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**Erik St. Martin:** I'll have to find some, too. Katrina Owen sent a bunch of links and videos and book suggestions on Twitter for public speaking stuff. I'll find those... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I know you're super busy - if you give them to me I'll put it in. She's also on the Women Who Go channel and she has put a bunch of information. She opened a Trello board. Women, we have resources! I wanna get this thing kicked off. I know Cassandra Gil from Iron.io was looking for women to speak... |
**Jessie Frazelle:** \[40:04\] Totally! |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Speaking of women Gophers, that Women Who Go birthday party last week was awesome. |
**Jessie Frazelle:** That was so much fun! |
**Erik St. Martin:** I'm the only one who missed out. I was sitting home with FOMO. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** There were a lot of people I didn't get to talk to, Jessie included. The time just went by so fast. It was awesome. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I feel that way every year at GopherCon. It's like, "Yay, we're here! This is gonna be awesome!" And then it's like we're packing up and leaving. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah, and you missed talking to 1475 of your friends, because you only got time to talk to 20. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Well, I feel bad too, because it was like the first year we dealt with everything individually, but it's grown so big, and during the day jobs, too. I'll look and I'd be like, "There's speakers I didn't actually get to talk to." It's hard now. I wanna try and change that this year. If I don't find ... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** And now I'm just laughing, because we know it's not gonna happen. We're not gonna get to talk to everybody, it's just not gonna happen. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Show up at my door at home if I don't speak to you at the conference. \[laughter\] It'd be kind of hard, I don't think I wanna publicize my address. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I will. Erik lives at... \[laughs\] So another interesting open source project that got an update this week is GoKit, who has a fancy new pretty website, GoKit.io. A very nice website with good, clear explanation of the goals of the project and the details behind each of the packages. A long overdue... |
**Erik St. Martin:** That's awesome. We have to get Peter on some time too and check GoKit. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah, definitely. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I wanna talk about a post I saw by Francesc on... I forget what he called it; it was like analyzing code with BigQuery, or something. |
**Jessie Frazelle:** Oh yeah, that was so cool. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I love his wit too, because it's like "Two seconds and $7 later..." \[laughter\] I wanna work at that skill where you're just billing... Like, "Yeah, I need to run a seven-dollar query..." \[laughter\] |
**Jessie Frazelle:** It was crazy though... When I saw that thing I was like, "One query for seven dollars? Wow..." |
**Erik St. Martin:** I wanna see what the bill is to do that. How much did that blog post cost? |
**Carlisia Thompson:** What I wanna know is what is his budget? |
**Jessie Frazelle:** Oh, yeah... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Right? |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Alright, Jessie, you're the insider now. You gotta tell us what his budget is. |
**Jessie Frazelle:** I have no idea, I don't even have a budget for my stuff, so... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** You will, soon. |
**Erik St. Martin:** There were some interesting things that came out of that, though. I mean, aside from the crazy regular expressions that were on there, it was kind of cool seeing what packages people use most often. |
**Jessie Frazelle:** Yeah, yeah. |
**Erik St. Martin:** It seemed like a lot of it was logging packages, like glog and logrus... |
**Jessie Frazelle:** Yeah, there was logrus and then another one that was like top two. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I think the one that surprised me was Assert. It was used more than anything. it was used more than the context package and a bunch of other things; I was really surprised to see that, the Testify framework, which I haven't actually used, but it must be used quite a bit for it to be up there. I ten... |
**Jessie Frazelle:** Yeah, I usually use the standard. I think that we switched actually to Assert... No, we use GoCheck and Docker... But I've seen Assert used as well, I guess. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I haven't used GoCheck either... Does that do mocking or anything like that, or is it just extra assertions on...? |
**Jessie Frazelle:** \[44:06\] It's just extra assertions. I think that we were gonna use the other one and then we found some weird bug and then submitted a patch, but then decided to use GoCheck... I have no idea what we did there. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Somebody picked it and everybody stuck with it. |
**Jessie Frazelle:** Yeah, and if we ever chose anything new today, it would become this huge monstrosity because so many people would have opinions. At some point you just have to choose it and deal with the people that are mad. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I guess that's the benefit of working on smaller projects, right? Because generally you can get more people to agree on stuff. The bigger it gets, you're almost guaranteed to have at least a couple people that you can't get consensus with, and people who won't move at all. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** The flip side of that though, the benefit of sticking with the standard library is you don't have to have fights about which testing library to use. |
**Jessie Frazelle:** Yeah, for sure. |
**Erik St. Martin:** It's like, we can all agree on one, or we can agree on none. |
**Jessie Frazelle:** \[laughs\] Totally. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I mean, I guess it's a couple extra steps to do your own assertions, but I haven't suffered enough to really go playing with another framework, and I think a lot of that is just time, too. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Especially in testing, though... There's really nothing that I need to do in testing that I haven't been able to do with the testing package. |
**Jessie Frazelle:** Yeah, I completely agree. Because every single testing that I write of my own is only the testing package. It's just cleaner. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah. Easier to read, and that's what Go is all about - easy to read code. |
**Jessie Frazelle:** Totally. |
**Erik St. Martin:** The other thing I saw was... Who was it from CloudFlare that did the net/http timeout post? |
**Jessie Frazelle:** Oh, Filippo... I don't know how to say his name. \[laughs\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** That's right. That actually had a couple of things in it that I didn't even realize. He walked through basically how all the timelines and deadlines worked in the HTTP package, and there were a couple of them that actually surprised me. One of them was like your write timeout included the read duri... |
**Jessie Frazelle:** Yeah, their blog is so good. For a company blog it's very detailed and technical. |
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