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programmingcirclejerk | Sticker704 | jgpxpnv | <|sols|><|sot|>Rust subreddits must "formally adopt and enforce a robust Code of Conduct"<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/blyxyas/no-rust-policy-change<|eol|><|sor|>You cannot use "the unique visual style of their website" (They trademarked a very basic website design).<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 42 |
programmingcirclejerk | ActivePea6 | jgpzbuf | <|sols|><|sot|>Rust subreddits must "formally adopt and enforce a robust Code of Conduct"<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/blyxyas/no-rust-policy-change<|eol|><|sor|>Discord mod: puts rainbow colors on the Rust logo for Pride Month
Amazon Assassination Fulfillment Associate: <|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 40 |
programmingcirclejerk | ben_bliksem | jgpfjsy | <|sols|><|sot|>Rust subreddits must "formally adopt and enforce a robust Code of Conduct"<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/blyxyas/no-rust-policy-change<|eol|><|soopr|>Also: "no memes in #general"<|eoopr|><|sor|>_Rust_ is serious business.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 37 |
programmingcirclejerk | Evinceo | jgpn4dg | <|sols|><|sot|>Rust subreddits must "formally adopt and enforce a robust Code of Conduct"<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/blyxyas/no-rust-policy-change<|eol|><|sor|>Telling rustacians they can't use Rust to advertise their project: <Hieronymus Bosch hell.jpg><|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 36 |
programmingcirclejerk | runner7mi | jgq8pqi | <|sols|><|sot|>Rust subreddits must "formally adopt and enforce a robust Code of Conduct"<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/blyxyas/no-rust-policy-change<|eol|><|sor|>can i get a list of which Oracle employees got laid off and then got into the Rust Foundation? because this stinks a lot like Oracle<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 35 |
programmingcirclejerk | v_maria | jgpktbo | <|sols|><|sot|>Rust subreddits must "formally adopt and enforce a robust Code of Conduct"<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/blyxyas/no-rust-policy-change<|eol|><|sor|>this is so funny
what a glorious masterclass of Ecocide 101
only wish they're actually hilariously stupid enough to follow through with this, cuz maybe it'll finally stop all the endless cum-whining about "Rust" in my feeds<|eor|><|sor|>maybe they got sick of it themselves too, hence introduced these based rules<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 30 |
programmingcirclejerk | pandakekok9 | jgovhr4 | <|sols|><|sot|>Rust subreddits must "formally adopt and enforce a robust Code of Conduct"<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/blyxyas/no-rust-policy-change<|eol|><|sor|>r/programmingsocialjerk<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 29 |
programmingcirclejerk | redgiftbox | jgojzjj | <|sols|><|sot|>Rust subreddits must "formally adopt and enforce a robust Code of Conduct"<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/blyxyas/no-rust-policy-change<|eol|><|sor|>This has to be a joke.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 27 |
programmingcirclejerk | Facts_About_Cats | jgoqaom | <|sols|><|sot|>Rust subreddits must "formally adopt and enforce a robust Code of Conduct"<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/blyxyas/no-rust-policy-change<|eol|><|soopr|>I'm surprised they don't make you follow a strict code of conduct when advertising for a Rust job opening.<|eoopr|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 27 |
programmingcirclejerk | Handsomefoxhf | jgqg0c0 | <|sols|><|sot|>Rust subreddits must "formally adopt and enforce a robust Code of Conduct"<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/blyxyas/no-rust-policy-change<|eol|><|sor|>can i get a list of which Oracle employees got laid off and then got into the Rust Foundation? because this stinks a lot like Oracle<|eor|><|sor|>I don't know if they can be compared even, Oracle is at least a company with mature people, and Rust Foundation seems to be run by a 17 year old Twitter user<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 27 |
programmingcirclejerk | -fno-stack-protector | jgq6bw6 | <|sols|><|sot|>Rust subreddits must "formally adopt and enforce a robust Code of Conduct"<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/blyxyas/no-rust-policy-change<|eol|><|sor|>> You can say that you use / like the Rust software, participate in the Rust community, or that you wrote a manual describing how to develop software using Rust.
