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CMV: A human's life is vastly more valuable than an animals.
When presented with the life altering, and dreadful decision to either save your pets life or a complete strangers life, which do you choose?
Recently, I got into this debate with my fiance about this. If it came down to her (and ours, but hers first) dog... | In a very general sense, I agree.
However, would you argue that *every single* human life has more value than *every single* animal life?
For instance, would you value the life of a convicted serial murderer over that of a beloved family pet?
Do the circumstances matter in your choice?
For instance, if a burglar is... | Okay first you have to prove why the human life has more value than an animal’s life. Probably that value that you think human life has has more to do with the fact that you’re human rather than an objective reason for that value. I woyld argue that animal life has the same value as human life, but we as human (mainly ... | 8odjyg | CMV: A human's life is vastly more valuable than an animals. | When presented with the life altering, and dreadful decision to either save your pets life or a complete strangers life, which do you choose?
Recently, I got into this debate with my fiance about this. If it came down to her (and ours, but hers first) dog or a random human life, which would she save? She chose the d... | 1,528,076,664 | muhwreck | e02kkl1 | e02jvv6 | 90 | 6 |
CMV: People who watch anime are usually extremely weird
Look, before anybody crucifies me for saying this, it's important to note that, for some weird reason, I've never really liked anime. I guess it comes down to me seeing all that gore and deep suffering as a kid, so with time I just began to think that all anime m... | This seems like classic observation bias. You are not into anime. Therefore, it's safe to assume you aren't in any anime fandoms or chatrooms or friend groups where anime is commonly talked about. Therefore the people who watch it and live normal, run of the mill lives go under your radar and the only people you _know_... | So it’s not people who watch anime who seem weird, it is people who are obsessed enough with anime that it becomes an apparent trait of their online presence that seem weird? Isn’t that a bit of confirmation bias?
Think of it this way. Would you say most people who like sex are obsessed weirdos? Probably not, but i... | l0f4hy | CMV: People who watch anime are usually extremely weird | Look, before anybody crucifies me for saying this, it's important to note that, for some weird reason, I've never really liked anime. I guess it comes down to me seeing all that gore and deep suffering as a kid, so with time I just began to think that all anime must be weirdly exaggerated like that. Then there's all th... | 1,611,042,286 | ZestZeal | gjthcoy | gjt72or | 4 | 3 |
CMV: It should be culturally taboo to use "daddy", "baby", and similar words in a sexual context.
It feels (to me) that there is something inherently incestuous about referring to your partner the same way you'd refer to a family member, and something inherently pedophilic in referring to them the same way you would a... | I have never called my father daddy. That is for pillow talk only. | Pretty sure calling your boyfriend your sugar daddy with sincerity clarifies the relationship to outsiders quickly. | 19bi80g | CMV: It should be culturally taboo to use "daddy", "baby", and similar words in a sexual context. | It feels (to me) that there is something inherently incestuous about referring to your partner the same way you'd refer to a family member, and something inherently pedophilic in referring to them the same way you would a small child.
How would it sound if a man referred to his lover as his cute little "toddler" or "... | 1,705,775,183 | gr8artist | kirxp5x | kirwfdc | 7 | 1 |
CMV: Processed clean water is not a human right
I was recently reading about Nestle's horrible practices, and stumbled upon this:
[https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nestle-ceo-water-not-human-right/](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nestle-ceo-water-not-human-right/)
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Here's what I think:
1. Someone has t... | I'd say access to water is a human right. No one is going to be forced to pipe clean water to the middle of a desert just so you can live there.
However, if you're living next an oasis in that same desert, no entity should be able to come in and take claim ownership of that water, denying you access.
As you said, *pr... | Not all water in nature needs to be cleaned. Millions and millions of people (including myself) have a well. I have fantastic clean water with way less chemicals and pollution than your idea of "clean" water. I'm Canadian.
| b3qi0r | CMV: Processed clean water is not a human right | I was recently reading about Nestle's horrible practices, and stumbled upon this:
[https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nestle-ceo-water-not-human-right/](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nestle-ceo-water-not-human-right/)
​
Here's what I think:
1. Someone has to filter/clean the water found in nature so that ... | 1,553,174,746 | ApparitionOfChaos | ej1c83j | ej1bv5u | 2 | 1 |
CMV: There's no such thing as "talent"
The word "talented" in my experience tends to refer to people who are assumed to have a natural ability to perform a skill better than others, all the way from birth.
For example, if someone sees an artist making a very good sketch, they might say that person is just talented an... | Studies show that men have better motor skills and visuospatial skills than women. Women have better reading comprehension and verbal communication skills. Agree or disagree?
Our physical strength and speed is equal but I have better motor skills than my twin sister. I'm a more talented baseball player. Valid?
Our ed... | It doesn’t matter how many times I throw a baseball or what kind of training I do. I’ll never be able to throw it 100 miles an hour. Sure, you need to practice, but if you don’t have the physical or mental ability to do something, it doesn’t matter that you practice or dedicate time to it. | epubfk | CMV: There's no such thing as "talent" | The word "talented" in my experience tends to refer to people who are assumed to have a natural ability to perform a skill better than others, all the way from birth.
For example, if someone sees an artist making a very good sketch, they might say that person is just talented and remark that they wished they could dra... | 1,579,229,871 | Deribus | felvzdh | felu5kw | 3 | 1 |
CMV: The far/alt right is unequivocally worse than the far left
Let me preface this by saying I'm a relative centrist, and that I absolutely do not condone either of the fringes of the political spectrum.
That being said:
The far left and far right are both wrong in their ways, but wrongness is on a spectrum. I'm go... | Both extremes are terrible. Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Russia, Mao's China. Horrible atrocities.
There is a pretty general concensus about what extremism on the right looks like. Preaching ethnic superiority and cleansing of the gene pool? Yep, too far, and we can all see the warning signs when that line is being appr... | In terms of actual damage done to *modern and recent* America yes the far right is worse.
In terms of actual ideology and potential for damage done the far left is just as bad as the far right. Antifa is a Stalinist movement. If you go look up the largest genocides in human history the USSR under Stalin goes tit for ... | l0zfjp | CMV: The far/alt right is unequivocally worse than the far left | Let me preface this by saying I'm a relative centrist, and that I absolutely do not condone either of the fringes of the political spectrum.
That being said:
The far left and far right are both wrong in their ways, but wrongness is on a spectrum. I'm going to use Antifa vs. QAnon for most of my post as a comparison.
... | 1,611,109,149 | SickoModeM8 | gjwoyd9 | gjwjyvm | 3 | -3 |
CMV: The SAT is not racist.
So I have seen multiple articles online that state that "Ending White supremacy means ending racist testing" and study finds that white people on sat score 99 points higher than black people. However, this is not the fault of the SAT itself, but of income inequality between groups. Colleges... | the word "racist" has a lot of connotations that removing from the conversation might be helpful. Let's just talk about racial bias.
The SAT tests provide literary passages for students to read and analyze.
I googled SAT reading example and clicked the first link. The first excerpt was from the book "Ethan Frome," ... | >The SAT is simply a number that summarizes academic skill level
This is not true, and the College Board (parent of the SAT) no longer claims this to be the case. SAT used to stand for Scholastic Aptitude Test, changed it to Scholastic Assessment Test when it became increasingly obvious the more effort you put into st... | l0z87a | CMV: The SAT is not racist. | So I have seen multiple articles online that state that "Ending White supremacy means ending racist testing" and study finds that white people on sat score 99 points higher than black people. However, this is not the fault of the SAT itself, but of income inequality between groups. Colleges already combat this through ... | 1,611,108,465 | TheAnonymous123456 | gjwi3wc | gjwh8ik | 1 | 0 |
CMV: There are actually no adult women who has never been sexually harassed in any way.
Trigger warning - Talk about sexual harassment and assault
The first time I was sexually harassed that I remember was when I was 11 or 12. An older guy in his 50s kept groping me on the bus on my way back from school. After that ... | I would rephrase your statement to "there are far too many women who have, at some point in their lives, been sexually harassed in some way" only because the qualifier of "every woman" is nearly impossible to prove and so easy to disprove. The law of large numbers means I could easily estimate that at some point in the... | It’s fucked up when it happens to anyone and I don’t doubt that many men have gone through this experience as well. The thing is though, I agree with OP that it would be extremely difficult to find a single woman who hadn’t experienced some form of sexual harassment and while I don’t deny the many men who have to deal ... | 19bmctl | CMV: There are actually no adult women who has never been sexually harassed in any way. |
Trigger warning - Talk about sexual harassment and assault
The first time I was sexually harassed that I remember was when I was 11 or 12. An older guy in his 50s kept groping me on the bus on my way back from school. After that there has been several instances of guys touching me in an indecent way throughout the ye... | 1,705,785,952 | Excellent-Pay6235 | kissdlm | kiss43b | 47 | -3 |
CMV: I don't think conservatives are any more prone towards conspiracy theories then left leaning folks.
I totally understand that in this day and age of Donald Trump it sure FEELS like right leaning people are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories. And the most dramatic example, about the election, clearly ha... | You are making several different points here, and they don't necessarily require / support each other; that those with extreme political views are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories, that it is unwise (politically and intellectually) to assume a conservative believes in conspiracy theories, and that conserv... | The studies you're citing don't actually support your conclusions. For example, the first link you provided talks about right wing and left wing extremists. As in, the individuals/groups that are the "furthest" right or the "furthest" left. What it doesn't talk about in much detail is the other 99% of people that may b... | l0mqe5 | CMV: I don't think conservatives are any more prone towards conspiracy theories then left leaning folks. | I totally understand that in this day and age of Donald Trump it sure FEELS like right leaning people are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories. And the most dramatic example, about the election, clearly has a political bent. That said, I grew up in a day and age where a non-zero number of left leaning people a... | 1,611,072,169 | MasterCrumb | gjv9j5x | gjucgu3 | 15 | -1 |
CMV: Andrew Yang's plan to give all Americans $1,000 per month would do little more than dramatically increase rent prices and other prices as well.
It seems like a universal and equal influx of cash like that without a change in supply will only lead to higher prices. Especially in areas like housing, etc. Most peopl... | ∆, for reminding me that supply can always increase. However, I'm not completely convinced because you can't build new apartments in a day, and you say we aren't at Max housing supply, but we sure are close. There aren't really people out there who have no place to live because they can afford it but can't find it. | Okay there are two ways of thinking of Universal Basic Income or UBI and it's more from a bureaucratic position than a money system.
Let's say you have to give money to poor people so they won't starve. You've tried proposing killing them but it polled poorly. So you are stuck giving poor people money.
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Now... | b3qc4e | CMV: Andrew Yang's plan to give all Americans $1,000 per month would do little more than dramatically increase rent prices and other prices as well. | It seems like a universal and equal influx of cash like that without a change in supply will only lead to higher prices. Especially in areas like housing, etc. Most people it seems, who are renters, given an extra $1k/mo would want to move to a nicer apartment. Given a much higher demand for nicer apartments, landlords... | 1,553,173,769 | jollyrogerninja | ej1bpsg | ej1bkjo | 147 | 146 |
CMV: People who watch anime are usually extremely weird
Look, before anybody crucifies me for saying this, it's important to note that, for some weird reason, I've never really liked anime. I guess it comes down to me seeing all that gore and deep suffering as a kid, so with time I just began to think that all anime m... | 60% of Japanese consume anime and manga sometimes or often. By your logic, the majority of Japanese are usually extremely weird.
The alternative is like any hobby there are the normal fans and the most devoted fans. The latter dressed up in costumes, have all the merchandise etc, that makes them more noticeable than ... | So of all the people you know, how many have you asked whether they watch anime? | l0f4hy | CMV: People who watch anime are usually extremely weird | Look, before anybody crucifies me for saying this, it's important to note that, for some weird reason, I've never really liked anime. I guess it comes down to me seeing all that gore and deep suffering as a kid, so with time I just began to think that all anime must be weirdly exaggerated like that. Then there's all th... | 1,611,042,286 | ZestZeal | gjt740n | gjt6fih | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The best time to wear a striped sweater is all the time
As I break into my fledgling career in showbiz, I've developed strong beliefs about fashion. My most staunchly held conviction is that striped sweaters are absolutely perfect to wear for every instance of time. Sweaters are warm, comfortable and cozy. Sweate... | Hiding out in a zebra herd would seem to be an inopportune time to be wearing a stripe sweater when a lion attacked. If it is black and white vertical you would blend in and could be mistakenly attacked for looking like a zebra, if it is any other color scheme or pattern you would stick out and not be able to use the g... | >Sweaters are warm
This is the biggest problem. Very often they are too warm. During summer weather, you can very easily overheat if you are wearing too many layers. While this may be a good choice for a cool day in the early spring or late fall and can certainly work all winter, I can't see every wearing a sweater... | 68w25m | CMV: The best time to wear a striped sweater is all the time | As I break into my fledgling career in showbiz, I've developed strong beliefs about fashion. My most staunchly held conviction is that striped sweaters are absolutely perfect to wear for every instance of time. Sweaters are warm, comfortable and cozy. Sweaters with stripes contribute a personalized angle. Bonus points ... | 1,493,760,416 | ScantronPattern | dh1rsc3 | dh1qyfy | 37 | 32 |
CMV: Calc 2 is easier than Calc 1
you guys lied to me. Calc 2 was far easier than calc 1. No my teacher didnt curve or anything like that. The material was way more straight forward. Just solving integrals. Picking the technique to use isnt as bad as people make it out to be. Like I've had people here say u-sub is jus... | I teach both CALC 1 and CALC 2!!!!! Finally I can chime in!
I have a few **questions** before I attempt to change your view!
**1). Did you have to learn “trigonometric substitution” when you took calc 2?**
*if you did, you wouldn’t have posted this.*
**2). Did you feel that your calc 2 teacher was better than your ... | You aren't comparing apples to apples. Take a random sample of people off the street. Make half of them take calc 1 and half take calc 2. Which group do you think gets the lower end-of-semester grade?
