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[765.20 --> 770.32] annika mainly with some pr and communication stuff um i think one of the reasons that i could actually do |
[770.32 --> 774.80] that is when i started learning programming i thought it was very important to listen to |
[774.80 --> 781.68] you know all kinds of podcasts like yours or um like like the like ruby rogues for instance |
[782.32 --> 788.24] and while listening to such podcasts i would pause every every time that i didn't understand what they |
[788.24 --> 793.44] were talking about or i didn't understand the term um and i would look it up and get familiar with this |
[793.44 --> 798.64] term and i noticed that after a few months you know i have to pause a lot less than i used to do before |
[798.64 --> 804.80] because you just learn along the way um i've done some some talks on learning programming and how you |
[804.80 --> 810.32] can teach programming in a better better way um and this is definitely one of them have them listen to |
[810.32 --> 817.04] as much as they can get their hands on possibly and and have them figure out you know that it's partly |
[817.04 --> 824.80] talk to talk but it's but with while talking the talk you learn a lot yeah i feel like the sooner you |
[824.80 --> 828.72] can just kind of jump in and get your hands dirty so to speak and i think that's what the beauty might be |
[829.44 --> 835.20] for uh the summer of code is that and maybe you can correct me if i'm wrong but it seemed like it |
[835.20 --> 842.72] it seems like it's pretty focused on um obviously women but um open to to everyone not just not just |
[842.72 --> 848.72] women but you know as you said before annika it's the the lens is focused on women but open to all but |
[848.72 --> 854.80] um mostly on those that are coming in fresh coming in new probably even coming with some inhibitions |
[854.80 --> 861.52] about you know can i do it is it possible you know all these other intimidations i think you know |
[861.52 --> 867.68] the deep unknown kind of gives us but um would you say that rails girls summer code is mainly focused at |
[868.56 --> 875.52] beginners or intermediate what what level are you really is is the aim um well as a beginner it's |
[875.52 --> 881.84] probably a little bit too hard uh to actually contribute to an existing open source project |
[881.84 --> 889.36] or or to actually kick off your own so we recommend that you've been learning around like six months at |
[889.36 --> 896.48] least programming so like um for example if you have joined the right first beginner workshop and then |
[896.48 --> 904.32] just like started your study group and met um every week or whatever and and just kept on learning |
[904.32 --> 910.72] because that's that's a little bit that's like the important thing that you never let go and that |
[910.72 --> 916.32] you are a little bit familiar with the structures of whatever language you want to program in let's |
[916.32 --> 924.48] say it's probably ruby so that you are familiar with um with the basic things and maybe already know how |
[924.48 --> 931.76] to use git and stuff so yeah so that's probably the the basic uh level we're looking at of course |
[931.76 --> 940.56] uh we we're happy to make exceptions if there are some other criteria that are met and yeah then it |
[940.56 --> 948.96] goes up for the level i think we have this year some computer science students um who have been studying |
[948.96 --> 956.88] computer science for some time but haven't been able to get into open source or um yeah it actually means |
[956.88 --> 963.28] different things like studying computer science doesn't mean you're actually programming because |
[963.28 --> 970.48] it looks so different um from from i don't know country to country or even from city to city to university |
[970.96 --> 977.44] what you're actually learning in your university and for uh one story i like i like very much is |
[977.44 --> 984.08] about that woman who said yeah okay i study computer science but um only since rails girls i really have |
[984.08 --> 992.48] fun at it and i understand it and i am i dare to ask questions and um yeah so um we have a lot of |
[992.48 --> 999.68] levels uh that that people can jump in and raise course of course but yeah probably a total beginner will have |
[999.68 --> 1007.84] probably a hard time doing three months full-time coding so some some uh i guess community involvement |
[1007.84 --> 1014.72] either watching doing uh observing something will definitely help let's let's maybe um |
[1016.16 --> 1021.76] i want to mention this too just for those who maybe come into this conversation uh maybe behind the |
[1021.76 --> 1029.68] curve a little bit so you've got rails girls which is a a meet and and i'm just uh going based on the |
[1029.68 --> 1036.56] the details here on the page but it's it's uh worldwide meetups in in your local cities that are |
[1036.56 --> 1045.12] focused on helping women learn ruby on rails um educational meetups events all all that but |
[1045.12 --> 1051.20] on top of that you have rails girl summer co which is this summertime thing that essentially i think |
[1051.20 --> 1054.96] last year it might have been a little different but this year you've got 20 students coming in |
[1054.96 --> 1061.44] totally focusing on open source and essentially spending three months living and breathing ruby on |
[1061.44 --> 1065.52] rails in open source is that about sum up what summer code is all about |