oh thank god i can express my undying love for some language
if there's any hiring managers reading this, please hire me i'll work for free, tip you on payday and suck your dick too
proud to be a ~~rust~~ rs developer<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 24 |
programmingcirclejerk | Spfifle | jgrq4kq | <|sols|><|sot|>Rust subreddits must "formally adopt and enforce a robust Code of Conduct"<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/blyxyas/no-rust-policy-change<|eol|><|sor|>You cannot use "the unique visual style of their website" (They trademarked a very basic website design).<|eor|><|sor|>Does somebody know what their visual style even means? Having black text on a white background?<|eor|><|sor|>I think what they're trying to say is "don't impersonate our website", but they've done the typical lawyer thing of writing something super broad with a chilling effect, and if it ever actually went in front of a judge we'd see how much is truly reflective of the law. Honestly the whole thing strikes me as they've hired some corporate cover-your-ass lawyer who's convinced them if they don't write the most hostile document possible they're totally going to end up like Kleenex just like that.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 24 |
programmingcirclejerk | Handsomefoxhf | jgqg9n7 | <|sols|><|sot|>Rust subreddits must "formally adopt and enforce a robust Code of Conduct"<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/blyxyas/no-rust-policy-change<|eol|><|sor|>You cannot use "the unique visual style of their website" (They trademarked a very basic website design).<|eor|><|sor|>Does somebody know what their visual style even means? Having black text on a white background?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 22 |
programmingcirclejerk | pandakekok9 | 11gs0mj | <|sols|><|sot|>Ah, so that's why. I have my own Greasemonkey script which I named "https-nowhere" which turns https links that are not of the same host as the current one into http links, which is why I got the http version instead.<|eot|><|sol|>https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29528&start=20#p237247<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 145 |
programmingcirclejerk | Jumpy-Locksmith6812 | jaq2osv | <|sols|><|sot|>Ah, so that's why. I have my own Greasemonkey script which I named "https-nowhere" which turns https links that are not of the same host as the current one into http links, which is why I got the http version instead.<|eot|><|sol|>https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29528&start=20#p237247<|eol|><|sor|>3rd line support workers hate his one weird trick<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 81 |
programmingcirclejerk | syklemil | jaq6m9k | <|sols|><|sot|>Ah, so that's why. I have my own Greasemonkey script which I named "https-nowhere" which turns https links that are not of the same host as the current one into http links, which is why I got the http version instead.<|eot|><|sol|>https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29528&start=20#p237247<|eol|><|sor|>I'm legit curious at what the reasoning behind that one is<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 72 |
programmingcirclejerk | Philpax | jaq8rk0 | <|sols|><|sot|>Ah, so that's why. I have my own Greasemonkey script which I named "https-nowhere" which turns https links that are not of the same host as the current one into http links, which is why I got the http version instead.<|eot|><|sol|>https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29528&start=20#p237247<|eol|><|sor|>I'm legit curious at what the reasoning behind that one is<|eor|><|sor|>-funroll-loops brain<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 66 |
programmingcirclejerk | Teemperor | jaqb14f | <|sols|><|sot|>Ah, so that's why. I have my own Greasemonkey script which I named "https-nowhere" which turns https links that are not of the same host as the current one into http links, which is why I got the http version instead.<|eot|><|sol|>https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29528&start=20#p237247<|eol|><|sor|>If you write enough nonsense, plain text becomes indistinguishable from ciphertext.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 49 |
programmingcirclejerk | mizzu704 | jaqhpma | <|sols|><|sot|>Ah, so that's why. I have my own Greasemonkey script which I named "https-nowhere" which turns https links that are not of the same host as the current one into http links, which is why I got the http version instead.<|eot|><|sol|>https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29528&start=20#p237247<|eol|><|sor|>> forum.palemoon.org
of course<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 38 |
programmingcirclejerk | bladub | jaqb1gk | <|sols|><|sot|>Ah, so that's why. I have my own Greasemonkey script which I named "https-nowhere" which turns https links that are not of the same host as the current one into http links, which is why I got the http version instead.<|eot|><|sol|>https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29528&start=20#p237247<|eol|><|sor|>I'm legit curious at what the reasoning behind that one is<|eor|><|sor|>-funroll-loops brain<|eor|><|sor|>envisioning the kind of developer that eagerly agrees with [phk from a decade ago](https://varnish-cache.org/docs/4.0/phk/ssl.html)<|eor|><|sor|>/uj Oh interesting link. It's essentially "use a reverse proxy, because I don't have the skill to maintain it as a dependency, nor would it be better than using a reverse proxy." which is the most sensible take for a non-security expert programmer I ever read.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 34 |
programmingcirclejerk | syklemil | jaq9m48 | <|sols|><|sot|>Ah, so that's why. I have my own Greasemonkey script which I named "https-nowhere" which turns https links that are not of the same host as the current one into http links, which is why I got the http version instead.<|eot|><|sol|>https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29528&start=20#p237247<|eol|><|sor|>I'm legit curious at what the reasoning behind that one is<|eor|><|sor|>-funroll-loops brain<|eor|><|sor|>envisioning the kind of developer that eagerly agrees with [phk from a decade ago](https://varnish-cache.org/docs/4.0/phk/ssl.html)<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 22 |
programmingcirclejerk | amlyo | jaqv0mw | <|sols|><|sot|>Ah, so that's why. I have my own Greasemonkey script which I named "https-nowhere" which turns https links that are not of the same host as the current one into http links, which is why I got the http version instead.<|eot|><|sol|>https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29528&start=20#p237247<|eol|><|sor|>I'm legit curious at what the reasoning behind that one is<|eor|><|sor|>-funroll-loops brain<|eor|><|sor|>envisioning the kind of developer that eagerly agrees with [phk from a decade ago](https://varnish-cache.org/docs/4.0/phk/ssl.html)<|eor|><|sor|>Wow.
> Even if I have no idea what it does, there are many aspect of [OpenSSL] that scares me.
