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RAID mirrors are incredibly useful tools when the expectations and management are properly handled, but they are not a backup and don?t replace the need for a separate backup. |
RAID mirrors are a downtime mitigation tool. They allow the computer to continue operating in the event a single disk fails (assuming RAID 1, there are multi-mirror RAID setups as well) and are based on it being statistically unlikely that all disks in the array fail simultaneously. This gives the maintainer time to swap out the bad disk and allow the array to re-silver, all while keeping the system online in most cases. It isn?t uncommon to treat a raid array as a ?built-in backup?, but that?s not the true purpose of it. |
For instance, having a RAID mirror array will fail if there aren?t policies requiring regular checks on the status of the array or automated monitoring and alert tasks to notify the maintainer of a disk problem. It will also fail if nothing is done about any signs of failure or alerts. It will also not save you if the controller (software or hardware) malfunctions or fails and starts writing corrupted data to both mirrors, or if something in an operating system or on the data bus goes screwy and causes data streams to be garbled before or during transmission. Bad data into the array, bad array. You still need a full backup solution, or at least a backup solution of critical data, like an automated incremental backup solution or a regular disk clone solution like you mention in your post. |
So. RAID mirror - minimize downtime if managed properly, not a backup. |
Backups allow for recovery when, not if, a failure and downtime occurs. Backups should be segregated copies of data ideally held somewhere other than on the system being backed up. |
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> On Feb 9, 2023, at 7:14 AM, Chang, Long <lvchang at Central.UH.EDU> wrote: |
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> Yesterday we experienced a HDD failure for our AFM. This event should have been prevented by the Raid Mirror with 2 HDD. Our setup where we just have a single working drive and a spare backup clone has been more successful. We are planning to move away from Raid Mirror. Anyone has expertise/experience here they can share? |
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> Thanks, |
> Long Chang |
> Technical Director |
> UH Nanofabrication Facility |
> Houston, TX |
> lvchang at central.uh.edu |
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From michael.martin at louisville.edu Thu Feb 9 12:52:13 2023 |
From: michael.martin at louisville.edu (Martin, Michael) |
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 17:52:13 +0000 |
Subject: [labnetwork] HDD Best Practice |
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Hi Long, |
Yes, we use the drive clone method instead of RAID. We clone the drive and then put the clone in the computers as sometimes there are clone glitches. |
Regards, |
Michael |
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Hi All, |
Yesterday we experienced a HDD failure for our AFM. This event should have been prevented by the Raid Mirror with 2 HDD. Our setup where we just have a single working drive and a spare backup clone has been more successful. We are planning to move away from Raid Mirror. Anyone has expertise/experience here they can share? |
Thanks, |
Long Chang |
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UH Nanofabrication Facility |
Houston, TX |
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From sieb at 4dlabs.ca Thu Feb 9 12:57:57 2023 |
From: sieb at 4dlabs.ca (Nathanael Sieb) |
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 09:57:57 -0800 |
Subject: [labnetwork] HDD Best Practice |
In-Reply-To: <590390B9-BEB6-4FB7-AA4F-EC7FE04A1270@central.uh.edu> |
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Hi Long, |
We use Macrium Reflect to save an image of our drives on an external |
server.? That way when a hard-drive dies, we just need to restore the |
image.? We set it on a schedule for some systems where frequent backups |
are useful.? Other systems are a single backup and then we disconnect |
the tool from the network connection.? It has saved us a lot of times. |
Thanks, |
Nathanael |
On 2023-02-09 7:14 a.m., Chang, Long wrote: |
> Hi All, |
> |
> Yesterday we experienced a HDD failure for our AFM. This event should have been prevented by the Raid Mirror with 2 HDD. Our setup where we just have a single working drive and a spare backup clone has been more successful. We are planning to move away from Raid Mirror. Anyone has expertise/experience here they can share? |
> |
> Thanks, |
> Long Chang |
> Technical Director |
> UH Nanofabrication Facility |
> Houston, TX |
> lvchang at central.uh.edu |
> |
> |
> |
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