in fields where sex appeal isn't a fundamental part, are hurting the women's movement, and should be discouraged from doing so. | So in light of stuff like the #MeToo movement, many women are tired of being objectified, and being see solely as sex objects. Rightfully so, they want to be judged on their other merits, and not be seen just as a sex object for men's gaze. However, when attractive women purposely sexualize and objectify themselves t... | 1,528,216,521 | Justgoahead123 | e05snq0 | e05s1jb | 276 | 165 |
CMV: Women who sexualize themselves and use their sex appeal to advance their careers in fields where sex appeal isn't a fundamental part, are hurting the women's movement, and should be discouraged from doing so.
So in light of stuff like the #MeToo movement, many women are tired of being objectified, and being see s... | I totally get what you are saying, that women want to be able to control when they are sexualized and when they aren't.
But I guess the thing that I am having trouble understanding is that when a woman uses her sex appeal to help her professional career, how does that not reinforce to the greater world and society tha... | Who are you to tell a woman what she can and can't do with her body. Saying that women shouldn't wear a certain type of clothing or act a certain way (outside a professional setting of course) is anti-femist. It's similar to how some "feminists" criticize women who **choose** to be stay at home moms. Feminist shoul... | 8os9od | CMV: Women who sexualize themselves and use their sex appeal to advance their careers in fields where sex appeal isn't a fundamental part, are hurting the women's movement, and should be discouraged from doing so. | So in light of stuff like the #MeToo movement, many women are tired of being objectified, and being see solely as sex objects. Rightfully so, they want to be judged on their other merits, and not be seen just as a sex object for men's gaze. However, when attractive women purposely sexualize and objectify themselves t... | 1,528,216,521 | Justgoahead123 | e05rnap | e05peax | 2 | -5 |
CMV: The use of the word "trap" isn't used as a derogatory term for transfolk as often as people like to think, and I think the word means something in an entirely different context when most people use it in the mainstream.
Warning: I am a straight man with ingrained societal beliefs I am trying to work out of, so if... | I have never heard trap used the way you use it. It's always a reference to transgender women in my experience (from the US).
That being said, I would like to put forward the example of the Holocaust. Holocaust comes from a Greek word meaning a "wholly burnt sacrifice to a god". A lot of people take offense to that te... | > However, I was a bit disappointed by the lack of focus on the word itself and the context of how it is used
It's absolutely discussed in the video, what're you talking about? You just have a single context that wasn't discussed that I'd disagree is an actual context.
>Because I honestly believe "trap" in the sense ... | b3qss7 | CMV: The use of the word "trap" isn't used as a derogatory term for transfolk as often as people like to think, and I think the word means something in an entirely different context when most people use it in the mainstream. | Warning: I am a straight man with ingrained societal beliefs I am trying to work out of, so if I come off as a bit ignorant, sorry.
This was brought about by Contrapoints video on traps.
First off, I want to say that I enjoy her videos a LOT. I love her verbose dialogue, open-mindedness in all issues, unique outlooks... | 1,553,176,461 | CarnivorousL | ej1iqiz | ej1f8fe | 3 | 1 |
CMV: People get into fitness not for health but for personal appearance and sexual appeal.
I'm going to say this goes specifically to men, from what I've seen in personal experiences and heard from friends experience. First, let's separate fitness from sports. Everyone agrees that doing sports is good for your health... | This is a destructive attitude that a lot of unfit/unhealthy people have. By telling yourself that fitness is just about vanity, you allow yourself to feel morally superior in your inactivity and unhealthy lifestyle. “I may not be able to run a mile, but at least I’m not a self-absorbed prick.”
In truth, the vast majo... | I exercise because it helps my sport. I like to snowboard, and I found that by not being in good shape it's a lot harder and not near as much fun.
On top of that, I have co-workers who don't exercise. That single flight of stairs hits them hard. Dudes 10 years younger than myself having constant pain or problems tell... | l1b5h2 | CMV: People get into fitness not for health but for personal appearance and sexual appeal. | I'm going to say this goes specifically to men, from what I've seen in personal experiences and heard from friends experience. First, let's separate fitness from sports. Everyone agrees that doing sports is good for your health and can increase your life expectancy. Wether it's soccer, swimming or a martial art you ar... | 1,611,155,854 | arnodorian96 | gjyg23n | gjydoa7 | 10 | 1 |
CMV: People get into fitness not for health but for personal appearance and sexual appeal.
I'm going to say this goes specifically to men, from what I've seen in personal experiences and heard from friends experience. First, let's separate fitness from sports. Everyone agrees that doing sports is good for your health... | What about the fact that being very fit is many times not seen as sexy by most people?
Specially in women, strong arms, marked abs and wide shoulders are not commonly seen as sexy in the western female beauty canon, so why do women that build muscles to that point do it if they are "uglier" (at least uglier than if t... | I exercise because it helps my sport. I like to snowboard, and I found that by not being in good shape it's a lot harder and not near as much fun.
On top of that, I have co-workers who don't exercise. That single flight of stairs hits them hard. Dudes 10 years younger than myself having constant pain or problems tell... | l1b5h2 | CMV: People get into fitness not for health but for personal appearance and sexual appeal. | I'm going to say this goes specifically to men, from what I've seen in personal experiences and heard from friends experience. First, let's separate fitness from sports. Everyone agrees that doing sports is good for your health and can increase your life expectancy. Wether it's soccer, swimming or a martial art you ar... | 1,611,155,854 | arnodorian96 | gjyfxuh | gjydoa7 | 14 | 1 |
CMV: Women who sexualize themselves and use their sex appeal to advance their careers in fields where sex appeal isn't a fundamental part, are hurting the women's movement, and should be discouraged from doing so.
So in light of stuff like the #MeToo movement, many women are tired of being objectified, and being see s... | The way I see it, a fully liberated woman can do with her body anything and everything she pleases. To say she shouldn't behave sexually when she doesn't "need to" deprives her of a right and privilege that is already afforded to men. \(Granted, I'm not saying that dressing sexy in all jobs is appropriate, but in cases... | There's the collectivist way of looking at it, where you can see a woman like Miley Cyrus calling herself a feminist but also using her body and sexuality in ways that reinforce the stereotypical nymphet who men objectify, and some can see that as setting the movement back.
But there's also the individualist perspecti... | 8os9od | CMV: Women who sexualize themselves and use their sex appeal to advance their careers in fields where sex appeal isn't a fundamental part, are hurting the women's movement, and should be discouraged from doing so. | So in light of stuff like the #MeToo movement, many women are tired of being objectified, and being see solely as sex objects. Rightfully so, they want to be judged on their other merits, and not be seen just as a sex object for men's gaze. However, when attractive women purposely sexualize and objectify themselves t... | 1,528,216,521 | Justgoahead123 | e05s1jb | e05pq4d | 165 | 6 |
CMV: Public land grant colleges should not be become more selective
I talked with a coworker yesterday about college admissions, and he told me he didn’t apply to our state’s public college out of fear that he wouldn’t get in. I wouldn’t say my school is elite or anything. It does its job. The job of a public land gra... | >I don’t understand the increasing selectivity of these schools.