Ten months before Heartbleed was committed.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 20 |
programmingcirclejerk | anon202001 | jaqi2x7 | <|sols|><|sot|>Ah, so that's why. I have my own Greasemonkey script which I named "https-nowhere" which turns https links that are not of the same host as the current one into http links, which is why I got the http version instead.<|eot|><|sol|>https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29528&start=20#p237247<|eol|><|sor|>I'm legit curious at what the reasoning behind that one is<|eor|><|sor|>-funroll-loops brain<|eor|><|sor|>envisioning the kind of developer that eagerly agrees with [phk from a decade ago](https://varnish-cache.org/docs/4.0/phk/ssl.html)<|eor|><|sor|>/uj that is a reasonable "I don't SSL because modular design", whereas for a more edgy stance, try `http://n-gate.com/software/2017/`<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 18 |
programmingcirclejerk | syklemil | jaqczuz | <|sols|><|sot|>Ah, so that's why. I have my own Greasemonkey script which I named "https-nowhere" which turns https links that are not of the same host as the current one into http links, which is why I got the http version instead.<|eot|><|sol|>https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29528&start=20#p237247<|eol|><|sor|>I'm legit curious at what the reasoning behind that one is<|eor|><|sor|>-funroll-loops brain<|eor|><|sor|>envisioning the kind of developer that eagerly agrees with [phk from a decade ago](https://varnish-cache.org/docs/4.0/phk/ssl.html)<|eor|><|sor|>/uj Oh interesting link. It's essentially "use a reverse proxy, because I don't have the skill to maintain it as a dependency, nor would it be better than using a reverse proxy." which is the most sensible take for a non-security expert programmer I ever read.<|eor|><|sor|>/uj varnish also supports https _now_, both terminating for clients and backends with https. But for what felt like a really long while it was just http. And there's that little difference between reacting to that with "ugh, I guess" and setting up another service just to handle tls, and
/j whatever this "https-nowhere" stuff is. At least they don't have to rely on those pesky ssl libraries and _burn cpu cycles_ doing it.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 18 |
programmingcirclejerk | tristan97122 | jaswqph | <|sols|><|sot|>Ah, so that's why. I have my own Greasemonkey script which I named "https-nowhere" which turns https links that are not of the same host as the current one into http links, which is why I got the http version instead.<|eot|><|sol|>https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29528&start=20#p237247<|eol|><|sor|>> forum.palemoon.org
of course<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
I don't get all this palemoon hate. It would have been the best browser if not for the performance. I still haven't found a good alternative outside of maybe nyxt.<|eor|><|sor|>Palemoon is perfect and their userbase is perfectly sane. pccj a bunch of haters as usual
/uj: as a site maintainer, you eventually find that this (insane browser/extensions setup) is is in fact not an outlier but the average palemoon user, and theyre vocal about it<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 14 |
programmingcirclejerk | syklemil | jaqy7ur | <|sols|><|sot|>Ah, so that's why. I have my own Greasemonkey script which I named "https-nowhere" which turns https links that are not of the same host as the current one into http links, which is why I got the http version instead.<|eot|><|sol|>https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29528&start=20#p237247<|eol|><|sor|>I'm legit curious at what the reasoning behind that one is<|eor|><|sor|>-funroll-loops brain<|eor|><|sor|>envisioning the kind of developer that eagerly agrees with [phk from a decade ago](https://varnish-cache.org/docs/4.0/phk/ssl.html)<|eor|><|sor|>Wow.
> Even if I have no idea what it does, there are many aspect of [OpenSSL] that scares me.
Ten months before Heartbleed was committed.<|eor|><|sor|>Yeah, I really can't recall hearing nice things about openssl, like ever?
But I'm also not entirely convinced by an argument that will basically mean "We don't want to include openssl, so you should run _another_ service in front that includes openssl".
(See also: not just burning cpu cycles in varnish to handle tls, but burning cpu cycles in another service to handle tls _and_ all the other stuff involved in running one more service and handing traffic between the two.)<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 11 |
programmingcirclejerk | xe3to | jaqqspj | <|sols|><|sot|>Ah, so that's why. I have my own Greasemonkey script which I named "https-nowhere" which turns https links that are not of the same host as the current one into http links, which is why I got the http version instead.<|eot|><|sol|>https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29528&start=20#p237247<|eol|><|sor|>I'm legit curious at what the reasoning behind that one is<|eor|><|sor|>-funroll-loops brain<|eor|><|sor|>envisioning the kind of developer that eagerly agrees with [phk from a decade ago](https://varnish-cache.org/docs/4.0/phk/ssl.html)<|eor|><|sor|>I do agree with this reasoning actually. Do one thing well. Perfectly reasonable for an HTTP cache to ignore SSL and let NGINX sit in front and handle that imo.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 8 |
programmingcirclejerk | syklemil | jaqrg9m | <|sols|><|sot|>Ah, so that's why. I have my own Greasemonkey script which I named "https-nowhere" which turns https links that are not of the same host as the current one into http links, which is why I got the http version instead.<|eot|><|sol|>https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29528&start=20#p237247<|eol|><|sor|>I'm legit curious at what the reasoning behind that one is<|eor|><|sor|>-funroll-loops brain<|eor|><|sor|>envisioning the kind of developer that eagerly agrees with [phk from a decade ago](https://varnish-cache.org/docs/4.0/phk/ssl.html)<|eor|><|sor|>I do agree with this reasoning actually. Do one thing well. Perfectly reasonable for an HTTP cache to ignore SSL and let NGINX sit in front and handle that imo.<|eor|><|sor|>/uj: We don't need to actually discuss decisions from over a decade ago that no longer stand.
For those interested, hitch became a common way to do tls in front of varnish, but at this point varnish can handle it itself (and supports http/2 even though phk wasn't impressed when it was new, etc)<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 6 |
programmingcirclejerk | tristan97122 | jawmg1f | <|sols|><|sot|>Ah, so that's why. I have my own Greasemonkey script which I named "https-nowhere" which turns https links that are not of the same host as the current one into http links, which is why I got the http version instead.<|eot|><|sol|>https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29528&start=20#p237247<|eol|><|sor|>> forum.palemoon.org
of course<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
I don't get all this palemoon hate. It would have been the best browser if not for the performance. I still haven't found a good alternative outside of maybe nyxt.<|eor|><|sor|>Palemoon is perfect and their userbase is perfectly sane. pccj a bunch of haters as usual
/uj: as a site maintainer, you eventually find that this (insane browser/extensions setup) is is in fact not an outlier but the average palemoon user, and theyre vocal about it<|eor|><|sor|>> this (insane browser/extensions setup) is is in fact not an outlier but the average palemoon user, and theyre vocal about it
Well hello there. Though I am managing to mostly contain my rage towards so called "web" so called "apps", and their creators.<|eor|><|sor|>Self-inflicted anger management is a true 10x ~~dev~~ browser user trait
/uj: Theres plenty of valid criticism of the so-called modern web, of dumb practices like UA sniffing, of abusive tracking, but thats not the point
If youre fulfilled by using PM thats great. And maybe youre one of a few alright users of alternative browsers. More power to you, and it is often an admirable thing to stand up and go against the flow.
