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**Bill Kennedy:** Yeah, I don't think anybody has downvoted that at all, so I'm sure it's just gonna happen, and it should. |
**Erik St. Martin:** It should. |
**Bill Kennedy:** Quickly. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah. And it's going to be better for the community to have real and consistent moderation there. |
**Bill Kennedy:** Yeah, I walked away earlier this year from Reddit. It was such poison to me that I didn't even -- if I've looked at it even five times this year, that's a lot. Knowing Damian's going to be the top moderator, I'll definitely come back and start looking at it again. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah. It's good, because Reddit is actually very good. There are some interesting posts... I mean, the posts that are popping there, we see them everywhere, but there are some interesting discussions. Every once in a while it runs amok, but it's pretty good otherwise. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Keith, how do you keep up with what's going on in the community? Are you mostly heads down, or do you kind of watch for projects that are coming out that interest you? |
**Keith Randall:** I basically read Go Nuts, and that's about as much community involvement as I can take. \[laughter\] I sort of watch the project closely and I watch Go Nuts, and that's sort of where I get my information about what's going on in the community from. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I think I'm in too many of them, and then I end up not keeping up with any of them. But it works out, because I think everybody else curates it, so I only hear about the good stuff. |
**Bill Kennedy:** Keith, what office do you work out of, and where are you based out of? |
**Keith Randall:** I'm in Mountain View at the main Google campus. |
**Bill Kennedy:** Gotcha. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, it seems like there's a couple different places... I heard that the New York office actually has more people working on the Go team than Mountain View does. |
**Keith Randall:** That may be true now, yeah. It's about equal. I think we have 12-13 people here, and there's a similar number in New York, and then a couple people in Boston. |
**Bill Kennedy:** And Brad's in Seattle now, right? |
**Keith Randall:** Yeah, Brad's in Seattle. We have one guy in Switzerland and one guy in Pittsburgh. There's a couple other scattered people. |
**Erik St. Martin:** And these are the people who are actually Google employees that are full-time; that's not including all the people who work for other companies who are basically being paid to work on Go. |
**Keith Randall:** Exactly. Yeah, that's only the Google employees. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I love that that's a thing now, too. You can work for a company that basically just sponsors you to work on a project that means something to them, right? |
**Keith Randall:** Yeah, and that's open source. That's not something that there's directly a competitive advantage thing with; they just wanna make the ecosystem better, and that's great. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, we're seeing it a lot with Kubernetes now, too. There's a lot of big companies that just basically have engineers on their staff that are full-time working on Kubernetes, and being paid by Intel or Red Hat or various other companies that are contributing back. |
**Bill Kennedy:** Erik, you got paid basically to fix a bug in Kubernetes too, right? Because Comcast needed it... |
**Erik St. Martin:** In Docker, yeah. |
**Bill Kennedy:** Oh, in Docker. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I wouldn't necessarily call it a bug... |
**Bill Kennedy:** An enhancement. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Basically the real-time thread support, we had an issue with running a real-time priority process in Docker, and that was really the way group scheduling works. Basically Docker creates a new C group, C group gets zero real-time runtime, the process inside the container cannot upgrade its priority.... |
**Keith Randall:** Right. |
**Erik St. Martin:** But yeah, to Bill's point, it's kind of cool that they're like, "Why don't you fix it?" It's like, "Well, that works..." |
**Keith Randall:** \[47:51\] Yeah, exactly. It's a great thing about open source stuff - the things that people care about, they can fix themselves, they don't have to wait for someone on high to fix it for them. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, I prefer PRs over bug reports, too. I try to encourage that, because I think people should all try to approach the solution, because sometimes a solution si better than no solution. |
A lot of people will refrain from contributing, and this kind of goes back to Michael's talk and the posts on the Advent series, with the contributing - a lot of people won't contribute out of fear that it's not a good enough solution to be taken in by some big name project, and they won't contribute at all, and then t... |
I'm sure there's specific language features that nobody's gonna pull in some gnarly code for, but for most people's bug fixes... They're usually fairly trivial, and they're not gonna introduce a lot of problems for the rest of the codebase. |
**Keith Randall:** Yeah, and even if they're not perfect patches and they have problems, they often spur dialogue or spur someone to think harder about the problem, and end up pointing the way to a solution if not being the solution themselves. |
**Erik St. Martin:** So does anybody have any other interesting news or projects they wanna talk about, or do we wanna move into \#FreeSoftwareFriday? |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I don't. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I've been traveling a lot this week, so I've been kind of \[unintelligible 00:49:30.27\] How about you, Bill? |
**Bill Kennedy:** On my Twitter feed I think Daniel Whitenack, who gave that talk on Data Science at GopherCon, he has at least two or three packages a week around data science that he's publishing. Gonum is the big one right now; that repo, github.com/gonum has got a ton of stuff in it. |
Daniel shared this week another repo called go-hep, which is High-Energy Physics community stuff. It's amazing to see the communities that are coming in, that I guess were kind of exclusively Python at some point; now, going full throttle into Go. That's really exciting. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Allow me to correct you, Bill, just a little bit. It's not a repo, it's a whole organization, and it's got a bunch of projects, very interesting. |
**Bill Kennedy:** Yeah, that's what I meant. Thank you. |
**Erik St. Martin:** That is a whole industry I know nothing about, physics. But yeah, it's so awesome to see all of this stuff come in. There's a lot more data science stuff, there's a lot more math stuff being done in Go, and that's awesome. And InfoSec stuff too, I've been seeing a lot more of that to start being wr... |
**Bill Kennedy:** Another thing that was interesting is my business partner, Ed Gonzalez, he got stuck this week on the floating point stuff, trying to compare two floating points that should have been identical but were different because of binary decimals; he found a package from ShopSpring called Decimal, which he's... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Oh, interesting. And how about you, Carlisia? |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I ran into a project - I have not used it before, but it looks really cool. It was here in this document, but it was also in this Brazilian newsletter about Go called The Week In Go. It is the JSON Incremental Digger (JID). Basically, you install it with Homebrew and you can navigate a JSON file ... |
**Erik St. Martin:** \[52:03\] Yeah, that's really cool. Have you seen this, Keith? You basically can give it JSON, and then you can kind of use JavaScript notation to traverse and dig down into the JSON file, and it has autocomplete of the properties, too. |
**Keith Randall:** Interesting, I haven't seen it. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Drop the link in the Slack channel too, for anybody who's in there. It's super cool to be able to do that. |
**Keith Randall:** Yeah, especially when you JSON gets large and it's really hard to... They tend to format as giant blobs that are hard to parse because they're all nested, and so on. It'd be nice to have a way to see just the parse you care about. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah, that's exactly what I thought. If you have a very long JSON, you can start up like, "Give me the counts" for whatever place in the tree or adds, and just get an idea of how many items there are. |
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