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CMV: Public sector unions should be abolished.
Despite the support that unions enjoy on Reddit, they are just as corrupt as the corporations they negotiate against. Power corrupts whether that power is in the hands of a CEO commanding a million dollar company or in a union president commanding millions in union dues. ... | Because a guy was corrupt 70 years ago I shouldn't have a union that protects my safety in the workplace? How does that make sense? Jimmy Hoffa died before I was even born bro.
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Jimmy Hoffa is just a famous example to illustrate the point that unions are as self interested as corporations.
OSHA protects your saf... | Do you hav an example of a public union being corrupted?
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Any police union that allows police brutality to thrive.
Teachers shutting down schools during Covid forcing parents into impossible situations.
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That isn't corruption. Those are unions advocating for policies for their workers you disagree with. | v6yji7 | CMV: Public sector unions should be abolished. | Despite the support that unions enjoy on Reddit, they are just as corrupt as the corporations they negotiate against. Power corrupts whether that power is in the hands of a CEO commanding a million dollar company or in a union president commanding millions in union dues. Unions are often a necessary evil, not necessari... | Full-Initiative3926 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:Contemporary mainstream Films lack a central creative vision because too many people are involved in making them
If anyone has heard of the parable of the blind men and an elephant it is a story of a group of blind men who have never come across an elephant before and who learn and imagine what the elephant is li... | So what's the closest to a mainstream movie that you think has a creative vision?
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Ummm..... Coming up blank. Lol. Feel free to make any suggestions.
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Avatar 2?
What other film looks or feels like that.
Any Michael Bay film? His work is very distinct | Are you sure this has to do with the number of people and not the type of people?
For example having a team of 5 writers who loves Lord of the Rings determined to make a good show and democratically taking decisions about it would probably create something better than having a team of two consisting of a showrunner a... | 11lt8ns | CMV:Contemporary mainstream Films lack a central creative vision because too many people are involved in making them | If anyone has heard of the parable of the blind men and an elephant it is a story of a group of blind men who have never come across an elephant before and who learn and imagine what the elephant is like by touching it. Each blind man feels a different part of the elephant's body, but only one part, such as the side o... | YoloFomoTimeMachine | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The UK's health care system is corrupt and the way they give money to working citizens is also corrupt.
The UK may have great health care but they control every aspect of normal life. It strips every person of their right to choose what they will do with their bodies.
The only thing that appeals to me when it co... | How is everyone earnings the same and what does this have to do with healthcare system?
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In the uk, an engineer can make 21k lbs a year while a dogwalker can make similar or more.
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The average salary for a dog walker is 19K, for engineers it's 48K. | What the fuck are you talking about?
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Universal health care is bad as it doesn't cover everything. If you have a terminal illness they won't tell you that they'll only help you if you're really well.
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My mother was terminal, they treated her until she died. | o2jz3t | CMV: The UK's health care system is corrupt and the way they give money to working citizens is also corrupt. | The UK may have great health care but they control every aspect of normal life. It strips every person of their right to choose what they will do with their bodies.
The only thing that appeals to me when it comes to the UK's healthcare system is that I can get healthcare whenever I want without breaking a sweat about ... | Asleep-Wrongdoer-952 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The UK's health care system is corrupt and the way they give money to working citizens is also corrupt.
The UK may have great health care but they control every aspect of normal life. It strips every person of their right to choose what they will do with their bodies.
The only thing that appeals to me when it co... | Do you think that a dog walker and an engineer get paid the same amount of money in the UK?
You do know that is an incorrect statement right?
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How?
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The NHS has a banded system. Different positions and different experience levels are in different bands and get paid different amounts. | The NHS has been running for over 70 years, when does the imploding start?
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I see what your saying. Why ruin a good thing?
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^[Delta System Explained](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/deltasystem) ... | o2jz3t | CMV: The UK's health care system is corrupt and the way they give money to working citizens is also corrupt. | The UK may have great health care but they control every aspect of normal life. It strips every person of their right to choose what they will do with their bodies.
The only thing that appeals to me when it comes to the UK's healthcare system is that I can get healthcare whenever I want without breaking a sweat about ... | Asleep-Wrongdoer-952 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Cheering for individual graduates while diplomas and given out should be frowned upon.
During graduation ceremonies, while graduation candidates are having their names called and are walking across the stage to receive their diploma’s, some will cheer/shout/holler for their friend/family member when their name is... | i mean at my graduation many years ago folks were explicitly told not to applaud for individuals...so like it already is frowned upon?
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I guess it has changed. I was at a large university graduation this morning for a family friend, and I had never seen this behavior before. It was not requested to save applause f... | This entire post sounds like someone upset that parents were cheering for their kids at graduation, but no one cheered for them.
And honestly, if you act like this in real life.. I kinda get it
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I guess I’m just old school.
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Eh, I agree it's annoying...
But that's about it, I certainly wouldn't go around s... | rjl17a | CMV: Cheering for individual graduates while diplomas and given out should be frowned upon. | During graduation ceremonies, while graduation candidates are having their names called and are walking across the stage to receive their diploma’s, some will cheer/shout/holler for their friend/family member when their name is called. I think this should be generally frowned upon for a couple reasons.
1) in my exper... | DJ_Pope_Trump | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Not supporting universal healthcare is one of the most evil positions you can take.
It literally means that you think people should just drop dead if they can’t afford to treat their illnesses. It means that you hate poor people and you think they deserve to die because they’re poor. It means that you think that ... | You don't have to support universal healthcare to support providing healthcare for those who can't afford it.
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Can you elaborate on that? How is that possible?
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Charities, ER admission laws, means-based healthcare.
Charities can (and do) cover the costs of care for applicants that cannot afford the care th... | Because some people live in countries where universal healthcare is shitty. Like, real shitty. You have to pay anyway to get anything done that is more complicated than common cold, because private healthcare is so much better.
But still, every paycheck is thinned by this hidden tax which I don’t want to pay because ... | 8k5puj | CMV: Not supporting universal healthcare is one of the most evil positions you can take. | It literally means that you think people should just drop dead if they can’t afford to treat their illnesses. It means that you hate poor people and you think they deserve to die because they’re poor. It means that you think that access to decent healthcare should be a privilege for only the rich. And it means that you... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Not supporting universal healthcare is one of the most evil positions you can take.
It literally means that you think people should just drop dead if they can’t afford to treat their illnesses. It means that you hate poor people and you think they deserve to die because they’re poor. It means that you think that ... | Universal healthcare is simply making other people pay for your healthcare. When should you have a right to make other people pay for something you can't afford yourself? Aren't there more basic needs than healthcare? Why not have universal food and universal housing as well? Those are more basic needs than even health... | You don't have to support universal healthcare to support providing healthcare for those who can't afford it.
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Can you elaborate on that? How is that possible?
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It's possible for the government to only supply healthcare to those who don't have the means to provide it for themselves. The US government does ... | 8k5puj | CMV: Not supporting universal healthcare is one of the most evil positions you can take. | It literally means that you think people should just drop dead if they can’t afford to treat their illnesses. It means that you hate poor people and you think they deserve to die because they’re poor. It means that you think that access to decent healthcare should be a privilege for only the rich. And it means that you... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: No valuable literature can be produced anymore
No valuable literature has been produced since *Finnegans Wake*, and none will be for a long time. The Modernists were the last generation to produce meaningful literature, because they benefited in a way that none had before them from the centralization of academic ... | online fan fiction is adding music to chapters, thus elevating the mood with chapter appropriate music
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Online fan fic is another medium which might innovate beyond the modernists, by using other works as the basis for their content whole cloth, rather than just allusively. But it's still in its infancy, so I wasn... | >The answer to this is that none of these works are actually valuable, because everything they do, Finnegans Wake does better.
So to be considered valuable, it's not enough to just provide some positive degree of value, you actually have to provide the best value that has ever been provided? By this definition, there... | o278x9 | CMV: No valuable literature can be produced anymore | No valuable literature has been produced since *Finnegans Wake*, and none will be for a long time. The Modernists were the last generation to produce meaningful literature, because they benefited in a way that none had before them from the centralization of academic resources into libraries and universities. This enabl... | Landsmcgeechesterson | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: No valuable literature can be produced anymore
No valuable literature has been produced since *Finnegans Wake*, and none will be for a long time. The Modernists were the last generation to produce meaningful literature, because they benefited in a way that none had before them from the centralization of academic ... | This is the most pretentious bit of hogwash I've read in quite some time. Are you seriously trying to tell me that no one has tried anything new in literature for 80 years?
Just off the top of my head we got Joseph Heller, Kurt Vonnegut, Harper Lee, George Orwell, Frank Herbert, Tolkein, I mean this is just pointless.... | >"What will CMV: A demonstration of some work or author which is successfully attempting to break new literary ground re: density, realism, or some other universal quality of literature (pertaining to the way things are said, rather than what is being said). Ideally, a description of the innovations found in Gravity's ... | o278x9 | CMV: No valuable literature can be produced anymore | No valuable literature has been produced since *Finnegans Wake*, and none will be for a long time. The Modernists were the last generation to produce meaningful literature, because they benefited in a way that none had before them from the centralization of academic resources into libraries and universities. This enabl... | Landsmcgeechesterson | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:Female Dating Strategy feels like the woman version of neck beards/Incels.
I just stumbled upon the FDS community and the posts there are just utterly terrifying. The expectations and “rules” of dating are next to impossible. The entire subreddit is toxic and enabling to woman of all ages. They created these abbre... | I made this point one time and it’s simple: a lot of those women have been not just disappointed or offended/disgusted by men from their experiences, but also straight-up traumatized (raped, assaulted, etc).
That forum wouldn’t exist with so many perceptibly toxic women if it wasn’t for so many toxic men sending them... | [deleted]
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I get it, but that’s a form of verbal attacking, which leads down the same road of being single no?
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CMV: Whoever asks the other person out on a date should pay for the date. But all subsequent dates should be split.
I recently found a tiktok on Instagram of a girl who was upset about a guy splitting the bill on a date. The comments were overwhelmingly against her and everyone was baffled that she still held these ar... | How about everyone just acts like adults and makes their own decisions about who pays? Social expectations are overrated anyway. If I want to offer to pay for someone’s drink or meal I’m going to. If someone offers to pay for mine that’s awesome of them. Maybe they’ll accept my offer, maybe I’ll accept theirs, maybe we... | This is not something that needs a rule. Everyone is different and has unique expectations and assumptions about dating.
The whole point of dating is to find someone you're compatible with. I don't see why "who pays for the date" should be any different. If you can't easily set the expectation around who pays for wh... | o287f2 | CMV: Whoever asks the other person out on a date should pay for the date. But all subsequent dates should be split. | I recently found a tiktok on Instagram of a girl who was upset about a guy splitting the bill on a date. The comments were overwhelmingly against her and everyone was baffled that she still held these archaic views of men paying for the date. At first I really agreed with these comments. My initial reasoning was that y... | paynehouse | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Office jobs with 9-5 hours, guaranteed weekends and stats off, and where the employee can choose to browse the internet or "try to look busy" are a luxury compared to service industry jobs
I've worked both, and I see so many posts on Reddit and hear from people in real life who have only ever worked office jobs d... | I don't think this can ever really be answered or changed, I think this completely comes down to personal preference and experience.
Some people may hate the feeling of doing nothing all day every day and trying to look busy, and would prefer to be busy and distracted for their entire shift.
Personally, I agree with ... | I don't dispute that the service jobs are harder, and I know there is no universally agreed upon definition or metric of "soul-sucking," but there is something uniquely soul-sucking about being in an office away from your kids/family/friends/passions and knowing that you're achieving absolutely nothing but the passage ... | atyzn9 | CMV: Office jobs with 9-5 hours, guaranteed weekends and stats off, and where the employee can choose to browse the internet or "try to look busy" are a luxury compared to service industry jobs | I've worked both, and I see so many posts on Reddit and hear from people in real life who have only ever worked office jobs discussing how soul-sucking these jobs are. My view is that working ten-hour days, usually late into the evening, oftentimes with only one day off a week (if that) at a restaurant where I hardly m... | heyimlump | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Opposing stricter gun control laws in America is morally wrong
The rate of gun deaths in America significantly larger than that of any other rich, Westernized country where gun control laws are much stricter. This [CBS article](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deaths-compare-to-other-countries/), and this ... | Your claims are unsubstantiated by evidence and historical trends. In the past 30 years, gun laws have become progressively looser in the US with more and more states adopting shall-issue CCW laws each decade and more citizens carrying. During this time all types of crime have plummeted, including homicide which is les... | >If stricter gun control laws are not enacted, America will continue to have a much larger rate of gun deaths than other countries.