Unfortunately the vast majority of your peers do keep making borderline insane decisions for psychotic reasons, then **demand** help or straight up blame people that just struggle enough as-is with differences between Chromium and Firefox sprinkled with the heaps of extra dumb shit Safari keeps pulling. And thats neither admirable nor pleasant for those on the receiving end.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 5 |
programmingcirclejerk | TheInfluentialGoals | vaoefz | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 145 |
programmingcirclejerk | vexstream | ic3vqt9 | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>As I watch my build pipeline download and install 2400 megabytes of node_nodules, 3000 megabytes of git repo ~40 times per day for PR validation I rest assured that I'm doing as much as reasonably possible to use up every byte of bandwidth that Microsoft affords us.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 90 |
programmingcirclejerk | xmcqdpt2 | ic3yyhi | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|> Exception in thread "main"
sun.pcj.jerkutils.JerkNotFoundException
at JerkDetectorImpl.detectJerk(JerkDetectorImplPcj.java:906)
at JerkDetectorImpl.detectJerk(JerkDetectorImplPcj.java:890)
at AbstractJerkDetector.detectJerk(AbstractJerkDetector.java:1667)
at AbstractJerkDetector.run(AbstractJerkDetector.java:15)
at ProgrammingCircleJerk.main(ProgrammingCircleJerkApp.java:7)<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 59 |
programmingcirclejerk | senj | ic3z26t | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>> Please keep in mind, this is a purely intuitive display. It's going to look like gobbledygook to anyone who's unfamiliar with CP437, but surely anyone can agree it's better than a wall of period marks, in terms of the richness and complexity of the information it succinctly conveys. CP437 can be thought of as an alphabet with 256 letters. You can scroll through pages and pages of this stuff and your mind will magically spot and identify patterns.
hell yeah I love schizo posting<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 52 |
programmingcirclejerk | Gearwatcher | ic463l2 | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>Anime waifu - check.
Completely irrelevant project - check.
Inane rants ARE the documentation - check.
Yup, the Real McCoy is upon us.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 51 |
programmingcirclejerk | fp_weenie | ic3nh72 | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>> Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. ... Bloat is like the fake jobs version of scalability, in the sense that bloat offers hungry devs the thrill of complexity without the advantages.
not wrong lmao<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 47 |
programmingcirclejerk | OctagonClock | ic3ukz5 | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>This line of reasoning is why the programming language I'm building will not have a stdlib. I might be jerking, but I'm not joking.<|eor|><|sor|>You're building JavaScript?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 34 |
programmingcirclejerk | fp_weenie | ic46wve | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>As I watch my build pipeline download and install 2400 megabytes of node_nodules, 3000 megabytes of git repo ~40 times per day for PR validation I rest assured that I'm doing as much as reasonably possible to use up every byte of bandwidth that Microsoft affords us.<|eor|><|sor|>It's a tradeoff no silver bullets it HAS to be insecure actually you just don't understand wow what a lack of empathy<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 32 |
programmingcirclejerk | PL_Design | ic3wede | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>This line of reasoning is why the programming language I'm building will not have a stdlib. I might be jerking, but I'm not joking.<|eor|><|sor|>You're building JavaScript?<|eor|><|sor|>No. The type coercion rules will be even more braindead.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 28 |
programmingcirclejerk | Lammy | ic4vtqb | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>> I think codebases have been lacking in a woman's touch for decades; and that especially applies to open source, which has never really had a woman's touch at all.
unironically based<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 27 |
programmingcirclejerk | BillyIII | ic4iv2d | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>This line of reasoning is why the programming language I'm building will not have a stdlib. I might be jerking, but I'm not joking.<|eor|><|sor|>You're building JavaScript?<|eor|><|sor|>No. The type coercion rules will be even more braindead.<|eor|><|sor|>Excuse you. JavaScript has an extremely robust set of type coercion rules that has been heavily optimized for developer productivity.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 24 |
programmingcirclejerk | PL_Design | ic4b8fv | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>This line of reasoning is why the programming language I'm building will not have a stdlib. I might be jerking, but I'm not joking.<|eor|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>No. There will be no package manager. Write everything yourself or fuck off. I'm jerking, but I'm not joking.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 22 |
programmingcirclejerk | PL_Design | ic3pq3m | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>This line of reasoning is why the programming language I'm building will not have a stdlib. I might be jerking, but I'm not joking.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 19 |
programmingcirclejerk | illustrious_trees | ic6r0ya | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>> I think codebases have been lacking in a woman's touch for decades; and that especially applies to open source, which has never really had a woman's touch at all.
If she thinks this is true I doubt she is very experienced in real software development.
I think more tautologically she means If I write code then by MY standards it is less bloated than what I read in other codebases and i am a woman combine to illogically produce that quoted statement.<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
> If she thinks this is true I doubt she is very experienced in real software development.
LOL Have you looked at her projects?
* Cosmopolititian (header files assisting in crossplatform compilation, basically allowing you to create one executable file for all platforms)
* Sector Lisp: Lisp that fits in 512 bytes
* Redbean: Web server compiled using Cosmopolititian
* Printvideo: Using a terminal to view videos
These are just off the top of my head.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 18 |
programmingcirclejerk | OctagonClock | ic4q269 | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>This line of reasoning is why the programming language I'm building will not have a stdlib. I might be jerking, but I'm not joking.<|eor|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>This but /uj
My project shouldn't pull 300 dependencies when like 170 of them should be present in the stdlib anyway<|eor|><|sor|>Pulling in ten crates to do generics over number types is extremely fearlessly moral, I'll have you know.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 17 |
programmingcirclejerk | NonDairyYandere | ic52lsn | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>Anime waifu - check.
Completely irrelevant project - check.