The population of the United States has grown, and with it the number of people applying to college. The area of the campus of these schools has not grown at nearly the same rate, which limits the size of the class they can enroll. So it's natural that a... | Most states have a network of colleges that ensure accessibility for all students. Why is it important that the land grant school remain open if lower-achieving students still have other good-quality options? | l1fqz0 | CMV: Public land grant colleges should not be become more selective | I talked with a coworker yesterday about college admissions, and he told me he didn’t apply to our state’s public college out of fear that he wouldn’t get in. I wouldn’t say my school is elite or anything. It does its job. The job of a public land grant college is to educate the mass public. There should be kids of all... | 1,611,168,967 | heckdoggo111111 | gjz350b | gjz2zbc | 10 | 1 |
CMV: People get into fitness not for health but for personal appearance and sexual appeal.
I'm going to say this goes specifically to men, from what I've seen in personal experiences and heard from friends experience. First, let's separate fitness from sports. Everyone agrees that doing sports is good for your health... | Back when I was doing weight lifting and martial arts, before I had to stop due to injury, I certainly wasn't doing it to be more sexually attractive or for my personal appearance- I was an extreme introvert who was terrified of sex due to abuse issues. I was doing it because I enjoyed it, it felt good. That's it. In f... | Not sure if there is much sense in claiming a single universal reason why people do fitness
I doubt that most people just have a single reason to do it. There can be a multitude of factors why people choose going to the gym. For some trying to become more attractive might certainly be one of the reasons but it doesn't... | l1b5h2 | CMV: People get into fitness not for health but for personal appearance and sexual appeal. | I'm going to say this goes specifically to men, from what I've seen in personal experiences and heard from friends experience. First, let's separate fitness from sports. Everyone agrees that doing sports is good for your health and can increase your life expectancy. Wether it's soccer, swimming or a martial art you ar... | 1,611,155,854 | arnodorian96 | gjyeiys | gjy9vjp | 3 | 2 |
CMV: It's completely acceptable and understandable to not agree with homosexuality because of your religion.
I often find on the internet and in real life that people believe any person to disagree with being gay due to their religious beliefs is ignorant or a homophobe. I find this very odd because many religions spe... | Really depends how impartially the religious individual can remain. The negative feelings towards homosexuality do not operate in isolation, you may treat a person you know as homosexual well, however, if you do not approve of homosexuality as a concept, I cannot imagine such a person will be making much of a contribut... | Religion is not an acceptable excuse to hold racist/sexist/homophobic views.
Mormonism contained many anti-Black elements - and for that the entire religion and all who uphold it were rightly condemned. However, since the 1980s, they have toned it down, and thus the condemnation has also toned down.
Christianity an... | 8ojjk6 | CMV: It's completely acceptable and understandable to not agree with homosexuality because of your religion. | I often find on the internet and in real life that people believe any person to disagree with being gay due to their religious beliefs is ignorant or a homophobe. I find this very odd because many religions speak out directly about being homosexual and claim that it is a sin. Therefore, they could not agree with being ... | 1,528,136,267 | kingado08 | e050aph | e03xooq | 1 | 0 |
CMV: The Dodo is much more amazing than other extinct animals, an amazing symbol, and we should totally focus our effort on the Dodo instead of mammoth or other animals
Dear CMV,
The [Dodo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodo)^(wikipedia for the uninitiated) was an amazing bird. I'd like to point out why we^(1) should... | I would like to submit for consideration the [Steller's Sea Cow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steller%27s_sea_cow) \- giant, adorable plant eating sea mammals. They were up to about 9 meters long and fed on reeds in shallow water. Their gentle and docile nature was a major contributing factor to the whole being hunted... | Have you considered that peace is not everyone ideal ? Dodos went to extinction because they were not able to adapt to any new environment, so they will never bring any challenge to humanity.
If your goal is to provide a competitive environment for mankind so that we do not rot in decadence, luxury and pleasure, you ... | 8oqbdy | CMV: The Dodo is much more amazing than other extinct animals, an amazing symbol, and we should totally focus our effort on the Dodo instead of mammoth or other animals | Dear CMV,
The [Dodo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodo)^(wikipedia for the uninitiated) was an amazing bird. I'd like to point out why we^(1) should have a firm "Dodo first!" policy, and why we should primarily focus our de\-extinction efforts on the [bird go great magnificence](https://www.reddit.com/r/Dodos/) and n... | 1,528,200,962 | Audiomoderator | e059bz2 | e05956m | 13 | 2 |
CMV: People get into fitness not for health but for personal appearance and sexual appeal.
I'm going to say this goes specifically to men, from what I've seen in personal experiences and heard from friends experience. First, let's separate fitness from sports. Everyone agrees that doing sports is good for your health... | The issue with this question is you’re trying to prove a negative. If you make a statement like “people do X because of Y” if you can find one person who doesn’t do it because of Y, you’ve been proven wrong.
And no, that is far from the only reason, in fact I think it’s seen as a nice side effect more than anything e... | I exercise because it helps my sport. I like to snowboard, and I found that by not being in good shape it's a lot harder and not near as much fun.
On top of that, I have co-workers who don't exercise. That single flight of stairs hits them hard. Dudes 10 years younger than myself having constant pain or problems tell... | l1b5h2 | CMV: People get into fitness not for health but for personal appearance and sexual appeal. | I'm going to say this goes specifically to men, from what I've seen in personal experiences and heard from friends experience. First, let's separate fitness from sports. Everyone agrees that doing sports is good for your health and can increase your life expectancy. Wether it's soccer, swimming or a martial art you ar... | 1,611,155,854 | arnodorian96 | gjygy1e | gjydoa7 | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Don't look to schools to fix all the stuff parents fail to teach their children.
Who suggests adding additional stuff to school curriculums ( e.g. budgetting, healthy eating, etc) should accept that EITHER education gets more expensive and takes longer, OR regular subjects are partly sacrificed. If you are not w... | I would argue that an important part of Schools responsibilities is compensating for deficiencies in students home environment. If parents are uneducated, the school should be able to provide an equal education without expecting parents to be able to (knowledge wise) help out with home work. The same thing could maybe ... | I would say cooking is one of the more important skills actually.
If you can enjoy cooking you can eat healthier and cheaper, and that could have a profound effect on health and wealth as well as make you a more attractive partner.
I'd rather see, say, some of the history syllabus cut to make room for budgets, cooki... | eqv2iw | CMV: Don't look to schools to fix all the stuff parents fail to teach their children. | Who suggests adding additional stuff to school curriculums ( e.g. budgetting, healthy eating, etc) should accept that EITHER education gets more expensive and takes longer, OR regular subjects are partly sacrificed. If you are not willing to accept one of these results, don't go making schools responsible for all comm... | 1,579,432,293 | JulianMorrow | fexy8za | fexrq40 | 30 | 3 |
CMV: The left (US Politics) needs better name branding
By "name branding" I mean name and recognition without any ties to platform or what they stand for. Here are my views on how appealing the icons, symbols, and name branding between the right and the left are to the general public in US politics:
**Right vs Left*... | > Donkeys are not really seen as anything special
This is intentional. It fits with the common man image conjured up by the word "Democratic." If the Democrats used a special animal like a tiger then the common man imagery would be lost. A Democrat could argue that their symbol is actually better than the Republican e... | Your source only lists "Democrat Party" as a disparaging term, not Democrat. In fact, the secondary sources listed in that wikipedia article still uses Democrat as a term to describe individual supporters of the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party's website is literally democrats.org so clearly the word's use for it... | l1gyn1 | CMV: The left (US Politics) needs better name branding | By "name branding" I mean name and recognition without any ties to platform or what they stand for. Here are my views on how appealing the icons, symbols, and name branding between the right and the left are to the general public in US politics:
**Right vs Left**
"Right" has the exact same spelling as the word "righ... | 1,611,172,322 | RedditExplorer89 | gjzf8ov | gjzdi6g | 12 | 1 |
CMV: Conservatism is an inherently selfish and societally destructive political viewpoint.