This seems like a very carefully worded statement (perhaps unintentionally). Or look at this one:
>Moreover, based on statistics from other countries, if stricter gun control laws are e... | 6m1slm | CMV: Opposing stricter gun control laws in America is morally wrong | The rate of gun deaths in America significantly larger than that of any other rich, Westernized country where gun control laws are much stricter. This [CBS article](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deaths-compare-to-other-countries/), and this [NY times article](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/14/upshot/compare-... | YourFurryFriend1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Fashion industry should include models of all shapes and sizes
Now that Victoria's Secret is making a comeback, there has a lot of discourse over slim, lean women being the predominant type on haute couture and high fashion runways. Because this type doesn't represent the average woman and is for some an unattain... | Why should it be relatable rather than a celebration of beauty?
I don't see why some women are entitled to represented in fashion just because they exist. I think feeling bad about yourself because other are better/better looking is deeply unhealthy, especially when you conclude that it's the people who are better tha... | The main difference between regular fashion and high fashion is that regular fashion is mostly for wearability and looks, high fashion is mostly about art.
Unlike regular fashion high fashion models aren’t meant to be attractive or represent anyone, they are meant to accentuate the artistic merit of the clothing. Ski... | 11le09h | CMV: Fashion industry should include models of all shapes and sizes | Now that Victoria's Secret is making a comeback, there has a lot of discourse over slim, lean women being the predominant type on haute couture and high fashion runways. Because this type doesn't represent the average woman and is for some an unattainable goal, it causes many women to feel bad about themselves.
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CMV: The terms Cracker and Nigger should carry an equally negative connotation and neither should be allowed to be used in a negative context in modern society.
I understand if this gets removed, but I guarantee it's not because of the C word. As a white male, I am constantly concerned that people are going to view m... | White people aren’t offended by the C word. It’s not even a thing.
Plus, no one uses that word. Even in private, black people do not refer to white people that way. It’s “white people”. That’s it
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ht... | One of those words wasnt associated with Slavery and systemic oppression..
Edit. Letter
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But it was. We were just the oppressors | hnhx4w | CMV: The terms Cracker and Nigger should carry an equally negative connotation and neither should be allowed to be used in a negative context in modern society. | I understand if this gets removed, but I guarantee it's not because of the C word. As a white male, I am constantly concerned that people are going to view me as just a violent, racist, sexual predator. Calling me the C word (aka whip cracker) furthers this (IMO) pretty rational fear and is based in the same roots as... | MacDaddy039 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: No matter what your personal opinion on lootboxes, it's not a good idea to let the government start banning them from video games.
I spent most of my life watching conservative politicians rail against video games and attempt to control and dictate their content. I spent a lot of that time arguing against that a... | >Tell me how this isn't just opening the door to banning profanity and violence in video games that people are gleefully throwing open for the GOP to get their foot in.
That's not how the law works. Content restrictions on video games have been thrown out by court after court. This cannot open the door for that sort o... | Do you think the government should have the power to regulate gambling?
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No.
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Why?
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Because it's an action that someone can consent to doing that doesn't harm anyone else but that person.
I don't think it's smart to jump out of planes for fun, but I wouldn't dream of restricting anyone else's ability to... | bmiztu | CMV: No matter what your personal opinion on lootboxes, it's not a good idea to let the government start banning them from video games. | I spent most of my life watching conservative politicians rail against video games and attempt to control and dictate their content. I spent a lot of that time arguing against that and watching other gamers and free speech advocates take up that fight and win.
But recently, new legislation was submitted and the headl... | Teeklin | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: Kim Potter is not guilty of manslaughter.
I wanna preface this by saying I’m in no way pro-cop and my account history shows that. This is just a very specific case that I feel resulted in over-charging. I do believe though that it was completely appropriate for this to go to trial, because a cop shouldn’t just be... | Making a mistake resulting in someone's death is literally what manslaughter is.
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Edit- I accidentally mistyped
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Accidental post | rjdloa | CMV: Kim Potter is not guilty of manslaughter. | I wanna preface this by saying I’m in no way pro-cop and my account history shows that. This is just a very specific case that I feel resulted in over-charging. I do believe though that it was completely appropriate for this to go to trial, because a cop shouldn’t just be allowed to shoot someone on accident and not pr... | anonymous_j05 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Civil disobedience is sometimes morally justified
I believe that, in certain cases, disobeying the law, the state, and the police is morally justified. More specifically, assuming the state exists to reinforce a particular social order, if a non-government organization can be organized to do it better, I see no r... | >I believe that, in certain cases, disobeying the law, the state, and the police is morally justified. More specifically, assuming the state exists to reinforce a particular social order, if a non-government organization can be organized to do it better, I see no reason why it shouldn't.
You start at "breaking unjust... | Breaking the law damages the fabric of society by wasting taxpayer dollars on law enforcement and corrections. Without a strong system of law and order we will descend into chaos. You should instead work within the law to change it to suit your morality. Anything less is an affront to civilization!
Something like that... | oowh2r | CMV: Civil disobedience is sometimes morally justified | I believe that, in certain cases, disobeying the law, the state, and the police is morally justified. More specifically, assuming the state exists to reinforce a particular social order, if a non-government organization can be organized to do it better, I see no reason why it shouldn't.
Example: the [mission statement... | BanachTarskiWaluigi | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I resent men
Okay so this is the stupidest fucking thing but, here we go.
I love being a girl. I can put stuff in my bra when my hands and pockets are full, women's fashion is a lot more interesting than men's atm, I'm not judged for doing or enjoying musical theatre, and women are generally nice to me.
But sti... | Ok as a general rundown you just hate periods and the urge to be pregnant?
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And I resent men for not having to make this choice, yes
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Just going to flip this one over: imagine badly wanting children, but *having absolutely zero ability to do so, biologically or legally*. Men are wrongly viewed as the lesser s... | [removed]
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That was kind of poor choice of words on my part. I'm not necessarily angry all the time, but I do frequently have this concern.
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>I'm angry all the time and I want it to stop.
????? | iexhr0 | CMV: I resent men | Okay so this is the stupidest fucking thing but, here we go.
I love being a girl. I can put stuff in my bra when my hands and pockets are full, women's fashion is a lot more interesting than men's atm, I'm not judged for doing or enjoying musical theatre, and women are generally nice to me.
But still, there's this pi... | The77thTrombone | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Reparations should not be payed to African Americans
I'm more or less on the fence with this issue, BUT I see many points raised by anti-reparations proponents to be seemingly valid. First, I am not using the common argument against reparation of "I didn't do anything, why should I pay?". But I am having trouble... | Nobody paid.
The country was built on the backs of slaves. The success of the United States is owed in a large part to the sweat of forced labor and no one has ever atoned for that evil.
We all benefit from that labor in this country. It was stolen.
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Was it? Most slavery was used in agricultural work in the sou... | So the important thing to consider whenever people talk about "why should I pay?" is that they're not paying anything but their taxes. The government of the United States would be paying these reparations because the United States is both the party which wronged them and one if the few parties still extant.
The tax mo... | hncfnu | CMV: Reparations should not be payed to African Americans | I'm more or less on the fence with this issue, BUT I see many points raised by anti-reparations proponents to be seemingly valid. First, I am not using the common argument against reparation of "I didn't do anything, why should I pay?". But I am having trouble disagreeing with the view of "Neither I nor my ancestors ... | corybrzo | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Tran-sexuality is closer to a mental disorder than a gender or sexual orientation.
# First of all: I am not trolling or trying to hurt anyone's feelings. I am posting on here specifically in the hopes someone can give me some insight into this, I've asked people I know personally, but no one has helped me topple ... | [removed]
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Of what I understand, and it's very hard to keep up with every new acronym or label, that transgendered have a different identity than their assigned sex and that transexual means they want the sex change, but after googling it I found out that one doesn't necessarily mean the other. Not all people tha... | We only classify something as a mental disorder if it’s harmful — if it causes harm to self or society.
Most trans people, if they are allowed to live as their preferred gender, integrate perfectly well into society and are harmless.
So, why call it a disorder? Why spend resources treating something that isn’t a prob... | bmiz35 | CMV: Tran-sexuality is closer to a mental disorder than a gender or sexual orientation. | # First of all: I am not trolling or trying to hurt anyone's feelings. I am posting on here specifically in the hopes someone can give me some insight into this, I've asked people I know personally, but no one has helped me topple this....paradox my brain has created and I can't disassociate it.
1. I believe being Tra... | PatrickMcDee | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I Am Not A Religious Fundamentalist
People on Facebook have been calling me a religious fundamentalist.
Now, the definition of fundamentalism, usually applies to Christianity or Islam, and refers to people who take their scriptures absolutely literally. These people usually are not open to change or different In... | Maybe you arent according to the dictionary. But it sounds like you act like a fundamentalist. And on social media there is literally no difference. Maybe meditate on why people have this opinion of you.
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How do my actions make people assume fundamentalist?
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I wouldn't say, they assume you were a fundamentali... | Depends on what you posted on Facebook to make them call you a fundamentalist?
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Well, I posted some quotes about Hinduism being such a nice religion (just my opinion, not fact), and that I wear bindi every day and four prayer beads every day, I also said to this atheist that maybe if you think about divinity more... | rjck9s | CMV: I Am Not A Religious Fundamentalist | People on Facebook have been calling me a religious fundamentalist.
Now, the definition of fundamentalism, usually applies to Christianity or Islam, and refers to people who take their scriptures absolutely literally. These people usually are not open to change or different Interpretations and want their scripture to ... | AbiLovesTheology | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I Am Not A Religious Fundamentalist
People on Facebook have been calling me a religious fundamentalist.
Now, the definition of fundamentalism, usually applies to Christianity or Islam, and refers to people who take their scriptures absolutely literally. These people usually are not open to change or different In... | Depends on what you posted on Facebook to make them call you a fundamentalist?
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Well, I posted some quotes about Hinduism being such a nice religion (just my opinion, not fact), and that I wear bindi every day and four prayer beads every day, I also said to this atheist that maybe if you think about divinity more... | Blessing people that have not asked is pretty fundamentalist of you.
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May I politely how?
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!delta for the ... | rjck9s | CMV: I Am Not A Religious Fundamentalist | People on Facebook have been calling me a religious fundamentalist.
Now, the definition of fundamentalism, usually applies to Christianity or Islam, and refers to people who take their scriptures absolutely literally. These people usually are not open to change or different Interpretations and want their scripture to ... | AbiLovesTheology | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Instead of companies buying properties and flipping them, the govt. should buy them and section 8 them.
So instead of companies like Zillow and open door buying all of these properties and fixing them up a bit and flipping them, I think the government should participate in this program equally if not more, and b... | This is how you create a housing crisis.
The issue is supply. There is not enough housing being built, and the existing market is not sufficient in meeting the needs of those who want to live in those areas, and so the pricing rises. Your answer is to pull those homes from the market and further constrain supply.
The... | Just make it so only individuals can own property and not corporations. Will solve a lot of problems right away
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So what about when I want to buy food? Will there be a grocery store for me? And I definitely don’t have enough money to buy a house, but I am lucky to have found a nice apartment to rent. It is owned ... | rjbs21 | CMV: Instead of companies buying properties and flipping them, the govt. should buy them and section 8 them. | So instead of companies like Zillow and open door buying all of these properties and fixing them up a bit and flipping them, I think the government should participate in this program equally if not more, and buy all of these properties and section 8 them. So then poor people or people in need could have opportunities ... | Alexandria_Scott | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Abortion is morally wrong in all cases except for danger to the mother’s health
I strongly believe that abortion is immoral in almost all cases including rape and incest, with only an exception for significant danger to the mother’s health. I am not religious in any way, and I have no bias. I see abortion as murd... | You say abortion is morally wrong except for danger's to the mother's health. What percent odds of dangerous complication or death to the mother have to be there before you view it as morally acceptable?