It's enormous selection bias in that almost everyone who has taken calc 2 has already taken calc 1. Whereas almost nob... | eq86y8 | CMV: Calc 2 is easier than Calc 1 | you guys lied to me. Calc 2 was far easier than calc 1. No my teacher didnt curve or anything like that. The material was way more straight forward. Just solving integrals. Picking the technique to use isnt as bad as people make it out to be. Like I've had people here say u-sub is just guess and check. It isn't. You lo... | 1,579,302,733 | [deleted] | ferxtqo | feoyo7u | 6 | 2 |
CMV: There is nothing wrong with having body count preferences
How is it that you can have preferences over almost every single thing except body count? Height, hair color, eye color, career, religion, etc… Especially since sex before marriage is often against a religious belief. I’ll admit, it’s a little strange to p... | I do want to clarify that I also don’t think it’s wrong for people who are asked this kind of question to not respond, or even brake up with them over it. It just seems wrong to me that there are many people that think it makes you an awful person if you are asking questions like these to understand your partner’s beli... | I don't think I have anything against it ideologically but seems intrusive even from someone I'm dating to ask for that, like... I'd not answer, because I don't keep a count, and I'd also ghost you, because you intruded in something I would eventually have told you when ready. | 10u6832 | CMV: There is nothing wrong with having body count preferences | How is it that you can have preferences over almost every single thing except body count? Height, hair color, eye color, career, religion, etc… Especially since sex before marriage is often against a religious belief. I’ll admit, it’s a little strange to put “Looking for someone with x Body Count” on a bio or something... | 1,675,579,848 | GenocidalFlower | j7a9k1l | j7a7o3b | 29 | -2 |
CMV: There is nothing wrong with having body count preferences
How is it that you can have preferences over almost every single thing except body count? Height, hair color, eye color, career, religion, etc… Especially since sex before marriage is often against a religious belief. I’ll admit, it’s a little strange to p... | At the end of the day no one can force you to be in a relationship with someone you don't want to be, no matter the reason. That being said, I think it's fair to critique the underlying assumptions you are making about people when you state a preference such as this. Those two things are not at odds with each other.
I... | Because someones sexual history has nothing to do with you. | 10u6832 | CMV: There is nothing wrong with having body count preferences | How is it that you can have preferences over almost every single thing except body count? Height, hair color, eye color, career, religion, etc… Especially since sex before marriage is often against a religious belief. I’ll admit, it’s a little strange to put “Looking for someone with x Body Count” on a bio or something... | 1,675,579,848 | GenocidalFlower | j7a71id | j7a71fv | 897 | -19 |
CMV: Seeing multiple people at the same time doesn’t make you a bad person or a cheater
Unless you are married to someone, people just seeing each other have made no real commitment to be faithful to each other only. For example I’ve been dating a girl for a few weeks but I’ve recently made moves on my crush. I’m perf... | You say the first girl is assuming you will only be seeing her….you know this is the expectation she has about the relationship between you two…….and you are choosing to pursue a relationship with another girl without telling the first.
That’s cheating.
Specifically because even if “unspoken” it’s an acknowledged agr... | By the time you get to the "what are we?" there does come a commitment and boundaries. If you are seeing someone for a few weeks it is close to the area where there is an expectation of monogamy (or a discussion on the type of open relationships)
I think the fact that you are feeling guilty is informative. You should ... | 10twxqa | CMV: Seeing multiple people at the same time doesn’t make you a bad person or a cheater | Unless you are married to someone, people just seeing each other have made no real commitment to be faithful to each other only. For example I’ve been dating a girl for a few weeks but I’ve recently made moves on my crush. I’m perfectly in my right to do that because I’m not tied down to the first girl. She is assuming... | 1,675,559,446 | HardcoreFanatic247 | j798dbl | j7980zm | 132 | 9 |
CMV: The letters C and Q should be removed from the english alphabet.
In every instance these letters are used, there is a much simpler way of spelling them. For instance, the work quack could be spelled kwak. The letter C often just mimics the S or K sound. As for the Q, I feel as if “Kw” would be a sufficient repl... | Q doesn't have to be followed by u, and when it isn't, it sounds more or less like a lone k. (E.g. Iraq, Qatar, Compaq, qabab.) So k doesn't have any advantage over q in usability. Plus, q is more pleasing to look at and to write than k (whether uppercase or lowercase). So if we're going to be eliminating one of either... | kw and q aren't the same sound, but the are similiar sounds.
for example, I don't make a K sound when i say queen. Queen versus kween. Hard to explain on text, but the Q is softer.
Kick. Queen. Try to say the naturally a couple times. Similar but different sounds.
I have a midwest accent, so i guess your mileag... | iqsc3a | CMV: The letters C and Q should be removed from the english alphabet. |
In every instance these letters are used, there is a much simpler way of spelling them. For instance, the work quack could be spelled kwak. The letter C often just mimics the S or K sound. As for the Q, I feel as if “Kw” would be a sufficient replacement. The fact that q always has to be paired with the letter u at a... | 1,599,837,089 | Sohjah | g4u37i2 | g4u0on5 | 5 | 0 |
CMV:The Rainbow Flag is unsightly and a poor representation of the Gay Community.
Quick preface: I have no intention of going against the gay community, or anything like that. I just think the flag is bad.
First off, It's just not nice to look at. The use of bright colours and the complete disregard for negative spac... | >**The Rainbow Flag is unsightly and a poor representation of the Gay Community.**
The rainbow flag doesn't just represent the gay community though. It represents ALL the communities under the LGBT\+ umbrella, including lesbians, bisexuals, and transgenders, and many more.
Thus it is a whole rainbow of colors ... | So, first, I think you're having trouble with your links. Try removing any spaces you may have between the parenthesis and the square brackets.
As for your view. This will be very simple. You're taking a test. You got an 80%. That's a passing grade. That's a "B".
4/5=80%. So, this still passes "the test" | 8obm17 | CMV:The Rainbow Flag is unsightly and a poor representation of the Gay Community. | Quick preface: I have no intention of going against the gay community, or anything like that. I just think the flag is bad.
First off, It's just not nice to look at. The use of bright colours and the complete disregard for negative space make it overpowering to anything around it, and frankly garish in contrast to eve... | 1,528,059,259 | tetrieschoclayornage | e02893c | e025wkp | 4 | 1 |
CMV: Processed clean water is not a human right
I was recently reading about Nestle's horrible practices, and stumbled upon this:
[https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nestle-ceo-water-not-human-right/](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nestle-ceo-water-not-human-right/)
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Here's what I think:
1. Someone has t... | >We cannot just trust "unowned" water for consumption, we need some guarantee the water is safe, hence someone or some group has to do work to ensure this standard.
Not really. If you boil water it can generally be safely drunk. There is no need for a company like nestle to own and privatize a water source. When peop... | Not all water in nature needs to be cleaned. Millions and millions of people (including myself) have a well. I have fantastic clean water with way less chemicals and pollution than your idea of "clean" water. I'm Canadian.
| b3qi0r | CMV: Processed clean water is not a human right | I was recently reading about Nestle's horrible practices, and stumbled upon this:
[https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nestle-ceo-water-not-human-right/](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nestle-ceo-water-not-human-right/)
​
Here's what I think:
1. Someone has to filter/clean the water found in nature so that ... | 1,553,174,746 | ApparitionOfChaos | ej1c3ci | ej1bv5u | 19 | 1 |
CMV: Violence and/or murder is sometimes necessary in order to accomplish good, positive change.
I am an 8th grade U.S. History teacher. Over the last week, my students have been reading primary documents and background on Nat Turner. At the end of today, they were to answer the question of "Do you feel Nat Turner i... | So far, this is my favorite reply. I don't know if it's delta worthy....yet. This is my first ever CMV post, so I want to remember it!
If you're saying Nat's rebellion was justified due to self defense, are you saying you agree with my view instead of wanting to change it? You're saying it is ok to get violent and/... | 2 strong cautions I would give:
1. What if we're the crazy one? No doubt John Wilkes Booth thought that Abraham Lincoln was a vile dictator. Anders Breivik Bering devoted 1500 pages to explaining his worldview and setting the table for his actions. The fact is that killing is a permanent action, and there's no way to ... | 86nbeu | CMV: Violence and/or murder is sometimes necessary in order to accomplish good, positive change. | I am an 8th grade U.S. History teacher. Over the last week, my students have been reading primary documents and background on Nat Turner. At the end of today, they were to answer the question of "Do you feel Nat Turner is a hero or a madman?" The students vote on this. While some are on the fence, I instruct them t... | 1,521,832,674 | jakefake3 | dw6hwbw | dw6dfbi | 3 | 0 |
CMV: There is some form of institutional bias/discrimination/lack of representation in the music industry for bass-baritone vocalists
Not going to say it's as problematic as discrimination based on race, gender, sexuality, religion, etc, but I think it's still an issue.
Would like to preface this by mentioning that I... | I always thought it was just because bass vocalists were much less common in general than baritones and tenors?
I'd love to hear more guys with voices like Johnny Cash, it's just not common for someone to have that deep of a register and be interested+talented in singing. I'm a bass, for example, but I can't sing for ... | Simply put - businesses exist to make money.
If the was a demand for the baritone voices, someone would have swept in and capitized on the market. If there is money to be made - someone will try to make it.
Given this is evidently not the case, it would follow the market is not there for a baritone. The reasons why c... | 8ob6z1 | CMV: There is some form of institutional bias/discrimination/lack of representation in the music industry for bass-baritone vocalists | Not going to say it's as problematic as discrimination based on race, gender, sexuality, religion, etc, but I think it's still an issue.
Would like to preface this by mentioning that I am a musician myself, a multi-instrumentalist, as well as a bass-baritone vocalist. I took voice lessons for 5 years, classically trai... | 1,528,055,814 | PandaPlaneMusic | e025ogd | e025ep9 | 7 | 1 |
CMV:Paying for sex shouldn't be seen as a flaw in one's Character nor should it be seen as disgusting
I think as long as consent can be gotten from both parties and the sex worker isnt being trafficked , I don't think this should be used as a judgment of one's character or be shamed in any way, I have seen alot of pe... | I get the idea , my problem with this thou is that it applies to every other Job, I get that sex is different and that you have a different view point on the idea of sex and as long as you don't use that as a moral judgement that's fine or view the act of buying sex as disgusting, as for the trafficked situation I thi... | On one hand, we shouldn't judge people. On the other hand, it's good to have strong moral beliefs. One of my beliefs is that sex outside of marriage is very immoral. Reducing it to a business transaction is even worse. | 10unvlh | CMV:Paying for sex shouldn't be seen as a flaw in one's Character nor should it be seen as disgusting | I think as long as consent can be gotten from both parties and the sex worker isnt being trafficked , I don't think this should be used as a judgment of one's character or be shamed in any way, I have seen alot of people shame people more specifically men who pay for sex , they view it as disgusting and i fail to und... | 1,675,632,028 | Due-Lie-8710 | j7cx692 | j7cw6y8 | 2 | -1 |
CMV: Bringing back the gladiator games for convicted criminals would provide a net benefit to society.
I believe we should bring back Roman coliseum-style gladiator games and hold them in our modern stadiums, and commercialize them with corporate sponsors and advertisements.
The games could be as simple as two people... | First, you're assuming that sentencing correlates with convictions. In New York, a cocaine distributor might get 3 years; in Indiana, they'll probably get 15. In New York, a murderer might get 15 years; in Texas, it's life or death. How would this work when the sentencing system is so disparate and inequal?
Second, yo... | Stop for one second and actually try to imagine society where this is a reality. Think what the advertisements would be like, think of people talking about it, about watching matches on TV... A whole new industry, a new cultural phenomenon reveling in real bloody violence and death.
There are baseball cards, football ... | 61ioxv | CMV: Bringing back the gladiator games for convicted criminals would provide a net benefit to society. | I believe we should bring back Roman coliseum-style gladiator games and hold them in our modern stadiums, and commercialize them with corporate sponsors and advertisements.
The games could be as simple as two people fighting each other in a ring, all tricked out in WWE-like garb and trash-talking each other over the m... | 1,490,485,876 | GekkoPie | dff0vpq | dfeunoc | 20 | 14 |
CMV: I honestly do not care about racism towards white people.
For the record I am a white 35 year old male. My life as a white person has been incredibly easy... People at job interviews assume I know what I'm talking about, airport security rarely gives a shit about me, my interactions with police have all been very... | Let me take a different approach.
You say you don't care about racism against whites, but you clearly do think racism is a problem, or else you wouldn't feel so upset about the awful things happening to non whites.
You seem to be saying in your comments that you think the best way to handle this is to attack the unde... | How can you hold a standard of behavior of you can't even apply it to yourself? Racism is bad in all directions.
Just your examples of perceived white racism reek of privilege. Would you really "not care" about someone being murdered for their skin color? If you think name calling is racism you've got a lot to learn ... | e20a8q | CMV: I honestly do not care about racism towards white people. | For the record I am a white 35 year old male. My life as a white person has been incredibly easy... People at job interviews assume I know what I'm talking about, airport security rarely gives a shit about me, my interactions with police have all been very easy... It's very easy for me to say that my race has been a ne... | 1,574,785,594 | malachai926 | f8su0br | f8sqlic | 7 | 6 |
cmv: it isn't a good technique to argue vaguely
there are two classes of debaters who might argue unspecifically, the first class knows a lot on the subject and argues with the expectation that the opposition is equally as educated on the subject and understands their point of view. the second class knows little to no... | If the point of debates is to persuade an audience, then arguing vaguely is often one of the most effective techniques in a sophists' bag of tricks. Knowing your audience is a big part of debating, though, and different ways of being vague can more or less successful depending. Debates are generally not about rational ... | Isn't this only the case if no follow-up questions are permitted?
Like for your example, someone might respond with, "could you explain how Trump tried to rig the election?" and then the person making that claim can go into detail, either from memory if they are informed or by looking it up if they are uninformed. | 10ufejs | cmv: it isn't a good technique to argue vaguely | there are two classes of debaters who might argue unspecifically, the first class knows a lot on the subject and argues with the expectation that the opposition is equally as educated on the subject and understands their point of view. the second class knows little to nothing about the subject and cannot specify exampl... | 1,675,611,642 | IronSmithFE | j7bo80c | j7bi8wl | 6 | 2 |
CMV: The letters C and Q should be removed from the english alphabet.
In every instance these letters are used, there is a much simpler way of spelling them. For instance, the work quack could be spelled kwak. The letter C often just mimics the S or K sound. As for the Q, I feel as if “Kw” would be a sufficient repl... | The English language has already had the spelling modernized and simplified by experts, that's why there's difference in spelling between English English and American English on words like "color/colour". I'd say we can assume they left those letters in there for a reason.