Conservatives vote to cut taxes on the rich, to deny medical care to those who need it and cannot afford it (without going into insane debt), to deny the right to marry to some members of society, to deny a liveable minimum wage... | I’m a social liberal, economic conservatives, so I’ll just argue the Economic stuff.
Conservatives believe the free market is more effective at economic problem solving than than the often inefficient, bureaucratic government. If there’s a need, a business will pop up to fill it. If there’s an industry, competition w... | The point of being a conservative is to *conserve.*
Not every change is positive; in fact, the overwhelming majority of changes are negative. It is always easier to break something that works than it is to make something that works better than the most recent best try, and it is always more likely that a system that l... | b3vr37 | CMV: Conservatism is an inherently selfish and societally destructive political viewpoint. | Conservatives vote to cut taxes on the rich, to deny medical care to those who need it and cannot afford it (without going into insane debt), to deny the right to marry to some members of society, to deny a liveable minimum wage, to strip protections from those who need them, and actively obstruct the process to make v... | 1,553,201,046 | DoubleBThomas | ej2mfdd | ej2io4t | 7 | -1 |
CMV: People get into fitness not for health but for personal appearance and sexual appeal.
I'm going to say this goes specifically to men, from what I've seen in personal experiences and heard from friends experience. First, let's separate fitness from sports. Everyone agrees that doing sports is good for your health... | Fitness exercising, when done properly, allows you to have all your muscles physically fit.
Professional athletes are not fit just by practicing their sports. They go to the gym too.
Also, most sports are a competition against other players. Not everyone likes competition or putting their mind into a competition.
Go... | Not sure if there is much sense in claiming a single universal reason why people do fitness
I doubt that most people just have a single reason to do it. There can be a multitude of factors why people choose going to the gym. For some trying to become more attractive might certainly be one of the reasons but it doesn't... | l1b5h2 | CMV: People get into fitness not for health but for personal appearance and sexual appeal. | I'm going to say this goes specifically to men, from what I've seen in personal experiences and heard from friends experience. First, let's separate fitness from sports. Everyone agrees that doing sports is good for your health and can increase your life expectancy. Wether it's soccer, swimming or a martial art you ar... | 1,611,155,854 | arnodorian96 | gjymatq | gjy9vjp | 3 | 2 |
CMV: The Dodo is much more amazing than other extinct animals, an amazing symbol, and we should totally focus our effort on the Dodo instead of mammoth or other animals
Dear CMV,
The [Dodo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodo)^(wikipedia for the uninitiated) was an amazing bird. I'd like to point out why we^(1) should... | > Wouldn’t it be awesome to ride a mammoth pulled sled? The Dodo can’t do that.
I want to agree with you, but:
*imagine a sled pulled by 20 dodos*!
what do you say? does that beat the mammoth? | I dunno. If I get a choice, it would be far more awesome to go the way of the dodo. | 8oqbdy | CMV: The Dodo is much more amazing than other extinct animals, an amazing symbol, and we should totally focus our effort on the Dodo instead of mammoth or other animals | Dear CMV,
The [Dodo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodo)^(wikipedia for the uninitiated) was an amazing bird. I'd like to point out why we^(1) should have a firm "Dodo first!" policy, and why we should primarily focus our de\-extinction efforts on the [bird go great magnificence](https://www.reddit.com/r/Dodos/) and n... | 1,528,200,962 | Audiomoderator | e05o4ij | e05dej4 | 4 | 3 |
CMV: Touchscreens are a driving hazard
Look I'll be the first to admit that they're cool. They are.
But they make no sense.
If you can remember life before you had a touchscreen in your car, you can probably remember doing things like:
* Changing the volume on your radio
* Changing the station
* Adjusting the heat/... | At night they can be much easier to see then a button, especially if the dash lighting of your car is poor. | Just like you shouldn't text and drive, you shouldn't do absolutely anything that requires attention and drive, including changing the station or volume. If you need to do that, just wait for a red light or stop for a minute to do so. | l1ayxi | CMV: Touchscreens are a driving hazard | Look I'll be the first to admit that they're cool. They are.
But they make no sense.
If you can remember life before you had a touchscreen in your car, you can probably remember doing things like:
* Changing the volume on your radio
* Changing the station
* Adjusting the heat/defog/aircon
All without once looking a... | 1,611,155,288 | Ohigetjokes | gjy8bmi | gjy8b9o | 17 | 2 |
CMV: There is nothing wrong with JAV stars forming a Korean pop group
Recently a trio of female japanese porn stars debuted as a Kpop group. Most people are fine with this however there is a huge portion of people that are against it simply due to the fact that for some reason just because they happen to do porn, thes... | I think what you need to focus on is the 'Idol' aspect of Kpop. Members of kpop groups are usually called idols and there is some prejudice or distinction between an idol-singer and a singer. An idol-actress and an actress. When you sign up to be a kpop idol you've basically become a brand.
The brand has two parts:
... | Is the problem more that they're Japanese and performing K-pop? I could see that being an issue.
I could see how this upsets other artists, though. K-pop is still music, and the performers are considered singers, musicians, or song writers. That requires a lot of practice and they are artists that have worked on their... | 86kv2m | CMV: There is nothing wrong with JAV stars forming a Korean pop group | Recently a trio of female japanese porn stars debuted as a Kpop group. Most people are fine with this however there is a huge portion of people that are against it simply due to the fact that for some reason just because they happen to do porn, these should not be in Kpop because it may "influence" younger fans in nega... | 1,521,813,947 | daktoritang | dw5wtmp | dw5u6x8 | 6 | 1 |
CMV: Aggressive acceptance of gender identity issues can cause more harm than good.
EDIT: I came to reddit because I knew, somewhere, that I was arguing the wrong things. You guys have officially changed my mind (didn’t take long at all). Read the post, and then read my note at the bottom for info! :)
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>I do not believe that gender dysphoria is a mental illness.
Others have commented on this, and you have already acknowledged your view changed, but I wanted to put a pin on this point to reinforce it. Unless you are a mental health professional, you simply do not have the clout to designate what is and isn't a men... | I think you are confusing a correlation between gender dysphoria and mental health issues, with mental health issues causing gender dysphoria.
I am, by no means an expert, but the few articles I've read, suggest that the mental health issues, stem from the feeling of 'living a lie' for years or even decades. This mak... | d01df2 | CMV: Aggressive acceptance of gender identity issues can cause more harm than good. | EDIT: I came to reddit because I knew, somewhere, that I was arguing the wrong things. You guys have officially changed my mind (didn’t take long at all). Read the post, and then read my note at the bottom for info! :)
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I’ve been struggling with this one for a while. I want people to read it clearly, as ... | 1,567,692,860 | Rook_20 | ez5go57 | ez55w2c | 3 | 2 |
CMV: The NRA is not a domestic terrorist organization
Just today, the San Fransisco Board of Directors declared the NRA a domestic terrorist organization.