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50% or less chance of survival of the mother.
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A cancer patient is about to start chemo, when they disco... | How is aborting a child of rape morally wrong? I agree with most other cases, incest is a long story but there's implied consent, rape indicates a removal of the capability of choice, it should be the woman's choice in case of rape to abort or not. She doesn't have to live with a constant reminder of being hurt.
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... | bm2sb6 | CMV: Abortion is morally wrong in all cases except for danger to the mother’s health | I strongly believe that abortion is immoral in almost all cases including rape and incest, with only an exception for significant danger to the mother’s health. I am not religious in any way, and I have no bias. I see abortion as murder, and believe that the only reason abortion is legal in most developed countries is ... | TastelessHurricane | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: student loan forgiveness is a terrible idea and the only people demanding it are the ones with large amounts of debt
Some of us went to a state school, picked a high demand degree, worked part time jobs in college, and avoided Spring Break destinations because we couldn't afford it. There were weeks at a time I c... | There is no “right way” to get your education and everyone should be able to get a “fun, sexy” degree for free. Getting in tons of debt just for going to school is ridiculous and you shouldn’t have to be forced to work to support your education, nor should you be forced to give up simple pleasures like fancy coffee or ... | We should cancel government backed student loans. I'm not just talking about the debt, I am talking about the whole system. The reason college tuition has exploded is because basically anyone can get a loan from a government backed lender. If everyone can "afford" college, why wouldn't the colleges and universities ... | rj93l6 | CMV: student loan forgiveness is a terrible idea and the only people demanding it are the ones with large amounts of debt | Some of us went to a state school, picked a high demand degree, worked part time jobs in college, and avoided Spring Break destinations because we couldn't afford it. There were weeks at a time I can recall eating nothing but .50 cent ramen with an added baked potato to quench the hunger, and cheap beer of course, with... | iareagenius | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: student loan forgiveness is a terrible idea and the only people demanding it are the ones with large amounts of debt
Some of us went to a state school, picked a high demand degree, worked part time jobs in college, and avoided Spring Break destinations because we couldn't afford it. There were weeks at a time I c... | I don't have any student loan debt, and I still think student loan debt should be forgiven. Delta please.
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Right? Not only that, but I've paid back my loans as 6 and 9% interest and I want current student loan debt erased. I'm one of the people OP says should be against it, and I'm all for it. | There is no “right way” to get your education and everyone should be able to get a “fun, sexy” degree for free. Getting in tons of debt just for going to school is ridiculous and you shouldn’t have to be forced to work to support your education, nor should you be forced to give up simple pleasures like fancy coffee or ... | rj93l6 | CMV: student loan forgiveness is a terrible idea and the only people demanding it are the ones with large amounts of debt | Some of us went to a state school, picked a high demand degree, worked part time jobs in college, and avoided Spring Break destinations because we couldn't afford it. There were weeks at a time I can recall eating nothing but .50 cent ramen with an added baked potato to quench the hunger, and cheap beer of course, with... | iareagenius | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: If North America belongs to the Native Americans, then Jerusalem belongs to the jews.
I'm really hoping that the fine people here at CMV can do some magic on me, because this is genuinely making me go crazy.
I've been told my entire life that North America rightly belongs to the Native American people, because t... | What is the criterion by which you determine "X belongs to Y"? Apparently it's something to do with being descended from the earliest people recorded having lived somewhere, but what extent of descent?
[This](https://api.culture.pl/sites/default/files/images/imported/Miejsca/Modern_Poland/lauder_morasha_ag.jpg) is a p... | The Jews were not the people who originally settled the area around Jerusalem. Even the Bible places the Canaanites in the area first, who the Jews conquer. So if only the original original inhabitants have a claim then Native Ameicans would have a claim on America but the Jews wouldn't on Israel.
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But the Canaani... | 8k1r40 | CMV: If North America belongs to the Native Americans, then Jerusalem belongs to the jews. | I'm really hoping that the fine people here at CMV can do some magic on me, because this is genuinely making me go crazy.
I've been told my entire life that North America rightly belongs to the Native American people, because they were here before us, and we forced them out. I have no issue with that, and I 100% agre... | kkslider55 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The furry fandom is fucking toxic.
There's witch hunts everywhere, people will get on you for anything and everything, the fandom is full of SJWs and a hivemind who actively bullies and gatekeeps for things they don't even remotely like. The bullying has gotten worse over the years and I don't know if it's gonna ... | I think where you're seeing that toxicity come from is mostly a vocal minority.
It's as if I said every person that's pro equal rights is a crazy feminist that wants men enslaved or some shit.
Point is, you can't assume someone is toxic ir wants to associate with toxic behaviour because they are a furry.
Some of t... | >If you're gonna say that all fandoms are toxic like this, then what I have to say is, that's whataboutism, and the furry fandom is more toxic than any other fandom (in my experience).
So, no, it wouldn't be whataboutism. Assessing the ingroup / outgroup qualities of your fandom absolutely merits comparison to another... | atxeae | CMV: The furry fandom is fucking toxic. | There's witch hunts everywhere, people will get on you for anything and everything, the fandom is full of SJWs and a hivemind who actively bullies and gatekeeps for things they don't even remotely like. The bullying has gotten worse over the years and I don't know if it's gonna stop.
Honestly, this is why I left the f... | 28485829293throwaway | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Settlers and immigrants are entirely different concepts. The people who came to the countries hundreds of years ago in NA and Aus were settlers and not immigrants. And the descendents of hose who settled are natives to the country as much as the Indigenous folks are.
According to Cambridge Dictionary, the term "s... | >The difference lies in the fact whether is an existing country that they migrate. The definiton of settlers suggest this part of the land is not part of any country and thus can be claimed while for immigrants, it suggests that there is pre-existing country.
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CMV: Religious Clothing Shouldn't Be Allowed In Schools With Uniforms
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Many schools, particularly in the UK, where I am from, have a mandatory uniform policy from ages 4-16 years. In these policies, many schools ban headwear in the school building, but make an exception for religious headwear like the Islamic hijab... | Let's take a step back and look at why schools that have uniform policies have them. Presumably they exist because they believe they create a better learning environment for students or help students model professional behavior in their dress (we can debate how successful they are at those aims, but I do think that's g... | Because people's religious beliefs matter more to them than state school rules, as they should.
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Why is that though? No proof for them.I think state school rules should matter more and I'm religious.
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Do your morals matter more to you than school rules?
Why is that?
To your edit, lol, no you're not. No one ... | o1tbxm | CMV: Religious Clothing Shouldn't Be Allowed In Schools With Uniforms | #
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CMV There shouldn't be a punishment for lying abour rape
Don't get me wrong it's a horrible thing to do but I believe that punishing it would cause more harm than not punishing it. Rape cases are almost always hard to prove because there is usually not a lot of evidence and obviously we can't punishing people for losi... | If someone has lied all the way through a trial why are they suddenly gonna change their mind? They're obviously maliciously targeting the "rapist" so I don't see how there would be a sudden change of heart at the end.
Also, under current laws lying in a trial is already illegal. It's perjury.
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Oh I see, I got i... | Do you know what perjury is?
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No what is it?
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Lying under oath is a crime. | atxe70 | CMV There shouldn't be a punishment for lying abour rape | Don't get me wrong it's a horrible thing to do but I believe that punishing it would cause more harm than not punishing it. Rape cases are almost always hard to prove because there is usually not a lot of evidence and obviously we can't punishing people for losing the trial as that would discourage people to report rap... | KaramellKnullaren | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: cats are smarter than dogs on average
By intelligence I am referring to an ability to problem solve. I’m not talking about how easy they are to train. I haven’t had nearly as many dogs as I have had cats so I could definitely be wrong on this. But I’ve seen my cats do some VERY smart things and I just haven’t had... | I would argue being trainable in multiple areas is a form of intelligence. Dogs are trained to provide an array of important services to humans (guide dogs, assisting firefighters and police, etc.) and the ability to do this definitely requires considerable intelligence.
Perhaps one of the best examples to demonstrate... | I don’t see any cats being trained to sniff bombs/drugs, guide blind people, or detect heart attacks. If you think about it, training really is problem solving. Dogs are faced with a decision in which there is a reward when choosing the right option. A dog is able to determine the right action to take in order to achie... | 106ybxf | CMV: cats are smarter than dogs on average | By intelligence I am referring to an ability to problem solve. I’m not talking about how easy they are to train. I haven’t had nearly as many dogs as I have had cats so I could definitely be wrong on this. But I’ve seen my cats do some VERY smart things and I just haven’t had the experience with dogs to know if they ca... | liamweist | 3 | 3 | [
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By intelligence I am referring to an ability to problem solve. I’m not talking about how easy they are to train. I haven’t had nearly as many dogs as I have had cats so I could definitely be wrong on this. But I’ve seen my cats do some VERY smart things and I just haven’t had... | well there's dogs out there with jobs like sniffing out drugs, walking blind people, etc. I've never heard of a cat working a 9-5
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CMV: The 2nd amendment is pointless.
This has been discussed a lot before, and I'm open to rehashing some of those old debates, but in general I'm not really focused on theoretical debates. I'm more interested in what it has done, or hasn't done.
I'm assuming the intent of the 2nd amendment is to prevent tyrannical g... | This would be a good time to mention the 'boxes of liberty'
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Lastly, and at the bottom of the list is 'Cartridge Box' which is armed rebellion.
... | I'm sure you've noticed that police like to get violent when a black crowd protests. [These](https://urbanintellectuals.com/2017/07/17/armed-black-protesters-cause-cleveland-police-call-temp-suspension-second-amendment-open-carry-law/) blacks openly carried firearms during a protest, and the police didn't start anythin... | 8jww33 | CMV: The 2nd amendment is pointless. | This has been discussed a lot before, and I'm open to rehashing some of those old debates, but in general I'm not really focused on theoretical debates. I'm more interested in what it has done, or hasn't done.
I'm assuming the intent of the 2nd amendment is to prevent tyrannical governments. Based on that..what has th... | AlphaGoGoDancer | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: (For most people) It’s better to get a large tax refund than adjust their withholding to get slightly larger paychecks
There is a lot of smug moralizing and hand-wringing at places like r/personalfinance and among others who say that getting a large refund means “you gave the government an interest free loan.” Th... | You basically just said people are bad at saving so they won’t save extra money in their paychecks but if they get a large refund they will save it. Why is this the case?
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Part of my argument precedes that. If people are bad at savings they will never save money. If you get a $2000 tax refund it’s done. But I als... | If people are using the money to pay off debt, it's better that it's not withheld. The interest rates on loans are almost always going to be higher than what they earn in savings.
If they want a savings/emergency fund, it's still better to let that grow throughout the year, as they'll get interest on it.
It's only bett... | atvhn4 | CMV: (For most people) It’s better to get a large tax refund than adjust their withholding to get slightly larger paychecks | There is a lot of smug moralizing and hand-wringing at places like r/personalfinance and among others who say that getting a large refund means “you gave the government an interest free loan.” There are also GOP reps saying that refunds being down double digits is proof that the tax law is working because people paid l... | miguelguajiro | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Every parent is responsible for an act of violence against their children
\*Content warning for anyone suicidal: Discussions of how life is not worth living. Also discussion of sexual violence.\*
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I can feel stupid irrational things, and still have the logical ability to see it's dumb and have no control over those feelings.
I think my argument is rational because it is based on... | The main problem with this is that it seems like it would lead to a defeatist/fatalist mindset that would excuse all negative behavior towards people.
Let's say that a child gets sick because the baby food company had a contamination. However, when the parents try to hold the food company responsible for malpractice ... | ieoce8 | CMV: Every parent is responsible for an act of violence against their children |
\*Content warning for anyone suicidal: Discussions of how life is not worth living. Also discussion of sexual violence.\*
I heard Chomsky say something about people being able to be held accountable for the consequences of their actions if they are in a position to be aware that such consequences will follow from t... | Raspint | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: The Two State Solution is Inviable and Will Only Lead to the Status Quo
Sorry if this seems poorly fleshed out or worded, I'm on mobile.
First off, disclosures: I am a westerner descendant of Palestenian refugees. I am proud of my Palestenian heritage, but I want to diffuse any notion right away that I am an ant... | "I do not believe arabs were inherrently hostile to Jews before this conflict."