[1065.52 --> 1076.88] um i think it's not um if somebody wants to uh program in in java or uh php that that that depends on |
[1076.88 --> 1083.44] the project um but uh i'm not sure i think this year we'll probably have a lot of ruby on rails |
[1083.92 --> 1089.76] projects as well but yeah that's uh that's pretty much what vice customer of code is about so just from |
[1089.76 --> 1094.16] the name i assumed it would be like people trying to contribute back to the you know ruby on rails |
[1094.16 --> 1098.40] framework but it sounds like it's just any open source that you want to that you want to do you |
[1098.40 --> 1104.48] pitch it uh do you have to have a specific goal in mind how do you actually do the whole three-month |
[1104.48 --> 1114.96] process um as a student yeah as a student okay uh well you have to apply and and we have some we ask a lot of |
[1114.96 --> 1123.44] mentors or people who have open source projects okay um to um to collect these ideas and proposals in a |
[1123.44 --> 1131.92] in a repository and so to give the students an idea of what they can contribute to and a lot of students |
[1131.92 --> 1138.16] have um own ideas of what they want to build and of course it depends on their on their skill level if |
[1138.16 --> 1144.00] they uh if they can if they're able to do this and if they have the support of coaches and mentors |
[1144.00 --> 1150.48] to actually pull this off but um yeah so one story would be you look at the repository then you find |
[1150.48 --> 1157.28] oh wow bundler sounds nice i want to contribute to that and then you get in touch with a with a mentor |
[1157.28 --> 1162.48] who proposed this and he will help you or she will help you very good annika |
[1162.48 --> 1168.24] figure out a project floor keeping it straight |
[1171.52 --> 1178.32] yeah you learn something while talking about it so um yes so you would actually then um |
[1179.28 --> 1185.44] work out the project plan what your goals would be um in these three months and since you have to apply |
[1186.08 --> 1190.72] two months before the program starts or even two and a half months for some project that means that |
[1190.72 --> 1197.12] they actually changed a lot for some newer projects or something so sometimes you can't predict anything |
[1197.12 --> 1202.72] but uh to give just a structure on on what your plans would be and what your goals and it's really |
[1202.72 --> 1208.24] essential that you work together with a mentor who's actually running this project because um they know |
[1208.24 --> 1216.32] this uh and can actually see what is needed what would be a contribution to the community what would be the |
[1216.32 --> 1223.44] best thing to work on so rails girls is a global movement but it's all local workshops and meetups |
[1223.44 --> 1230.16] um is rails girls summer of code completely online or is there a locality to it to fly off to a far |
[1230.16 --> 1237.28] away location and code or are you just involved online that'd be cool um that would be really cool i just had |
[1237.28 --> 1246.08] the image of iceland in my yeah no um it's international uh so anybody can apply actually |
[1246.08 --> 1252.00] uh a lot of organizers are berlin located so that was where the confusion last year came from if it |
[1252.00 --> 1258.08] was a berlin program or whatever but we had students and teams from all over the world last year and this |
[1258.08 --> 1266.64] year so we're just asking that you that you find local support wherever you are as much as you can because |
[1266.64 --> 1276.48] um like being a newcomer to open source and working remotely with uh with coaches or pairs might be a |
[1276.48 --> 1283.44] harsh situation so uh we found it's it's best if you have a strong local support like with the |
[1283.44 --> 1288.64] companies for example like we have this year we have companies that said yeah sure you can work here and |
[1288.64 --> 1295.36] we actually have some coaches you can ping all the time and and that's nice and that's that's super cool and |
[1295.36 --> 1302.48] that uh that worked last year really well with soundcloud and this year we have uh for example six wonder |
[1302.48 --> 1309.84] kinder six wonder can i don't know how to say it in english the people that make wonderlist |
[1311.20 --> 1320.40] exactly thank you uh for example or rebased in in poland or um yeah some other amazing companies |
[1320.40 --> 1328.32] that help the students um have a local structure i think last year i'm sorry go ahead go ahead |
[1328.32 --> 1332.72] floor i think last year and and this year we had the same sort of confusion that there were some people |
[1332.72 --> 1338.32] from australia that would love to join but we're confused by the name because for them it's not summer |
[1339.68 --> 1345.44] yes oh and it's it's not only australia right there's some other continent where they said yeah it's |
[1345.44 --> 1350.40] pretty cold right here i don't think i'll ask i ever get summer just uh speaking for a u.s state |
[1350.40 --> 1355.20] that's not actually in the continental u.s right i don't think it's ever summer there and when it is |
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[1427.92 --> 1435.60] um i i am noticing though a short while back i'm still kind of keeping up with some recent events but |
[1435.60 --> 1442.24] just a few days ago you you mentioned on the rails girl summer code blog that there you're announced the |
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