Moreover, since English is the language of bu... | Not OP but you could easily just do "kh" or basically any other letter h. It's not like there's anything about c (or even h really) that indicates the sound that "ch" makes | iqsc3a | CMV: The letters C and Q should be removed from the english alphabet. |
In every instance these letters are used, there is a much simpler way of spelling them. For instance, the work quack could be spelled kwak. The letter C often just mimics the S or K sound. As for the Q, I feel as if “Kw” would be a sufficient replacement. The fact that q always has to be paired with the letter u at a... | 1,599,837,089 | Sohjah | g4tyqnf | g4tyh6r | 22 | 1 |
CMV: All online subscription platforms (dating apps, newspapers, games, etc.) should be required to provide the option for a one-time, non-recurring payment
Hi CMV,
I'm intentionally writing this in a way that doesn't provide specific rule proposals. The general principle I'm outlining is simply that every app or web... | It’s not the company’s responsibility to manage a consumer’s financial obligations. If you are not good about cancelling subscriptions, do not sign up for them. Subscription services can be canceled at any time, and you can continue to use the service until the end of that pay period. It shouldn’t be difficult to manag... | "Companies today make millions of dollars off of customers who forget to cancel their monthly subscriptions once they're no longer using the product"
" I simply think this is an unethical business practice."
Welcome to America. Can you please hand over all your money?
It isn't fair. It isn't ethical. But as the very... | l07byh | CMV: All online subscription platforms (dating apps, newspapers, games, etc.) should be required to provide the option for a one-time, non-recurring payment | Hi CMV,
I'm intentionally writing this in a way that doesn't provide specific rule proposals. The general principle I'm outlining is simply that every app or website that has a paid subscription version, or portions of the product that can only be accessed by paying, should be required by law to include the option for... | 1,611,014,533 | TheFakeChiefKeef | gjs1hwf | gjrwze7 | 1 | -1 |
CMV: 2001-A space odessy is far more superior to Interstellar
I always saw Interstellar as the most visually breathtaking and intellectually stimulating masterpiece when it came to space exploration.
I was mind blown with the philosophical depth of 2001: A space odessy when I watched it last year. Interstellar star... | To be clear: I think 2001 is the superior story. Where my challenge to your view lies is that it is the superior movie.
Interstellar was conceived as a story to be told on the screen from the start. All the concepts and ideas it wants to convey are designed to be communicated through visual and auditory media. Give... | Turns out it was gravity more than love. But I'm not trying to say that Interstellar is superior in all aspects in any case. It's hard to achieve something like that. Just that there were aspects of Interstellar that I found superior aside from what more advanced technology allowed. | 17mh8ar | CMV: 2001-A space odessy is far more superior to Interstellar | I always saw Interstellar as the most visually breathtaking and intellectually stimulating masterpiece when it came to space exploration.
I was mind blown with the philosophical depth of 2001: A space odessy when I watched it last year. Interstellar started to appear as a spoon-fed version of this movie, which was w... | 1,698,968,280 | my_spotless_mind | k7l8sha | k7kzgmm | 3 | 2 |
CMV: I don't think conservatives are any more prone towards conspiracy theories then left leaning folks.
I totally understand that in this day and age of Donald Trump it sure FEELS like right leaning people are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories. And the most dramatic example, about the election, clearly ha... | I guess the claim that 9% of democrats believe they are a part of a pedophile ring under cuts the argument. Clearly that is not how people interpreted that question.
That said, I think I am convinced of a correlation between conservatives and proneness to conspiracy thinking. | > It's just my impression.
That's my issue. It's oft claimed but rarely any evidence is shown for it being notably left wing and there is plenty of it on the right e.g. Q anon has a lot of new age beliefs integrated into it. | l0mqe5 | CMV: I don't think conservatives are any more prone towards conspiracy theories then left leaning folks. | I totally understand that in this day and age of Donald Trump it sure FEELS like right leaning people are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories. And the most dramatic example, about the election, clearly has a political bent. That said, I grew up in a day and age where a non-zero number of left leaning people a... | 1,611,072,169 | MasterCrumb | gjvlkph | gjuvq6p | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Violence and/or murder is sometimes necessary in order to accomplish good, positive change.
I am an 8th grade U.S. History teacher. Over the last week, my students have been reading primary documents and background on Nat Turner. At the end of today, they were to answer the question of "Do you feel Nat Turner i... | Firstly, we like "heroic" stories. People rising against injustice, winning against all odds. That's like the stereotypical hero story. In reality this usually gets people killed because you are no hero but some random NPC that gets slaugthered if you overstep the line. And even the common heroes like MLK get murdered ... | While all that is true, do you think Turner's actions could have had farther reaching consequences? I don't personally know the history of this particular story well, but many major changes to society have happened only after someone can point to a martyr or two. Only after you bring repeated attention to an atrocity.
... | 86nbeu | CMV: Violence and/or murder is sometimes necessary in order to accomplish good, positive change. | I am an 8th grade U.S. History teacher. Over the last week, my students have been reading primary documents and background on Nat Turner. At the end of today, they were to answer the question of "Do you feel Nat Turner is a hero or a madman?" The students vote on this. While some are on the fence, I instruct them t... | 1,521,832,674 | jakefake3 | dw6oc4n | dw6nglx | 3 | 2 |
CMV: No new anti-terrorism legislation is needed to respond to the January 6th events. The police and surveillance state is already expensive & well fundedenough
This was a failure of leadership and personnel, not the result of systemic limitations that prevented those agencies from guarding the Capitol. The agencies ... | >This was a failure of leadership and personnel, not the result of systematic limitations that prevented those agencies from guarding the Capitol.
It strikes me as poor risk-management to me then. If a pilot on a plane makes a mistake that leads to a disaster you don’t say “well the plane is safe enough it was just th... | For the record i am from the UK and live in the UK so my understanding of the event is limited.
It appears from my perspective that the measures in place should have essentially been that help was asked for from the local police because they knew a protest was going to occur and that trump should have called in help t... | l0mg6m | CMV: No new anti-terrorism legislation is needed to respond to the January 6th events. The police and surveillance state is already expensive & well fundedenough | This was a failure of leadership and personnel, not the result of systemic limitations that prevented those agencies from guarding the Capitol. The agencies had all the tools and resources they needed to stop it, no new legislation is needed.
Past anti terror legislation in the united states and abroad has resulted i... | 1,611,071,331 | Aggressive-Meat4639 | gjul3qr | gjua14d | 15 | 5 |
CMV: In order to curb obesity, restaurants should have to put a label on foods giving the average number of hours that food keeps you feeling full for from a baseline standard
Here it is. Restaurants should have to put a label on foods giving the average number of hours that food keeps you feeling full for from a base... | This is a terrible guideline.
Calories are a good measurement tool and they already have calorie counts at many restaurants.
Satiation will vary widely based on how recently you have eaten, your BMR, how active you are, and what food you are eating.
Plus, you would need different times for different ingredients. ... | Why is feeling full a useful metric for reducing obesity? A soda keeps you full approximately as long as water keeps you full. A steak will keep you full about as long as beans and rice.
What foods you choose to fill up with are more important than how long you stay full. | 86o0qo | CMV: In order to curb obesity, restaurants should have to put a label on foods giving the average number of hours that food keeps you feeling full for from a baseline standard | Here it is. Restaurants should have to put a label on foods giving the average number of hours that food keeps you feeling full for from a baseline standard. This will be useful in curbing obesity.
Anticipated objections:
1) Foods keep people full for different periods of time because metabolism varies
This is an a... | 1,521,838,183 | ijrjtpk | dw6kvcn | dw6klw8 | 13 | 9 |
CMV: The American wealth tax will have a negative impact on the stock market, bonds market, and other asset classesthat many middle-class folks depend on for their retirement and savings accounts.
The ultra rich's wealth is invested in the same public markets that our pensions, 401k's, IRA's and other savings accounts... | There are definitely options here that wouldn't affect the stock market the way you say. Perhaps instead of implementing the tax as a cash payment to the government, the tax could instead be paid by giving a portion of stocks or other securities directly to the treasury or Federal Reserve. The government can then put... | While it might have a negative impact, the impact may encourage people with a lot of stocks and bonds to invest their wealth directly into corporations themselves in the form of equity (a riskier asset).
We actually have a savings glut globally (which explains the low or negative interest rates worldwide) within the f... | e1yzfm | CMV: The American wealth tax will have a negative impact on the stock market, bonds market, and other asset classesthat many middle-class folks depend on for their retirement and savings accounts. | The ultra rich's wealth is invested in the same public markets that our pensions, 401k's, IRA's and other savings accounts are also exposed to. They don't have billions under their mattress to pay a wealth tax year after year so they would have to sell some of those investments to cover the tax bill. This will drive do... | 1,574,780,054 | iearn_man | f8sk1fu | f8shsyi | 0 | -2 |
CMV: Andrew Yang's plan to give all Americans $1,000 per month would do little more than dramatically increase rent prices and other prices as well.
It seems like a universal and equal influx of cash like that without a change in supply will only lead to higher prices. Especially in areas like housing, etc. Most peopl... | Another benefit of UBI would be to raise wages and perhaps get more people off of welfare to work even if that is counter-intuitive.
For people making near minimum wage the thousand bucks a month would be practically as much as they are making now. If they are content with things they could just stay home. That will f... | Okay there are two ways of thinking of Universal Basic Income or UBI and it's more from a bureaucratic position than a money system.
Let's say you have to give money to poor people so they won't starve. You've tried proposing killing them but it polled poorly. So you are stuck giving poor people money.
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Now... | b3qc4e | CMV: Andrew Yang's plan to give all Americans $1,000 per month would do little more than dramatically increase rent prices and other prices as well. | It seems like a universal and equal influx of cash like that without a change in supply will only lead to higher prices. Especially in areas like housing, etc. Most people it seems, who are renters, given an extra $1k/mo would want to move to a nicer apartment. Given a much higher demand for nicer apartments, landlords... | 1,553,173,769 | jollyrogerninja | ej1dvvf | ej1bkjo | 1,679 | 146 |
CMV:Paying for sex shouldn't be seen as a flaw in one's Character nor should it be seen as disgusting
I think as long as consent can be gotten from both parties and the sex worker isnt being trafficked , I don't think this should be used as a judgment of one's character or be shamed in any way, I have seen alot of pe... | Firstly, i'm not religious, i'm sex-positive and the sex lives of strangers rarely concerns me. I don't think paying for these services makes you a "bad" person, nor a "disgusting" one.. but for me, it would affect your desirability to me as a partner. To me attraction is a big thing, and i'll be honest, I see it as ki... | >You're missing a premise that separates transactional sex from trafficking or consent.
Monogamy is a natural human construct. It's seen numerous different animals - we are not unique in that sense. It's what created our societies. There is an inherent societal reliance on familial progression for stability. We can't ... | 10unvlh | CMV:Paying for sex shouldn't be seen as a flaw in one's Character nor should it be seen as disgusting | I think as long as consent can be gotten from both parties and the sex worker isnt being trafficked , I don't think this should be used as a judgment of one's character or be shamed in any way, I have seen alot of people shame people more specifically men who pay for sex , they view it as disgusting and i fail to und... | 1,675,632,028 | Due-Lie-8710 | j7d5jnj | j7d57rs | 36 | 2 |
CMV: The "Mediocre White Man" idea that some on the left like to promote is toxic, divisive and, if enough people buy into it, outright dangerous
This CMV is partly inspired by a conversation I saw on Reddit a couple of weeks ago where a male user was repeatedly putting himself down and a female user was not exactly d... | I get the impression that the leftists who push this idea, if there are any (I've never encountered the idea except right here), think they're reducing racism by these efforts. By getting white men to see themselves at their actual level, instead of with the boost society gives them for their whiteness.
My own feelin... | >If a person did this and talked about mediocre black women (or any other identity) who blame others for their problems
Well, I do think POC *might* have a bit of a point that society *does* still have some problems with racism that *might* cause them some issues... | 17ma6nr | CMV: The "Mediocre White Man" idea that some on the left like to promote is toxic, divisive and, if enough people buy into it, outright dangerous | This CMV is partly inspired by a conversation I saw on Reddit a couple of weeks ago where a male user was repeatedly putting himself down and a female user was not exactly doing anything to disabuse him of the notion that he's some sort of failure.
It was upsetting to see somebody who, based on the comments, really h... | 1,698,949,774 | ICuriosityCatI | k7k8xep | k7jo2ek | -11 | -12 |
CMV: Porn is normal and does not have a negative effect on people or society when used moderately.
I was having a discussion with my friend the other day. She has watched porn but does not use it on a regular basis. Her reason being that it has a negative effect on people, due to it's misogynistic and rapey vibes. The... | Take the example of anal sex in porn. It is portrayed as being able to be done with no prep and no protection. This teaches harmful messages, which are almost never, ever, covered in sexual health educations given in schools--if one is even given at all. The big takeaway is that many boys want to try anal sex because o... | Your anecdotal evidence about encounters (which I'm sure you observed objectively) have no bearing on most men.
Most men are not repeating porn terms in public for any reason. Let alone talking about anything they saw in porn ever. Talking about anything related to porn is not widespread.
However you're not just sa... | 68fihe | CMV: Porn is normal and does not have a negative effect on people or society when used moderately. | I was having a discussion with my friend the other day. She has watched porn but does not use it on a regular basis. Her reason being that it has a negative effect on people, due to it's misogynistic and rapey vibes. These vibes (according to her) has a negative impact on how people perceive sex, intimacy, and relation... | 1,493,559,878 | Nylnin | dgyngls | dgyjmk9 | 9 | 0 |
CMV: The media and leftist portion of the world is giving the New Zealand terrorist EXACTLY what he wanted.
The shooter directly stated that his goal was to push social divisiveness. He also obviously pushed this himself by calling out pewdiepie, Candice Owens and President Trump, people he admits he disagrees with, f... | Is it possible that you're giving him what he wants? It could be that he is the standard white nationalist who killed some Muslims because simply he doesn't like Muslims immigrating to New Zealand. And his ideology is similar to most people who don't like Islam such as the people he mentions in his manifesto. And becau... | His views are not far left, he is a white nationalist. The right wing media including Fox News and pundits like Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris, etc. have pushed this anti-immigration and anti-muslim bigotry that the shooter believed in. What he said in his manifesto is repeated by right wingers everyday.