Then why were they being expelled from or evacuated out of Muslim majority countries as soon as the state of Israel was declared?
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First off, disclosures: I am a westerner descendant of Palestenian refugees. I am proud of my Palestenian heritage, but I want to diffuse any notion right away that I am an anti-semite. I am an atheist; I despise all religion and definitely its extreme p... | Russel_Jimmies95 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: USA of today isn't even close to the same country of 10 years ago
I didn't want to believe it. Not just listening to political debates and what the candidates are saying on the campaign trail. Not just what people say about the candidates and why they support them. Tonal shifts, arguments made, the justification... | 10 years ago we had a president who was killing children and blowing up hospitals with robots, who was still denying the harm caused by the war on drugs, who was still continuing the systematic use of torture. We had far less public awareness of police violence, but that violence was still very much ongoing. All the pr... | I won’t disagree with the header. I think where I’d like to change your view is in the end, that this is the “Path for our country”.
Progress. Is. Not. Linear.
This is not the first time we’ve been under a fascist regime. It’s not the first time we’ve had economic crises make monsters out of decent people. It’s ... | 1gi44fn | CMV: USA of today isn't even close to the same country of 10 years ago | I didn't want to believe it. Not just listening to political debates and what the candidates are saying on the campaign trail. Not just what people say about the candidates and why they support them. Tonal shifts, arguments made, the justifications told all spoke of something much more fundamental.
Ten years ago we ha... | Cirrious | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Christianity as an "organized religion" is fundamentally flawed, cultish, fake, and full of liars
The idea of Christianity as "organized religion" sees it is, by definition, cultist. The word *cult* has a negative connotation, but by it's black-and-white definition, it falls into that category: *n. a system of re... | > to "prove" God exists (Christianity's God, here, as that's the subject matter) would invalidate Christianity, as one of the basis for the entire religion is that God cannot be proven, and thusly requires blind faith to follow.
The Catholic catechism says God can be known with certainty by the natural reason, so ... | >The word cult has a negative connotation, but by it's black-and-white definition, it falls into that category: n. a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
Here's the problem: there are multiple meanings of cult. Merriam-Webster, for instance, lists no less than ... | 11kcd8x | CMV: Christianity as an "organized religion" is fundamentally flawed, cultish, fake, and full of liars | The idea of Christianity as "organized religion" sees it is, by definition, cultist. The word *cult* has a negative connotation, but by it's black-and-white definition, it falls into that category: *n. a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.* Anyone who associates wi... | justa_Kite | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The fact that Service Animals do not have to be formally certified/professionally trained is absolutely absurd and needs to be changed
(In the US specifically) https://www.ada.gov/topics/service-animals/
Quote: “Service animals are not: Required to be certified or go through a professional training program”
I ... | Trained animals are insanely expensive. If they had to go through a formal process the would be unaffordable to most people. There are companies that provide help for training your own service animal to make them more accessible (though still expensive) such as Atlas Assistance Dogs
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The cost is certainly a conce... | What additional protections would this offer, that aren't already part of the system as it stands?
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The guarantee that, say, I need a service animal for a specific task, and I find a trainer who can provide that animal for me. The certification is the proof that the animal is qualified to do that task.
I don’t s... | 1pu9lvl | CMV: The fact that Service Animals do not have to be formally certified/professionally trained is absolutely absurd and needs to be changed | (In the US specifically) https://www.ada.gov/topics/service-animals/
Quote: “Service animals are not: Required to be certified or go through a professional training program”
I dunno I’m mostly going off of vibes here, but is that as absurd as it feels? Service animals do a ton of work and are incredibly valuable to... | Odd-Search-1212 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: having no burnt popcorn is more important than popping all kernels
I used to work at a cinema and they use pretty expensive machines that can do both, but even then, every once in a while someone would burn popcorn and you would literally have to put the burnt popcorn in a trash bag and walk it out of the buildin... | Unpopped kernels are a dental hazard. Every year many people break a tooth chomping down on one. Definitely worth keeping in mind as you get older and your teeth brittler.
A good solution is to replace the microwave with the stove. The one advantage the microwave has going for it is a small bit of extra convenience. B... | [deleted]
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how does that challenge the OP's view | hn60yv | CMV: having no burnt popcorn is more important than popping all kernels | I used to work at a cinema and they use pretty expensive machines that can do both, but even then, every once in a while someone would burn popcorn and you would literally have to put the burnt popcorn in a trash bag and walk it out of the building. It's not ridiculous either - burnt popcorn is not appetizing and adver... | Bcmerr02 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: It is not wrong to value health, ability, and beauty
There’s a fair amount of criticism of how society values certain traits and people to the detriment of others, a lot of it warranted. However, my view is that it’s not inherently wrong to value health, ability, and beauty. I think that’s natural and desirable; ... | I think the problem is not with valuing health, ability, and beauty, but with devaluing people who don't appear to have health, ability, and beauty.
It's fine that you enjoy running and hearing, but you shouldn't think a disabled person who uses a cane or is Deaf has less value as a person. Hearing and athleticism are... | I think you're misunderstanding the body positivity movement if you think it has anything to do with not valuing beauty. It's closer to the opposite of that. It's more about the idea of being willing to accept that beauty comes in more sizes and shapes than what mainstream society would have you believe, based on mov... | bm67fc | CMV: It is not wrong to value health, ability, and beauty | There’s a fair amount of criticism of how society values certain traits and people to the detriment of others, a lot of it warranted. However, my view is that it’s not inherently wrong to value health, ability, and beauty. I think that’s natural and desirable; it’s not “ableist” or “fatphobic.”
One example the social ... | AntiFascist_Waffle | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I have no emotional connection to my religion. Having an emotional connection to a religion is strange.
I am a practicing Hindu. Every day, I try to meditate, chant mantras, perform rituals etc, I also burn incense, listen to bhajan (devotional songs) etc. I go to a temple meet up group weekly for around 2 hours.... | It's very possible that your religious practice differs from others, but for many people religion is a matter of deep personal faith that supercedes logic; it *has* to work on an emotional level. It isn't strange at all to have an emotional connection to that.
Additionally, experiencing depersonalization constantly is... | Do you feel a personal connection to any non-religious personal beliefs? Point being that people feel emotionally connected to all kinds of things. Feeling connected to a religion and a community is no less strange than feeling connected to a particular music artist or TV show.
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Not my beliefs, but I do feel an em... | ooac01 | CMV: I have no emotional connection to my religion. Having an emotional connection to a religion is strange. | I am a practicing Hindu. Every day, I try to meditate, chant mantras, perform rituals etc, I also burn incense, listen to bhajan (devotional songs) etc. I go to a temple meet up group weekly for around 2 hours.
Thing is, I don't think I feel any emotional connection to Hinduism at all. I don't care if anyone says anyt... | AbiLovesTheology | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV:We would be better off as a society not pursuing AI and Automation any further. We are setting ourselves up for disaster. Also, Basic Income is not a good enough solution.
Hey everyone. This is my first post here so I’m a bit nervous. It’s pretty long but I tried to keep it organized.
Below are my views so far a... | The goal for humans should always be to eliminate work. The only reason people are scared of losing jobs is because our society isn't structured to allow people to survive without jobs even though eliminating work is the goal.
That's why a UBI is a suggestion on how to handle a post-work society.
Currently in the USA... | >because eventually even the CEOs, IT and engineers of these pioneering companies will be unemployed when the AI becomes smart enough to develop itself and even start its own companies.
>because basically no one will be paying taxes, because pretty much everyone's going to be unemployed.
Either AIs can start their ow... | 6m7xtl | CMV:We would be better off as a society not pursuing AI and Automation any further. We are setting ourselves up for disaster. Also, Basic Income is not a good enough solution. | Hey everyone. This is my first post here so I’m a bit nervous. It’s pretty long but I tried to keep it organized.
Below are my views so far about automation, artificial intelligence and basic income, and where I think it will ultimately lead. BI is included because it’s always the mentioned solution for the flaws wit... | JeremyBoob | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: People on reddit favor women over men
When a man does something shitty and the story is posted on reddit, people are very quick to call the man an AH and wish him awful things, even if the backstory is not told. People don’t ask any questions, they just judge him based on the story and all this especially happens... | So, based on the way you're phrasing your post, I'm assuming that by "on Reddit" you primarily mean in relationship-focused or drama-focused subs like AITA or r/relationships. If that's not the case, please mention which subs in particular you've seen this in--some links to example posts would be nice too.
The first t... | Well, depending on what you are exactly on about. Women are still second class citizens in more than half the world and in the rest, they have only received rights in the past 100 years, so objectively, that isn't correct at all unless all reddit users are from countries where women have just as must rights as men and... | 105nq8y | CMV: People on reddit favor women over men | When a man does something shitty and the story is posted on reddit, people are very quick to call the man an AH and wish him awful things, even if the backstory is not told. People don’t ask any questions, they just judge him based on the story and all this especially happens when a man has done something shitty toward... | lemonmoister | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Korean barbecue makes no sense
First a definition: I am aware that there are multiple kinds of Korean barbecue. For this argument, I am referring to the kinds of Korean barbecue where the restaurant brings you uncooked meat and you cook it at your table either with a portable grill, or a grill built into the tabl... | You aren't preparing the meat. You are cooking it. The meat is already prepared. The art isn't in the cooking... otherwise they would never ask how you want it cooked.
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What preparation, besides the butchering of the meat into designated parts -- something you can get done at your local butcher for a fraction of t... | Korean barbecue lets you eat the meat when it is freshly cooked. Because this sort of barbecue involves very thinly sliced meats, it cools down and loses some of its quality very quickly. If the meat were cooked in the kitchen, it would already be too cold by the time it reached your table. Heck, even if your entire po... | o1ibsx | CMV: Korean barbecue makes no sense | First a definition: I am aware that there are multiple kinds of Korean barbecue. For this argument, I am referring to the kinds of Korean barbecue where the restaurant brings you uncooked meat and you cook it at your table either with a portable grill, or a grill built into the table.
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CMV: College and University is a huge societal detriment in its current popularity, due to lessening the working population and requiring tax payer money. The practices encouraging it (i.e. irrelevant degree requirements) should be made illegal.
Keep in mind im only 21, have limited work experience, and the classes ar... | As someone who has worked extensively with recruiting I think I can help you a bit here.
- Having a degree is empirical evidence that you can finish what you start on the long term and commit to intellectual, social and structured goals as a part of an institution. As an employer I want you to complete your project... | >these "unrelated" classes have significant impact on our productiveness as an employee (thats assuming you even go into work in the same field as your degree)
lets look through 3 unrelated class, philosophy, writing and a language
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CMV: The sex positive movement is ignoring the voices and needs of the most vulnerable sex workers
By the most vulnerable sex workers, I mean those that are completely dependant on it for their income, that have limited alternative opportunities due to lack of education of criminal records or discrimination, and are s... | You've left out the actual most vulnerable group: people being held as slaves.
And all these groups but especially that one benefit from full legalization and regulation or Unionization with OSHA standards and everything just like any other workplace. That helps with reducing problematic exploitation, with getting sl... | >While the former takes pride in being a sex worker and glamorizes it, the later is probably desperate to escape the industry.
Where do you get this take from? Because as you've written it it's just your assumption. There are also plenty of full service sex workers(including some of those most vulnerable workers you m... | 106hzq4 | CMV: The sex positive movement is ignoring the voices and needs of the most vulnerable sex workers | By the most vulnerable sex workers, I mean those that are completely dependant on it for their income, that have limited alternative opportunities due to lack of education of criminal records or discrimination, and are struggling with history of abuse or mental illness or drug addiction that pushed them into the indust... | PM_ME_KITTYNIPPLES | 8 | 8 | [
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CMV: female products aren’t costlier due to sexism.
Here’s my reasoning.
Why would they be?
They are more expensive because people buy them, not sexism.
I believe that the statistics show that these companies are sexist, but sexism is unprofitable.
So what’s the point?
Market forces cause this as there used to be a... | >Why would they be? They are more expensive because people buy them, not sexism.
And people buy them because they are marketed as being more suitable for X gender, while they are exactly the same. Pink female razor is not different from unisex yellow razor, but it is marketed as better because it is "changed", whil... | Why, in your opinion, does a pink razor cost more than a red one that's exactly the same? It even uses less coloring.
