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[4070.56 --> 4076.08] i'm looking forward to this uh and i guess the last one is uh if you weren't |
[4076.08 --> 4081.44] i guess running travis foundation and and leading that or if you weren't organizing rails |
[4081.44 --> 4087.12] girls summer code or participating uh we'll let you go one at a time but what would you be doing if |
[4087.12 --> 4092.72] you weren't writing ruby or or doing the organization of these awesome efforts annika we'll let you go |
[4092.72 --> 4098.80] first like for money what would i do for money yeah like well i guess you know what would you |
[4099.68 --> 4103.36] yeah if you weren't doing that what else would you be doing like would you be your you study |
[4103.36 --> 4110.16] lingu you study linguistics and um looking back at your profile how do you say that linguistics and |
[4110.16 --> 4116.40] gender studies so i'd imagine probably something in that range right or maybe not uh yeah maybe not |
[4116.40 --> 4121.36] because when i finished studying gender studies i said oh no way i'm gonna work in this field |
[4121.92 --> 4129.60] because it's just too harsh no um yeah i would probably be writing a lot and um and and doing doing |
[4129.60 --> 4136.16] my own thing my i've been dreaming about starting a co-working space uh forever and have a little |
[4136.16 --> 4142.56] cafe there so that's probably where i would be you and i should talk because i've had a similar desire |
[4142.56 --> 4148.08] but i'm not in a place where that would be possible so i just had a dream as well oh okay yeah let's |
[4148.08 --> 4152.08] talk i actually wanted to make it a cop well i mean that's kind of cliche though right coffee shop |
[4152.08 --> 4156.64] and co-working space it's been done before but i kind of wanted to put a little twist on it and |
[4156.64 --> 4161.68] i got a feeling that dan benjamin is one day going to take this idea and run with it and do it better |
[4161.68 --> 4166.32] than i'll ever do it but here's the idea is that i want to say it out loud yeah don't share |
[4168.24 --> 4172.08] you should start a secret club and then we'll make some great co-working space |
[4172.08 --> 4177.52] i shouldn't tell anybody you want to know tell us the twist after we after we stop the call okay |
[4177.52 --> 4182.80] fine i'll tell the callers only if you're listening to this and you absolutely have to know just email me |
[4182.80 --> 4187.12] adam at changelog.com so everybody's really frustrated |
[4188.16 --> 4194.00] he's gonna say it but he's not gonna do it man uh what about you flor what if you weren't writing ruby |
[4194.00 --> 4199.52] if you weren't uh attending all the conferences and coaching and organizing all that you do what would |
[4199.52 --> 4206.48] you be doing if you weren't doing that so um actually i graduated as um as a graphics designer at |
[4206.48 --> 4212.40] art school in in the nilands and then i changed um to doing a lot of sort of community management work |
[4212.40 --> 4218.24] and then i changed to becoming a programmer i think i have enough changes in my life so far |
[4218.24 --> 4223.52] and i'm still getting used to this whole you know uh programming and doing a lot for the developer |
[4223.52 --> 4231.20] community and which i enjoy a lot um i also really found my way um in this whole tech world uh writing |
[4231.20 --> 4237.20] technical documentation i love doing this i love writing issues people think i'm crazy for this but i |
[4237.20 --> 4242.48] really love doing doing all documentation stuff so um i think i actually found my place already |
[4244.08 --> 4248.72] nice so you're doing what you would be doing then so if you weren't doing this you would be trying to |
[4248.72 --> 4256.40] find a way to do what you're doing i'd be crying all the time well at least you're honest that is cool |
[4256.40 --> 4262.16] yeah you know writing docs and issues are not my forte i don't mind doing them when i have to but |
[4262.16 --> 4266.96] i do have to commend you on having a passion for that because that's that's unique now you can |
[4266.96 --> 4274.00] always ping floor if you don't yeah totally why don't i speak for the entire team here at the |
[4274.00 --> 4278.64] changelog when i say that it's been a pleasure to have you both on the show this week the work you're |
[4278.64 --> 4284.80] doing is super important and uh rails grow summer code travis foundation we want to be a part of that |
[4284.80 --> 4290.08] future so we want to support you however we can uh this year next year in the years to come so |
[4290.08 --> 4296.00] whatever we can ever do to support you in in both of those missions or even personally just just let |
[4296.00 --> 4301.44] us know reach out you have a friend now um and and i also want to give a shout out to our sponsors |
[4301.44 --> 4310.40] uh the the sponsors of the show are ninefold code ship and top towel and uh we love their support they're |