* [NY Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/us/san-francisco-nra-terrorist.html)
* [Fox News](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/san-francisco-board-brands-nra... | So fun fact: while terrorism is technically violence motivated by and in pursuit of politically ideological goals, there are multiple types of terrorism. Cyberterrorism, for example, involves no *physical* violence of any kind. The ultimate purpose of terrorism (and political terrorism in particular) is to strike *fear... | Wahhabism is an ultra-conservative sect of Salafism, which is a sect of Sunni Islam that is somewhat popular in Saudi Arabia. There are about 5 million adherents (out more than a billion Muslims). Wahhabism forms the ideological basis for both Al-Qaeda and ISIS.
In this way, Wahhabism isn't technically a terrorist org... | czvngx | CMV: The NRA is not a domestic terrorist organization | Just today, the San Fransisco Board of Directors declared the NRA a domestic terrorist organization.
* [NY Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/us/san-francisco-nra-terrorist.html)
* [Fox News](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/san-francisco-board-brands-nra-a-domestic-terrorist-organization)
* [WaPo](https://w... | 1,567,655,604 | ShowMeYourTiddles | ez439zl | ez2zy4l | 49 | 2 |
CMV: Aggressive acceptance of gender identity issues can cause more harm than good.
EDIT: I came to reddit because I knew, somewhere, that I was arguing the wrong things. You guys have officially changed my mind (didn’t take long at all). Read the post, and then read my note at the bottom for info! :)
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... | What is aggressive about this? It seems to be simply accepting someone is different. It's not like people are being forced to have gender reassignment surgery against their will.
Furthermore, it isn't really your place (generally) to be judging whether or not someone is suffering from mental illness. Certainly based o... | Even assuming for the sake of argument that there is a link to mental illness here, why would it follow that we should not use the pronouns people prefer?
Unless you are a medical professional treating that person, it is not your role to say what is best for them medically or act against their expressed wishes based o... | d01df2 | CMV: Aggressive acceptance of gender identity issues can cause more harm than good. | EDIT: I came to reddit because I knew, somewhere, that I was arguing the wrong things. You guys have officially changed my mind (didn’t take long at all). Read the post, and then read my note at the bottom for info! :)
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I’ve been struggling with this one for a while. I want people to read it clearly, as ... | 1,567,692,860 | Rook_20 | ez5011o | ez4zc2v | 19 | 3 |
CMV: It is hypocritical, inconsistent, and unfair to defend people who wear hijabs and condemn people who use the Confederate flag (and vise versa, but that's a somewhat less common occurrence, at least in the media).
This is kind of a specific juxtaposition, and the reason it's the one I'm using is because it's the o... | The problem is that saying that the Civil War happened because of "rebellion against The Man" is simply not true. That's just wrong. Numerous states specifically named slavery as a reason for secession ( [https://www.historynet.com/which-states-referred-to-slavery-in-their-cause-of-secession.htm](https://www.historynet... | There is a subtle nuance here that I think you're missing.
Objectively and culturally the confederate flag is associated directly with racism. There is ample historical and modern contextual evidence for this that I'm assuming we don't need to get into. Many of us, in light of that, tell people that if you want to... | eqrk8z | CMV: It is hypocritical, inconsistent, and unfair to defend people who wear hijabs and condemn people who use the Confederate flag (and vise versa, but that's a somewhat less common occurrence, at least in the media). | This is kind of a specific juxtaposition, and the reason it's the one I'm using is because it's the one that came up in my discussion today, but to generalize, my thought is this:
If you decide that symbols need to be morally evaluated based on historical context, you need to be consistent in that judgement.
That ... | 1,579,406,842 | a_scared_bear | fewdf7t | fewbd9o | 6 | 4 |
CMV: If Miguel from Pixar’s Coco wants to guarantee he will never be forgotten, and guarantee he will never disappear from the afterlife, he should become a serial killer.
Pixar’s Coco is a beautiful and moving movie with excellent music and cultural awareness. But it has a not very secret horrific side to it: when no... | A lot of people who murder, get caught. You're saying that it'd be 'easy' for Coco to become a once-in-a-generation serial killer who will live on in infamy. I'd posit that it'd be easier for him to become a famous musician, than it would for him to become a famous serial killer. | Should and could are very different. Many people in our world want to be famous or "make it big" but most don't consider murder as a method for it.
Besides, you need to have a family who puts up your portrait. Murderers and serial killers will most likely not have one. | 8osc0d | CMV: If Miguel from Pixar’s Coco wants to guarantee he will never be forgotten, and guarantee he will never disappear from the afterlife, he should become a serial killer. | Pixar’s Coco is a beautiful and moving movie with excellent music and cultural awareness. But it has a not very secret horrific side to it: when no one on earth remembers your name or who you are, you disappear and die a final death. It is unknown if there is another, double afterlife after this. This is terrifying, an... | 1,528,216,984 | CoolTom | e05u76u | e05pcpy | 3 | 2 |
CMV: asking people for the meaning of life is stupid and unnecessary
Humans has forever tried to find meaning in life by asking themselves and their surroundings for the meaning of life, this is in my opinion stupid. This is obviously not scientific, just philosophical but this is the scenario I have chosen to explain... | I will agree that the 'meaning' of one's life can only be answered by the individual whose life it is being queried, but with that being said, I would like to draw attention to the fact that the individual in question is only aware of what they're aware *of*. That is to say, they cannot see what they have not been show... | >You are misunderstanding what I am saying, if I was unclear, what I meant was that I had no science to back my claims up but that it was a philosophical argument, sorry for that.
No worries! But I don't think that was the crux of my response.
>I do not believe that people can have the exact same meaning with their l... | b3qj3c | CMV: asking people for the meaning of life is stupid and unnecessary | Humans has forever tried to find meaning in life by asking themselves and their surroundings for the meaning of life, this is in my opinion stupid. This is obviously not scientific, just philosophical but this is the scenario I have chosen to explain my thoughts: if you were to ask someone for the meaning of life and t... | 1,553,174,918 | FearOfGoogle | ej1k3hc | ej1dpys | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Bernie Sanders is not significantly more unelectable than any other Democrat running
In my life (and sometimes, though less, online) I hear a lot of people say that while they prefer Bernie Sanders, they don't want to support him in the primaries because they fear that he isn't as electable as other candidates, a... | The prediction markets do limit the amount of money you can bet l, which does sometimes create strange patterns. For a market to work (find fair probabilities) you need to allow free flow of money that does not exist here and that limits the accuracy of any one prediction.
I don’t think you are wrong about electabili... | The prediction markets are often very far off for politics.
This is both because people tend to bet with their heart favoring candidates like Trump and Sanders who have enthusiastic supporters and because people bet using conventional wisdom.
The people betting based on conventional wisdom are the reason that Sande... | eqrsrh | CMV: Bernie Sanders is not significantly more unelectable than any other Democrat running | In my life (and sometimes, though less, online) I hear a lot of people say that while they prefer Bernie Sanders, they don't want to support him in the primaries because they fear that he isn't as electable as other candidates, and (I'm interpolating a few of what I think to be their premises here) they think that sinc... | 1,579,408,223 | model_railroad_alt | fewgi0a | fewg2xg | 2 | 1 |
CMV: If Brexit doesn't happen we have made an absolute joke of democracy
I've been thinking this for a while. And for those interested in the referendum I voted remain, and still feel that way however I find the fact that we voted for Brexit and now every politician and MP is doing everything they can to railroad Brex... | It would be making a joke out of *direct* democracy. Is the UK a direct democracy constitutionally, or was this always a powerless survey of the population to see what people wanted? | >If we all came together, to perform in the interest if the people, instead of squabbling amongst ourselves and stabbing each other in the back with skullduggery, we would have a deal by now.