Che... | b3moe0 | CMV: The media and leftist portion of the world is giving the New Zealand terrorist EXACTLY what he wanted. | The shooter directly stated that his goal was to push social divisiveness. He also obviously pushed this himself by calling out pewdiepie, Candice Owens and President Trump, people he admits he disagrees with, for no other reason than to cause outrage. The media and leftists have embraced his call to outrage by the med... | 1,553,145,571 | luckyhunterdude | ej0ss69 | ej0odzo | 13 | 0 |
CMV: The fundamental argument for expansive gun rights, to uphold a stable democracy against potentially violent tyranny, is fundamentally flawed because gun ownership is extremely imbalanced between increasingly polarized political factions.
If we really boil down the strong argument for gun rights, it's that society... | > Inasmuch as possessing lethal force could affect the governance of our society, this imbalanced distribution seems to risk undermining stable democracy more than it upholds it.
I absolutely agree monopolizing the use of lethal force to certain demographics can create instability. But I'd like to introduce the idea ... | That is another fairy tale that conservatives like to believe in. After watching wars in places like Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Somalia, etc. one can see that in most lethal attacks guerrillas and terrorists make use of IED which are often based on artillery ammunition. Other popular choices are mortars, rocket launche... | 867ouo | CMV: The fundamental argument for expansive gun rights, to uphold a stable democracy against potentially violent tyranny, is fundamentally flawed because gun ownership is extremely imbalanced between increasingly polarized political factions. | If we really boil down the strong argument for gun rights, it's that society is made more stable when the populace can check the power of government. Throughout history, bad, violent people get too much physical power and use it to oppress others. Proponents of gun rights argue that distributing that power among the pe... | 1,521,681,192 | daveberzack | dw4px26 | dw3cgmr | 1 | 0 |
CMV: A work of art must be able to be separated from the artist, like an invention from its inventor or a business from its founder. No matter the crimes of the creator, the art should be able to stand on its own feet and continue to be enjoyed, not censored.
First some imaginary examples to prove my point. Let’s say ... | Okay, you've got a couple different arguments here.
First, I want to open saying that I believe in Death of the Author. In the case of Lovecraft, what he did with stories hasn't changed. Ender's Game is still one of my favorite books I've ever read. Throwing out inventions and scientific progress would be ridiculous, ... | I believe there are two reasons to why someone’s art is banned after the discovery of their crimes.
The first is, contrary to the majority of science’s discoveries, art is majoritively more personal, often driven by personal reasons. HP Lovecraft was quite racist and certain of his ideas can be found in his art, even... | l0omtp | CMV: A work of art must be able to be separated from the artist, like an invention from its inventor or a business from its founder. No matter the crimes of the creator, the art should be able to stand on its own feet and continue to be enjoyed, not censored. | First some imaginary examples to prove my point. Let’s say Elon Musk or the Ferrari CEO turn out to be pedophiles. Should car dealers stop selling Teslas and Ferraris? I don’t think so. Or let’s say a scientist who discovers the cure for cancer turns out to be a nazi. Should the world no longer use their cure? Again, i... | 1,611,077,485 | trudlymadlydeeplyme | gjuryd6 | gjur1o7 | 3 | 2 |
CMV: The media and leftist portion of the world is giving the New Zealand terrorist EXACTLY what he wanted.
The shooter directly stated that his goal was to push social divisiveness. He also obviously pushed this himself by calling out pewdiepie, Candice Owens and President Trump, people he admits he disagrees with, f... | I have the manifesto pulled up right now. He directly says that he is anti-conservative, anti-capitalist, pro-socialist, and pro-china. | Have you done anything other than watch mainstream news?
Read the manifesto. You dont need anybody to tell you what to think if you just think for yourself. | b3moe0 | CMV: The media and leftist portion of the world is giving the New Zealand terrorist EXACTLY what he wanted. | The shooter directly stated that his goal was to push social divisiveness. He also obviously pushed this himself by calling out pewdiepie, Candice Owens and President Trump, people he admits he disagrees with, for no other reason than to cause outrage. The media and leftists have embraced his call to outrage by the med... | 1,553,145,571 | luckyhunterdude | ej0q117 | ej0ofe4 | 4 | -3 |
CMV: Maxine Waters should be impeached and charged with inciting violence.
Waters said: “We’ve got to stay on the street and we’ve got to get more active, we’ve got to get more confrontational. We’ve got to make sure that they know that we mean business.”
Freedom of speech does not allow you to incite violence.
[h... | Why does it matter if it is conditional?
If I give a speech before a Florida vs FSU game telling the Florida fans to burn everything down if Florida loses. Does it make it ok if Florida ends up winning? | I haven't paid particular attention to this story, so can you clarify: Wasn't the statement you quoted *conditional* upon Chauvin being found not guilty? Like, she wasn't saying protesters need to get more confrontational *now*. She was saying they needed to get more confrontational *if* Chauvin is found not guilty. | mupfdm | CMV: Maxine Waters should be impeached and charged with inciting violence. | Waters said: “We’ve got to stay on the street and we’ve got to get more active, we’ve got to get more confrontational. We’ve got to make sure that they know that we mean business.”
Freedom of speech does not allow you to incite violence.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent\_lawless\_action](https://en.wikipedia... | 1,618,922,521 | barbodelli | gv71vqz | gv71mka | 9 | 3 |
CMV: I don't think conservatives are any more prone towards conspiracy theories then left leaning folks.
I totally understand that in this day and age of Donald Trump it sure FEELS like right leaning people are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories. And the most dramatic example, about the election, clearly ha... | I'll add 2 lesser or indirect things:
1) I think it's noteworthy than the current leader of the Republican Party, Donald Trump, was infamous for promoting conspiracy theories even before he was elected: Birtherism, Ted Cruz's father involved in JFK assassination, Iowa Primary was rigged, climate change is a Chinese ho... | One key word is "historical."
Demographics of the left and right are constantly shifting, and in particular a [massive education gap](https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2016/04/26/a-wider-ideological-gap-between-more-and-less-educated-adults/) has recently opened between the ideological extremes.
>That said, I grew... | l0mqe5 | CMV: I don't think conservatives are any more prone towards conspiracy theories then left leaning folks. | I totally understand that in this day and age of Donald Trump it sure FEELS like right leaning people are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories. And the most dramatic example, about the election, clearly has a political bent. That said, I grew up in a day and age where a non-zero number of left leaning people a... | 1,611,072,169 | MasterCrumb | gjugur9 | gjugqfv | 15 | 1 |
CMV: The media and leftist portion of the world is giving the New Zealand terrorist EXACTLY what he wanted.
The shooter directly stated that his goal was to push social divisiveness. He also obviously pushed this himself by calling out pewdiepie, Candice Owens and President Trump, people he admits he disagrees with, f... | If the shooter was really a far-left person with a hidden agenda of "framing" the right, why would he post a **manifesto** in which he clearly shows this is exactly what he is doing?
Isn't it far more likely that the manifesto, full of contradictions and rambling, is the work of an insane person? | What specifically did he say that has given you the impression that he is pro-socialism or pro-communist? He very explicitly calls for violence against Marxists/communists.
And of course he would be anti-conservative and anti-capitalist. He's a far-right fascist. Conservatives and capitalists are to the left of him. | b3moe0 | CMV: The media and leftist portion of the world is giving the New Zealand terrorist EXACTLY what he wanted. | The shooter directly stated that his goal was to push social divisiveness. He also obviously pushed this himself by calling out pewdiepie, Candice Owens and President Trump, people he admits he disagrees with, for no other reason than to cause outrage. The media and leftists have embraced his call to outrage by the med... | 1,553,145,571 | luckyhunterdude | ej0uo03 | ej0r5qu | 8 | 4 |
CMV: The American wealth tax will have a negative impact on the stock market, bonds market, and other asset classesthat many middle-class folks depend on for their retirement and savings accounts.
The ultra rich's wealth is invested in the same public markets that our pensions, 401k's, IRA's and other savings accounts... | The simple argument for demand side economics is that if 1 million people are spending an extra $200 a month that's $200 a million going directly into the economy, boosting demand and company revenues, boosting the value of the company and thier stock prices.
200 million in some bank account on the other hand, makes f... | While it might have a negative impact, the impact may encourage people with a lot of stocks and bonds to invest their wealth directly into corporations themselves in the form of equity (a riskier asset).
We actually have a savings glut globally (which explains the low or negative interest rates worldwide) within the f... | e1yzfm | CMV: The American wealth tax will have a negative impact on the stock market, bonds market, and other asset classesthat many middle-class folks depend on for their retirement and savings accounts. | The ultra rich's wealth is invested in the same public markets that our pensions, 401k's, IRA's and other savings accounts are also exposed to. They don't have billions under their mattress to pay a wealth tax year after year so they would have to sell some of those investments to cover the tax bill. This will drive do... | 1,574,780,054 | iearn_man | f8skjxr | f8shsyi | 5 | -2 |
CMV: Puberty blockers should be given as standard course to all on the eve of puberty
From what I hear puberty blockers have a completely reversible effect and stopping to take them will start a delayed puberty with the same end result; there is no known medical way right now to reverse puberty. Therefore simple logic... | I'll admit I might be missing some greater purpose, but some quick Googling and I don't really see the point. You essentially want to force 100% of people to take medication(That costs 700-1500 a month with one option or $15000 a year with another, would likely decrease with mandatory use but still, it's a minor surger... | There’s concerns over giving them to even the kids that are struggling with their gender because of there’s a complete lack of knowledge when it comes to how safe they are and what their long term effects are. There’s a possibility they stunt bone growth, effect fertility and stunt brain development.
There’s a reason ... | e1ww1p | CMV: Puberty blockers should be given as standard course to all on the eve of puberty | From what I hear puberty blockers have a completely reversible effect and stopping to take them will start a delayed puberty with the same end result; there is no known medical way right now to reverse puberty. Therefore simple logic dictate that as a matter of standard procedure the more flexible path that can go into... | 1,574,768,902 | Erens_rock_hard_abs | f8s6u94 | f8s6061 | 12 | 11 |
Cmv: Calling for a ceasefire without supporting an alternative way for hamas to be destroyed, means you believe israel cant exist.
And if israel has no right to wage war against hamas, which openly calls for the destruction of israel, then israel has no right to wage against anyone who believes they should not exist.
... | Step A is false. Ceasefire ≠ no war against Hamas. Ceasefire = no war.
If Israel stops fighting and Hamas attacks again, then Israel can retaliate again. Ceasefire doesn’t mean they’re never allowed to attack Hamas again. It just means to stop the current attack. | > israel has no right to wage against anyone who believes they should not exist.
It's not about belief, but action. You can believe what you want, no matter how repellent. You should be able to tell others. But not fire rockets to kill. | 17melpk | Cmv: Calling for a ceasefire without supporting an alternative way for hamas to be destroyed, means you believe israel cant exist. | And if israel has no right to wage war against hamas, which openly calls for the destruction of israel, then israel has no right to wage against anyone who believes they should not exist.
And if israel has no right to wage war agaisnt anyone who wages war agaisnt them, believing that israel has no right to exist, then... | 1,698,961,253 | Signal_District387 | k7lmsa0 | k7kqk29 | 1 | -1 |
CMV: The media and leftist portion of the world is giving the New Zealand terrorist EXACTLY what he wanted.
The shooter directly stated that his goal was to push social divisiveness. He also obviously pushed this himself by calling out pewdiepie, Candice Owens and President Trump, people he admits he disagrees with, f... | He directly says he is pro-communist. I don't understand why this is a argument. Like you said, point by point I have the manifesto pulled up right now. He's anti-conservative, Anti-capitalist, pro-socialist, pro-communist, racist, and insane. If you want to refute 1 might as well refute them all. | Have you done anything other than watch mainstream news?
Read the manifesto. You dont need anybody to tell you what to think if you just think for yourself. | b3moe0 | CMV: The media and leftist portion of the world is giving the New Zealand terrorist EXACTLY what he wanted. | The shooter directly stated that his goal was to push social divisiveness. He also obviously pushed this himself by calling out pewdiepie, Candice Owens and President Trump, people he admits he disagrees with, for no other reason than to cause outrage. The media and leftists have embraced his call to outrage by the med... | 1,553,145,571 | luckyhunterdude | ej0qbki | ej0ofe4 | 4 | -3 |
CMV: We don't have the evidence to assert that genocide is taking place in Xinjiang
Disclaimer: this is not a pro-China/CCP post. As an expat who lived in China for several years, I'm aware of the existence of the camps in Xinjiang and do not doubt that certain human rights abuses are taking place.
With that said, I... | Here is a report by a thinktank for you to digest [https://newlinesinstitute.org/uyghurs/the-uyghur-genocide-an-examination-of-chinas-breaches-of-the-1948-genocide-convention/](https://newlinesinstitute.org/uyghurs/the-uyghur-genocide-an-examination-of-chinas-breaches-of-the-1948-genocide-convention/), which explains ... | Maybe not en masse and maybe not recently but america has definitely locked up people for suspected of being potential terrorists. And america has definitely locked up whole groups of people for being a perceived threat as well. And america has definitely plainly and openly discriminated against entire groups of peop... | muiym0 | CMV: We don't have the evidence to assert that genocide is taking place in Xinjiang | Disclaimer: this is not a pro-China/CCP post. As an expat who lived in China for several years, I'm aware of the existence of the camps in Xinjiang and do not doubt that certain human rights abuses are taking place.
With that said, I believe that the international community lacks the evidence to make the assertion th... | 1,618,894,302 | Apprehensive-Cat3472 | gv7zxkd | gv69so0 | 1 | 0 |
CMV: Most of contemporary social issues stems from a lack of feminist values
Masculine values tend to put emphasis on risk-taking, individualism, competition, independence, performance, self-reliance, initiative, self-direction.
Feminine values tend to put emphasis on kindness and care, sharing, helping the weak and ... | Feminine values =/= feminist values.
Feminism is pretty much about dismantling the notion that women are all those things you described them with.
The idea that you give, that we need to appreciate womenhood for the values you mentioned is something you usually hear from convservatives, not feminists. | > giving power to women seems like the simplest answer to society's problems like violence, inequality, lack of personal development and mental illness
What do you think giving power to someone looks like? It's in part the ability to employ violence and coercion. If you want to reduce inequality, you're going to have ... | mus7c0 | CMV: Most of contemporary social issues stems from a lack of feminist values | Masculine values tend to put emphasis on risk-taking, individualism, competition, independence, performance, self-reliance, initiative, self-direction.
Feminine values tend to put emphasis on kindness and care, sharing, helping the weak and people in need, socialization and social interaction, organization and communi... | 1,618,930,666 | all_is_love6667 | gv7jhpc | gv7jegd | 19 | 3 |
CMV: Trans people wouldn't exist if it weren't for a society with limiting gender norms.