[4310.40 --> 4316.32] absolutely great to us code ship and top to happen to be partners as well as sponsors and that means that |
[4316.32 --> 4321.68] they're uh supporting us in the long term they're investing in the future of the change law to make |
[4321.68 --> 4326.40] sure that we're always here um doing the work we're doing to support open source and we thank them for |
[4326.40 --> 4332.00] that ninefold we hope to have as a partner in the future as well um we'll hope that uh that to come |
[4332.00 --> 4336.40] but they're awesome companies we absolutely love their support uh and couldn't uh couldn't do this |
[4336.40 --> 4343.20] without them so um we do have an awesome show lined up next week chad whitaker the founder of get up is |
[4343.20 --> 4349.20] going to be on the show uh should be a fantastic conversation if you're not using get up or uh or |
[4349.20 --> 4354.72] whatnot to to kind of crowd fund your work in open source or whatever you're you're doing the people |
[4354.72 --> 4361.52] you inspire get up.com is uh is a cool thing so next week tune into that until then let's say goodbye |
[4361.52 --> 4375.52] goodbye bye bye |
• Introduction to Postmodern and his background in security research and development |
• Discussion of the pronunciation of "chroot" and "ch ruby" |
• Overview of Postmodern's projects, including ch ruby, ruby install, and ronin |
• Explanation of ch ruby and its purpose (managing multiple ruby versions on a system) |
• Mention of other ruby version managers, such as rvm, rbm, and chruby |
• Discussion of Postmodern's experience with rvm and his decision to create ch ruby |
• Problems with RVM |
• Criticism of RVM's bash scripts and platform-specific issues |
• RVM's installation limitations and the need for global rubies |
• Research into alternative Ruby switchers, including rbm |
• Comparison and evaluation of rbm and other Ruby switchers |
• Decision to create a new Ruby switcher with specific requirements |
• Issues with rbm's implementation and syntax |
• Ruby switchers and custom gem directories |
• RVM limitations and annoyances (patch-level specific gem directories, etc.) |
• Designing a new ruby switcher (ChRuby) to address RVM's issues |
• Comparison to RVM and other ruby environment managers (rbm, etc.) |
• Plans for ChRuby's future development and features |
• Discussion of rvm2's scope and goals (integrating with package managers, etc.) |
• Sponsor announcement for Code Chip, a hosted continuous deployment service |
• Discussion of Ruby Build and its use for installing Rubies |
• Creation and design of Chruby, a tool for switching between Rubies |
• Critique of Ruby Build's design and behavior |
• Introduction to Ruby Install and its similarities to Ruby Build |
• Comparison of Chruby with other tools like RVM and Ruby Install |
• Discussion of package managers and dynamic linking in Ruby |
• Design goals and principles of Chruby for multi-system and multi-package manager support |
• The project's maintainer discusses the project's longevity and regular releases. |
• ChRuby is mentioned as a comparison to other Ruby switchers, with a small codebase (90 lines) and low maintenance needs. |
• The maintainer discusses the importance of keeping the project small and simple, aiming for a 100-line core. |
• The role of auto-switching and its implementation in a separate file is mentioned. |
• The maintainer shares their experience with testing and unit testing shell scripts, and how it helps catch bugs and improve the project. |
• The conversation touches on the complexities and edge cases of shell scripting, including implementation differences between shells. |
• The importance of using unit tests and pull requests to collaborate and discuss implementation details is emphasized. |
• Test and rewrite of the 1819.10-1823.54 test |
• Importance of style and safety in shell scripting |
• Contributing to open-source projects, including ch ruby |
• Maintaining a low profile and avoiding cult of personality |
• Giving credits to contributors and acknowledging the role of casual contributors |
• Development of a generic make file for shell scripts |
• Importance of small fixes and contributions in open-source projects |
• The speaker's experience with releasing code and the importance of being meticulous |
• Ronin, a project created to make security research easier with Ruby, and its features |
• The evolution of the Ruby community and tools, including the transition from Ruby Forge to Ruby Gems |
• The challenges of keeping up with rapid changes in the Ruby community and the need to simplify and streamline processes |
• Development challenges with Ruby and related tools (e.g. rvm, rbm, bundler) |
• Creator's dissatisfaction with current gem set approaches (e.g. rvm, bundler) |
• Introduction of ch gems as a gem set replacement tool |
• ch gems' approach of explicit project entry and isolation |
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