Inane rants ARE the documentation - check.
Yup, the Real McCoy is upon us.<|eor|><|sor|>Ah it's justine again<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 16 |
programmingcirclejerk | univalence | ic4qrif | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>> I think codebases have been lacking in a woman's touch for decades
Oh boy, I can't wait for all the hot takes about feminine software design.<|eor|><|sor|>> and that especially applies to open source, which has never really had a woman's touch at all.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 15 |
programmingcirclejerk | YM_Industries | ic5q6h3 | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>> I think codebases have been lacking in a woman's touch for decades; and that especially applies to open source, which has never really had a woman's touch at all.
unironically based<|eor|><|sor|>Not really true though, since every open source contributor is transfem.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 14 |
programmingcirclejerk | lkraider | ic5wu7m | <|sols|><|sot|>Losers always whine about how their bloat is a calculated tradeoff. The important thing to consider is that there is no tradeoff. Just engineers who've been victimized by the accidental complexity of modern software.<|eot|><|sol|>https://justine.lol/sizetricks/#why<|eol|><|sor|>This line of reasoning is why the programming language I'm building will not have a stdlib. I might be jerking, but I'm not joking.<|eor|><|sor|>You're building JavaScript?<|eor|><|sor|>No. The type coercion rules will be even more braindead.<|eor|><|sor|>Excuse you. JavaScript has an extremely robust set of type coercion rules that has been heavily optimized for developer productivity.<|eor|><|sor|>Millions of software developers around the globe could not be wrong!
^(could they?)<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 14 |
programmingcirclejerk | LunaPowder | ty8ahy | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 144 |
programmingcirclejerk | Zlodo2 | i3rrkia | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>That's great since we all know that if a C program compiles it's guaranteed to work<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 81 |
programmingcirclejerk | natalialt | i3qmtyo | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>Woah, translating C into Rust is impressive<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 67 |
programmingcirclejerk | integralWorker | i3qx4rx | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>We also found that previously 67% of the compiled binaries would segfault upon execution, this number is now 89%<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 53 |
programmingcirclejerk | EpicDaNoob | i3r11v5 | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>I have an even better model which achieves 100% success rate at correcting any broken program so that it compiles successfully. Here is the full source code:
#include <stdio.h>
int main(void) {
puts("int main(void){}");
}<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 51 |
programmingcirclejerk | ProgVal | i3rklwu | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>Woah, translating C into Rust is impressive<|eor|><|sor|>They don't mention Rust explicitly, but you can tell it is, because they have a section on "Ethical Considerations".<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 41 |
programmingcirclejerk | incompetenceProMax | i3qw4ev | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>But who cares? Any valid C program is broken beyond repair. AI or not it is literally impossible to fix the lack of memory safety in the language specification itself.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 36 |
programmingcirclejerk | rileyphone | i3rk619 | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>In prime C-nile fashion, in order to get code to compile they [introduce buffer overflows](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjU6EWTNme8i8UftAzTxGA9X0n8nLzA5pkVV0BgzCRrxqddh7A65r4_svL5vYJl49HWN2QYNRFQgF6TrGpncz2Q_TuLvA2ynGZq9wnFP7wEnhSbkS-_viwhHtdahGozhCxHeILT7XS4w4cfGkJtum5nbUk6Mi9TP5s_OWRkvPAznhfWIOsvuVX8QgoisA/s2951/deepfix_task_879.png). State of the art doesn't care about such paltry concerns.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 33 |
programmingcirclejerk | Gobrosse | i3qr8tg | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>damn google stealing my sigbovik paper ideas<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 30 |
programmingcirclejerk | degaart | i3ruyu6 | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>Pffft, that's nothing. I have written a small script that turns any random text file into a legal Brainfuck program with a 100% success rate.
(It just completes any missing `[`s and `]`s at the beginning and at the end of the text file, of course.)<|eor|><|sor|>That's useless. Any random text file is already a valid perl program anyway. You just need a perl -> brainfuck transpiler<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 30 |
programmingcirclejerk | VariationDistinct330 | i3qpoag | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>Looks like Haskalites won't be the only ones fishing stale burritos out of dumpsters<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 23 |
programmingcirclejerk | Poddster | i3r07tu | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>I'm about to replace my entire staff with PaLM-Coder 540B.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 20 |
programmingcirclejerk | bah_si_en_fait | i3r3j5f | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>Interns-as-a-Service is finally a thing<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 20 |
programmingcirclejerk | AprilSpektra | i3tiqjy | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>That's great since we all know that if a C program compiles it's guaranteed to work<|eor|><|sor|>Look if my compiler didn't tell me that my program would leak the user's Social Security number over the internet in plaintext, I hardly see how I can be held responsible<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 19 |
programmingcirclejerk | irqlnotdispatchlevel | i3rhly1 | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>More like cniles should be considered a tool in PaLM2's toolbox.
I can say without any uncertainty whatsoever, I am incredibly glad that I never took up C as a career.
cniles, your days were already numbered, and today marks the first time that there were less than four digits remaining in that number.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 15 |
programmingcirclejerk | defunkydrummer | i3skntn | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>damn google stealing my sigbovik paper ideas<|eor|><|sor|>>sigbovik
SIGBOVIK is basically PCj-by-committee<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 13 |
programmingcirclejerk | ProfessorSexyTime | i3sablc | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>Pffft, that's nothing. I have written a small script that turns any random text file into a legal Brainfuck program with a 100% success rate.