I think the idea of transgenderism is that your inner person has to match your genitals right? But that perception is based on the idea that the genitals have some bearing on a person's heart or mind at all. We are taught that if ... | Hi there, archeology enthousiast speaking :)
Ok let me get this up front first; Trans people have always existed. Throughout the entirety of history. The very first sex change was done on Lili Elbe, in 1930. That's almost a century ago, which means that before actual sex changes, trans people have been very real and v... | > I think the idea of transgenderism is that your inner person has to match your genitals right? But that perception is based on the idea that the genitals have some bearing on a person's heart or mind at all. We are taught that if you like certain things, its because you have a vagina, and if you dislike those things,... | e1uif8 | CMV: Trans people wouldn't exist if it weren't for a society with limiting gender norms. | I think the idea of transgenderism is that your inner person has to match your genitals right? But that perception is based on the idea that the genitals have some bearing on a person's heart or mind at all. We are taught that if you like certain things, its because you have a vagina, and if you dislike those things, y... | 1,574,752,844 | nuthanger_farm | f8s13ju | f8rzi28 | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Free Will Doesn't Exist
Okay, so I'm going to condense a few very weighty arguments down to a relatively condensed bit of text. Likewise, I am assuming a certain level of understanding of the classical arguments for determinism and will not be explaining them to a high level of depth.
Laplace's Daemon
In this... | I feel like I want to report this as a Rule B violation as a method of challenging your view. If there is no free will, then we cannot change your view, as we have no agency in that at all. Basically, you did ask, and you wrote out arguments meant to convince people that your position is unassailable. These are acti... | Do you see a difference between “free” and “uncaused”?
I think most of the problems of free will come from its definition. Personally, I don’t see guaranteed opposition between “caused” and “free”.
Imagine a person who inherently wants to steal. They don’t choose to be that way, it’s their “natural wiring”. However, ... | 17me0tj | CMV: Free Will Doesn't Exist | Okay, so I'm going to condense a few very weighty arguments down to a relatively condensed bit of text. Likewise, I am assuming a certain level of understanding of the classical arguments for determinism and will not be explaining them to a high level of depth.
Laplace's Daemon
In this argument, mathematician and p... | 1,698,959,726 | ChamplainLesser | k7kfs0e | k7kfk3w | 19 | 1 |
CMV: English should not be a required course in high school
In the United States, English is a required course, the passing of which is necessary for your promotion to the next grade level. This, in itself, makes perfect sense. It is the language primarily spoken in this country, and if you cannot adequately speak it,... | I think English is important because it is a way to learn about the world inside your own mind. Physical sciences, history, ethics, they all focus on our interaction with the outside world. Literature allows us to create and explore the mental world of not only ourselves, but of Shakespeare and Tolkien. Our brains have... | >A student is often asked, “what is the author’s purpose in writing such-and-such.” This particular topic bothers me, as well. There is the stereotypical example of an English teacher saying that an author made curtains blue to represent sadness, but this is, in my experience, complete BS. The author, in the vast major... | 697qa9 | CMV: English should not be a required course in high school | In the United States, English is a required course, the passing of which is necessary for your promotion to the next grade level. This, in itself, makes perfect sense. It is the language primarily spoken in this country, and if you cannot adequately speak it, there is absolutely no reason why you should advance in your... | 1,493,907,137 | kkoopman3 | dh4fk32 | dh4ecih | 7 | 1 |
CMV: The finale for Parks and Recreation, and the last third of the series in general are terrible
So basically the series Parks and Recreation started off as a realistic portrayal of government life of a non-essential branch of government at a small town. As the series progressed it became more interested in landing ... | > In other words, her character isn't that relatable because she is too perfectly written.
This is true. It's hard to relate to Leslie because she is so insanely competent and hardworking. However I don't think this makes her a bad character. Leslie is a beacon of light in what used to be a bleak and dreary government... | The office is a show driven by growth in relationships (Jim and Pam, Michael and Holly, Dwight and Angela). While Parks and Rec is a show driven by growth in career (Leslie, Ben, Tom, April, Andy). While both have aspects of the other they are quite different in this regard.
Parks and Rec makes the same "unrealistic"... | 866h6z | CMV: The finale for Parks and Recreation, and the last third of the series in general are terrible | So basically the series Parks and Recreation started off as a realistic portrayal of government life of a non-essential branch of government at a small town. As the series progressed it became more interested in landing the joke rather than maintaining that same feel of realism that was seen in the first season.
a) L... | 1,521,671,132 | ijrjtpk | dw2ynmf | dw2vwak | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The American wealth tax will have a negative impact on the stock market, bonds market, and other asset classesthat many middle-class folks depend on for their retirement and savings accounts.
The ultra rich's wealth is invested in the same public markets that our pensions, 401k's, IRA's and other savings accounts... | Roughly half of the US has any kind of stock exposure (either through their own stocks and 401ks or through pension expectation). That is half of americans (and likely definitionally half of the middle class by any logical definition) have 0 direct exposure to the stock market.
Of those who do, roughly 6% of the stock... | **Just for reference: Billion seconds is 31.7 years. A Trillion seconds is 317 Centuries....**
I'll just talk about the [15 richest Americans](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Americans_by_net_worth), just for ease of doing the math...
* They have $921.9 Billion in net worth.
* Under Warren's plan they would hav... | e1yzfm | CMV: The American wealth tax will have a negative impact on the stock market, bonds market, and other asset classesthat many middle-class folks depend on for their retirement and savings accounts. | The ultra rich's wealth is invested in the same public markets that our pensions, 401k's, IRA's and other savings accounts are also exposed to. They don't have billions under their mattress to pay a wealth tax year after year so they would have to sell some of those investments to cover the tax bill. This will drive do... | 1,574,780,054 | iearn_man | f8vt62s | f8sn6kn | 1 | -1 |
CMV: Tommy Robinson's new Youtube channel should not be demonetised.
So Tommy Robinson's fairly recent youtube channel "TR. News" is demonetised with comment section disabled and a warning placed over it. Given these unusual warning signs, i was expecting something extreme and politically controversial. I haven't been... | Im going to try and give a little more fair context.
Tommy Robinson was the leader of the Movement "The English Defence League" or EDL. I believe he started it or at least grew it. It was a primarily right wing working class movement. As time went on it became a more and more violent movement. As the violence increase... | I personally think that all of youtube should be demonetized. social media influencers as a lifestyle profession is degenerate by its nature. everyone's competing for a piece of pie rather than helping to bake it. it's not behavior that should be endorsed or encouraged. | iqjzyx | CMV: Tommy Robinson's new Youtube channel should not be demonetised. | So Tommy Robinson's fairly recent youtube channel "TR. News" is demonetised with comment section disabled and a warning placed over it. Given these unusual warning signs, i was expecting something extreme and politically controversial. I haven't been following Tommy Robinson at all prior to finding this channel. But a ... | 1,599,799,377 | TalkShow_Ghost | g4tps01 | g4tla0c | 2 | 1 |
CMV: A life in prison isn’t worth living, and thus prisoners should be afforded the right to end it
Maybe I’m feeling extra pessimistic, but there are some situations one can’t escape from. A juvenile sentenced to life in prison, for example, will essentially have a life devoid of any sort of empathy or human emotion ... | I'm going to assume you are referring to the prison system in the US for reference. In that case, it is undeniable that the conditions faced by many prisoners are abysmal, and it is particularly heinous to expose juveniles to such conditions.
If the basic premise of incarceration is to rehabilitate individuals so the... | > Prisoners should be afforded a humane way out— it seems awful but imagine dealing with severe health issues or mental illness while serving a life sentence. It’s practically torture.
I feel like this is a consequence of the American "justice" system. American prisoners aren't in prison to be rehabilitated, but rath... | iqp6av | CMV: A life in prison isn’t worth living, and thus prisoners should be afforded the right to end it | Maybe I’m feeling extra pessimistic, but there are some situations one can’t escape from. A juvenile sentenced to life in prison, for example, will essentially have a life devoid of any sort of empathy or human emotion other than despair. What’s the point of living? One tries to kill themselves in prison and they are p... | 1,599,825,971 | bluelizardK | g4th1x7 | g4tf97r | 66 | 0 |
CMV: The finale for Parks and Recreation, and the last third of the series in general are terrible
So basically the series Parks and Recreation started off as a realistic portrayal of government life of a non-essential branch of government at a small town. As the series progressed it became more interested in landing ... | Parks and Rec is a comedy. Like The Office, it's meant to be an over-the-top *exaggeration* of reality, not reality.
If you wanted it to be realistic, I can see why you wouldn't like it, but that seems like an unreasonable expectation for a comedy.
That said...
>By the end of the series, Leslie Knope is thrown one... | Seems like you're complaining about a tone shift in the show from S1 compared to all other seasons. Your mistake is using S1 as the baseline of what the show should be instead of using all the other seasons. Pilot seasons are experiments of writers, producers and actors trying to figure out what works. The seasons that... | 866h6z | CMV: The finale for Parks and Recreation, and the last third of the series in general are terrible | So basically the series Parks and Recreation started off as a realistic portrayal of government life of a non-essential branch of government at a small town. As the series progressed it became more interested in landing the joke rather than maintaining that same feel of realism that was seen in the first season.
a) L... | 1,521,671,132 | ijrjtpk | dw2s57r | dw2qxm7 | 77 | 18 |
CMV: Ask Culture is better than Guess Culture
The concept of Ask and Guess Culture is described [here](https://ask.metafilter.com/55153/Whats-the-middle-ground-between-FU-and-Welcome#830421). It has been discussed in various other places too. I'll assume you're familiar with the concept.
I'll pretend that it is a bi... | It's my opinion that, just like everything, the true best option lies somewhere in between, or a combo of the two.
The problem with ask culture is it puts people on the spot. It doesn't eliminate the need for good social skills, because there still is a good deal of guess work that goes on. With Ask culture, yo... | > That depends on what they sacrifice to avoid awkwardness. If the price is that it takes tremendous mind-reading and rituals to communicate what you and others want, then I think the awkwardness is the lesser evil.
Indeed, so the answer is "it depends", rather than:
>CMV: Ask Culture is better than Guess Culture
R... | iqlnsr | CMV: Ask Culture is better than Guess Culture | The concept of Ask and Guess Culture is described [here](https://ask.metafilter.com/55153/Whats-the-middle-ground-between-FU-and-Welcome#830421). It has been discussed in various other places too. I'll assume you're familiar with the concept.
I'll pretend that it is a binary thing rather than a continuum, and that ev... | 1,599,807,612 | SpectrumDT | g4tikab | g4tg3ow | 8 | 1 |
CMV: Joe Biden's campaign is shady
First off, I don't hate Joe Biden. I became voting age in 2007 and the only two votes I've ever cast were for Obama. Now I (sort of) like Trump, but would rather see things return to more 'normal' with someone smart and boring.
But Joe Biden isn't that guy. I'm looking for sharp, l... | >So why would he risk wasting the whole democratic nomination if he isn't really fit to lead?
My question to you is do clips of him losing his train of thought make him unfit to lead? He's in front of camera all the time and he's getting older. Memory lapses are a normal part of aging, they're only a problem if you do... | 1. He isn't on a pattern of decline. He may occasionally screw up a speech, but a downward pattern would have to be established for this to be plausible. Since he delivered his speech for the convention very well, and hasn't been consistently failing interviews and so forth more often, this just doesn't hold up.
2. Ha... | iqk73b | CMV: Joe Biden's campaign is shady | First off, I don't hate Joe Biden. I became voting age in 2007 and the only two votes I've ever cast were for Obama. Now I (sort of) like Trump, but would rather see things return to more 'normal' with someone smart and boring.
But Joe Biden isn't that guy. I'm looking for sharp, logical, intellectual, those sorts of... | 1,599,800,237 | writeidiaz | g4sp4vh | g4soiq9 | 7 | 1 |
CMV: A life in prison isn’t worth living, and thus prisoners should be afforded the right to end it
Maybe I’m feeling extra pessimistic, but there are some situations one can’t escape from. A juvenile sentenced to life in prison, for example, will essentially have a life devoid of any sort of empathy or human emotion ... | >A juvenile sentenced to life in prison, for example, will essentially have a life devoid of any sort of empathy or human emotion other than despair. What’s the point of living? One tries to kill themselves in prison and they are punished instead of supported. Why so? There’s no point to life inside a cage with 24/7 ps... | > Prisoners should be afforded a humane way out— it seems awful but imagine dealing with severe health issues or mental illness while serving a life sentence. It’s practically torture.
I feel like this is a consequence of the American "justice" system. American prisoners aren't in prison to be rehabilitated, but rath... | iqp6av | CMV: A life in prison isn’t worth living, and thus prisoners should be afforded the right to end it | Maybe I’m feeling extra pessimistic, but there are some situations one can’t escape from. A juvenile sentenced to life in prison, for example, will essentially have a life devoid of any sort of empathy or human emotion other than despair. What’s the point of living? One tries to kill themselves in prison and they are p... | 1,599,825,971 | bluelizardK | g4tgfhb | g4tf97r | 125 | 0 |
CMV: Minimum wage should be a state issue, not a federal one
I was talking to some boy online recently and he convinced me that minimum wage increases should be made at the state and local levels as opposed to the federal level, which a lot of people are advocating. His reasoning, which I found convincing, was thus:
... | Minimum wage ***is*** set on a local level. The federal minimum is the bare minimum that any wage is allowed to be. There might be a few rare exceptions in the midwest, but for the most part, the federal minimum wage sets the bare minimum wage country-wide, and then each state, county, city, etc. sets higher minimum wa... | The problem with doing it at the state level is the same as letting states decide discrimination laws. What we want is a guarantee at the Federal level so even if some states haven't yet caught up with not being racist, they will still be pushed in the right direction.
So how do we do this without hurting rural busine... | 86kcs8 | CMV: Minimum wage should be a state issue, not a federal one | I was talking to some boy online recently and he convinced me that minimum wage increases should be made at the state and local levels as opposed to the federal level, which a lot of people are advocating. His reasoning, which I found convincing, was thus:
1. Having a flat increase across the country would hurt small... | 1,521,809,274 | BeeLamb | dw5qy1s | dw5q9ux | 23 | 2 |
CMV:Paying for sex shouldn't be seen as a flaw in one's Character nor should it be seen as disgusting
I think as long as consent can be gotten from both parties and the sex worker isnt being trafficked , I don't think this should be used as a judgment of one's character or be shamed in any way, I have seen alot of pe... | So... there's a concept of a moral hazard.
