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**Brian Ketelsen:** Right. Everybody who doesn't do that... |
**Erik St. Martin:** ...and happen to be online when we tweet. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Exactly. |
**Erik St. Martin:** So kind of speaking of the community efforts in your talk, Cory, that was the primary focus of your talk - community and getting people engaged, and advocating that people help where they can, and that they don't need to be an expert. We'd love to chat with you a bit about that as well. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Can I interrupt, Erik? I'd like to point out that Cory walks the walk when it comes to helping out where you can. And when we decided that we were gonna do GopherCon, he didn't ask to contribute pull requests, he asked if he could host things for us. He asked if it would be okay if we shipped all of... |
**Cory LaNou:** I'm not even sure what to say to that. For me it was a privilege, that's all it was for me. I look at all that kind of stuff, any time you can help out I think that's a privilege, so it was my honor to do it, and it was super exciting to see an event like that come off. It takes a ton of effort, so bein... |
**Erik St. Martin:** So how would you recommend people get involved? |
**Cory LaNou:** What I always tell people - and again, I covered this I hope really heavily in my presentation in India and Dubai - is what a lot of people think of when they want to get involved in a local community, the big problem is there's not a local community for a lot of areas yet. Go is still kind of an up-and... |
**Erik St. Martin:** It's interesting that you point that out... Just kind of as an example, we started Go Tampa, because we didn't have a local meetup group, and we put together - it was either one or two, and then we got slammed because, just like you, Cory, we love to put more on our plate than we can handle. So we ... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Reaching out for help is very important, and I put out a challenge to everybody if you are interested or have this thought - just reach out and ask for help, if that's what's keeping you. Cory for sure, he has a ton of time, he will help you. \[laughter\] And I'll help... |
**Cory LaNou:** I will definitely help. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** ...with what I can. And I wanted to cite an example: I started the Gopher San Diego meetup in the North County of San Diego, and there was one in downtown. And what happened just organically was that we came together as a group. My company is supportive, so I get that support, so we came together... |
We are basically one group, we spread the word, we spread the meetups over two months, so I only have to host one every two months. So people come together and figure things out, but if you don't get started, you are not going to find out what kind of help you're gonna get. |
**Erik St. Martin:** So we've covered meetups, but we also have your battle cry from your talk, which was more blog posts, and I think that we have two more that we can add to that: more podcasts and more conferences. I think that that's somewhere too... When Brian and I spoke on the Changelog, which - shameful plug he... |
**Cory LaNou:** I for one would love to do a Midwest conference. I would love to do something either in Chicago or Minneapolis. I've actually gotten pretty involved in Minneapolis recently, and Chicago is a great city, it's huge, so obviously it would be easy to host, but I gotta say, Minneapolis has an amazing tech sc... |
**Erik St. Martin:** And Brian and I are happy to offer advice that we've learned along the way too for anybody who wants to start a conference. There's a little bit more risk involved there just because there tends to be some financial obligations and some big contracts and stuff, but hopefully we can share some knowl... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah, absolutely. We've probably done four or five calls with people across the world about starting a conference in their area. Don't be afraid to reach out and ask for help. There is nothing we love better than to spread the Go love and get more conferences going. So do ask, absolutely. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I just looked up to see if there was a conference channel in the Gopher Slack - there is none. |
**Erik St. Martin:** There is now... \[laughter\] So is there anything else that you would like to advocate, Cory, before we wrap this thing? |
**Cory LaNou:** The only thing that I haven't solved yet for getting communities going more is they're hard to setup, it takes time to get traction. But I would love to see more of the who's who in the Go community get out beyond their demographic, and even if it's an hour away or two hours away, go ahead and volunteer... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Isn't that what they call 'the ground game' in politics? Knocking on doors? |
**Cory LaNou:** \[laughs\] It might be, but this year I'm trying to stay out of politics. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** And even if it's just for the beginning, just be the training wheels for people just for a little while, until they get going, and then you go be the training wheels somewhere else if you can. But even if you can do it once or twice, it's great. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Bill Kennedy has driven from Miami over to Tampa I think twice now, and that's like a four-hour drive, so if he can do a four-hour drive twice, you can do a two-hour drive. |
**Cory LaNou:** Exactly. I mean, I drive to Chicago, that's five and a half hours. I do it gladly. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** That's awesome. That's commitment right there, folks. |
**Erik St. Martin:** So typically the way we close out the show, we like to kind of go through... Brian kind of triggered off this \#FreeSoftwareFriday on Twitter a while back, and I think we all kind of fell in love with the idea of that. It's not always financial for people, just hearing 'thank you' from people who b... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I absolutely have a big one this week. GopherJS. If anybody follows me on Twitter, you know I have this hate/hate relationship with frontend development, and GopherJS has been eye-opening for me over this last week or two. I didn't realize that it didn't have to be JavaScript on the frontend, it cou... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Carlisia, how about you? |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I came across this neat little tool called Haxor News. It's a command line tool that you can use to access Hacker News. I think it's really cool because first of all I don't ever go to Hacker News - not because I don't like it, but because every time I go I just get lost, because I go from one th... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I'm downloading it now. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah, it's so awesome. And it's got a lot of colors, color-coded, and you can press a number and go and see that particular item more in depth. It's so awesome... |
**Erik St. Martin:** I tend to stay out of the browser so that I can be productive, and you're bringing this unproductive thing to my command line now. \[laughs\] |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I submit that the content is not the problem, it's the browser. The browser that leads you down the rabbit hole, but this is just pure content. No buttons to click, not links to follow, just the content. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Does it ignore the comments? |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yes, exactly. I haven't gotten to see comments, I don't even know if they have comments. I suppose so, but... |
**Erik St. Martin:** I know we're kind of blind siding you with it Cory, but are there any projects or people that you would like to thank in the open source community? |
**Cory LaNou:** For me it's the one I use every single day, and it's Vim Go. I could not live without it. Vim Go is just... If you use Vim and you do Go, you have to use it, it's amazing. Some of the stuff that he's put in there lately has just been unbelievable. I can't tell you how happy I am with the amount of work ... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, I wanna send Fatih a case of beer. |
**Cory LaNou:** Oh, like a semi load. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** He's a huge coffee drinker, so send him coffee. And they just had a baby, so he probably needs more. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Exactly, I was gonna say that. Congrats! |
**Erik St. Martin:** Can we get some donations and we'll just buy him a brewery? \[laughter\] I think that's the level he's at right now. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah, don't forget, all you Vim Go users out there: he has a Patreon at patreon.com/fatih, and it's a great way to thank him for his Vim Go development. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** We'll include it in the show notes, for sure. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah, it's pretty awesome. |
**Erik St. Martin:** And for me it's Kubernetes. I'm in love with Kubernetes. That's what I've been playing with more recently. Anybody who has not played with Kubernetes for container orchestration should. Just way too much fun. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** It's a gamechanger, absolutely. That's a good one. |
**Erik St. Martin:** And with that being said, I think that we are ready to close the doors on this episode, unfortunately. I wish we could talk all day, but we cannot. With that, I'd like to thank everybody for coming on the show. I want to thank everybody who is listening to the show, and everybody who will listen to... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Goodbye. |
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