(It just completes any missing `[`s and `]`s at the beginning and at the end of the text file, of course.)<|eor|><|sor|>You just `cat /dev/urandom` a bunch until something sticks?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 12 |
programmingcirclejerk | pareidolist | i3raxnz | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>Here on r/programmingcirclejerk, we're all palm-coders.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 9 |
programmingcirclejerk | ProfessorSexyTime | i3sibah | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>> PaLM demonstrates impressive natural language understanding and generation capabilities on several BIG-bench tasks. For example, the model can distinguish cause and effect, understand conceptual combinations in appropriate contexts, and **even guess the movie from an emoji**.
Plaudits to those who spent time making sure the AI understood emojis. Truly we are on the cusp of a serious breakthrough in AI.
Now I wonder how it handles being told "This statement is false."<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 8 |
programmingcirclejerk | CallMeAnanda | i3tuxm7 | <|sols|><|sot|>> The objective is to modify initially broken C programs until they compile successfully. PaLM-Coder 540B demonstrates impressive performance, achieving a compile rate of 82.1%, which outperforms the prior 71.7% state of the art.<|eot|><|sol|>https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/04/pathways-language-model-palm-scaling-to.html<|eol|><|sor|>That's great since we all know that if a C program compiles it's guaranteed to work<|eor|><|sor|>You have it backwards. If a C program doesn't compile, it's guaranteed not to work.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 7 |
programmingcirclejerk | cmov | pe9a53 | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 143 |
programmingcirclejerk | temporarystupidpol10 | havy2gx | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>Uj {
Imagine trying to teach a child who doesn't understand arithmetic what an associative operation is.
}
Why the fuck is it always category theory with programmers, and why do they think it has applications. These people want to talk about topos and universal properties when they couldnt even get through chapter 1 of Knuth on sums and counting.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 95 |
programmingcirclejerk | Karyo_Ten | haw9r56 | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>Uj {
Imagine trying to teach a child who doesn't understand arithmetic what an associative operation is.
}
Why the fuck is it always category theory with programmers, and why do they think it has applications. These people want to talk about topos and universal properties when they couldnt even get through chapter 1 of Knuth on sums and counting.<|eor|><|sor|>>programmers
Let me interject for a moment, what you are referring to as programmer, is in fact, GHC/Programmer, or I've recently taken to calling it, GHC + programmer.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 68 |
programmingcirclejerk | Chillbrosaurus_Rex | haw93o1 | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>> I think that you're overreacting a little to an imagined strawman. Wealreadyteach kids a decategorified set theory in order to give them an understanding of counting. We don't take the next step into category theory, which is to explain mappings between sets: If I can trade one sheep for two goats, and I have five sheep which I all trade for goats, how many goats do I get?
> Remember: Sets are 0-categories, so set theory is 0-category theory.
What kind of point is even being made here<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 42 |
programmingcirclejerk | Karyo_Ten | haw9xme | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>> I think that you're overreacting a little to an imagined strawman. Wealreadyteach kids a decategorified set theory in order to give them an understanding of counting. We don't take the next step into category theory, which is to explain mappings between sets: If I can trade one sheep for two goats, and I have five sheep which I all trade for goats, how many goats do I get?
> Remember: Sets are 0-categories, so set theory is 0-category theory.
What kind of point is even being made here<|eor|><|sor|>That we don't teach kids negotiation skills and aiming for bulk discount obviously.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 41 |
programmingcirclejerk | cmov | havro5q | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|soopr|>fyi the context is first graders, see parent comment.<|eoopr|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 31 |
programmingcirclejerk | PrimozDelux | hawlifu | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>> I think that you're overreacting a little to an imagined strawman. Wealreadyteach kids a decategorified set theory in order to give them an understanding of counting. We don't take the next step into category theory, which is to explain mappings between sets: If I can trade one sheep for two goats, and I have five sheep which I all trade for goats, how many goats do I get?
> Remember: Sets are 0-categories, so set theory is 0-category theory.
What kind of point is even being made here<|eor|><|sor|>>What kind of point is even being made here
The point is that I'm very smart<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 26 |
programmingcirclejerk | CreationBlues | hawpnhm | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>Uj {
Imagine trying to teach a child who doesn't understand arithmetic what an associative operation is.
}
Why the fuck is it always category theory with programmers, and why do they think it has applications. These people want to talk about topos and universal properties when they couldnt even get through chapter 1 of Knuth on sums and counting.<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
It's because it's generic group theory, and group theory is enormously powerful and is at the forefront of current mathematical theory. Of course, it's pretty useless until you get supremely deep into the weeds compared to even calculus... but it's still simple enough you can read a couple pages and start throwing around buzz words to make yourself seem smart.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 23 |
programmingcirclejerk | cs61bredditaccount | haw0bau | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>That's why I teach my kid arithmetic from [A Cohomological Viewpoint on Elementary School Arithmetic](https://www.jstor.org/stable/3072368) Nice blend of modern mathematical language and school arithmetic so they aren't fully overwhelmed.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 22 |
programmingcirclejerk | F54280 | hawxuku | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>Uj {
Imagine trying to teach a child who doesn't understand arithmetic what an associative operation is.
}
Why the fuck is it always category theory with programmers, and why do they think it has applications. These people want to talk about topos and universal properties when they couldnt even get through chapter 1 of Knuth on sums and counting.<|eor|><|sor|>>programmers
Let me interject for a moment, what you are referring to as programmer, is in fact, GHC/Programmer, or I've recently taken to calling it, GHC + programmer.<|eor|><|sor|>You meant GHCprogrammer, right ?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 20 |
programmingcirclejerk | tnbd | hawo885 | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>What's the big deal with arithmetic? Isn't there an npm package for that?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 19 |
programmingcirclejerk | MurphLinear712 | haxaxnl | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>Uj {
Imagine trying to teach a child who doesn't understand arithmetic what an associative operation is.