There's literally no way for an individual to be *certain* that their prostitute is not being coerced/trafficked. Even if there are some special circumstances where it might be unlikely, certainty is still impossible, and most people frequenting prostitutes are *not* in thos... | Sex work has certain occupational hazards that cannot be regulated away. OSHA (in the US) dictates that a person cannot be subject to bodily fluids without proper PPE in the workplace, and often johns just need to pay more to not wear a condom. Imagine a construction site paying workers more to not wear a hard hat. The... | 10unvlh | CMV:Paying for sex shouldn't be seen as a flaw in one's Character nor should it be seen as disgusting | I think as long as consent can be gotten from both parties and the sex worker isnt being trafficked , I don't think this should be used as a judgment of one's character or be shamed in any way, I have seen alot of people shame people more specifically men who pay for sex , they view it as disgusting and i fail to und... | 1,675,632,028 | Due-Lie-8710 | j7ddtv0 | j7d5q38 | 105 | 76 |
CMV: Trans people wouldn't exist if it weren't for a society with limiting gender norms.
I think the idea of transgenderism is that your inner person has to match your genitals right? But that perception is based on the idea that the genitals have some bearing on a person's heart or mind at all. We are taught that if ... | Except the issue is that trans people can't just relax and do things they like, that doesn't really solve anything for them. It has less to do with society as it does with their strong desire to identify as the other gender.
There is a huge difference between a trans person and a guy that just likes ballet, dolls, fa... | So despite that person thinking more like a female would think, you're gonna say they must call themselves a male? | e1uif8 | CMV: Trans people wouldn't exist if it weren't for a society with limiting gender norms. | I think the idea of transgenderism is that your inner person has to match your genitals right? But that perception is based on the idea that the genitals have some bearing on a person's heart or mind at all. We are taught that if you like certain things, its because you have a vagina, and if you dislike those things, y... | 1,574,752,844 | nuthanger_farm | f8ruz86 | f8ru1fu | 9 | 3 |
CMV: Implementing a wealth tax (taxation based on net worth) would be too problematic to be worth it.
The proposal of a wealth tax is just far too problematic to be worth it.
The first reason would be that it would force the wealthy to sell assets to pay the tax. The biggest contributor of wealth for the extremely we... | I was concerned about this too but knowing Warren it seemed too simple a concern for her and her team to have completely overlooked so I did some digging. It turns out they’ve thought about it.
As for (1) liquidity, there are several ways of addressing it—the most elegant of which uses a loophole the wealthy have bee... | >No I'm not, it's an example. His net worth will drop each year regardless of his investments(unless he has a great year), but it will be mostly gone in a decade or 2.
The wealth tax we're talking about is 8%. Just investing your money in the stock market yields an average ROI of 7% meaning that after the wealth t... | epgk73 | CMV: Implementing a wealth tax (taxation based on net worth) would be too problematic to be worth it. | The proposal of a wealth tax is just far too problematic to be worth it.
The first reason would be that it would force the wealthy to sell assets to pay the tax. The biggest contributor of wealth for the extremely wealthy are stock ownership. Generally, they dont have the liquid money their net worth suggests. Because... | 1,579,163,149 | ArgoMium | fejf0dc | fejeg7q | 20 | 0 |
CMV: Trans people wouldn't exist if it weren't for a society with limiting gender norms.
I think the idea of transgenderism is that your inner person has to match your genitals right? But that perception is based on the idea that the genitals have some bearing on a person's heart or mind at all. We are taught that if ... | If they were perceived in the way they want to be perceived regardless of genitalia would they still be dysphoric? | Some trans genderisim can be viewed as a form of body dismorphisim. In other words, some people look down at their penis and think, this does not belong to my body.
Totally regardless of what society prescribes as the norm, one person, one penis, does not accept it as part of their body. For these people surgery can b... | e1uif8 | CMV: Trans people wouldn't exist if it weren't for a society with limiting gender norms. | I think the idea of transgenderism is that your inner person has to match your genitals right? But that perception is based on the idea that the genitals have some bearing on a person's heart or mind at all. We are taught that if you like certain things, its because you have a vagina, and if you dislike those things, y... | 1,574,752,844 | nuthanger_farm | f8rv5pc | f8ruzfg | 1 | 0 |
CMV: The police are portrayed unfairly in the public eye
1. Now before you get angry, no, I’m not saying the police never do anything wrong. There have been many incidents where the police were in the wrong, I understand.
2. I’m talking about the police in the United States of America. I would be out of my mind if I... | First of all, just as you have started with a caveat that you are not saying police never does anything wrong, I am of course not saying the media never portrays cops unfairly or simplistically. Most MSM these days is mainly driven by what draws eyeballs and clicks, and will portray cops (or minorities, or politicians,... | I think the issue is twofold. The issue is not that I think police are worse overall than any other government employee, its that they seem no better. They hold the power of life and death in their hands, swear oaths, but their numbers of shitty interactions is just the same as any public servant. Nothing in police cul... | e1sqoi | CMV: The police are portrayed unfairly in the public eye | 1. Now before you get angry, no, I’m not saying the police never do anything wrong. There have been many incidents where the police were in the wrong, I understand.
2. I’m talking about the police in the United States of America. I would be out of my mind if I were to say the police in some smaller, “failed state” ty... | 1,574,742,596 | baronvonweezil | f8t4gov | f8rlim2 | 13 | 9 |
CMV: The armpit is the most attractive part of the human body
I am a straight male, so I can only talk about the attractiveness of female pits, but I believe the musky smell of a man's under arm sweat is also attractive to women.
The armpit is full of a wide variety of rich aromas from the light zesty overtones after... | Is it the most attractive part to you specifically? Or in a generalized fashion? Because the universal biological attractors (not social) are healthy skin, gait, and symmetry. | Goddamn I hate my own to death lmao. Thanks for the boost of self-esteem knowing that some people out there find it the most attractive | b2vgep | CMV: The armpit is the most attractive part of the human body | I am a straight male, so I can only talk about the attractiveness of female pits, but I believe the musky smell of a man's under arm sweat is also attractive to women.
The armpit is full of a wide variety of rich aromas from the light zesty overtones after a walk in the sun, to the warm and salted punch of a soaking w... | 1,552,989,154 | cooolest | eiv8dcg | eiv80bc | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Political idealists should not be taken seriously
From Brexit to healthcare in the US. From gun control to gun freedom. From reproductive rights to abortion restrictions. From immigration restrictions to immigrant's rights. Political idealists have shown that they are unprepared to govern. Usually, this takes... | I don't think your logic necessarily follows for all the ideas you mentioned. For example, look at the "abortion whenever it is desired" idea that you mentioned in your OP. How do you imagine this idea might "fail miserably in practice" (your Step 5)? | So basically what you're saying is "People should push for achievable goals and propose methods to achieve said goals instead of just spewing shit out their mouths"? If so we all agree on that.
​ | b3i6vn | CMV: Political idealists should not be taken seriously | From Brexit to healthcare in the US. From gun control to gun freedom. From reproductive rights to abortion restrictions. From immigration restrictions to immigrant's rights. Political idealists have shown that they are unprepared to govern. Usually, this takes the form of:
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1. Big, simple, dramatic idea c... | 1,553,119,592 | ahenobarbus_horse | eizt94k | eizsvj4 | 3 | 2 |
CMV: the only reason Quaker isn't a more popular religion is Quaker Oats
So, there isn't much most people know about quakers, but the main association they have is the picture of the man on the quakers oats box. This person looks like they're from the 1700s. That is not even close to an accurate portrayal except maybe... | The number of Quakers in the US has always been [extremely small.](https://www.quakerranter.org/north-american-quaker-statistics-1937-2017/) There are fewer Quakers in the country than people in most medium-sized suburbs. It’s not that people think the wrong thing about Quakers, it’s that they don’t think about them at... | I've never even considered the connection of Quakers and Quaker Oats, I don't really have any dislike or like towards Quakers due to a lack of exposure, but that lack of exposure has nothing to do with Quaker oats and is due to the fact they aren't as annoying as other religions (good for them!) and personal disinteres... | 17m73kf | CMV: the only reason Quaker isn't a more popular religion is Quaker Oats | So, there isn't much most people know about quakers, but the main association they have is the picture of the man on the quakers oats box. This person looks like they're from the 1700s. That is not even close to an accurate portrayal except maybe of how quakers dressed in the 1700s.
Quakers are not Amish and do not re... | 1,698,941,644 | ScarySuit | k7iytm8 | k7ix1lt | 8 | 5 |
CMV: In the USA we should be able to have a vote of no confidence and remove presidents like other countries do their PMs
I was going to do this as an ELI5 on why it's bad to be able to remove PMs, but as I wrote the text, I thought it might function better as a CMV.
I'm a US Citizen and here we're stuck with preside... | The difference is the position of Prime Minister in relation to the Parliament as compared than that of the President to Congress.
A Prime Minister is normally the head of the party which holds the most seats. He is still a Member of Parliament and therefore part of the Legislature.
The President is selected by popul... | I've chosen not to respond to the semantic arguments, because I feel like they aren't relevant to the point I was making. A democratic republic still must operate on democratic principles, for example.
>First, Congress already has the power to remove the president through impeachment and conviction, which, as we learn... | 6979q4 | CMV: In the USA we should be able to have a vote of no confidence and remove presidents like other countries do their PMs | I was going to do this as an ELI5 on why it's bad to be able to remove PMs, but as I wrote the text, I thought it might function better as a CMV.
I'm a US Citizen and here we're stuck with presidents 4 years at a time. There's impeachment, but it's only happened like 3 times and only one time was someone removed. (Wel... | 1,493,901,906 | thedjotaku | dh4bry5 | dh4b74q | 7 | 2 |
CMV: The finale for Parks and Recreation, and the last third of the series in general are terrible
So basically the series Parks and Recreation started off as a realistic portrayal of government life of a non-essential branch of government at a small town. As the series progressed it became more interested in landing ... | Seems like you're complaining about a tone shift in the show from S1 compared to all other seasons. Your mistake is using S1 as the baseline of what the show should be instead of using all the other seasons. Pilot seasons are experiments of writers, producers and actors trying to figure out what works. The seasons that... | Totally. I agree that P&R got pretty bad in the last couple seasons. I think the general problem was that it pandered to the vanity of it's viewers for having watched the show, not only by not allowing anything bad to happen to its characters, but because the jokes at a certain point became versions of "Oh, it's Ron be... | 866h6z | CMV: The finale for Parks and Recreation, and the last third of the series in general are terrible | So basically the series Parks and Recreation started off as a realistic portrayal of government life of a non-essential branch of government at a small town. As the series progressed it became more interested in landing the joke rather than maintaining that same feel of realism that was seen in the first season.
a) L... | 1,521,671,132 | ijrjtpk | dw2qxm7 | dw2qqgw | 18 | 2 |
CMV: The US government should produce and print textbooks and provide them for free to the public/schools/students.
This is a policy idea I've been kicking around in my head a bit. Essentially, the government would finance (maybe through a prize based system) the writing of public domain textbooks for most subjects/g... | It would get way too political.
The central government selecting the *exact content* of what the entire country’s next generation will learn? Every politician, especially every president, will want a hand in deciding which textbook to go with and what the content, phrasing, etc. should be. It will become less about le... | I like the idea of government paying for books, but not writing them.
The government will act in it's own self interest, always. If there a way to benefit themselves from writing these books, they will do so. Textbooks are typically written by academics who often work for universities. There is not a huge amount of th... | 86l9l9 | CMV: The US government should produce and print textbooks and provide them for free to the public/schools/students. | This is a policy idea I've been kicking around in my head a bit. Essentially, the government would finance (maybe through a prize based system) the writing of public domain textbooks for most subjects/grade levels in the US, and provide copies of them free of charge to any American who asked, and to schools who asked.... | 1,521,817,065 | huadpe | dw5wedr | dw5vro7 | 628 | 64 |
CMV: Joe Biden's campaign is shady
First off, I don't hate Joe Biden. I became voting age in 2007 and the only two votes I've ever cast were for Obama. Now I (sort of) like Trump, but would rather see things return to more 'normal' with someone smart and boring.
But Joe Biden isn't that guy. I'm looking for sharp, l... | To modify your view here:
> If you wanted to completely deflate any enthusiasm for your party in the current atmosphere, you'd pick Biden and Harris.
Biden isn't perfect by a long shot, but people definitely turned out in *big* numbers to support him in the primary.
And Biden & Harris appear to be tracking well in... | >So why would he risk wasting the whole democratic nomination if he isn't really fit to lead?
My question to you is do clips of him losing his train of thought make him unfit to lead? He's in front of camera all the time and he's getting older. Memory lapses are a normal part of aging, they're only a problem if you do... | iqk73b | CMV: Joe Biden's campaign is shady | First off, I don't hate Joe Biden. I became voting age in 2007 and the only two votes I've ever cast were for Obama. Now I (sort of) like Trump, but would rather see things return to more 'normal' with someone smart and boring.
But Joe Biden isn't that guy. I'm looking for sharp, logical, intellectual, those sorts of... | 1,599,800,237 | writeidiaz | g4spoyj | g4sp4vh | 8 | 7 |
CMV: 1.e4 is NOT the opening that chess beginners should be taught
My reasons why I think this are the following:
1) There are lots and lots of ways that opponents will try to counter, and to play well with e4 you need to know how to play a lot of different openings such as the Caro-Kann, French defence, Sicilian def... | I hadn’t really thought much about that, and I am relatively inexperienced so I’m not sure what to reply- so if you could, why does e4 lead to more sharp positions than say, g3 does? And in an actual game, does this give white any extra advantages? While I understand that this might help learn, does it help win games? | > If you play someone with e4 unprepared to face all of these, you may get a nasty surprise.
Sure but if they did know all of those different defenses that you've listed then they wouldn't be beginners. Opening with 1.e4 gives the beginner a lot of different opportunities they can play and begin to understand tactics... | 86lnf2 | CMV: 1.e4 is NOT the opening that chess beginners should be taught | My reasons why I think this are the following:
1) There are lots and lots of ways that opponents will try to counter, and to play well with e4 you need to know how to play a lot of different openings such as the Caro-Kann, French defence, Sicilian defence (which has lots and lots of different variations to it like the... | 1,521,820,102 | Ha_Ree | dw62q4m | dw6167i | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Puberty blockers should be given as standard course to all on the eve of puberty
From what I hear puberty blockers have a completely reversible effect and stopping to take them will start a delayed puberty with the same end result; there is no known medical way right now to reverse puberty. Therefore simple logic... | This seems like a strange idea. For almost all children, there is no point to delaying puberty. There is not even a "right" age to start puberty. What would be the point of doing this?
