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I am talking from 1000% experience |
Maybe I can reuse the chain and replace it with a quick link |
But they have experience too? Maybe youre better with newer stuff idk |
Bike chains for multi-speed systems will simply come-apart exactly like that if you try reusing the rivets instead of putting a master link. |
No no no, this has been the case for 40 years now |
When they optimized chains in the 1980s, it became a requirement that masterlinks be put in where a chain is broken for being shortened or lengthened. |
I know but I dont think he did that? Arent chains meant to be shortened or connected in some way after u buy them? |
Yes, most of them with a master link. |
Can I get a history lesson on what this optimization means in #off-topic |
wtf. |
Some 10spd, 11spd and 12spd chains come new with a special master rivet that can only be pushed in once. Then never touched again. |
Isnt that what all chains are like |
Like you arent meant to disconnect them at all or the chain just loses its integrity |
For that one link, yeah the rivet loses pressure |
Then a master link has to be put in |
So there's really no master link on your chain then??? |
I'm dumbfounded |
YES??? Unless you mean something else? You mean those links that are easily disconnected, right??? |
Yeah those are master links |
But like, yyou buy a chain and it comes with a pin to connect it at the other end???? |
These are master links |
I had the kmc one on my last bike but this one foesnt have that |
I disconnected that like 20 times and it was good |
This chain is all chain |
That's a master rivet. Which is only meant to be installed once and never be touched again. |
I had a kmc chain before but this is a shimano chain |
Yea and I havent touched it |
because I know that's how it works |
I need sleep |
Sgasgyxdd |
BE MY PILLOW |
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They love each other so much |
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why |
i didn't even notice the derailleur :facepalm: |
If this was a hub you could go chainless, add a second motor "just in case" :think: |
I wishhhh but I love mids |
same (only rode mids, not biased at all) |
After about 100km with an m620 I might need a new cassette |
after 62miles u should not need to replace a cassette |
I think those occasional sharp teeth are meant to be like that for shifting |
That would be great, though it does shift a bit rough by now |
Yeah I really should have learned how to properly behave with this type of shifter |
I'll probably ride this one for another month or two, or until it's actually dead, and then switch to rohloff |
Not saying it is... But maybe ur indexing is shit |
That shit is hard to get right and makes a huge difference so its understandable |
The key is not to shift under load @sioux612 |
if possible to smoothly guide the chain to the next sprocket |
especially when upshifting |
Whats indexing? |
I guess to simply put it, Indexing your gears is so the derailluer makes it so the chain sits flush on the cassette teeth, rather than wearing and catching it |
Yup I did know that, but the combination of first ever MTB and the matching MTB gearing, with a ridiculously overpowered motor made that harder than expected |
More than once I was at traffic lights, had shifted too low but only noticed when I hit my max speed within like a second of starting to pedal |
That is possible, on occasion it feels like it only goes like 90% of the way it should to properly swithc gears |
yup yup |
this is the reality of mid drive in the city as well haha |
gear management can be quite a bit more annoying compared to a hub motor |
Since I'm not really planning on doing hardcore mountain climbs, and I still have over a kw of power in the motor, I don't really need like twelve gears anyways so maybe I should just go to a nice six speed or whatever |
And yea, Mids are just drive train killers in general üòõ |
8s probably ur sweet spot |
It's mostly about what what chains will work. 6, 7, 8, and 9 (I think 9 is included) all use the same size chains. 10-11 are thinner and 12-spd is thinner yet. |
There was a convo about this yesterday where our boy @Deleted User got into chain sizes for various size cassettes if you want to search for it. |
BOX make their "Prime" line that are 9-spds designed for e-bikes (The tier two setup is one I've seen called out as a good choice). There's also a post from endless-sphere withsome talking about their experiences with various drive trains and what they've found holds up well. |
Or if you really want to get fancy, there is a geared hub coming that's rated for 250nm of torque. |
@Heloc Daaannggg, thats a lot of newtons |
9-spd or something too. |
I still just want a cheap, meaty, 50/100/150% 3 speed hub.. |
https://www.3x3.bike/en/nine-gear-hub/ |
TBH I bet a lot of acustic bikes would be fine with a well spread 3 speed too |
That probably won't be a cheap piece of kit. |
Having ridden 12.5 miles on my 11spd yesterday....no. |
Not 9 |
https://youtu.be/UkZxPIZ1ngY?t=87 |
Shush, no one asked you. |
You already wrote all this shit down so I referred folks to that convo so stop wasting your precious time on this. You're too experienced and helpful. üòÅ |
Chekc timestamp |
I think my solution is better :3 |
Ur mom |
yea, what about her |
Tell her I say, "Hi." |
Lower speed systems have less gear range, I like 9 |
She doesnt know you.. |
9 is slightly thinner |
Tell her, "Heloc says, 'David Letterman'." and then tell me. |
She'll know what it means. |
||If that happened to be a reference to some inside joke and she laughed about it I win the internet today|| |
I think ill just keep being manic about my earlier failures in #break-it |
Anyone know what the number of teeth it is when a mid starts making the chain jump? |
12 or 14t? |
usually 9s or more i think |
Around there, yes. Mine jumps on 11t |
currently on a 9s, Limited out 9th gear, NO jumping as of yet |
But i know if i de limited it, It would run fine for a week, then be jumpy/skippy as shit |
It will happen as ur components wear, mine didnt either at first but now it jumps on 7/8/8 |
Oh yeah, i expect that around 2k miles |
It wont jump at low power |
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