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[3851.22 --> 3858.22] When's the last time you had an opportunity to game on your notebook and you didn't just go to the extra effort to go find a mouse.
[3858.22 --> 3861.22] Gaming on a touch pad is terrible.
[3861.22 --> 3862.22] Yeah.
[3862.22 --> 3864.22] But then like, oh, I don't know.
[3864.22 --> 3865.22] It's terrible.
[3865.22 --> 3866.22] Yeah, it is.
[3866.22 --> 3867.22] It's terrible.
[3867.22 --> 3872.22] The only reason why I always use the Civ 5 one is like, I could also say XCOM.
[3872.22 --> 3873.22] The new XCOM game.
[3873.22 --> 3874.22] Okay.
[3874.22 --> 3876.22] You could probably do it fairly easily with a touch pad.
[3876.22 --> 3877.22] But you know what?
[3877.22 --> 3880.22] I guarantee it works great with anything that isn't a touch pad as well.
[3880.22 --> 3882.22] Because that's just how that game is set up.
[3882.22 --> 3883.22] Right.
[3883.22 --> 3887.22] Um, so Civ is really the champion for this controller.
[3887.22 --> 3889.22] But yeah, I don't know.
[3889.22 --> 3890.22] I don't care.
[3890.22 --> 3894.22] I mean, I'm going to play Civ on my desktop because I'm going to be playing with other people.
[3894.22 --> 3898.22] And then it's going to go so slow that I'm going to tab out in between turns anyways.
[3898.22 --> 3900.22] Um, so like, so I can do other things.
[3900.22 --> 3902.22] So I don't really see it being that big of a deal.
[3902.22 --> 3907.22] Given Valve's openness, what I would like to see, because I've held the controller ergonomically.
[3907.22 --> 3911.22] I don't, I don't have, you know, a ton of complaints about it.
[3911.22 --> 3917.22] Um, I would like to see someone just adopt their design and get rid of the touch pads and throw, like, joysticks in there.
[3917.22 --> 3922.22] Because if you were to do that and put a proper D-pad on it, then all of a sudden, now we've got some buttons on the back.
[3922.22 --> 3929.22] You just changed everything except for the buttons on the back, the thing that goes in your palm, and the ABXY buttons.
[3929.22 --> 3934.22] Or we could all just go back to using SNES controllers because they're clearly superior to everything else.
[3934.22 --> 3935.22] Xbox 360.
[3935.22 --> 3938.22] Xbox 360 is okay, but the D-pad is terrible!
[3938.22 --> 3939.22] Yeah, but you've got thumbsticks.
[3939.22 --> 3942.22] You've got thumbsticks, but that's not great for platforming.
[3942.22 --> 3943.22] For platforming.
[3943.22 --> 3944.22] Because that's all you want to do.
[3944.22 --> 3945.22] You know what? Screw you!
[3945.22 --> 3950.22] I like platforming. No, I play platformers all the time. I'm just saying, that's all you want to do.
[3950.22 --> 3952.22] That's literally the only reason why you care.
[3952.22 --> 3955.22] I also still use a D-pad for other stuff.
[3955.22 --> 3956.22] And, okay.
[3956.22 --> 3965.22] And like, you know what? Okay, the shield I just traded you, has kind of a crappy A button.
[3965.22 --> 3967.22] Like, it kind of sticks a bit. Did you notice already?
[3967.22 --> 3968.22] Yeah, a little bit. But it's like...
[3968.22 --> 3969.22] It's not that bad.
[3969.22 --> 3970.22] Yeah, I know.
[3970.22 --> 3972.22] But it has a better D-pad than mine.
[3972.22 --> 3974.22] It's... I like the D-pad.
[3974.22 --> 3976.22] The D-pad's okay. Mine's very clicky.
[3976.22 --> 3980.22] I haven't played with it a lot yet. I only played one game and for not very long.
[3980.22 --> 3982.22] Have you tried using GameStream on it yet?
[3982.22 --> 3983.22] Yes.
[3983.22 --> 3986.22] Oh, but your wireless is terrible in your place, isn't it?
[3986.22 --> 3987.22] Um...
[3987.22 --> 3989.22] Yes, but I did it upstairs.
[3989.22 --> 3992.22] There's a D-Link router in my car.
[3992.22 --> 3993.22] I did it like...
[3993.22 --> 3994.22] It's an AC dual band router.
[3994.22 --> 3995.22] I did it close to the router.
[3995.22 --> 3996.22] Right.
[3996.22 --> 3997.22] When I was doing actual GameStream.
[3997.22 --> 4000.22] And then I ended up just watching a movie on it off my nest.
[4000.22 --> 4001.22] Right.
[4001.22 --> 4002.22] Because I was like, this makes sense.
[4002.22 --> 4003.22] Yep.
[4003.22 --> 4004.22] You know what's funny?
[4004.22 --> 4008.22] The funny thing about Shield is I think people didn't understand what it was.
[4008.22 --> 4010.22] And I think that's a lot of the hate.
[4010.22 --> 4012.22] People were like, it's a game console.
[4012.22 --> 4013.22] And that's what Nvidia's pushing.
[4013.22 --> 4014.22] But I actually disagree.
[4014.22 --> 4015.22] Yeah.
[4015.22 --> 4018.22] Um, and then people were like, oh, I'd rather game on my phone.
[4018.22 --> 4019.22] And I went, well, no, this isn't a phone.
[4019.22 --> 4020.22] No.
[4020.22 --> 4021.22] It's a tablet.
[4021.22 --> 4022.22] That's what it is.
[4022.22 --> 4024.22] It's a small tablet.
[4024.22 --> 4027.22] And what makes it a tablet is not the size of the screen.
[4027.22 --> 4032.22] What makes it a tablet is the way that it comes with a stand in it.
[4032.22 --> 4034.22] That's the funny thing to me about it.
[4034.22 --> 4040.22] The reason I completely stopped using my iPad and started using my Shield for everything.
[4040.22 --> 4042.22] I used to use my iPad all the time, almost every day.
[4042.22 --> 4045.22] Now I use my Shield almost every day.
[4045.22 --> 4052.22] It's because it sits on this controller thing that I can put it next to the bath.
[4052.22 --> 4055.22] Or if I'm cooking, it's always got a stand on it.
[4055.22 --> 4060.22] And how you can integrate, like, I haven't been a huge push of Shield before, but now
[4060.22 --> 4063.22] I've actually had some extended use with it, which is really nice.
[4063.22 --> 4068.22] Um, how they actually integrated using like D-pad and ABXY buttons in the OS.
[4068.22 --> 4069.22] Yes.
[4069.22 --> 4070.22] Is freakishly good.
[4070.22 --> 4071.22] Yeah, it's really good.
[4071.22 --> 4074.22] Like I assumed it was going to be terrible and I was just going to be touching everything.
[4074.22 --> 4075.22] No.
[4075.22 --> 4076.22] And I started that way.
[4076.22 --> 4080.22] And then I just like instinctively pressed B and was like, what?
[4080.22 --> 4081.22] That works?
[4081.22 --> 4083.22] Yeah, no, it's, the UI is really good.
[4083.22 --> 4084.22] And it's, to me it's a tablet.
[4084.22 --> 4085.22] It has great speakers.
[4085.22 --> 4086.22] I can see that.
[4086.22 --> 4087.22] So it's great for content watching.