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[713.00 --> 713.74] for the DSL
[713.74 --> 714.50] is documentation.
[715.02 --> 716.40] There's also a JavaScript client
[716.40 --> 717.32] that you can generate
[717.32 --> 718.68] from that DSL.
[719.16 --> 720.26] And in the future,
[720.60 --> 721.60] there can be plugins
[721.60 --> 722.60] written to generate
[722.60 --> 723.98] clients in other languages.
[724.50 --> 724.92] And so,
[725.92 --> 726.66] the language
[726.66 --> 728.34] has to be agnostic,
[728.62 --> 728.74] right?
[728.76 --> 729.54] It has to remain
[729.54 --> 731.44] independent of any target
[731.44 --> 732.30] that it generates.
[732.58 --> 733.20] And sure,
[733.30 --> 734.04] Go is the main target
[734.04 --> 734.48] for sure,
[734.86 --> 735.68] but still,
[735.80 --> 736.12] the language
[736.12 --> 737.10] should try to remain
[737.10 --> 738.36] as agnostic as possible.
[739.16 --> 739.62] Right.
[739.72 --> 739.86] So,
[739.86 --> 740.98] people just need
[740.98 --> 741.82] to disconnect
[741.82 --> 742.54] a little better,
[742.62 --> 742.80] right?
[742.88 --> 743.60] It's kind of like
[743.60 --> 744.30] GRPC,
[744.60 --> 744.80] right?
[745.34 --> 746.58] The DSL
[746.58 --> 747.06] is essentially
[747.06 --> 747.94] the protobufs,
[747.98 --> 748.16] right?
[748.26 --> 749.10] And then the generator
[749.10 --> 750.12] generates from that.
[750.66 --> 751.68] Yours just happens to be.
[752.36 --> 752.76] So,
[752.92 --> 753.08] yeah.
[753.48 --> 753.66] Yeah.
[754.20 --> 754.42] Yeah,
[754.46 --> 755.06] it's like,
[755.20 --> 756.10] if you write Swagger,
[756.30 --> 758.36] then it's completely
[758.36 --> 759.00] different from your
[759.00 --> 759.56] programming language.
[759.66 --> 760.24] It's the same idea.
[760.44 --> 760.56] Yeah.
[761.44 --> 761.98] Well,
[762.02 --> 762.86] that leads me to the
[762.86 --> 763.86] second thing that I
[763.86 --> 764.64] noticed about Goa,
[764.70 --> 765.26] which was the
[765.26 --> 766.58] approachability of the DSL.
[767.34 --> 767.90] And I've seen
[767.90 --> 769.62] many DSLs in the past,
[769.82 --> 770.06] you know,
[770.06 --> 771.18] being a former Ruby
[771.18 --> 771.64] developer,
[771.88 --> 772.02] it's,
[772.16 --> 772.28] you know,
[772.28 --> 773.18] everything we did in Ruby
[773.18 --> 774.30] was a DSL in one way
[774.30 --> 774.62] or another.
[775.08 --> 775.48] So,
[775.86 --> 776.92] seeing a DSL in Go
[776.92 --> 777.86] that was approachable
[777.86 --> 778.50] and understandable
[778.50 --> 779.38] was really surprising
[779.38 --> 779.70] for me.
[779.78 --> 780.94] I had seen
[780.94 --> 782.64] the test frameworks,
[782.92 --> 783.68] which one is it?
[784.38 --> 784.82] Ginkgo?
[785.02 --> 785.38] GoMega?
[785.50 --> 785.60] Yeah.
[785.60 --> 785.94] One of those?
[786.58 --> 787.74] That uses a similar
[787.74 --> 788.26] approach.
[788.26 --> 789.56] And it still just
[789.56 --> 790.20] didn't really click
[790.20 --> 791.14] with me until I
[791.14 --> 791.72] played with Goa.
[791.78 --> 792.84] And I really enjoyed
[792.84 --> 796.10] the readability factor
[796.10 --> 797.86] of the DSL in Goa.
[798.68 --> 799.34] Thank you.
[799.44 --> 799.62] Yeah.
[799.88 --> 800.92] That took a while
[800.92 --> 801.54] to get right.
[801.54 --> 802.00] And actually,
[802.32 --> 803.26] it's funny you mentioned
[803.26 --> 804.20] Ginkgo and GoMega
[804.20 --> 805.06] because they were
[805.06 --> 806.70] definitely big inspiration
[806.70 --> 808.52] for the Goa DSL.
[809.32 --> 809.54] You know,
[809.60 --> 809.86] I went through