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Speaking of soldering… scale of 1-10, how important is it to solder Anderson powerpole 45A connectors for 30A loads? Beyond the standard crimp |
I would say always Sauter especially with PP 45 |
Iiiii should probably figure out how to yoink the connector outta the spring clip then :facepalm: |
I’ve only got two sets of connections but it’s the transition point between battery/controller and I’ve got lights spliced in there |
a good crimp is always nice |
I don’t exactly have the Andersen crimp tool but… I did get a tight crimp I think |
The as150s look good too but they don't link together |
I've put a little over 800miles on these so far, I'm looking for something with more grip anyway:D |
30a continuous per pole |
I blame your soldering |
Dosnt look like it weted enough |
Plenty of tread on those, They’re just dusty right? Maybe throw some tubeless sealant in the tubes like orangeseals or stans |
Yeah, I have a ways to go before I replace the tires. I'm considering tubeless sealant, popped my tire 3 times a few weeks ago lol. All very small punchures like the picture |
Yeah just grab some sealant. You’ll lose a bit of pressure when something pokes a hole, but generally it won’t be ride stopping loss of air pressure |
Yea the wire is needed to heatsink the contact lol |
Gah |
Two phases melted and one uncrimped itself |
fuck sake |
I'm going to splice them together now |
Just get one of these. /s |
Lmao how are you melting phase wires |
Are you using Anderson's or something |
PP30 |
probably fake ones at that |
heh |
and yeah not the wire but the connector |
What size wire going to your connector? |
no idea |
looks like 14 or 12 |
yeaaa... they are only rated 30A and that is only when used with 10ga lol |
You have to derate connectors with smaller wire, because A: the wire will be heating up the connector, and B: the connector generally is the hot point, so it depends on the wire to heatsink it.. that doesn't work very well when the wire is undersized and already smoking hot. |
I solder mine to the wire |
Plus 30A controllers will smoke even genuine 45A rated powerpoles on the phase wires from time to time sooo |
Hu, TIL there are giant powerpoles: https://www.mouser.ca/new/anderson-power-products/anderson-pp75-powerpole-connectors/ |
rofl the contacts alone are $4.22 each in quantity 1 |
lol 120A with 6awg |
Yeah even I know that’s a lie |
You can do that with 120C rated wire |
thats why im wondering if i shuld bother with mt60 or just go straight to xt150 |
35a controller |
You see I thought about mt60 for my phase wires |
Suggests its a 125C plastic used |
As a mid motor user, I’m just letting the stock phase connections do their thing. But I’ve got PP30s with 12ga for my batt-controller |
What middy? |
CSA rated for 70A btw.. |
`Polycarbonate / PBT blend` |
Uh BBSHD |
*googles XT150* |
MT60 *should* work.. |
I need to save some more gas money before doing any more mods… |
https://tenor.com/view/cray-lost-it-gone-mad-going-mad-stressed-gif-5502030 |
I will never use bullet, I don’t care how great they are made |
does it have the letter A printed on them? |
My old wiring chart :0 |
where? |
One of the better ones as it actualyl takes into account insulation type |
swear you took that from me lol |
i dont see an A moulded on this one no |
@Akbar In 2012? |
give me a moment let me find original source |
Oh wait wire uses the needle approach to numbering @Black Moons |
where did I get this pic from then lol |
@Akbar From my webpage Iv posted here a few times? |
Its even missing the background |
I know I’m ducked when 30c is the ambient rating and I need to figure out how that translates to 40c ambient |
ie, how it looks for people who don't have hte rest of my website |
Almost as goog as your wiki |
I think someone copied your webpage |
:Kapp: |
because I found this somewhere else |
Oh yikes |
@Akbar Doubtful, that website has been down for like 6+ years. |
one of the powerpoles wa crimped partially on the insulation |
*shrugs* |
Maybe someone has posted it elsewhere, but I definately was the one who wrote that chart/heading/etc. |
the info is from a website that also replaced it sometime in 2011 and I had to e-mail them to get a copy of the webpage lol |
(though I reformatted the table, and I think added ohms per foot?) |
I like how it's still lower current than some UK domestic wiring ratings |
@Akbar that is really disturbing lol. |
these are like the highest current ratings iv seen that sounded 'sane' and took into account insulation. |
you factored insulation rating but what about if the cable is only single insulated and in free air horizontally with air blowing over it? |
@Akbar thats actually a fucking thing you know. |
yes ik it's in our tables |
there are force air cooled wiring ducts and im like... WHY IS THIS A SPEC |
I’m lost |
Jeez. Reading your chart… I’m derating the best i can, dropping a temp level from 105 for pvc to 90, to try to account for 40c ambient. I think my bikes wired with 12ga from the battery… not Sure. But 14 ga is over my temp limits |
Who the shitballs is hooking up fans to their wiring ducts and hoping that fan doesn't die and cause a house to burn down? |
@Melez Yea, e-bikes commonly use 12ga for 30A, sometimes even up to 40A |
https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-for-that-information-thank-you-info-information-getting-information-gif-15673762 |
also don't you know the armour on armoured cables acts as a heatsink? lol |
Then there's me using funky 10.8awg |
It does help that most wires on an e-bike are actively air cooled |
(And the skinny ass wires outta your motor most likely have some fancy 125c~200c insulation on them) |
.. making it extra fun to put them into a connector with 90c~125c rated plastic! |
250c teflon on mine and the insulation is thin so makes the wire look thinner than it is |
hahah |
I'm using twincore |
you got tardis wires? bigger on the inside? |
For walls |
What the fuck |
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