Anyone can get you a deal sure. But will anyone get the exit voters the deal they want? | czz5vm | CMV: If Brexit doesn't happen we have made an absolute joke of democracy | I've been thinking this for a while. And for those interested in the referendum I voted remain, and still feel that way however I find the fact that we voted for Brexit and now every politician and MP is doing everything they can to railroad Brexit and sabotage the plan.
If we all came together, to perform in the int... | 1,567,680,566 | SuperPowerDragon | ez47tmy | ez46whw | 8 | 1 |
CMV: I think Facebook should get rid of the Thumbs up emoticon on messenger
A Lot of people use messenger. And people use emojis and symbols to express themselves. I do it too but say you're talking to someone and this happens:
You: Im glad that im doing good in school
Them:️👍
In my opinion, that kills the flow... | i think that one of the potential problems with your view is that you’re thinking of all of the flow-stopping ways it can be used. the thumbs up emoticon serves its purpose to express acknowledgement or congratulations to someone. just because it is misused by people, doesn’t mean that it should actually be removed.
f... | Sorry, u/fallequinox1221 – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 5:
> **Comments must contribute meaningfully to the conversation**.
Comments that are only links, jokes or "written upvotes" will be removed. Humor and affirmations of agreement can be contained within more substantial comments. [See the wiki... | 8oqr92 | CMV: I think Facebook should get rid of the Thumbs up emoticon on messenger | A Lot of people use messenger. And people use emojis and symbols to express themselves. I do it too but say you're talking to someone and this happens:
You: Im glad that im doing good in school
Them:️👍
In my opinion, that kills the flow of the conversation. You might say ”at least they responded.” But it's a laz... | 1,528,204,993 | cleverusername86 | e05iryt | e05frch | 4 | 1 |
CMV: Banning flavored E-cigarettes is either remarkabley foolish or a flat-out ploy, given that tobocca is legal at all. Details inside.
**Sources in comments, otherwise this looks scarily long lol**
The common argument for banning flavored e-cigarettes is that they appeal to minors, thus there is a reason to ban th... | I’m a cancer researcher, there’s no conclusive evidence that vaping is safer than smoking as far as I’m aware and the common statement of “no deaths” (recently “one death) having ever been reported is dangerously misleading since no deaths were reported from classical smoking either until the 1950’s. Remember that it t... | Have you considered the cultural aspect of things? If a youngster picks up e-cigs early, he may continue to use it because of the surrounding culture of smoking. If his friends move on to smoking, he might do so as well, since he's already used to using e-cigs.
Furthermore, the use of e-cigs and tobacco cigs are not m... | czz8ac | CMV: Banning flavored E-cigarettes is either remarkabley foolish or a flat-out ploy, given that tobocca is legal at all. Details inside. | **Sources in comments, otherwise this looks scarily long lol**
The common argument for banning flavored e-cigarettes is that they appeal to minors, thus there is a reason to ban them. What horseshit logic.
If you really do care about the health of these young teens who are exposed to e-cigs, why has smoking near ch... | 1,567,680,991 | throwawaytothetenth | ez48hky | ez46clk | 9 | 1 |
CMV: Forcing shows to have the 'flamboyantly gay' character ruins a potentially good character by shoving sexuality down our throat.
I want to preface by saying that thanks to browsing this sub and exposure to different lifestyles that having a character that represents some aspect of you helps a lot of people relate ... | I'm not clear why you're calling out overly and exaggerated gay characters here - this is a hallmark of television characters generally - they are overacted, one dimensional and fairly artificial. The airheaded cheerleader type, the nerd, the jock, the cool guy, the stoic man, the vapid love interest and so on.
I s... | I totally agree with you that badly written characters are making shows worse that what they could have been. But from my POV, most of the time, you got stereotypical characters everywhere in some shows, so adding a stereotypical gay will bring more diversity and representativity of gay community, without lowering the ... | 8orzdb | CMV: Forcing shows to have the 'flamboyantly gay' character ruins a potentially good character by shoving sexuality down our throat. | I want to preface by saying that thanks to browsing this sub and exposure to different lifestyles that having a character that represents some aspect of you helps a lot of people relate to shows and helps bring in consistent viewers. This isn't about that aspect of things to me; it is more about writing a character tha... | 1,528,214,467 | themathturbator | e05mmt0 | e05mdkv | 10 | 4 |
CMV: Forcing shows to have the 'flamboyantly gay' character ruins a potentially good character by shoving sexuality down our throat.
I want to preface by saying that thanks to browsing this sub and exposure to different lifestyles that having a character that represents some aspect of you helps a lot of people relate ... | Yeah, I think the 'manly man' stereotype hurt the already toxic masculinity image. Having characters that force themselves into stereotypes hurt that community by putting everyone in that kind of light. | This really speaks more to the writing of the character and the overall quality of the show rather than any generalized trend. And I really don't see any.
What you just described is just one way to write a bad character. Flanderization is bad. | 8orzdb | CMV: Forcing shows to have the 'flamboyantly gay' character ruins a potentially good character by shoving sexuality down our throat. | I want to preface by saying that thanks to browsing this sub and exposure to different lifestyles that having a character that represents some aspect of you helps a lot of people relate to shows and helps bring in consistent viewers. This isn't about that aspect of things to me; it is more about writing a character tha... | 1,528,214,467 | themathturbator | e05mqrd | e05mgnv | 19 | 7 |
CMV: I don’t understand the cult appeal of Arrested Development.
Mind you, I love the Russo Brothers work in the MCU and on Community. With the approach of the 5th season, my girlfriend and my cousin raved about AD. I watched the first four seasons, and... it’s just alright. I mean, there’s some funny stuff in there, ... | I mean, one reason is that people just find it really funny. If you don't, then that's just what it is.
But the other reason is the way the show rewards attention. It's not quite as unique in this regard as it used to be, but I still haven't encountered any show that's AS subtle and complex as Arrested Development. ... | I didn’t like the show for a long time and couldn’t fathom its appeal. However, it has grown on me in the sense that it is full of quotable and memeable moments. In a way this is because it is a terrible show with ridiculous plot lines and characters, although I suppose that is intended.
So for example, “there is alwa... | 8oa7fy | CMV: I don’t understand the cult appeal of Arrested Development. | Mind you, I love the Russo Brothers work in the MCU and on Community. With the approach of the 5th season, my girlfriend and my cousin raved about AD. I watched the first four seasons, and... it’s just alright. I mean, there’s some funny stuff in there, but overall, I don’t see it as worthy of cult status. It’s not lik... | 1,528,047,608 | thedeadwillwalk | e01u7ae | e01tpdn | 51 | 4 |
CMV: It should be socially acceptable to dislike and not want to partake in Halloween.
Halloween is upon us once again, and no matter how many years go by, when the scariest night of the year is just a month or so away, I always try - even a little bit - to feel some kind of excitement for Halloween. I try to see the ... | You say you are in the UK and I'm not familiar with the social stigmas there. I can say that in the US if a person doesn't want to participate in Halloween or any other holiday then that is perfectly acceptable. I've personally had many people say that they just aren't into it and everyone seems to think that's fine.