Importantly, I think you misunderstand why puberty blockers are being used in adolescents with gender dysphoria. The diagnostic standa... | So beforehand I'd like to say that I don't know much about puberty blockers but I do have Google so I looked it up.
It's been said before by other commenters that this may have adverse medical effects. This is also expensive said another. Though it all though you mentioned that:
"They should be able to decide to go ... | e1ww1p | CMV: Puberty blockers should be given as standard course to all on the eve of puberty | From what I hear puberty blockers have a completely reversible effect and stopping to take them will start a delayed puberty with the same end result; there is no known medical way right now to reverse puberty. Therefore simple logic dictate that as a matter of standard procedure the more flexible path that can go into... | 1,574,768,902 | Erens_rock_hard_abs | f8sf3nq | f8s9dzt | 5 | 1 |
CMV: The latest self driving car accident is Ubers fault, since it would not have happend to a human driver.
You have propably all heard of the tragic accident with one of Ubers self driving car. You most likely also have seen the video (https://twitter.com/TempePolice/status/976585098542833664) released by the Tempe ... | I'll challenge the second part of your claim. When you say that a human driver would not have made this mistake, you're making a blanket statement. Plenty of pedestrians and bicyclists have been killed by human drivers, even when the victims wore reflectors and were following the rules of the road. I even got bumped th... | Sorry, u/Susu6 – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 1:
> **Direct responses to a CMV post must challenge at least one aspect of OP’s stated view (however minor), or ask a clarifying question**. Arguments in favor of the view OP is willing to change must be restricted to replies to other comments. [See the... | 86lbqj | CMV: The latest self driving car accident is Ubers fault, since it would not have happend to a human driver. | You have propably all heard of the tragic accident with one of Ubers self driving car. You most likely also have seen the video (https://twitter.com/TempePolice/status/976585098542833664) released by the Tempe Police.
You most likely also know, that the police said that it would have been difficult, even for a human d... | 1,521,817,520 | surinlol | dw5xxnn | dw5xebv | 22 | 1 |
CMV: Drunk sex does not automatically equal rape.
I wish I had a single sentence or rule that would outline my position on this, but I don't, i can only list scenarios and give my reasoning for each one.
The position I disagree with is the idea that because alcohol impairs a person's judgement, their affermative and... | I think this is exactly a strawman argument. People have drunk sex all the time without anyone considering it rape. No one is arguing that the very act of having sex with a drunk person is rape.
What it seems like you're actually arguing against is the belief that women shouldn't be allowed to claim rape due to in... | Can you give an example of someone worth listening to claiming that any and all drunk sex is rape? | e1qwd5 | CMV: Drunk sex does not automatically equal rape. | I wish I had a single sentence or rule that would outline my position on this, but I don't, i can only list scenarios and give my reasoning for each one.
The position I disagree with is the idea that because alcohol impairs a person's judgement, their affermative and ongoing consent is not valid.
So to clarify, if ... | 1,574,733,615 | LeeHarveySnoswald | f8r9m1c | f8r8rgp | 12 | 3 |
CMV: You should be bringing your own bags to the grocery store
First of all disclaimer, I know that in these times your state/country might not allow this right now but this won't be forever so I'm looking forward. Basically plastic pollution is awful for obvious reasons and much of it is preventable. Some common argu... | Well, I see no reason to use *any bags* if I can keep everything in my hands. So for a handful few items, no, you should not bring your own bags. | Don't you have paperbags yet? | iqfj6k | CMV: You should be bringing your own bags to the grocery store | First of all disclaimer, I know that in these times your state/country might not allow this right now but this won't be forever so I'm looking forward. Basically plastic pollution is awful for obvious reasons and much of it is preventable. Some common arguments I've heard:
1) They're dirty. So wash them, you don't nee... | 1,599,782,590 | SailorSpoon11 | g4rvjfv | g4rtame | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Time is an illusion of the human mind.
Weird post I guess.
So I recently learned that photons (aka light) essentially exist outside of our concept of time. This is due to the widely accepted theory of special relativity, stating that the closer to the speed of light you travel, the slower time moves for you, re... | Yes photons do not experience the passage of time, yet the photon did not travel instantaneously from all reference frames, only it’s own. Whether or not it was “pre-determined” is another question.
Time is space, space is time. You’re correct that we’re missing something very fundamental: a theory of everything, spe... | Time isn’t a mere figment of your imagination. It is as testable, provable and measurable as length or width.
Also, time doesn’t vary based on *perception* but it does vary based on the speed an observer is traveling. If I put a clock in a rocket and launch it at 1/2 the speed of light and bring it back home, the cloc... | 17m0t2k | CMV: Time is an illusion of the human mind. | Weird post I guess.
So I recently learned that photons (aka light) essentially exist outside of our concept of time. This is due to the widely accepted theory of special relativity, stating that the closer to the speed of light you travel, the slower time moves for you, relative to everything else. So from the perspe... | 1,698,922,420 | Money_Whisperer | k7htteo | k7hri35 | 54 | 17 |
CMV: Joe Biden's campaign is shady
First off, I don't hate Joe Biden. I became voting age in 2007 and the only two votes I've ever cast were for Obama. Now I (sort of) like Trump, but would rather see things return to more 'normal' with someone smart and boring.
But Joe Biden isn't that guy. I'm looking for sharp, l... | > He appears to be on a hard mental decline. I've seen the clips of him losing his train of thought completely - that's no speech impediment. So why would he risk wasting the whole democratic nomination if he isn't really fit to lead? Either he thinks he is and what I've seen has been blown out of proportion (the clips... | To modify your view here:
> If you wanted to completely deflate any enthusiasm for your party in the current atmosphere, you'd pick Biden and Harris.
Biden isn't perfect by a long shot, but people definitely turned out in *big* numbers to support him in the primary.
And Biden & Harris appear to be tracking well in... | iqk73b | CMV: Joe Biden's campaign is shady | First off, I don't hate Joe Biden. I became voting age in 2007 and the only two votes I've ever cast were for Obama. Now I (sort of) like Trump, but would rather see things return to more 'normal' with someone smart and boring.
But Joe Biden isn't that guy. I'm looking for sharp, logical, intellectual, those sorts of... | 1,599,800,237 | writeidiaz | g4sps4e | g4spoyj | 17 | 8 |
CMV:There is no morality
I do not believe that there is morality due to a lack of evidence. I will define morality as being an imperative towards acting in the interests of people that are not oneself or a person that one cares about due to a personal relationship. I personally would like to live in a society where pe... | Clearly it is the case that, in society, people talk about morality as if it exists. They make statements like "murder is morally wrong" and "it is immoral to torture people". Since you do not believe in morality, it must follow that you object in some way to these statements.
Do you think these statements are *fals... | do you think that kind people do kind things because they feel obligated to, or do you think that kind people do kind things because they simply want to do it?
generally speaking, unless you're all fucked up in the head, other peoples happiness makes us happy because we are hardwired to have an empathetic response to ... | 5s5tn4 | CMV:There is no morality | I do not believe that there is morality due to a lack of evidence. I will define morality as being an imperative towards acting in the interests of people that are not oneself or a person that one cares about due to a personal relationship. I personally would like to live in a society where people are prevented from ha... | 1,486,272,204 | suwaii | ddcm2sl | ddclyzw | 5 | 1 |
CMV: While harsh, I don't believe my Japanese friend should be claiming Japanese culture as her own.
We are both East Asian, but I am not Japanese.
My friend is ethnically half white, half Japanese. She is a 4th generation Japanese American, meaning her great grandparents were the ones who immigrated from Japan. She... | To modify your view on this, this part:
> We're from a predominantly White town so there is no real Asian community here.
might be a key factor.
That is, if you're in a community where people see you and treat you as "other" based on a minority identity you hold, it can prompt you to identify more with the identity... | just curious, are you american or from another country that has a really varied culture? if you are, you know that this is absolutely not how culture works. you're right about the definition of nationality, but that doesn't necessarily define someone's culture. if you were born in the states, but your parents are from ... | iqhvoj | CMV: While harsh, I don't believe my Japanese friend should be claiming Japanese culture as her own. | We are both East Asian, but I am not Japanese.
My friend is ethnically half white, half Japanese. She is a 4th generation Japanese American, meaning her great grandparents were the ones who immigrated from Japan. She takes great pride in the fact that she is ethnically half Japanese, often lauding about how she's des... | 1,599,791,082 | [deleted] | g4si7x4 | g4scji8 | 34 | 1 |
CMV: Among the reasons free speech is important is that it may be the principle manner by which we avoid error.
In the absence of free speech (i.e., no speech or, more likely, restricted speech), we necessarily calcify around specific ideas/ideals. Many of those may, in time, be seen as nightmarish attitudes.
Had we ... | You don’t really explain what you mean by free speech in your post, and elsewhere you say that you can’t provide a definition. Why not? Are you woried about people disagreeing whit it or trying to discuss and change it? That’s literally the point of this subreddit, to disagree with you and change your view.
Your view... | You talk like you haven't seen the extreme left talk nowa days. They're all over media, changing schools and campuses as we speak. You say "this will never happen", while it's slowly happening. | b3blzz | CMV: Among the reasons free speech is important is that it may be the principle manner by which we avoid error. | In the absence of free speech (i.e., no speech or, more likely, restricted speech), we necessarily calcify around specific ideas/ideals. Many of those may, in time, be seen as nightmarish attitudes.
Had we calcified around “prescriptive” ideals of the past (e.g., slavery, child labor, spousal rape, etc.), we’d live in... | 1,553,086,176 | sweetkelshawn | eiyh5g4 | eiygu55 | 1 | 0 |
CMV: capitalism is the only viable economic model currently, something communis-esque is the most viable economic system in the very long term, and socialism is the one in the middle that doesn't commit hard enough to be viable at all.
So, I believe capitalism is the only viable economic model currently. I believe tha... | Your critique of communism with regards to advancement is misplaced. Under capitalism, the incentive for advancement is the profit motive. That means that the things that tend to advance are the things that are profitable, that is, popular, cheap to produce, perishable, and accessible. While this model does a lot to ad... | Right now, I think some variant of Market Socialism would be better for the average person than Capitalism. Market socialism being any of the systems where the means of production is primarily worker or public owned, but markets are still the main mode of resource distribution.
An example would be "Coop Capitalism": ... | 17m6xi0 | CMV: capitalism is the only viable economic model currently, something communis-esque is the most viable economic system in the very long term, and socialism is the one in the middle that doesn't commit hard enough to be viable at all. | So, I believe capitalism is the only viable economic model currently. I believe that a centrally controlled means of production is unviable in a world where that production is performed by humans, and the disparity in complexity/responsibilities between jobs makes equal compensation nonsense.
However, I also believe ... | 1,698,941,205 | LEMO2000 | k7iyodz | k7ivpbk | 10 | 1 |
CMV: Palestine is the victim. A modern day genocide is being committed against them.
Ok. Based on all that I've read, which may of course be biased based on my own ideological leaning, Palestine seems to be the victim here. Arguably, they may not be saints, but it seems like Israel is generally the aggressor.
Howeve... | Correct me if I'm wrong. But as per my knowledge the current population of Jews that comprise of Israel are very recent settlers to the land? | The war is a psyop. Both Israel and Hamas are funded by the same guy. Remember, war is a racket. War is a sport of the gods.
https://youtu.be/Y8wNkLUMH1I?si=pg4urnO2wKBCO-hI | 17lymm4 | CMV: Palestine is the victim. A modern day genocide is being committed against them. | Ok. Based on all that I've read, which may of course be biased based on my own ideological leaning, Palestine seems to be the victim here. Arguably, they may not be saints, but it seems like Israel is generally the aggressor.
However! There is huge public opinion in the opposite direction too. So I come here with an ... | 1,698,912,619 | Educational-Fruit-16 | k7hkcr5 | k7hcpk6 | -4 | -14 |
CMV: We should be able to fire and even arrest politicians midterm, if they are caught telling blatant lies or acting against public interests. Losing votes in the next elections is not enough. Election promises should be binding.
Politics and politicians are really important. They decide what happens to our country a... | It's extremely difficult to determine when a politician is actually breaking an election promise.
What if a politician promises to support one thing, but finds out he can't possibly win on that issue because he doesn't have enough support from other politicians, and winds up voting for an omnibus bill that includes f... | So Trump was elected with promises such ad locking Hillary Clinton away for her emails, building a wall along the US-Mexico border (with Mexico paying for it), and to ban Muslim immigrants "until [this situation] is figured out"
Should he be put in jail because these aren't happening? No.
These aren't happening becau... | 6966j3 | CMV: We should be able to fire and even arrest politicians midterm, if they are caught telling blatant lies or acting against public interests. Losing votes in the next elections is not enough. Election promises should be binding. | Politics and politicians are really important. They decide what happens to our country and to the people in it. They change the laws that affect us all.
So, it is mind-boggling how easily they can get away with it, if they misuse their position to benefit select few of their friends, or lie to get the position and th... | 1,493,884,411 | This_The_Last_Time | dh488di | dh4356h | 97 | 39 |
CMV: Criticism of Captain Marvel is not motivated by anti-feminist trolls
I've read a lot of media articles claiming that the negative reactions against Captain Marvel were motivated by "trolls" being misogynists who can't handle a strong female lead. See, e.g., [https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/3/8/18254584/captain-m... | As with everything, it's a mix. There are definitely a large amount of anti feminists hating the movie without seeing it, probably as a reaction to some things Brie Larson has said. There are also a lot of people overrating it in response. I had to wade through a lot of clearly bullshit reviews of the film to find some... | > Again, not the default. Plenty of women leads in other movies, even action movies.