}
Why the fuck is it always category theory with programmers, and why do they think it has applications. These people want to talk about topos and universal properties when they couldnt even get through chapter 1 of Knuth on sums and counting.<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
It's because it's generic group theory, and group theory is enormously powerful and is at the forefront of current mathematical theory. Of course, it's pretty useless until you get supremely deep into the weeds compared to even calculus... but it's still simple enough you can read a couple pages and start throwing around buzz words to make yourself seem smart.<|eor|><|sor|>> group theory is enormously powerful and is at the forefront of current mathematical theory
Found Abels alt<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 19 |
programmingcirclejerk | Karyo_Ten | hax09o0 | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>Uj {
Imagine trying to teach a child who doesn't understand arithmetic what an associative operation is.
}
Why the fuck is it always category theory with programmers, and why do they think it has applications. These people want to talk about topos and universal properties when they couldnt even get through chapter 1 of Knuth on sums and counting.<|eor|><|sor|>>programmers
Let me interject for a moment, what you are referring to as programmer, is in fact, GHC/Programmer, or I've recently taken to calling it, GHC + programmer.<|eor|><|sor|>You meant GHCprogrammer, right ?<|eor|><|sor|>Should you bind it instead? GHC>>=Programmer<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 13 |
programmingcirclejerk | CoinForWares | haw0cvq | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>[wait, wait ive seen this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/programmingcirclejerk/comments/lwwbet/my_favourite_way_of_thinking_about_arithmetics/)<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 11 |
programmingcirclejerk | jk_scowling | hax0wpy | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>> The parts of category theory that you're imagining, with the morphisms and natural transformations, doesn't have to be taught before arithmetic. It can be taught when lambdas are first introduced, when we write "f(x)" on the board for the first time.
Meanwhile my child has just stuck a felt tip up his nose.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 11 |
programmingcirclejerk | PL_Design | hawh13c | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>Uj {
Imagine trying to teach a child who doesn't understand arithmetic what an associative operation is.
}
Why the fuck is it always category theory with programmers, and why do they think it has applications. These people want to talk about topos and universal properties when they couldnt even get through chapter 1 of Knuth on sums and counting.<|eor|><|sor|>Simple. They're weenies.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 11 |
programmingcirclejerk | lambda-male | haxd0aw | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>Uj {
Imagine trying to teach a child who doesn't understand arithmetic what an associative operation is.
}
Why the fuck is it always category theory with programmers, and why do they think it has applications. These people want to talk about topos and universal properties when they couldnt even get through chapter 1 of Knuth on sums and counting.<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
It's because it's generic group theory, and group theory is enormously powerful and is at the forefront of current mathematical theory. Of course, it's pretty useless until you get supremely deep into the weeds compared to even calculus... but it's still simple enough you can read a couple pages and start throwing around buzz words to make yourself seem smart.<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
I don't know if I'm missunderstanding something but category theory is not group theory<|eor|><|sor|>It's monoidoid theory<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 11 |
programmingcirclejerk | ProfessorSexyTime | haxx1de | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>Today after nap time, we will be studying endofunctors <|eor|><|sor|>We made monad burritos for lunch, and had functor juice boxes.
My monad had crayons in it!<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 10 |
programmingcirclejerk | temporarystupidpol10 | haxlbby | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>Uj {
Imagine trying to teach a child who doesn't understand arithmetic what an associative operation is.
}
Why the fuck is it always category theory with programmers, and why do they think it has applications. These people want to talk about topos and universal properties when they couldnt even get through chapter 1 of Knuth on sums and counting.<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
It's because it's generic group theory, and group theory is enormously powerful and is at the forefront of current mathematical theory. Of course, it's pretty useless until you get supremely deep into the weeds compared to even calculus... but it's still simple enough you can read a couple pages and start throwing around buzz words to make yourself seem smart.<|eor|><|sor|>uj {
Group theory is not at the forefront. It was invented in the 19th century and you learn an elementary version as a sophomore.
Now of course higher level math refers alot to groups, but they refer a lot to addition, circles, and polynomials too.
Also it probably makes a lot more sense to learn groups before categories.
}<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 10 |
programmingcirclejerk | matu3ba | hawqbki | <|sols|><|sot|>I would argue that arithmetic is overvalued in early mathematics education. Category theory, as an example, has many more practical applications and leads into arithmetic.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28344271<|eol|><|sor|>Uj {
Imagine trying to teach a child who doesn't understand arithmetic what an associative operation is.
}
Why the fuck is it always category theory with programmers, and why do they think it has applications. These people want to talk about topos and universal properties when they couldnt even get through chapter 1 of Knuth on sums and counting.<|eor|><|sor|>/uj?
For associative operations, you can use work plans on letters for finishing something simple. If the plan/instructipns is/are not followed, you have no associated operation.
So 2 ice balls and carotte and 2 black buttons and work of a 4 year old make a snow man.
If you have more things and a 4 year old, you get a cripple/broken snow man.
If you repeat this on distinct areas, you get more snowman.
If you have no distinct area, you get cripple(s)/broken snow man/men.
Lazy evaluation: Teach your child lazyness and making up stories that the lazyness is fine, so somebody else solves the problem. Tell the child to choose each time a different person.