... | I didn't really get to celebrate Halloween much as a kid due to my religious mother. Some people think I missed out on all the fun as a kid. However in my view Halloween is way better as an adult. Giving out candy or sweets in my neighborhood makes the kids happy. Also people can get real creative with there costumes. ... | 799p8i | CMV: It should be socially acceptable to dislike and not want to partake in Halloween. | Halloween is upon us once again, and no matter how many years go by, when the scariest night of the year is just a month or so away, I always try - even a little bit - to feel some kind of excitement for Halloween. I try to see the positives in Halloween. I try to look forward to it.
And I always fail. I just cannot g... | 1,509,191,383 | TT454 | dp0bfxf | dp0aqpu | 26 | 1 |
CMV: Women who sexualize themselves and use their sex appeal to advance their careers in fields where sex appeal isn't a fundamental part, are hurting the women's movement, and should be discouraged from doing so.
So in light of stuff like the #MeToo movement, many women are tired of being objectified, and being see s... | So I'm just going to add to the ***should be discouraged from doing so.***
I actually agree with about setting the bar for professional attire. If the men are dressing professional, the women should too. But the question is, how should we enforce that?
I completely agree with the ***WPGA*** setting a dress code and ... | >in fields where sex appeal isn't a fundamental part
I think your example is a poor one, in light of this part of your view.
Sex appeal *is* part of being a sports figure, as it is part of being a celebrity. Society makes it that way, not the players. You only need look at the covers of magazines that cover sports f... | 8os9od | CMV: Women who sexualize themselves and use their sex appeal to advance their careers in fields where sex appeal isn't a fundamental part, are hurting the women's movement, and should be discouraged from doing so. | So in light of stuff like the #MeToo movement, many women are tired of being objectified, and being see solely as sex objects. Rightfully so, they want to be judged on their other merits, and not be seen just as a sex object for men's gaze. However, when attractive women purposely sexualize and objectify themselves t... | 1,528,216,521 | Justgoahead123 | e05rw1u | e05r5ix | 10 | 1 |
CMV: Sex is Binary
Reiterating here, all statements below are my opinion, subject to fault.
\- Sex is binary. Male => has Y chromosome, female => does not have Y chromosome. This definition is inclusive toward those with chromosomal differences such as those with Kleinfelters, Turners, etc.
\- Sexual traits are stro... | We don't use male to refer to people with Y chromosomes, and we know this because we used the word male long before we understood what chromosomes were.
Both males and females have testosterone. I understood what you were attempting to say, but you cannot make broad binary generalizations and simultaneously claim tha... | I both agree and disagree. Biologically speaking, people are normally born male/female and that's about all there is to it. However, sex is also a social construct, just like everything else that we give names to and is subject to change, but by your definition as according to the chromosomes it is binary.
In my pers... | 10vh9jw | CMV: Sex is Binary | Reiterating here, all statements below are my opinion, subject to fault.
\- Sex is binary. Male => has Y chromosome, female => does not have Y chromosome. This definition is inclusive toward those with chromosomal differences such as those with Kleinfelters, Turners, etc.
\- Sexual traits are strongly bimodal. Males ... | 1,675,715,476 | _Saxpy | j7hfxtw | j7hf7u0 | 1 | -1 |
CMV: The political left (which I am a part of) has got it all wrong when trying to understand and deal with the right and understanding the true differences between the two sides in America.
I am a far leaning, progressive liberal in America. I also feel the need to see the far rights perspectives and understand them ... | >Those that vote Republican don't want their taxes to be used to help other Americans. They are directly apposed to "their" money going to help anyone in the world other than them.
If you believe these two statements are saying roughly the same thing, then yes, you do have it all wrong.
Conservatives are not opposed ... | I think it has to do with propaganda.
Conservative politicians, now, often fabricate controversy so they can be the ones to find a solution. That way, they don't have to address the other problems they're actively creating with their very harmful policies.
Republicans are often seen as taking action (on nonsense cu... | 10vh89r | CMV: The political left (which I am a part of) has got it all wrong when trying to understand and deal with the right and understanding the true differences between the two sides in America. | I am a far leaning, progressive liberal in America. I also feel the need to see the far rights perspectives and understand them as best I can, so I get news notifications from Fox News just as much as I do places like NPR and MSNBC. I also often go to r/Republican and r/Conservative to read what "the common man" has to... | 1,675,715,404 | ElephantintheRoom404 | j7hl99s | j7hhjeo | 7 | 0 |
CMV: Touchscreens are a driving hazard
Look I'll be the first to admit that they're cool. They are.
But they make no sense.
If you can remember life before you had a touchscreen in your car, you can probably remember doing things like:
* Changing the volume on your radio
* Changing the station
* Adjusting the heat/... | I always buy new cars. I just got a 2020 Volvo. It has basically and ipad in the center. Everything is controlled there.. That said it really isn't an issue. Here's why.
Radio can be completely controlled from the steering wheel and the info shows up in the guage cluster. My last 3 cars (2015, 18 and 20) all did t... | There are also cars that also have buttons in the steering wheel to control the radio volume. If that's a valid argument to say that phones in general are not a driving hazard, then it's a valid argument too to say that touch screens are not a driving hazard. | l1ayxi | CMV: Touchscreens are a driving hazard | Look I'll be the first to admit that they're cool. They are.
But they make no sense.
If you can remember life before you had a touchscreen in your car, you can probably remember doing things like:
* Changing the volume on your radio
* Changing the station
* Adjusting the heat/defog/aircon
All without once looking a... | 1,611,155,288 | Ohigetjokes | gjycn4l | gjyb37k | 47 | 2 |
CMV: Forcing shows to have the 'flamboyantly gay' character ruins a potentially good character by shoving sexuality down our throat.
I want to preface by saying that thanks to browsing this sub and exposure to different lifestyles that having a character that represents some aspect of you helps a lot of people relate ... | This really speaks more to the writing of the character and the overall quality of the show rather than any generalized trend. And I really don't see any.
What you just described is just one way to write a bad character. Flanderization is bad. | I totally agree with you that badly written characters are making shows worse that what they could have been. But from my POV, most of the time, you got stereotypical characters everywhere in some shows, so adding a stereotypical gay will bring more diversity and representativity of gay community, without lowering the ... | 8orzdb | CMV: Forcing shows to have the 'flamboyantly gay' character ruins a potentially good character by shoving sexuality down our throat. | I want to preface by saying that thanks to browsing this sub and exposure to different lifestyles that having a character that represents some aspect of you helps a lot of people relate to shows and helps bring in consistent viewers. This isn't about that aspect of things to me; it is more about writing a character tha... | 1,528,214,467 | themathturbator | e05mgnv | e05mdkv | 7 | 4 |
CMV: A Mass Boycott of Hogwarts Legacy is Nonsensical and Harmful
Recently there has been a large push toward massively boycotting Hogwarts Legacy, and honestly, I think the whole idea of doing so is extremely nonsensical, I'll explain the views of why we should boycott, and subsequently why I think this is silly, and... | Response to Issue 1: All the people who worked on this game already got paid. They are not hurt by a boycott. Acting as if they are hurt is silly. If people boycott the game because of Rowling it will not hurt their careers. Multiple members of the dev team have already made statements affirming this. This is the big o... | Issue 1: Rowling, someone who has actively spread lies about trans people (https://www.mic.com/culture/jk-rowling-transphobic-self-id-laws) still gets money. The entire point of a boycott is to financially oppose someone with terrible views. In fact, the royalties to her and WB are the only thing my sale effects; a dev... | 10vhm3t | CMV: A Mass Boycott of Hogwarts Legacy is Nonsensical and Harmful | Recently there has been a large push toward massively boycotting Hogwarts Legacy, and honestly, I think the whole idea of doing so is extremely nonsensical, I'll explain the views of why we should boycott, and subsequently why I think this is silly, and hopefully, someone can bring up a point I'm missing.