Again, yes, the default. The concept of a female lead in an action movie, much less a big-budget action movie is still so rare as to be remarkable. You've named, what, six? And once again, let me point out that out of 21 Marvel movies... | b3e9i6 | CMV: Criticism of Captain Marvel is not motivated by anti-feminist trolls | I've read a lot of media articles claiming that the negative reactions against Captain Marvel were motivated by "trolls" being misogynists who can't handle a strong female lead. See, e.g., [https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/3/8/18254584/captain-marvel-boycott-controversy](https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/3/8/18254584/ca... | 1,553,100,180 | peekabookpenguin | eiz6u3a | eiz6r7k | 9 | 2 |
CMV: The Transformers aren't robots
Definitions of what a robot is vary, but they all involve robots being artificial in some way (meaning something else intentionally makes them for a purpose). You can insert questions of autonomy, intelligence, etc. which are all irrelevant to the discussion at hand. A robot is some... | By your definition *Transformers are robots.* They were designed as a subservient slave race to the Quintessons of (you guessed it) planet Quintessa. The early Cybertronian wars were focused on the liberation of the Cybertronians from their creators. The *Autobot Insignia* is a slave brand that the Autobots turned into... | Thats what the second part of the sentence was for. Distinction between artificial lifeform and artificial life. The first we have done (we have made forms that werent there before) but we havent made life itself (from non-living things) yet, afaik. But we might at some point.
>why bother using it
One reason might be... | b3eiws | CMV: The Transformers aren't robots | Definitions of what a robot is vary, but they all involve robots being artificial in some way (meaning something else intentionally makes them for a purpose). You can insert questions of autonomy, intelligence, etc. which are all irrelevant to the discussion at hand. A robot is something that is made.
The Transformer... | 1,553,101,481 | Tuvinator | eizj8b5 | eiz2cq3 | 2 | 1 |
CMV: In the USA we should be able to have a vote of no confidence and remove presidents like other countries do their PMs
I was going to do this as an ELI5 on why it's bad to be able to remove PMs, but as I wrote the text, I thought it might function better as a CMV.
I'm a US Citizen and here we're stuck with preside... | Votes of no confidence only make sense in parliamentary systems, because Prime Ministers are chosen by parliamentary majority.
However, our Presidents are chosen by direct election of the population.
Allowing parliamentary "votes of no confidence" in the US would entail giving Congress the ability to overrule the Ame... | In most parlamentary countries the people themselves can not impeach or actually force the impeachment vote. It is still up to the representatives of the people. For example when recently there was a vote of no confidence in Estonia against our PM, it was done by other parties who gathered the majority of the parlament... | 6979q4 | CMV: In the USA we should be able to have a vote of no confidence and remove presidents like other countries do their PMs | I was going to do this as an ELI5 on why it's bad to be able to remove PMs, but as I wrote the text, I thought it might function better as a CMV.
I'm a US Citizen and here we're stuck with presidents 4 years at a time. There's impeachment, but it's only happened like 3 times and only one time was someone removed. (Wel... | 1,493,901,906 | thedjotaku | dh49zgx | dh49ywk | 7 | 4 |
CMV: Eating mostly organic food is immoral
Eating mostly organic food is immoral by Kanth's categorical imperative.
If everyone ate organic, the need for farmland would be significantly higher.^[1](https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensavage/2015/10/09/the-organic-farming-yield-gap/#7ae8cef75e0e) ^[2](https://www.scribd... | I don't agree with the whole premise. The whole "if everybody did it, the world would be worse off" doesn't make something immoral. If everyone a plumber, then we'd run out of food and nobody could fix our cars. That doesn't mean it's immoral to be a plumber. | Alright so based on this answer, would you agree that currently the most immoral of those factors is e) or a) and that organic, if used by everyone, would be more sustainable for the planet (due to not contributing to more unsustainable practices as compared to non-organic)? | 86k89n | CMV: Eating mostly organic food is immoral | Eating mostly organic food is immoral by Kanth's categorical imperative.
If everyone ate organic, the need for farmland would be significantly higher.^[1](https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensavage/2015/10/09/the-organic-farming-yield-gap/#7ae8cef75e0e) ^[2](https://www.scribd.com/doc/283996769/The-Yield-Gap-For-Organic... | 1,521,808,067 | SirCutRy | dw5rhqi | dw5q7ls | 8 | 5 |
CMV: Criticism of Captain Marvel is not motivated by anti-feminist trolls
I've read a lot of media articles claiming that the negative reactions against Captain Marvel were motivated by "trolls" being misogynists who can't handle a strong female lead. See, e.g., [https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/3/8/18254584/captain-m... | The media will embellish anything within the realm of social politics to garner attention or add fuel to the fire so to speak. But there are definitely people who are anti-feminism criticizing the movie. That really can’t be argued.
I don’t really have any interest to see the movie, as it just doesn’t look too intere... | > Again, not the default. Plenty of women leads in other movies, even action movies.
Again, yes, the default. The concept of a female lead in an action movie, much less a big-budget action movie is still so rare as to be remarkable. You've named, what, six? And once again, let me point out that out of 21 Marvel movies... | b3e9i6 | CMV: Criticism of Captain Marvel is not motivated by anti-feminist trolls | I've read a lot of media articles claiming that the negative reactions against Captain Marvel were motivated by "trolls" being misogynists who can't handle a strong female lead. See, e.g., [https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/3/8/18254584/captain-marvel-boycott-controversy](https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/3/8/18254584/ca... | 1,553,100,180 | peekabookpenguin | eiz7kjm | eiz6r7k | 7 | 2 |
CMV: Israel is just as morally bankrupt as Hamas.
I don’t have much sympathy for Palestine besides basic human decency. Sure civilians are dying, but so what? Civilians die by militants all the time. You don’t see many people weeping for refugees in Niger or Sudan.
So who care about the Palestinian people in reality... | >There is no attempt at proportionality in these indiscriminate bombing campaigns of Gaza.
Proportionality doesn't mean that one side can't be stronger than the other, or that casualty rates should match up, only that the force they use is both necessary and proportionate. If there are military targets in/under civili... | > …when they target women and children
You really think Israel is targeting civilians? Israel is bent on genocide, however, it has taken them 50+ years to complete their “final solution”? | 17m1pqd | CMV: Israel is just as morally bankrupt as Hamas. | I don’t have much sympathy for Palestine besides basic human decency. Sure civilians are dying, but so what? Civilians die by militants all the time. You don’t see many people weeping for refugees in Niger or Sudan.
So who care about the Palestinian people in reality. I don’t, any more than I care about the Ukrainian... | 1,698,925,852 | Ok-Story-9319 | k7hubzd | k7huam0 | 6 | 3 |
CMV: Among the reasons free speech is important is that it may be the principle manner by which we avoid error.
In the absence of free speech (i.e., no speech or, more likely, restricted speech), we necessarily calcify around specific ideas/ideals. Many of those may, in time, be seen as nightmarish attitudes.
Had we ... | How are you going to handle disinformationment?
That is, the production and distributions of lies and half truth until the truth is obfuscated.
Speech and attention is not equally distributed, it clusters. I can't read all the books in the world. I can't read all the newspaper article in a day. Some sources gathered ... | >Is there not more to be gained, in aggregate, by protecting freedom of speech?
Same question then: *Is the jury still out on ethnic cleansing?*
It's a pretty simple question, all in all. Say we ban the promotion of genocide - not saying whether or not we should - are we "opening ourselves to error" here? Is genoci... | b3blzz | CMV: Among the reasons free speech is important is that it may be the principle manner by which we avoid error. | In the absence of free speech (i.e., no speech or, more likely, restricted speech), we necessarily calcify around specific ideas/ideals. Many of those may, in time, be seen as nightmarish attitudes.
Had we calcified around “prescriptive” ideals of the past (e.g., slavery, child labor, spousal rape, etc.), we’d live in... | 1,553,086,176 | sweetkelshawn | eiyhr8w | eiyhf79 | 3 | 1 |
CMV: Outlaw Is the best game for the Atari VCS/2600 and can be released for 10$ on Steam and people will be none the wiser.
First of all, the game is unique. There was never a game just like that since. (or before but that is pretty easy to say because there weren't many games released before). For those who never pla... | Nothing like it? Nothing exactly like it maybe, but it plays quite a lot like a smaller space form of Combat!, which was the pack in game for the VCS. Combat! also has more variety in its modes and levels, like invisibility, bouncing or non bouncing, airplanes instead of tanks, steerable bullets and more. I think Co... | The appeal to Missile Command if it came out now is nostalgia. Give it an outright War Games narrative, set it in the 80s with all the bells and whistles, and make a story mode you can win, boom. | 6jfp6g | CMV: Outlaw Is the best game for the Atari VCS/2600 and can be released for 10$ on Steam and people will be none the wiser. | First of all, the game is unique. There was never a game just like that since. (or before but that is pretty easy to say because there weren't many games released before). For those who never played, the game is a 2d gun dueling game where 2 players have to shoot each other 10 times, there is an object blocking the cen... | 1,498,413,420 | oshaboy | djeztfo | djdx4g0 | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Station Wagons are superior to Crossovers
First to clarify, by "Crossover" I mean a 5 door vehicle with an elevated platform that is not a true SUV in the sense that is designed for towing, serious off roading, built on a truck frame, etc. While I understand why there that 7/8 passenger crossovers are a unique ni... | As someone who has injured his knee recently, and who has many family members with leg/joint issues; crossovers are more comfortable to get in and out of and drive than a station wagon due to their increased height.
I was unable to drive my Altima in the week following my injury and transporting my brother and grandmo... | Why stop at wagons? I'm confident that most, if not all, of the advantages you provided that a wagon has over a crossover, a hatchback would have those same advantages over a wagon. | b3cdeg | CMV: Station Wagons are superior to Crossovers | First to clarify, by "Crossover" I mean a 5 door vehicle with an elevated platform that is not a true SUV in the sense that is designed for towing, serious off roading, built on a truck frame, etc. While I understand why there that 7/8 passenger crossovers are a unique niche, the 5 passenger versions, such as the CRV, ... | 1,553,090,444 | nycengineer111 | eiyrojj | eiynufa | 3 | 1 |
CMV: Bernie Sanders is too old to be president.
I thought about including Biden in the title, I know he isn't technically running yet, but he has been flirting with the idea so I'm including him in this, however this is mostly about Sanders, so when I say "he" it's usually about him. I am more familiar with Sanders ca... | > Sure, Sanders seems fine right now. But in old age that can change literally overnight.
It may be more likely to take a turn for the worse as one ages, but this is true of *anyone*.
> because of the energy and mental power needed to successfully execute that job that dwindles in old age.
But it dwindles at diff... | > My main concern comes down to this: energy. Being president of the United States is widely known as one of the most stressful/demanding jobs that exists.
Trump has proven this wrong. You can be President by traveling, golfing, tweeting and doing basically nothing else. Might not be a *good and effective* President... | b3dlph | CMV: Bernie Sanders is too old to be president. | I thought about including Biden in the title, I know he isn't technically running yet, but he has been flirting with the idea so I'm including him in this, however this is mostly about Sanders, so when I say "he" it's usually about him. I am more familiar with Sanders campaign/ideology than Biden's, so that's the main ... | 1,553,096,899 | Mose-Art | eiyrzx1 | eiyr205 | 48 | 4 |
CMV: Eating mostly organic food is immoral
Eating mostly organic food is immoral by Kanth's categorical imperative.
If everyone ate organic, the need for farmland would be significantly higher.^[1](https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensavage/2015/10/09/the-organic-farming-yield-gap/#7ae8cef75e0e) ^[2](https://www.scribd... | > If everyone ate organic, the need for farmland would be significantly higher.
But would it be unsustainable or impracticable? [A lot of farmland is being used for animal feed and non-food uses - 45% together.](http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/3/034015/pdf) Presumably, we wouldn't be making those... | But I can definitely prefer that everyone move to organic food despite your concerns. First, the question of how much land should be devoted to farming does not have an obvious answer. "As little as possible" is one argument from efficiency, but I might well want to see more land farmed using less pesticides for a va... | 86k89n | CMV: Eating mostly organic food is immoral | Eating mostly organic food is immoral by Kanth's categorical imperative.
If everyone ate organic, the need for farmland would be significantly higher.^[1](https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensavage/2015/10/09/the-organic-farming-yield-gap/#7ae8cef75e0e) ^[2](https://www.scribd.com/doc/283996769/The-Yield-Gap-For-Organic... | 1,521,808,067 | SirCutRy | dw5nvgt | dw5nout | 22 | 9 |
CMV: Ice cream is better in a cone than a cup.
In the common situation where, to have a cone is the same price as to have a cup, a cone is the superior option.
First of all, as we all know, the cone is edible, where the cup is not. In some cases, there is even a chocolate filling at the bottom of the cone.
Furtherm... | Cups make getting ice-cream with friends so much better.
1. You're not constrained to walking around the immediate area, which might be a boring place. You can put your ice-cream in a car cup-holder or bike basket and move somewhere more interesting.
2. Say you want to sample your friend's ice cream. If you both hav... | >The ice cream melts, and can go over the sides on to your hands
>Another strength of the cup is that you can switch between flavours.
I'll add on to these-
The cone can get soggy when the ice cream melts, the cup will not.
A cup can be placed on virtually any flat surface without concern. If you need to free your... | 5s5xjm | CMV: Ice cream is better in a cone than a cup. | In the common situation where, to have a cone is the same price as to have a cup, a cone is the superior option.
First of all, as we all know, the cone is edible, where the cup is not. In some cases, there is even a chocolate filling at the bottom of the cone.
Furthermore, the cone is mobile. I can walk with an ice ... | 1,486,273,983 | trustyburrito | ddco3kh | ddcnjbb | 23 | 3 |
CMV: The media and leftist portion of the world is giving the New Zealand terrorist EXACTLY what he wanted.
The shooter directly stated that his goal was to push social divisiveness. He also obviously pushed this himself by calling out pewdiepie, Candice Owens and President Trump, people he admits he disagrees with, f... | "The media and leftists have embraced his call to outrage by the media twisting it in their mind that Trump(or any of them) is somehow to blame, and some people even blamed Chelsea Clinton."
If you shoot a bunch of people, the media is going to cover it. That's how they make money. The fact that he wrote a letter abou... | His views are not far left, he is a white nationalist. The right wing media including Fox News and pundits like Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris, etc. have pushed this anti-immigration and anti-muslim bigotry that the shooter believed in. What he said in his manifesto is repeated by right wingers everyday.
Che... | b3moe0 | CMV: The media and leftist portion of the world is giving the New Zealand terrorist EXACTLY what he wanted. | The shooter directly stated that his goal was to push social divisiveness. He also obviously pushed this himself by calling out pewdiepie, Candice Owens and President Trump, people he admits he disagrees with, for no other reason than to cause outrage. The media and leftists have embraced his call to outrage by the med... | 1,553,145,571 | luckyhunterdude | ej0ow5e | ej0odzo | 13 | 0 |
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