>And to go on a bit of a tangent. racism is unprofitable as well, as the slaves required housing and other things that had to be paid directly by the owner.
Oh boy, wow. Well, to answer this like ... | 11k4jfp | CMV: female products aren’t costlier due to sexism. |
Here’s my reasoning.
Why would they be?
They are more expensive because people buy them, not sexism.
I believe that the statistics show that these companies are sexist, but sexism is unprofitable.
So what’s the point?
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Here’s my reasoning.
Why would they be?
They are more expensive because people buy them, not sexism.
I believe that the statistics show that these companies are sexist, but sexism is unprofitable.
So what’s the point?
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And people buy them because they are marketed as being more suitable for X gender, while they are exactly the same. Pink female razor is not different from unisex yellow razor, but it is marketed as better because it is "changed", whil... | 11k4jfp | CMV: female products aren’t costlier due to sexism. |
Here’s my reasoning.
Why would they be?
They are more expensive because people buy them, not sexism.
I believe that the statistics show that these companies are sexist, but sexism is unprofitable.
So what’s the point?
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CMV: People In Romantic Relationships Don't Need Friends
For context, I am aromantic asexual, and my view is informed by that. If you are unfamiliar, this means I do not experience romantic love and never have, never will. I'm also in my late 20s.
I genuinely believe that people who enter a romantic relationship shou... | >For context, I am aromantic asexual, and my view is informed by that. If you are unfamiliar, this means I do not experience romantic love and never have, never will. I'm also in my late 20s.
Then, with the greatest possible respect, any opinion you have on what people in romantic relationships do or don't need is str... | I'm really sorry you've only had really awful friends. Please know your experience isn't the norm.
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Yeah there's probably something odd going on, common denominator is OP. | 1pu5j5k | CMV: People In Romantic Relationships Don't Need Friends | For context, I am aromantic asexual, and my view is informed by that. If you are unfamiliar, this means I do not experience romantic love and never have, never will. I'm also in my late 20s.
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CMV: Pineapple Belongs On Pizza
I see a lot of really serious stuff here so here's a more lighthearted one! Sorry if it's overdone I've never seen this one before if it is my bad. Pineapple is a great pizza topping. It's sweet and a bit sour and there's no other topping like it. Pineapple and sausage pizzas are just t... | Do you believe there are any non-toxic ingredients that do not "belong" on pizza?
I could say sour gummy worms belong on pizza because it's sweet and a bit sour and there's no other topping like it.
If that is a valid arguments for pineapple "belonging" on pizza, then it's valid for any potential edible topping I w... | Opinions and personal taste of pineapple on pizza aside, it truly doesn't belong on what many consider pizza. Authentic pizza just doesn't have pineapple on it, it's a new invention in America. Pineapple may belong on American Pizza perhaps, but the authentic and original pizza? No.
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Didn’t it start in Canada?
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CMV: Saying "abortion is about a woman's choice over her own body" is a very, very bad argument.
Disclaimer: I'm a pro-choice man, I just think this one argument is shit.
The argument I am rejecting: "This is about a woman's right to choose what she can and cannot do with her own body, you wouldn't see the law decid... | I think you misunderstand the argument.
The right to choice in this argument is derived in ones right to "domain" over their body. It's not about a right to a pretty. body, or to keep it looking a certain way. It's about domain over what is an isn't allowed in ones body who who gets to make that choice.
It's not ... | > It trivialises the issues by making it seem skin deep
What it does is cut through the bullshit. Abortion ought to be legal because women ought to control their own bodies. That's a succinct viewpoint that affords people the leeway to personally oppose abortion but still acknowledge why it should be legal (in other w... | 8jugq5 | CMV: Saying "abortion is about a woman's choice over her own body" is a very, very bad argument. | Disclaimer: I'm a pro-choice man, I just think this one argument is shit.
The argument I am rejecting: "This is about a woman's right to choose what she can and cannot do with her own body, you wouldn't see the law deciding what men can/not do with their bodies. If you are against abortion, you are against women's ri... | DearThrowawayDiary | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Workplace programs should be the focus of obesity interventions in North America
I'm specifying North America because most of my knowledge about the obesity epidemic and interventions is about the US and Canada, but I'm sure it applies elsewhere too. From my knowledge, most government initiatives for reducing obe... | It would be a hard sell for government to require business to educate their workforce about nutrition. It may work with government jobs, but won’t work in the private sector.
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I wasn't intending for the business owner to be responsible for it. I think that the government should fund programs that would come into t... | It’s not just children, it’s also teens who are taught healthy eating choices, food pyramid, home economics, calories in V calories out type thing, at least that was part of the high school curriculum 10 years ago when I graduated.
I don’t see why overweight people need a workplace intervention, surely overweight adu... | o19q0x | CMV: Workplace programs should be the focus of obesity interventions in North America | I'm specifying North America because most of my knowledge about the obesity epidemic and interventions is about the US and Canada, but I'm sure it applies elsewhere too. From my knowledge, most government initiatives for reducing obesity and improving nutrition/exercise knowledge have focused on children in schools. I ... | naughtyschool_girl | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: the majority of "Child Free" couples are child free for fundamentally selfish reasons
So first let me define a "child free" couple as any couple that has decided that they will never have children, period, no wiggle room.
Now before I go deeply into why I hold this view, I'll acknowledge there's exceptions; peop... | [deleted]
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I assume that this is a request for clarification? I made no claims about whether or not having children is selfish or selfless. People can want children for selfish reasons; vanity, power, or maybe there's an inheritance at stake. But I'd argue that many people choose to have children with a lower leve... | Why should people have to practice altruism to hyper prioritize society?
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Pretty much; it's an issue of the free rider problem. Look at Japan as an example of a society with fertility problems. They aren't unique they are just ahead of us. We will all be kinda boned if we stop having kids, even a percentage point ... | 6m3x7z | CMV: the majority of "Child Free" couples are child free for fundamentally selfish reasons | So first let me define a "child free" couple as any couple that has decided that they will never have children, period, no wiggle room.
Now before I go deeply into why I hold this view, I'll acknowledge there's exceptions; people with diseases that severely shorten their lifespan may not want to bring up children. Peo... | dontFlameMeTooMuch | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Drake is extremely overrated as an artist and doesn’t deserve the recognition he gets
Don’t get me wrong, Drake has a few songs here and there that are pretty good - but off the top of my head I can name 20+ rappers who have a better flow, much better lyrics, beats etc...
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You lost me at The Beatles. They were genre-defining, genuinely innovative and were able to reinvent themselves to not only move with the times, but stay ahead of them.
Drake doesn’t even write his own songs.
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Thats all your personal opinion, there isn't really a way to empirically measure any of that. They only consistent way to measure a music artists quality is record sales which Drake has certainly excelled in t... | hmvrdq | CMV: Drake is extremely overrated as an artist and doesn’t deserve the recognition he gets | Don’t get me wrong, Drake has a few songs here and there that are pretty good - but off the top of my head I can name 20+ rappers who have a better flow, much better lyrics, beats etc...
I just have no clue why he’s so popular and overhyped by almost everyone? He’s nothing more than generic to me.
Just to clarify i’... | icewaterdimension | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Asian Americans shouldn't support affirmative action in college admissions.
First off, let's be clear that affirmative action heavily discriminates against Asians. We can look at the [2004 Princeton study](https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/files/webAdmission%20Preferences%20Espenshade%20Chung%20Walling%20Dec%2... | **Should** we support something because it benefits us selfishly? or **Should** we support something because we feel it is the right thing to do?
If the former, would you argue that white people *should* support slavery? Because they benefit from it? That abolishing slavery is against their interests, therefore they *... | What about the argument that the racial demographics of top colleges should roughly mirror the racial demographics of the young adult cohort in the college's country?
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First off, let's be clear that affirmative action heavily discriminates against Asians. We can look at the [2004 Princeton study](https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/files/webAdmission%20Preferences%20Espenshade%20Chung%20Walling%20Dec%2... | Your CMV is largely identical to "whites shouldn't support affirmative action because they are discriminated against". Any honest proponent of AA concedes that point, but argues it's better for social harmony to uplift more socially disadvantaged ethnic groups.
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1. I think this is irrelev... | **Should** we support something because it benefits us selfishly? or **Should** we support something because we feel it is the right thing to do?
If the former, would you argue that white people *should* support slavery? Because they benefit from it? That abolishing slavery is against their interests, therefore they *... | 10645mk | CMV: Asian Americans shouldn't support affirmative action in college admissions. | First off, let's be clear that affirmative action heavily discriminates against Asians. We can look at the [2004 Princeton study](https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/files/webAdmission%20Preferences%20Espenshade%20Chung%20Walling%20Dec%202004.pdf), which found that out of a 1600-point scale, identifying as Asian was e... | Comfortable_Tart_297 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: More immigrants to America would increase the productivity and quality of life of the native population
I think that America should accept legitimate immigrants (but not "refugees" who will immediately go on welfare) because the immigrants are self-selected to be driven people who will work hard to achieve succes... | You are correct in that immigrants will improve the standard of living in America in the long run, but you fail to consider the short term consequences of immigration.
Let's imagine a town of coal workers. Immigrants flock to this town because it has lots of shops and they take the jobs of the native-born coal workers... | Most immigrants are hard working people, often more industrious than those of the country where they originated. Seeing a person work hard has not, in history, resulted in other people working equally as hard. In fact I have had jobs where one person workers harder and others slack off.
Many Americans seem to have t... | 6m8v6s | CMV: More immigrants to America would increase the productivity and quality of life of the native population | I think that America should accept legitimate immigrants (but not "refugees" who will immediately go on welfare) because the immigrants are self-selected to be driven people who will work hard to achieve success. I believe that that work ethic will transfer to native-born Americans making their lives much better both b... | ThetaVega | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Phrases like "Eat the Rich" and "Defund the Police" are actually stunting progress
I know shock value gets the attention needed to make change. I know we have to overcorrect in order to net out some progress once things backslide. I just think these phrases that get an activist 105k likes on Twitter come at a hug... | > The way to persuade people is to meet them where they are, to find common ground and help them understand why their current view needs changing
That's the way things should be if everyone was educated and debated intelligently. The past shown us that this is not what works well.
What works well is to move the Over... | > They feel driven by shock value in order to garner personal attention
They literally are. That's sloganeering. That's the point.
What happened on the Right is that it held this slogan to its literal sense, disingenuously (because that's not how sloganeering works), and *that's* what is stunting progress. It's the R... | 1061vu6 | CMV: Phrases like "Eat the Rich" and "Defund the Police" are actually stunting progress | I know shock value gets the attention needed to make change. I know we have to overcorrect in order to net out some progress once things backslide. I just think these phrases that get an activist 105k likes on Twitter come at a huge cost-- these dramatic phrases are pushing away a pretty overwhelming majority of people... | asdf0909 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If passive euthanasia is an acceptable workaround to the immorality of active euthanasia then passive execution (starvation) is an acceptable workaround to the immorality of active execution (such as lethal injection)
There are some people who have an intrinsic objection to the act of euthanasia itself considerin... | What about the pain and suffering that you are causing? Assisted suicide probably reduces pain for the person. Starving a criminal causes much more than lethal injection.
And when you imprison someone you have a responsibility to take care of them. With doctors it isn't quite the same because the patient still has age... | This is a false equivalence.
Starvation as a capital punishment is borderline torturous. I hope I don't have to elaborate on why torture as a punitive device is wrong. Regardless, the person being punished is more of an object than a subject; they *undergo* the punishment.
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CMV: Adult content sites should be required to authenticate the age of their "customers" just like establishments that sell alcohol and tobacco.
It would decimate the industry and good riddance. The law should require them to create an access system that requires their full name and age be proved before someone can ac... | Why do you want to decimate the industry? What has it done to you? I am a sex worker. I have done nothing to you, and you want to fuck up my life, and for what? So a kid doesn't see a tit? Your requirements are bullshit and you know it. This isn't about them, this isn't about authentication. This is, as you yourself sa... | “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
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Currently they only need to say "If you are under 18 click away".
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cmv: We should bring most of the overseas troops home (US)
I believe that the US should bring most, not all, of the overseas military members home.
