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I have it. No u do not want it. Get the lightning rod xl instead. The 18kw cyclone is meant for a heavy motorcycle or a light transport vehicle. It has horrible snap (aka t will constantly want to lift ur front wheel and flip u) |
Also cyclone uses old motor tech (surface mounted magnets) and LR uses newer stuff (imbedded magnets). Half the size same power, and don't have dirty hall signals so work with sinewave controllers without needing modifications |
4/5 bolt freewheel with a 415 sprocket. It's just below moto chain. |
Yeah lighting rods motor would be good for offroad bike if chain can handle that power |
Just as I suspected! It's toast |
Now if only I had a pair of snap ring pliers. Gonna have to try to figure something out to get that off |
I did it before by putting small wire through the holes and pulling with pliers but I can't seem to get the wire through! |
There we go , got it |
Now I put in steel gear |
Steel gear is in! |
Now onto my least favorite part! Controller installation |
I don't have silicone so I'll use hot glue to re seal the wire holes |
Loool |
i hope you plan on going back with silicone later.... |
not waterproofing the motor...sounds like a short lived motor |
Is that really necessary tho? as when you seal a BBS02/HD, they have the rubber gasket seal thingy |
Never re siliconed the 3 big wires when i took apart my old bbs02 |
rode through fords/rivers, Never once had water issue |
ü§∑ i just assumed silicone would be the better option there. i am by no means an expert |
Probs would be the better option/Idea... But from my exp, not 100 % needed üòâ |
BBS02/HD is decently water resistant |
I've ridden in the rain just fine |
Be sure to dry your chain after riding |
And it works |
Perfect |
Other bike is barebones tho need to upgrade some parts |
just a reminder that going nylon to steel gears makes it stronger but at the same time increases the chances for the next breakdown to be a lot more damage |
Yep u loose out on the mechanical fuse. Also liuxer |
Louder |
Might do that one day to my busted bbshd |
not related but interesting to me |
this handlebar and front fender in the perfect position to trick my brain into thinking the front wheel was broken |
hard to appreciate when zoomed but really gets me in the thumbnail |
The handlebar, the headset is actually facing backwards to make it more comfortable me riding and line up with the windshield better |
Well the bbshd makes it up my driveway effortlessly while the hub barely makes it and I have to get a run for it |
My driveway is fairly steep |
What size wheel you run hub in? |
26x4.0 |
2000w max |
That's quite a load, how do you like fat tyres? It's a shame there are no hub motors really optimized for slow speeds and high load, I run all my DD hubs in 20" rims, it makes a bit of a difference, climbs a bit better, and runs a bit cooler |
Oh you want slow speeds and high loads do you.. |
I like it because I do a lot of off road /atv trail riding, and the old railway tracks here are made of crushed stone , the fat tires make a big difference over them . Also better for snow and ice , especially with studs , as for power, ideally I'd upgrade to a 3000w 72v system, but 52v seems to be my sweet spot seeing as I like to use a 48v inverter for my batteries to run other things from . |
I could help pedal it uphill I guess but I never use them on this bike |
https://ebikes.ca/shop/electric-bicycle-parts/motors/geared-wheelbarrow-motor-agricultural-tire.html |
I usually get a run for it anyways |
`Electric Wheelbarrow motor with high 30:1 Gear Reduction Ratio, (3.1 RPM/V),` |
I so wanna get one of these for the farm I work on . But now they got a quad |
Climb ALL THE THINGS |
mod the quad. lol |
Hehehe |
e-quad with 4WD |
Grin tech did a video on it in action |
I should put 2 on my table.. |
(700lb steel table I move in/out of garage every day) |
Damn , welding table ? |
I meant gearless |
yep |
1kw+ middrive peeps: tips and tricks for extending drivetrain life? gear skip is coming back after a new cassette and chain already. |
Shift gears correctly and make sure you have shift sensors to help aswell, don't use cheap chains. |
typically the kmc X series lasts longer I've had cheap chains last me 400 miles under none electric power. |
Clean and lubricate chain regularly goes a long way. |
Give the chain a while down after a ride to get any surface gunk and with lubes typically relube every 100miles or so |
how bout just ride a single speed so ur chain is thicc and ur sprocket replacement is cheaper |
under 4+kw its not worth it on middrive, u either sacrifice alot of top sped for torque or accelerate slow and have a higher top speed |
once u get well over 3kw u got more than enough power for both |
Figure out what gear your currently always driving in, and figure out what gear gives you the best chainline |
then replace your front sprocket so your now using the gear that gives a good chainline, but you have the ratio of the previous gear you would 'always drive in' |
(And try to use more rear teeth. 11/12/13 tooth sprockets and mid drives do not enjoy each other) |
Too bad there wasn't a large and thick sprocket and chain /chainring for the bbshd |
I'd only really need 3 gears |
There... Is? They got up to like 50t |
Guess I could add spacers, then another sprocket? can you please send a link ? |
What's the issue exactly. Chainline? How far do u need it offset. |
Oh do u wanna do multiple gears on the front gear while running a bbshd? |
Nah not worth it. Just get a good sized front sprocket and a good rear ranged group |
Mainly for towing heavy loads and less overall maintenance. Beefier chain and sprockets front and back |
Yeah chainline is also an issue. Had multiple sprockets snap and also multiple derailleurs |
But I didn't get one of those lekkie sprockets yet |
Notice how bbshd chainrings cost so much ? Compared to bbso2 or 1 |
Heavier duty machined parts |
I ran a 36t lekkie on my bbshd on both a 7 and 11 speed |
Just enough dish to line up center on the sprocket clusters. |
Ran like a dream till I blew up my motor lol |
yea im running 36 tooth on my cyclone too IIRC. narrow/wide. |
https://youtu.be/JBXhAzYoG4E |
I need. Sprocket something like that in the back |
Setup like this |
I wonder why people putting that much effort on this meme setups don't just strip down the whole tool and make a a better support for just the motor and electronics |
it's not that hard and seeing the extra materials in there, I assume that person has access to everything would need to make a custom motor support and probably manage the power switch way better than that |
literally has metal scrap and solder and well... don't forget the drill xD |
Iv opened some of those tools |
its literally coils and bearings mounted to a plastic clamshell |
if you take that shit apart you better have a lathe and mill to replace it and hold the motor/gearbox in alignment |
Like, there is no standalone 'motor' inside that housing.. that housing *is* the motor housing |
they prob sell that as an 'all metal gearbox' model, on account of the two metal plates in the gearbox. |
yeah first is brushless second is not |
I've disassembled a couple of those oldies as well and made a blender with one of them |
that's why I say "it's not that hard to make and enclosure for that" |
at least it isn't with all the stuff you see in that video |
the oldies often had a proper motor in them yea |
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