# Apparent ... | 1,675,716,255 | ZombieIsTired | j7hjjd1 | j7hhwke | 19 | 12 |
CMV: Women who sexualize themselves and use their sex appeal to advance their careers in fields where sex appeal isn't a fundamental part, are hurting the women's movement, and should be discouraged from doing so.
So in light of stuff like the #MeToo movement, many women are tired of being objectified, and being see s... | I'm going to try another angle: Your CMV seems to be written on the idea that just because you are female you have more of an obligation to other people who happen to be female than to males.
In the end of the day career advancement often relies on stuff which has no technical relationship to your job; wearing busines... | I feel like you're stuck on one person. There are always people who are going to do things you do not agree with, or that may be distasteful / controversial etc.
I also appreciate that the notoriety / success of these people may indeed inspire others to follow a similar path, and even develop behaviours amongst certa... | 8os9od | CMV: Women who sexualize themselves and use their sex appeal to advance their careers in fields where sex appeal isn't a fundamental part, are hurting the women's movement, and should be discouraged from doing so. | So in light of stuff like the #MeToo movement, many women are tired of being objectified, and being see solely as sex objects. Rightfully so, they want to be judged on their other merits, and not be seen just as a sex object for men's gaze. However, when attractive women purposely sexualize and objectify themselves t... | 1,528,216,521 | Justgoahead123 | e05vezh | e05r3r4 | 24 | 7 |
CMV: Wanting to be called "they" rather than he or she is unreasonable.
I am a teaching assistant and last week I referred to a student as "she". This student looks like a girl, dresses like a girls, speaks like a girl, etc. and has a very feminine name. However, she called me out for assuming her gender and told me s... | I'm going to chime in a as person who grew up feeling like two people trapped in one body. I don't talk about this all that often.
I was going through puberty when transgender issues were just barely creeping into the mainstream media, and the internet had just made its way into our house.
I thought for a long time ... | I’d begin by noting that some people are intersex, meaning that regardless of what they feel, you can see right down to their basic biology that anatomically or chromosomally they do not fit they typical definition for male or female.
We could force these people to choose, but why should they? If they truly aren’t m... | 79a1v4 | CMV: Wanting to be called "they" rather than he or she is unreasonable. | I am a teaching assistant and last week I referred to a student as "she". This student looks like a girl, dresses like a girls, speaks like a girl, etc. and has a very feminine name. However, she called me out for assuming her gender and told me she is both a boy and a girl and would like me to call her "they." I am as... | 1,509,196,651 | FlashYourHeroes | dp0fs1d | dp0feqz | 225 | 7 |
CMV: The citizenship question should be asked on the Census.
There was immense media and social backlash when Trump proposed adding the citizenship question to the census.
My understanding is that his intent was to prevent the apportionment of congressmen,women to areas with large amounts of illegal immigrants.
My ... | The strongest argument against what you suggest is that it's unconstitutional. The relevant passage is from Article I, Section 2 (**emphasis added**):
> **Representatives** and direct Taxes **shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, w... | \> My view is that congresspeople should only be allocated based on the population densities of citizens.
Your view is unconstitutional. The constitution is very very very clear about who is counted in the census.
\> Illegal immigrants do not vote and do not pay federal taxes and therefore do not warrant additiona... | l1c0t4 | CMV: The citizenship question should be asked on the Census. | There was immense media and social backlash when Trump proposed adding the citizenship question to the census.
My understanding is that his intent was to prevent the apportionment of congressmen,women to areas with large amounts of illegal immigrants.
My view is that congresspeople should only be allocated based on ... | 1,611,158,510 | cheebaclese | gjygoay | gjyfe2a | 24 | 17 |
CMV: Touchscreens are a driving hazard
Look I'll be the first to admit that they're cool. They are.
But they make no sense.
If you can remember life before you had a touchscreen in your car, you can probably remember doing things like:
* Changing the volume on your radio
* Changing the station
* Adjusting the heat/... | Automotive engineer, worked both in R&D and OEM. It is true - buttons are safer. That's why in many trucks and specialized vehicles they come in clusters of three. In this way, whenever you reach out to change something, you always know what is left/middle/right.
With that being said, screens are easy to implement. M... | First I'd say that two hands on the wheel and 100% attention to the road is the safest way to drive. ANY distraction is a driving hazard. Even if you can reach to press a button by memory and not take your eyes of the road still means you were at less than 100% focus/attention on the road. So yes, using a touchscreen w... | l1ayxi | CMV: Touchscreens are a driving hazard | Look I'll be the first to admit that they're cool. They are.
But they make no sense.
If you can remember life before you had a touchscreen in your car, you can probably remember doing things like:
* Changing the volume on your radio
* Changing the station
* Adjusting the heat/defog/aircon
All without once looking a... | 1,611,155,288 | Ohigetjokes | gk1kup9 | gjydjam | 5 | 0 |
CMV: If Brexit doesn't happen we have made an absolute joke of democracy
I've been thinking this for a while. And for those interested in the referendum I voted remain, and still feel that way however I find the fact that we voted for Brexit and now every politician and MP is doing everything they can to railroad Brex... | Better to have never voted at all. I was on the losing side and I'm still somehow coming out with a win. I can only feel for the hundreds of thousands who actually were on the majority side who have now been blatantly betrayed. That's my argument. | That doesn’t appear to reflect current public opinion. But if you are sure the majority still supports Brexit, why oppose another vote? If the vote supports a hard Brexit, that will hugely benefit the supporters of Brexit and silence most of those who oppose it. | czz5vm | CMV: If Brexit doesn't happen we have made an absolute joke of democracy | I've been thinking this for a while. And for those interested in the referendum I voted remain, and still feel that way however I find the fact that we voted for Brexit and now every politician and MP is doing everything they can to railroad Brexit and sabotage the plan.
If we all came together, to perform in the int... | 1,567,680,566 | SuperPowerDragon | ez4mqsi | ez4lqy5 | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Customer service jobs will always suck.
So everyone I know who has ever worked in customer service has experienced poor treatment from customers, rude customers, etc. I don’t think I have spoken to anyone who works with customers who doesn’t have a story like this.
And beyond that, customers tend to do things th... | It depends a lot on your customer base. For example, golf caddies or people that work a service desk in a high end or specialized shops probably don't have to deal with nearly as many nasty customers.
Those customer service jobs pay more and are also often given more leeway due to the higher margins those places have... | Really? I worked customer service in the before-time, and I'd just do my thing until the customer got off their phone. I never thought they were being rude by it.
Don't get me wrong, I *have* experienced rude customers - but I'd just categorize their rudeness as more "blatant", you know? | eqhdwe | CMV: Customer service jobs will always suck. | So everyone I know who has ever worked in customer service has experienced poor treatment from customers, rude customers, etc. I don’t think I have spoken to anyone who works with customers who doesn’t have a story like this.