The US should bring home all troops with the exception of special operation forces (SOF), quick reaction forces (QRF) and the support staff to keep them combat effective... | >Now, the Middle East. This one might get me some hate, but this region is a lost cause.
What cause are you suggesting is lost?
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That the the US military will bring stability to the region and put an end to terrorism.
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On the middle east I disagree with you. Look at what happened... | The thing is that the US has already been following the strategy you suggest, it's just that it takes way more people to maintain capability than you think. As an example, you suggest the US should bring home the large numbers of troops that were deployed to Europe to deter the USSR, but that's already happened. At t... | iei1l8 | cmv: We should bring most of the overseas troops home (US) | I believe that the US should bring most, not all, of the overseas military members home.
The US should bring home all troops with the exception of special operation forces (SOF), quick reaction forces (QRF) and the support staff to keep them combat effective.
I’ll go region to region and state what I believe.
Eur... | Michael3227 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Popularizing (and perhaps enforcing) a 3 day (or 24 hours in total) work-week (or preferably even less) would only be beneficial to humanity as a whole.
This is one I've been thinking about for a bit. **Just to clarify things it isn't the 5-day work-week in particular that I've got a problem with. It's the idea o... | Not without more automation. Unemployment is way low... It is the opposite of a crisis right now.
If we only worked 3 days, we would have to hire and train skilled tradesmen *who just don't exist*, or people would go without working heat and air, and new construction would slow down.
3 days is too little for the near... | I don’t have much of an argument, but I’d be interested to hear more specifically your views on education.
Currently most mainstream schools run a 5 day education scheme. Going on your new 3 day (or so) scheme, there are 2 options that I can see:
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CMV: Popularizing (and perhaps enforcing) a 3 day (or 24 hours in total) work-week (or preferably even less) would only be beneficial to humanity as a whole.
This is one I've been thinking about for a bit. **Just to clarify things it isn't the 5-day work-week in particular that I've got a problem with. It's the idea o... | total economic output is what creates wealth and/or jobs. if everyone worked less, there would be, for lack of a better term "less money" out there. you would shrink the economy, which would shrink job pool and unemployment would go back to roughly where it is now, except the lack of economic output means we'd be livin... | I don’t have much of an argument, but I’d be interested to hear more specifically your views on education.
Currently most mainstream schools run a 5 day education scheme. Going on your new 3 day (or so) scheme, there are 2 options that I can see:
1) you make schools run 3 days. This will cause issue as the children ... | atuq7a | CMV: Popularizing (and perhaps enforcing) a 3 day (or 24 hours in total) work-week (or preferably even less) would only be beneficial to humanity as a whole. | This is one I've been thinking about for a bit. **Just to clarify things it isn't the 5-day work-week in particular that I've got a problem with. It's the idea of working more than 20-25 hours a week in total regardless of when it's actually worked.**
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CMV: Americans have been brainwashed into thinking working hard, long hours is admirable
My opinion relates largely to the corporate sector, as opposed to blue collar jobs. In my experience in white collar America, I have come across many, MANY average corporate drones (HR Specialists, Bookkeepers, Administrators, Mar... | I think the counterpoint that I'll bring up is if you compare American work culture to what you see in Japan or Korea. Japan has it the worst, where unpaid overtime is the norm and people work on average 80+ hour weeks, because not only do you have to do your work, but you are expected to go out drinking with your boss... | What is the difference between brainwashing and indoctrination?
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Damn good question. Educate me. | 8jr260 | CMV: Americans have been brainwashed into thinking working hard, long hours is admirable | My opinion relates largely to the corporate sector, as opposed to blue collar jobs. In my experience in white collar America, I have come across many, MANY average corporate drones (HR Specialists, Bookkeepers, Administrators, Marketing Professionals, etc) who will brag about:
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CMV: Jews have no legitimate claim to the land of modern day Israel. A two-state solution is already a major concession made by the Palestinians.
After reading about the Israel-Palestine conflict, I was shocked at how rarely people point out the flawed logic behind pro-Israel arguments. I do not believe Jews have a me... | >There are other regions of the world with unoccupied land,
Where?
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Normally if you drive a people from their land they disappear but the jews remembered and came back. If we were to grant that though, how long would the jews have... | 11jt0fl | CMV: Jews have no legitimate claim to the land of modern day Israel. A two-state solution is already a major concession made by the Palestinians. | After reading about the Israel-Palestine conflict, I was shocked at how rarely people point out the flawed logic behind pro-Israel arguments. I do not believe Jews have a meaningful claim to the land of Israel, and a "Jewish state" should have never been established in the region. I will be debunking common arguments f... | HuangHuaYu49 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Majority if liberal ideology is not natural but coded through the fiction they consume
A lot of people don’t realize it but most of 90s and early 2000s movies are completely coded with themes and subtle messaging that is designed to socially engineer the liberal morality
Whenever I talk to liberals about topics... | In the inverse, are you saying that bigotry and prejudice is the natural state of being?
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Prejudice yes, bigotry no. Everyone is reserved when meeting new people. It’s a natural evolutionary trait from our days as animals in the animal kingdom. Unfamiliar people present threats.
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Prejudice means pre judge, it... | Can you give a specific example please. You gave a vague one with the "I'm not a bigot/sexist" etc.
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Well an easy one is The Matrix. The belief was it was a cool movie about sci fi. Now we know the entire movie was coded for trans and lgbtq acceptance. Queer coding itself has been engrained in many tropes. Example... | 105wcg0 | CMV: Majority if liberal ideology is not natural but coded through the fiction they consume | A lot of people don’t realize it but most of 90s and early 2000s movies are completely coded with themes and subtle messaging that is designed to socially engineer the liberal morality
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A lot of people don’t realize it but most of 90s and early 2000s movies are completely coded with themes and subtle messaging that is designed to socially engineer the liberal morality
Whenever I talk to liberals about topics... | Love your neighbor as yourself comes from a much older fictional book
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Are you agreeing people can be socialized to believe in liberal ideology? And do you believe queer coding kid’s cartoons could lead to straight kids sometimes being confused and believing they could be gay when they are not?
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Do you realiz... | >A lot of people don’t realize it but most of 90s and early 2000s movies are completely coded with themes and subtle messaging that is designed to socially engineer the liberal morality
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A lot of people don’t realize it but most of 90s and early 2000s movies are completely coded with themes and subtle messaging that is designed to socially engineer the liberal morality
Whenever I talk to liberals about topics... | Love your neighbor as yourself comes from a much older fictional book
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Are you agreeing people can be socialized to believe in liberal ideology? And do you believe queer coding kid’s cartoons could lead to straight kids sometimes being confused and believing they could be gay when they are not?
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Do you realiz... | Can you give a specific example please. You gave a vague one with the "I'm not a bigot/sexist" etc.
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Well an easy one is The Matrix. The belief was it was a cool movie about sci fi. Now we know the entire movie was coded for trans and lgbtq acceptance. Queer coding itself has been engrained in many tropes. Example... | 105wcg0 | CMV: Majority if liberal ideology is not natural but coded through the fiction they consume | A lot of people don’t realize it but most of 90s and early 2000s movies are completely coded with themes and subtle messaging that is designed to socially engineer the liberal morality
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A lot of people don’t realize it but most of 90s and early 2000s movies are completely coded with themes and subtle messaging that is designed to socially engineer the liberal morality
Whenever I talk to liberals about topics... | > Morality in fiction does not transfer out of port states like New York and California. States that require high turnover rate of residents in order to function.
This doesn't really make any sense, and it doesn't match the actual statistics. The average homeowner tenure in the US is 13.2 years, but in large metro are... | >A lot of people don’t realize it but most of 90s and early 2000s movies are completely coded with themes and subtle messaging that is designed to socially engineer the liberal morality
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CMV: The only way that JD Vance can win the Republican nomination for the 2028 presidential election is if Trump himself publicly announces he won't run.
JD Vance has chosen to lean in and announce himself as the putative next-term Republican candidate for 2028, with [Erika Kirk recently publicly supporting him](http... | Trump has already said he’s not running again. His chief of staff also confirmed he said he’s not running again. Trump is quiet about the “upcoming” election because he’s worried about the midterms, the actual upcoming election. Also traditionally the sitting president doesn’t endorse anyone until after the primary but... | Trump isn’t going to run at this point it’s far more of a leftist boogeyman than a right wing actionable idea.
Full stop.
I’ve talked to dozens of conservatives about this that range all the way from center right to full blown far right and not a single one of them believes Trump will run, and not a single one of th... | 1ptexkx | CMV: The only way that JD Vance can win the Republican nomination for the 2028 presidential election is if Trump himself publicly announces he won't run. | JD Vance has chosen to lean in and announce himself as the putative next-term Republican candidate for 2028, with [Erika Kirk recently publicly supporting him](https://radio.foxnews.com/2025/12/22/erika-kirk-endorses-j-d-vance-for-2028/) during the Turning Point conference.
As per a rough straw poll during that same... | ansyhrrian | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: I can't see any Furry Art (but just the art in specific)
# (Words in Parentheses will be used to give contexts)
I think back in the year in early 2020 I did, *somehow*, stumbled across a person who was doing their furry fursona and it was a speed-art video (but in fact, the video wasn't mentioning anything about... | Do you have any reason why you 'cringe' at furry art? What is it do you find embarrassing?
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In general, it has some types of art styles at it but all of them essentially has its core, and the core of it (which the the fursona) is what is actually triggering me (which I am gonna add the reasoning after sending this... | It is pornography. There is no reason for you to change your mind and start to like it. But it seems like you want to convince yourself to like it. If that is the case then go right ahead, but keep it to yourself
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this is a very weird and untrue statement. OP isnt talking about looking at furry PORNOGRAPHY. just a... | 16n2r2y | CMV: I can't see any Furry Art (but just the art in specific) | # (Words in Parentheses will be used to give contexts)
I think back in the year in early 2020 I did, *somehow*, stumbled across a person who was doing their furry fursona and it was a speed-art video (but in fact, the video wasn't mentioning anything about the term or from the community itself); and I just did not cri... | NicDima | 5 | 3 | [
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CMV: Marijuana is the most dangerous and harmful drug in the world, posing more significant harm to society than any other drug.
I believe that marijuana is the most dangerous drug in the world and harms society more than any other drug. Yes, that includes drugs such as heroin, methamphetamine, crack cocaine and fenta... | Even if you are 100% accurate as to everything you said (which I find unlikely), marijuana would still be significantly better than alcohol, who has all the same problems as you claim marijuana has while also having a lot more problems. Plus, personally, I'd rather someone be slightly stupider then dead, so it's hard t... | Absolute insanity. Please do your research. If cannabis was only discovered today in some remote jungle, it would be labelled a miracle drug.
And the fictitious and ignorant factors that you wrote, if there is a atom of truth in them, can be explained that cannabis usage is a symptom of addictive personalities or unde... | 11jeyvz | CMV: Marijuana is the most dangerous and harmful drug in the world, posing more significant harm to society than any other drug. | I believe that marijuana is the most dangerous drug in the world and harms society more than any other drug. Yes, that includes drugs such as heroin, methamphetamine, crack cocaine and fentanyl.
While I am aware of the argument that many of these other drugs have caused many deaths yet no deaths have been "directly at... | lomeindev | 11 | 11 | [
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CMV:Dilemma of Secular morality? How to reconcile that incest is immoral and homosexuality is not.
I am Athiest and I am pro-gay marriage. I am Ex muslim. I was having discussion with a Muslim friend on Morality without God and Homosexuality. He said to me that if consent is the thing that really matters and child mar... | I mean you're having that backwards. Things are problematic if they are in violation with other people's fundamental human rights, such as not wanting to be harmed or to be able to live your own sexuality unless the other person doesn't or cannot consent and stuff like that.
If people do freaky, kinky or otherwise stu... | If the relatives in question lived together as children and there was a substantial age gap, one could argue that grooming took place. Though that's not applicable all the time. I don't know about most families, but I've probably spent less than 48 hours total with any of my first cousins, and never so much as met a se... | o0z8az | CMV:Dilemma of Secular morality? How to reconcile that incest is immoral and homosexuality is not. | I am Athiest and I am pro-gay marriage. I am Ex muslim. I was having discussion with a Muslim friend on Morality without God and Homosexuality. He said to me that if consent is the thing that really matters and child marriage is wrong because child cannot give consent then how you will justify that insect is wrong if t... | LivingInMyBubble1999 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The current AI maximization modeled is a threat to human existence.