Purity is when always the same happens, when you do something. Pain works best on this.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 7 |
programmingcirclejerk | EmergencySwitch | ovtmek | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm always amazed when people ship cool software with what I judge to be crappy, obsolete, or even downright dangerous processes/practices. Yet even though I (by my own judgement) use superior processes and practices (VSCode + Git + CI pipelines, etc.), I haven't shipped anything nearly as cool.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18399474<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 144 |
programmingcirclejerk | CallinCthulhu | h7cfog6 | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm always amazed when people ship cool software with what I judge to be crappy, obsolete, or even downright dangerous processes/practices. Yet even though I (by my own judgement) use superior processes and practices (VSCode + Git + CI pipelines, etc.), I haven't shipped anything nearly as cool.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18399474<|eol|><|sor|>Everyone knows its the tools and processes that matter. Honestly who gives a shit about shipping working software<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 56 |
programmingcirclejerk | silviustitus | h7bkeuy | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm always amazed when people ship cool software with what I judge to be crappy, obsolete, or even downright dangerous processes/practices. Yet even though I (by my own judgement) use superior processes and practices (VSCode + Git + CI pipelines, etc.), I haven't shipped anything nearly as cool.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18399474<|eol|><|sor|>>implying vscode is superior to vim<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 46 |
programmingcirclejerk | androgynyjoe | h7buspd | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm always amazed when people ship cool software with what I judge to be crappy, obsolete, or even downright dangerous processes/practices. Yet even though I (by my own judgement) use superior processes and practices (VSCode + Git + CI pipelines, etc.), I haven't shipped anything nearly as cool.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18399474<|eol|><|sor|>I painted flames on the side of my car; why isn't it going faster?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 43 |
programmingcirclejerk | PL_Design | h7bv2h7 | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm always amazed when people ship cool software with what I judge to be crappy, obsolete, or even downright dangerous processes/practices. Yet even though I (by my own judgement) use superior processes and practices (VSCode + Git + CI pipelines, etc.), I haven't shipped anything nearly as cool.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18399474<|eol|><|sor|>I painted flames on the side of my car; why isn't it going faster?<|eor|><|sor|>because you didn't take out the muffler, you dingus. it can't just look fast, it has to sound fast, too<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 37 |
programmingcirclejerk | RustEvangelist10xer | h7bz8pg | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm always amazed when people ship cool software with what I judge to be crappy, obsolete, or even downright dangerous processes/practices. Yet even though I (by my own judgement) use superior processes and practices (VSCode + Git + CI pipelines, etc.), I haven't shipped anything nearly as cool.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18399474<|eol|><|sor|>>implying vscode is superior to vim<|eor|><|sor|>>implying that vim can even be put somewhere on the scale of coolness given my super clean `cat` routine<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 36 |
programmingcirclejerk | usernameqwerty005 | h7bubeu | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm always amazed when people ship cool software with what I judge to be crappy, obsolete, or even downright dangerous processes/practices. Yet even though I (by my own judgement) use superior processes and practices (VSCode + Git + CI pipelines, etc.), I haven't shipped anything nearly as cool.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18399474<|eol|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>> DragonflyBSD
If all you have is a HAMMER2, you're cool as f.
Why try to automate society and help people in their everyday life when you can shave the yak until your eyes bleed?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 34 |
programmingcirclejerk | leaningtoweravenger | h7cc06q | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm always amazed when people ship cool software with what I judge to be crappy, obsolete, or even downright dangerous processes/practices. Yet even though I (by my own judgement) use superior processes and practices (VSCode + Git + CI pipelines, etc.), I haven't shipped anything nearly as cool.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18399474<|eol|><|sor|>> Maybe you spend too much time on processes, getting things right, and less time on actually shipping something useful?
Or even thinking on what to do with those pipelines<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 18 |
programmingcirclejerk | KarelKat | h7d07k8 | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm always amazed when people ship cool software with what I judge to be crappy, obsolete, or even downright dangerous processes/practices. Yet even though I (by my own judgement) use superior processes and practices (VSCode + Git + CI pipelines, etc.), I haven't shipped anything nearly as cool.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18399474<|eol|><|sor|>Everyone knows its the tools and processes that matter. Honestly who gives a shit about shipping working software<|eor|><|sor|>productivity porn<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 18 |
programmingcirclejerk | codeptualize | h7dskya | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm always amazed when people ship cool software with what I judge to be crappy, obsolete, or even downright dangerous processes/practices. Yet even though I (by my own judgement) use superior processes and practices (VSCode + Git + CI pipelines, etc.), I haven't shipped anything nearly as cool.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18399474<|eol|><|sor|>He is totally right. As a webshit, I open my JS files in notepad using FileZilla over FTP. It is for sure crappy, also obsolete, and most definitely dangerous, but I ship.
We can't all write artisan home baked Haskell using local produce that has been "LGTM"'d by a Haskell savant, then checked and blessed by the CI gods using your superior 200% test coverage before it gets gently nudged into production to not disturb it too much on the way out.
Some of us are savages and as long as nothing is done to stop us, we will be blasting our JS into production on a Friday afternoon without giving a (web)shit.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 17 |
programmingcirclejerk | NynaevetialMeara | h7dk7jv | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm always amazed when people ship cool software with what I judge to be crappy, obsolete, or even downright dangerous processes/practices. Yet even though I (by my own judgement) use superior processes and practices (VSCode + Git + CI pipelines, etc.), I haven't shipped anything nearly as cool.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18399474<|eol|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>> DragonflyBSD
If all you have is a HAMMER2, you're cool as f.
Why try to automate society and help people in their everyday life when you can shave the yak until your eyes bleed?<|eor|><|sor|>DragonFlyBSD has a supercool hybrid kernel and highly optimized SMP. But they had to focus on a a shittier btrfs.
Maybe you would actually do well in benchmarks if they actually bothered to use a modern version of GCC. Or Clang.
I don't know if this is an /uj or /rj<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 14 |
programmingcirclejerk | HighlyRegardedExpert | h7ds4c1 | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm always amazed when people ship cool software with what I judge to be crappy, obsolete, or even downright dangerous processes/practices. Yet even though I (by my own judgement) use superior processes and practices (VSCode + Git + CI pipelines, etc.), I haven't shipped anything nearly as cool.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18399474<|eol|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>Amateur. I'm so burned out from tweaking my configs I haven't done any real work in weeks and I'm low key depressed.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 12 |
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