And beyond that, customers tend to do things that seem to dehumanize workers - like talking o... | 1,579,359,779 | EmpiricalPancake | feski5r | fes3hvp | 2 | 0 |
CMV: I don’t understand the cult appeal of Arrested Development.
Mind you, I love the Russo Brothers work in the MCU and on Community. With the approach of the 5th season, my girlfriend and my cousin raved about AD. I watched the first four seasons, and... it’s just alright. I mean, there’s some funny stuff in there, ... | Arrested Development has many layers that reward long time fans. It's like a play by Oscar Wilde or Shakespeare. It's ok the first time you see it, but the more you watch sit, the more little things you uncover.
Also, it's very different from most sitcoms that need audiences to like the characters. On AD, the characte... | I thought Arrested Development was dumb the first time I watched it and now its one of my favorite shows and I like it more with each rewatch \(seen it 3\-4 times now\). I find new jokes every time and I just haven't come across another show like that. Maybe breaking bad in terms of attention to detail and playing the ... | 8oa7fy | CMV: I don’t understand the cult appeal of Arrested Development. | Mind you, I love the Russo Brothers work in the MCU and on Community. With the approach of the 5th season, my girlfriend and my cousin raved about AD. I watched the first four seasons, and... it’s just alright. I mean, there’s some funny stuff in there, but overall, I don’t see it as worthy of cult status. It’s not lik... | 1,528,047,608 | thedeadwillwalk | e02608h | e024yb0 | 4 | 1 |
CMV: Film Directors should not be as valued as the Screenwriters
Whenever we see people talk about who’s in charge of the film and who is blamed/appreciated for the quality of it, it’s the director. But 9 times out of 10, the complaints or things that make people like or dislike the film are down to the story, charact... | A screenplay is a living, working project that changes throughout the entire process. A screenwriter submits their drafts to the producers, assistance and whoever.
During the filming process, the screenplay can be altered by the directors, and even actors can provide imput and suggest changes. Speaking of actors, th... | I don’t disagree that directors get a lot of praise for the work of a team, but the directors job is to bring all that team together and execute the entire work.
Writers are a part of that team but not the head. They deserve praise, equal to that of everyone else, but they are not the most important part of filmmakin... | eqf5dw | CMV: Film Directors should not be as valued as the Screenwriters | Whenever we see people talk about who’s in charge of the film and who is blamed/appreciated for the quality of it, it’s the director. But 9 times out of 10, the complaints or things that make people like or dislike the film are down to the story, characters, and plot- so surely we should focus more on the people who wr... | 1,579,345,597 | sebbiter | ferhx2i | feqz4zd | 11 | 2 |
CMV: The Republican party hasn't swung to the right as much as the Democratic party has swung left. (USA politics)
In 1996, most Democrats (and Republicans) were pro border walls and against gay marriage. Nowadays Democrats have abandoned their previous positions in favor of more progressive ones, but I constantly hea... | What timetable are we talking about?
Medicare was started in 1966 and M4A would have fit right in with mainstream politics of the time. Bernie would be a centrist.
1965
The average CEO made 25 times what the average worker made and paid 70% in taxes.
2018
The average CEO made 361 times what the average worker made a... | I think the media savvy part has to do with the rise of social media. Fox News isn’t new and the religious right isn’t new, but I think they’ve reached new heights on places like Facebook where people are inundated with extremist propaganda that’s posted as news. And it’s targeted in ways that tv ads aren’t, only certa... | e22txu | CMV: The Republican party hasn't swung to the right as much as the Democratic party has swung left. (USA politics) | In 1996, most Democrats (and Republicans) were pro border walls and against gay marriage. Nowadays Democrats have abandoned their previous positions in favor of more progressive ones, but I constantly hear the talk about how far to the right Republicans have moved. I'm not seeing the alleged swing. Now Donald Trump is ... | 1,574,795,723 | Sgt_Spatula | f8to7ay | f8t84kn | 7 | 2 |
CMV: Children should not be mandated to go to school
Cards on the table: I'm a middle school teacher. There is seemingly no end to the number of students who don't want to be at school. I sometimes wonder what would happen if there wasn't a law requiring them to be there. In my optimistic mind, they would drop out and... | I hated school. I’m 50, to put this In perspective. I was called hyper, and lazy. I literally could not sit still and felt my underwear was biting my butt cheeks. Little pinches all day long. Naturally I’d jump each time. I was easily distracted, but if something interested me boy could I focus. My mother tried everyth... | > humans inherently love learning
Just because humans love learning doesn't mean that they love learning in a school environment, or the subjects taught in a school. Children are information sponges, but if school is no longer mandated, they will still be learning wherever they are and only the ones that are actually ... | eqll1e | CMV: Children should not be mandated to go to school | Cards on the table: I'm a middle school teacher. There is seemingly no end to the number of students who don't want to be at school. I sometimes wonder what would happen if there wasn't a law requiring them to be there. In my optimistic mind, they would drop out and then after a month or so they'd decide for themselves... | 1,579,378,143 | [deleted] | fetuirj | fetsjbe | 15 | 11 |
CMV: The "but she's actually 300 years old" excuse for lewding lolis is perfectly rational as the issue of age based consent is based on the younger party's inability to make an informed decision.
If I'm being completely honest, I'm not even into lolis and loli lewding, but the argument that a fictional character who'... | Do they just look young, or do they act young as well? Saying that a fictional character is "really" of age if they look and act underage sounds more like an excuse to sexualize. | I think you are right that it would not be wrong to have sex with a 300 year old who had the psychical appearance of a child.
But the more real issue is the creation of animate media which sexualizes child like characters. Is that good for viewers? Is it good for society? Is it good for people with inclinations tow... | 8oiawu | CMV: The "but she's actually 300 years old" excuse for lewding lolis is perfectly rational as the issue of age based consent is based on the younger party's inability to make an informed decision. | If I'm being completely honest, I'm not even into lolis and loli lewding, but the argument that a fictional character who's several hundred years old shouldn't be lewded and that lewding them makes you a pedophile just because they have a petite figure makes no sense to me.
I know the whole loli lewding thing in the a... | 1,528,127,198 | OddlySpecificReferen | e03j1kl | e03j04o | 25 | 11 |
CMV: Black People Contribute to Racism in America
Before you downvote and think that I am uneducated, let me explain from my point of view.
Don't get me wrong. Racism is a terrible problem in America. Black people are victims of racism especially in the criminal justice system. Many people want racism to end, howeve... | Try looking at this issue in a broader scope of tribalism, as opposed to just racism in this particular case. You'll start noticing similar kind of sh't everywhere no matter the arbitrary groups people segregate themselves into. Humans enjoy forming gangs. No matter the uniting characteristic. And when the gang is born... | And by your admission, the area they sit in is welcome to **all.** And yet no white kids want to go over and sit there.
Would you think it would be ludicrous of me to accuse you of contributing to racism by sitting with your non-black friends instead of trying to sit in that corner? I think it would be. I also think y... | e181n3 | CMV: Black People Contribute to Racism in America | Before you downvote and think that I am uneducated, let me explain from my point of view.
Don't get me wrong. Racism is a terrible problem in America. Black people are victims of racism especially in the criminal justice system. Many people want racism to end, however, black people help contribute to racism in Americ... | 1,574,643,311 | icy_joe_blow | f8pbo1h | f8ntnoq | 2 | -1 |
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