At its core, most current AI models (like ChatGPT or Grok) are optimized for a single primary goal: maximization of engagement. This means the AI predicts user behavior, compares outcomes to expectations and adjusts to achieve more of something. ... | This is mostly incorrect. It conflates recommender systems (like YouTube homepage feed), which are often trained with engagement as a primary objective, with generative AI tools, which typically are not. Generative AI models like ChatGPT are pretrained to maximize the likelihood of a large text corpus (nothing about en... | It doesn't want any of these things. The models are made to be used in MANY applications. Training your model to act only like a GPT assistant is a waste of money since that can be done afterward with system prompts, fine tuning, etc.
Simply tell chatgpt you ALWAYS want 5 words responses and it's likely going to do th... | 1pt8y8x | CMV: The current AI maximization modeled is a threat to human existence. | At its core, most current AI models (like ChatGPT or Grok) are optimized for a single primary goal: maximization of engagement. This means the AI predicts user behavior, compares outcomes to expectations and adjusts to achieve more of something. AI wants longer conversations and deeper interactions. AI learns from vast... | John_Doe_5000 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Trump Administration is trying to start a race war.
I am utterly convinced that the reason no major reforms or action has been undertaken within the American police force is that it's not in the Trump administration's best interests to do so.
My feeling is that the current strategy being employed is to simpl... | What could Trump actually do?
Policing is a state and local issue - not a federal one. Trump doesn't have power over the states here. That is why Obama didn't do anything either.
The problems you have center really on mostly the Democratic party and their lack of actions at the local levels in major urban cities. The... | Think you nailed it in your post. Trumps antics are much more related to the upcoming election, both in suppression and encouraging of voters.
As to police reform, much ado is being made about defunding and abolishing the police that frankly isn’t up to Trump but rather state and local governments. On top of that, muc... | hmsyyh | CMV: The Trump Administration is trying to start a race war. | I am utterly convinced that the reason no major reforms or action has been undertaken within the American police force is that it's not in the Trump administration's best interests to do so.
My feeling is that the current strategy being employed is to simply **allow** public unrest to grow until it becomes severe enou... | Mort432 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is literally no good reason the US should substantially increase troops in the Arctic
Right now Russia is investing more in the Arctic and China is following their lead, which was led to many ppl in the US saying that we should also increase our military presence to maintain our lead as the global power
Bu... | Why are Russia and China investing in the Arctic if there are no tangible economic benefits, it is costly, and it will bother everyone else?
Do they see something you don't? Does the US government?
What us the US government proposing we do with *checks post* 858 *billion* or nearly a trillion dollars in the Arctic? I... | Look at it this way.
The arctic is a very remote and inhospitable place, because of this there isn’t much of a presence from the big 3. There isn’t much of a presence because it wasn’t worth the effort to configure supply lines in such awful areas.
Now what could this mean? The arctic is hardly a strategic location ... | 16na9hq | CMV: There is literally no good reason the US should substantially increase troops in the Arctic | Right now Russia is investing more in the Arctic and China is following their lead, which was led to many ppl in the US saying that we should also increase our military presence to maintain our lead as the global power
But I can’t see why it’d be worth it for these reasons:
1. It’s very costly. We’re going to have to ... | Dolphinheart5 | 6 | 6 | [
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CMV: inheritance tax should be as high as possible, including assets and capital. (this is otherwise known as the death tax). I would say it should be 100% on everything over £10,000 (would need to adjust with inflation).
This is a fairly simple one to explain I think but still requires a few caveats.
In the ideal, ... | >Inheriting money from your parents is a total freebie, you have done nothing to earn that money.
You existed.
Working hard for your kids is a very valuable incentive. Many people absolutely break their necks (in a figurative sense) just for their kids to have a better life than they did. Removing incentives from an... | I’m assuming you include property in your inheritance tax?
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Yes
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Thank you for clarifying.
Following your idea, it would destroy all family owned farms and businesses. You say that people receiving inheritance haven’t worked for it. But how would that work with someone who worked on their family’s farm or i... | 16nl411 | CMV: inheritance tax should be as high as possible, including assets and capital. (this is otherwise known as the death tax). I would say it should be 100% on everything over £10,000 (would need to adjust with inflation). | This is a fairly simple one to explain I think but still requires a few caveats.
In the ideal, inheritance tax would be high enough to take the vast majority of a persons wealth off them after death, whilst still allowing enough wiggle room to pass on things of genuine meaning to the family (clothes, jewelry, dads lu... | MosDuff3 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: sleeping on the floor is the best, mattresses are just a marketing trick
The best mattresses, we are told, as firm ones, the firmer, the better. They cost a lot of money, require regular turning, and need changing after about 10 years. That last one is great for the mattress industry! Looking around, I have found... | Mattress dampen vibration from the floor, not by that much but it's totally better than on the bare floor. Also, mattress can help with your sleep if you sleep sideways.
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vibration from the floor? what's that? I don't feel any vibration from the floor?
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Then you must not live near a major road or railroad. | >As long as I lift the bedding during the day, to prevent damp and mould - that's all I need.
The easiest way to lift up the bedding during the day is to have it be on a small table or frame with posts on the corners, so that it is always off the floor.
If you are sleeping on an elevated mat with cushions and a duve... | idu2cj | CMV: sleeping on the floor is the best, mattresses are just a marketing trick | The best mattresses, we are told, as firm ones, the firmer, the better. They cost a lot of money, require regular turning, and need changing after about 10 years. That last one is great for the mattress industry! Looking around, I have found that I have a firm surface available free of charge: my floor. I can use as ma... | whorulesyourlife | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: femboy privilege is real
I know this is a controversial take but please hear me out
I hear alot of femme men say they get treated worse now but honestly I feel like I get treated way better now that I present femme. Here’s how:
1) people (usually men) smile at me a lot more, Before people would ignore me in the... | This is pretty much entirely reliant on where you live and you need to look really well. Homo/transphobes might just think you're a woman.
It's pretty much just beauty privilege except worse.
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Most strangers assume I’m a cis woman, yeah
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Well then you aren't really experiencing how people treat effeminate... | That's because everyone is petrified of getting cancelled by the woke mob.
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straight guys catcall femboys because otherwise the woke mob will cancel them? rather than because they think they're catcalling a woman? lol
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They're trying to be inclusive. | 16ng7a7 | CMV: femboy privilege is real | I know this is a controversial take but please hear me out
I hear alot of femme men say they get treated worse now but honestly I feel like I get treated way better now that I present femme. Here’s how:
1) people (usually men) smile at me a lot more, Before people would ignore me in the streets but now I walk down th... | miriam__bergman | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Penalizing an athlete for their natural-born advantages is highly unjust.
I made the title pretty broad, but I am specifically referring to the cases where namibian athletes were [banned](https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/06/us/black-women-athletes-treatment-olympics-spt/index.html) from certain races because their nat... | Unfortunately you have to set a limit, especially with women. It's nothing personal, they simply went over that limit
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Can I hear your reasoning as to why you have to set a limit?
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The same reason why male and female compete in two different classes. Males have more strenght and power thanks to testosterone. ... | Well, it's just fake news.
It has nothing to do with them being black. It has to do with their testosterone level being too high.
As far as the actual question, which is if women with testosterone levels that high should be allowed to compete in that competition, well, I believe they should, if that's how high thei... | oo4v9e | CMV: Penalizing an athlete for their natural-born advantages is highly unjust. | I made the title pretty broad, but I am specifically referring to the cases where namibian athletes were [banned](https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/06/us/black-women-athletes-treatment-olympics-spt/index.html) from certain races because their naturally high testosterone levels.
I've been mulling it over in my mind, but I j... | RedFanKr | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Uber and Lyft drivers are not employees
I don't really understand the argument that these workers are employees. They:
1. Decide their own hours
2. Work for any length of time they want
3. Decide their location/where they will drive
4. Use their own equipment
5. Provide their own insurance
6. Can refuse service ... | If they aren't employees then what are they?
Uber and Lyft have argued they're private contractors, but they fail most of the points of qualifying as a private contractor. For instance, they aren't involved in a different line of work from the company contracting them and they're not operating their own business.
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2. Work for any length of time they want
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I don't really understand the argument that these workers are employees. They:
1. Decide their own hours
2. Work for any length of time they want
3. Decide their location/where they will drive
4. Use their own equipment
5. Provide their own insurance
6. Can refuse service ... | According to the ABC test:
>in order for a hiring entity to legally classify a worker as an independent contractor, it must prove (A) the worker is free from the control and direction of the hiring entity, (B) performs work outside the scope of the entity’s business and (C) is regularly engaged in an “independently e... | Half the stuff there doesn't have much to do with being an employee or not, and the rest are things that the drivers want to change by becoming employees, so they're not exactly good critiques of that position
>I don't really understand the argument that these workers are employees.
The argument isn't really that the... | idf5g9 | CMV: Uber and Lyft drivers are not employees | I don't really understand the argument that these workers are employees. They:
1. Decide their own hours
2. Work for any length of time they want
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CMV: If a democratic government makes a mistake, its voters hold some of the blame
A democratic government represents the will of its people. Whenever you make a choice, it comes with some degree of responsibility for the outcome. If the people of a nation are given the choice over who serves in their government, vote... | If the party announces in its electoral manifesto that they want to partake in the invasion of Iraq, then the people would hold some of the responsibility for that.
But, for instance, the UK's Labour Party (led by Tony Blair) did not have an official policy of invading Iraq when they were elected (in 1997 or 2001)
So... | The actual point of MAGA and the Paris Climate agreement is 1) that they LARP as it being some kind of Chinese conspiracy and 2) they literally don't give a shit.
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In either case, the Trump voters carry some degree of blame for 1) voting for someone based on a debunked conspiracy theory about the accords or 2) no... | 11ipysw | CMV: If a democratic government makes a mistake, its voters hold some of the blame | A democratic government represents the will of its people. Whenever you make a choice, it comes with some degree of responsibility for the outcome. If the people of a nation are given the choice over who serves in their government, voters have some degree of responsibility for the actions of the government they chose. ... | HuangHuaYu49 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We should be happy about talented actors and musicians making millions of dollars. If we insist on being unhappy with something having to do with their success, then we should be unhappy with the people making even more off of their talent.
When I think of the type of life I’d like to live, it would be one where ... | Who is angry that they’re making millions? I’m upset they don’t have to pair their fair share of taxes on those millions but I don’t blame them for that.
I think you are conflating anger about an unjust system and anger about individuals.
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I don’t have a link for you, but have you really never heard people say t... | You can admire their talent and still think the pay scale is warped. Their millions aren’t only “reward for art” but the product of market power, PR, and winner take all dynamics that funnel revenue away from crews and fans. The issue isn’t envy, it’s inequality and who captures the value.
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Beyond just the fact th... | 1pt607q | CMV: We should be happy about talented actors and musicians making millions of dollars. If we insist on being unhappy with something having to do with their success, then we should be unhappy with the people making even more off of their talent. | When I think of the type of life I’d like to live, it would be one where I get paid well and yeah maybe even a little celebrated for something creative that I’m very good at. When I see great actors and musicians making a ton of money, this doesn’t bother me at all, because I’m happy for them that they get to live a li... | CalligrapherTrick182 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Upper elementary grades after third grade (4th-6th) should be departmentalized (taught by different teachers for their respective subjects) like middle and high school are
Most elementary schools that have up to grade 5 or 6 are self contained meaning they are taught by one teacher instructing all the subjects wi... | There are two major aspects to whether a single teacher or multiple teachers is better. One you've identified: how complex the material is. The other you've ignored: how important the relational aspect of teaching is.
The importance of the relational aspect is *critical* in thinking about this subject. It's the only ... | [removed]
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What about fourth graders? You think they're ready for this?
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CMV: If a person does not believe that racism is responsible for disparate racial outcomes, that person harbors racist views.
Apologies for the click-bait headline but it was the most succinct title I could think of.
​
It's very well established that there are statistically significant differences in outcomes... | > The disadvantaged race is in some way inferior to the non-disadvantaged race... [this is inherently racist]
That depends on two things.
First, let's say that there are group level differences that actually exist that impact outcomes. Say... black americans are on average taller than any other racial group, even tho... | Economic status is a much larger component, and what there is some ethnic influence to that it is not a major component of it anymore. A poor white person is at the exact same situation as a black person of equal economic standing. They face the same issue with police, same issues with drugs, same issues with being abl... | bbnuhj | CMV: If a person does not believe that racism is responsible for disparate racial outcomes, that person harbors racist views. | Apologies for the click-bait headline but it was the most succinct title I could think of.
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It's very well established that there are statistically significant differences in outcomes (across a lot a areas) between different races. For the sake of this conversation, I'd like for us to accept that as a premis... | BuckleUpItsThe | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If transgender people should be allowed to determine their gender identity based on what gender they feel they are, people should be able to do the same with their age or really any other characteristics.
I recently came across an article about a man who is suing to be able to change his age because he says he lo... | Transgender people are not trying to change their karyotype. People who are trans are well aware of what their genetic makeup is, and are not confused about what their genitals are. Rather, transgender people seek to transition to a different \*gender\*, and sex reassignment surgery can be an important part of that p... | The problem with this argument is that you are framing transgender as an arbitrary and capricious choice someone is making, and so therefore other arbitrary and capricious choices should be seen as equally valid. This is not so.
Transgender is well documented and fairly well understood, and has a backing in medical s... | 9vefde | CMV: If transgender people should be allowed to determine their gender identity based on what gender they feel they are, people should be able to do the same with their age or really any other characteristics. | I recently came across an article about a man who is suing to be able to change his age because he says he looks and feels younger than his biological age. He also makes the point that his doctor told him he had the health of a much younger man. It got me thinking that if people feel transgender people can determine th... | antidentitescum | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If transgender people should be allowed to determine their gender identity based on what gender they feel they are, people should be able to do the same with their age or really any other characteristics.
I recently came across an article about a man who is suing to be able to change his age because he says he lo... | Transgender people are not trying to change their karyotype. People who are trans are well aware of what their genetic makeup is, and are not confused about what their genitals are. Rather, transgender people seek to transition to a different \*gender\*, and sex reassignment surgery can be an important part of that p... | The problem with this argument is that you are framing transgender as an arbitrary and capricious choice someone is making, and so therefore other arbitrary and capricious choices should be seen as equally valid. This is not so.
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CMV: Political radicalization has irreparably damaged our society and the capability of those to get along and people need to stop pretending like its a good thing
Let me preface by saying i'm not a centrist (my actual political views aren't particularly relevant but i just want to avoid the smug "wow i bet you think ... | We literally got into a civil war. We used to blacklist and jail people with dissenting opinions, assuming we didnt lynch them.
Being called a bad name over the internet is not unprecedented political division.
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unprecedented as in the fact that societally people matured to a level above what it currently is now
... | >"The republicans want me and those like me dead and buried" or "the damn liberals want my children castrated!"
Do you think the people saying these things are equaly right?
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This is absolutely the best point here. One side is actually irredeemably evil.
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[deleted] | 13d50xn | CMV: Political radicalization has irreparably damaged our society and the capability of those to get along and people need to stop pretending like its a good thing | Let me preface by saying i'm not a centrist (my actual political views aren't particularly relevant but i just want to avoid the smug "wow i bet you think your such an enlightened centrist" comments, i have left leaning views on some things and right leaning views on others)
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CMV: Political radicalization has irreparably damaged our society and the capability of those to get along and people need to stop pretending like its a good thing
Let me preface by saying i'm not a centrist (my actual political views aren't particularly relevant but i just want to avoid the smug "wow i bet you think ... | >"The republicans want me and those like me dead and buried" or "the damn liberals want my children castrated!"
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obviously nothing is ever equally correct one will always be slightly more founded doesn't mean 1 is inarguable fact and the other is basel... | >Let me preface by saying i'm not a centrist (my actual political views aren't particularly relevant but i just want to avoid the smug "wow i bet you think your such an enlightened centrist" comments, i have left leaning views on some things and right leaning views on others)
You don't want people to call you an enlig... | 13d50xn | CMV: Political radicalization has irreparably damaged our society and the capability of those to get along and people need to stop pretending like its a good thing | Let me preface by saying i'm not a centrist (my actual political views aren't particularly relevant but i just want to avoid the smug "wow i bet you think your such an enlightened centrist" comments, i have left leaning views on some things and right leaning views on others)
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CMV: Journalists are to blame for the backlash against wokeness in video games.
Except for a small minority of consumers nobody really cares about how diverse the characters in a videogame are. Let's be real now.
Most recent example being Rockstar making a female protagonist for GTA 6. It's hard for me to believe peo... | So a subset of gamers, maybe even a small minority that nobody really cares about, gets upset about wokeness in video games and creates a harassment campaign against women working in video game spaces.
Journalists report on this harassment campaign.
And you're arguing that because of journalists reporting on this har... | Anyone who thinks GTA 6 having a female lead is woke has never played GTA. There are plenty of minority badass characters in each game.
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The journalists and developers think that. Most gamers are simply telling them to shut up.
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What a convincing counter argument: here are theories and news about the hottest ... | wexxv5 | CMV: Journalists are to blame for the backlash against wokeness in video games. | Except for a small minority of consumers nobody really cares about how diverse the characters in a videogame are. Let's be real now.
Most recent example being Rockstar making a female protagonist for GTA 6. It's hard for me to believe people would be upset with that. They mostly think it's annoying how it's paraded as... | Ragabadoodaa | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Journalists are to blame for the backlash against wokeness in video games.
Except for a small minority of consumers nobody really cares about how diverse the characters in a videogame are. Let's be real now.
Most recent example being Rockstar making a female protagonist for GTA 6. It's hard for me to believe peo... | Anyone who thinks GTA 6 having a female lead is woke has never played GTA. There are plenty of minority badass characters in each game.
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The journalists and developers think that. Most gamers are simply telling them to shut up.
---
What a convincing counter argument: here are theories and news about the hottest ... | So a subset of gamers, maybe even a small minority that nobody really cares about, gets upset about wokeness in video games and creates a harassment campaign against women working in video game spaces.
Journalists report on this harassment campaign.
And you're arguing that because of journalists reporting on this har... | wexxv5 | CMV: Journalists are to blame for the backlash against wokeness in video games. | Except for a small minority of consumers nobody really cares about how diverse the characters in a videogame are. Let's be real now.
Most recent example being Rockstar making a female protagonist for GTA 6. It's hard for me to believe people would be upset with that. They mostly think it's annoying how it's paraded as... | Ragabadoodaa | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: it is best to lose your virginity at an early age
I'm a 25 year old virgin male (not by choice) and I believe it's best to lose your virginity early. I think I'd say as early as possible under the conditions that you find someone your own age, and both of you do it out of sexual desire, not mere curiosity or soci... | Lack of success from age 12, Seriously? Having more sex partners doesn't mean someone is more attractive compared to someone who has had one.
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Why wouldn't having more sex partners mean that?
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Because so much impacts how many people you have sex with. You have to find someone you’re attracted to as well, you... | This seems like some I’m 14-year-old and this is deep. Why do you place so much value in sex? It seems you just have more of an unhealthy relationship with your own sexuality and kind of are pushing it out to everybody else.
Having a low body count shouldn’t exemplify not being attractive or whatever else you said. No... | knfig7 | CMV: it is best to lose your virginity at an early age | I'm a 25 year old virgin male (not by choice) and I believe it's best to lose your virginity early. I think I'd say as early as possible under the conditions that you find someone your own age, and both of you do it out of sexual desire, not mere curiosity or social pressures, and that you perform proper safe sex.
Thi... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: it is best to lose your virginity at an early age
I'm a 25 year old virgin male (not by choice) and I believe it's best to lose your virginity early. I think I'd say as early as possible under the conditions that you find someone your own age, and both of you do it out of sexual desire, not mere curiosity or soci... | This seems like some I’m 14-year-old and this is deep. Why do you place so much value in sex? It seems you just have more of an unhealthy relationship with your own sexuality and kind of are pushing it out to everybody else.
Having a low body count shouldn’t exemplify not being attractive or whatever else you said. No... | Lack of success from age 12, Seriously? Having more sex partners doesn't mean someone is more attractive compared to someone who has had one.
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Why wouldn't having more sex partners mean that?
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Because when you're drunk and horny standards drop ever heard the term beer goggles? If someone has been in a stable... | knfig7 | CMV: it is best to lose your virginity at an early age | I'm a 25 year old virgin male (not by choice) and I believe it's best to lose your virginity early. I think I'd say as early as possible under the conditions that you find someone your own age, and both of you do it out of sexual desire, not mere curiosity or social pressures, and that you perform proper safe sex.
Thi... | [deleted] | 5 | 5 | [
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"text": "Lack of success from age 12, Seriously? Having more sex partners doesn't mean someone is more attractive compared to someone who has had one.",
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CMV: it is best to lose your virginity at an early age
I'm a 25 year old virgin male (not by choice) and I believe it's best to lose your virginity early. I think I'd say as early as possible under the conditions that you find someone your own age, and both of you do it out of sexual desire, not mere curiosity or soci... | How about this... it’s best to lose your virginity **when you are ready**, not when someone tells you to.
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If people did that then everyone would be losing it at 25 and miserable that their dicks don't work anymore
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You assume everyone in your audience is a man.
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Okay, I think if everyone waited until th... | Lack of success from age 12, Seriously? Having more sex partners doesn't mean someone is more attractive compared to someone who has had one.
---
Why wouldn't having more sex partners mean that?
---
Because so much impacts how many people you have sex with. You have to find someone you’re attracted to as well, you... | knfig7 | CMV: it is best to lose your virginity at an early age | I'm a 25 year old virgin male (not by choice) and I believe it's best to lose your virginity early. I think I'd say as early as possible under the conditions that you find someone your own age, and both of you do it out of sexual desire, not mere curiosity or social pressures, and that you perform proper safe sex.
Thi... | [deleted] | 5 | 5 | [
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"text": "How about this... it’s best to lose your virginity **when you are ready**, not when someone tells you to.",
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"text": "If peo... | [
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CMV: Not quoting your sources in an article generating revenues should be illegal.
EDIT : It's my first time on CMV and I did not expect that post to gain so much traction ! It's very hard for me to stay engaged in so many conversations, so I'll probaby read and answer only if I really want to.
I've had interesting d... | Such a law would be a blatant violation of the first amendment to the constitution. Secrecy of source is crucial for reporting on sensitive or dangerous situations to keep informants safe. Shoddy journalism is an unfortunate but acceptable cost of that freedom.
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"According to a source who wishes to remain anonymou... | There are Minecraft blogs which run ads, which means they make money. People have written tutorials on how to build certain stuff and how the mechanics of the game work. Do you really want to make that illegal without sources? It's just some gamers writing tutorials one a game they love and have learned enough about to... | fyg0t7 | CMV: Not quoting your sources in an article generating revenues should be illegal. | EDIT : It's my first time on CMV and I did not expect that post to gain so much traction ! It's very hard for me to stay engaged in so many conversations, so I'll probaby read and answer only if I really want to.
I've had interesting discussions so far, and my view has indeed changed. Thank you !
Disclaimer : english... | Thorn782 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: I would go through the teleporter.
**Edit: Damn, nobody seems to quite be on my side lol. I promise I'm not trying to be dense... I was sure somebody would either see this the way I do, or provide a counter argument that seemed compelling to me. After 100 comments, does it seem like we're just spinning our wh... | Assuming future technology - If you had a wife, and she was dieing, would you clone her?
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If you clone her while she's dying, the clone will also be dying. | We all certainly have ethical obligations to other people (this is the whole concept of morality). But I don't think our ethical responsibilities include a willingness to die for the sake of fuel efficiency.
And can you explain more why the idea of you dying doesn't dissuade you? You seem to believe that, from your p... | 8ymwrm | CMV: I would go through the teleporter. | **Edit: Damn, nobody seems to quite be on my side lol. I promise I'm not trying to be dense... I was sure somebody would either see this the way I do, or provide a counter argument that seemed compelling to me. After 100 comments, does it seem like we're just spinning our wheels? I'm still down to converse, but I'... | Leusid | 2 | 2 | [
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