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**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah, it's hard for people sometimes to put themselves in other people's shoes and see that people have different entry points into things. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, I tinkered with C and things like that when I first started learning programming, but then I went those couple of years where I did PHP development, and I learned the most there because it was easy to just get started and drop files onto a server, and you didn't focus on everything else. And ... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** But I also wanted to mention that what Tess was saying is a very good point. Sometimes we're so into doing what we're doing, and to us it's easy because we're doing it, but that is a good point - there's still stuff that can be done to make Go easier to use for beginners. I think what we are talk... |
**Erik St. Martin:** I don't think I've seen that. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Well, it doesn't exist. It's a PowerPoint. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Okay. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** It doesn't exist... We talked about it before. He's not working on it. He got it started, and it's out there for somebody to take over. I don't have a link right now. |
**Tess Rinearson:** I think one thing that is really one of Go's strengths - I mean, you're talking about this troll who said, "Oh, this person has no business programming" - is that even though right now the community consists largely of people where Go was definitely not their first language; people have been program... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I think it has the potential for going in that direction. |
**Tess Rinearson:** Yeah. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Alright, so we're running overtime, we need to get to our \#FreeSoftwareFridays. |
**Erik St. Martin:** We are... So who wants to start? |
**Tess Rinearson:** I have one. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Go ahead. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Go, Tess! |
**Tess Rinearson:** I wanna give a shout out to the go-torch project and the Uber engineering team who worked on that, and Prashant (whose last name I'm now forgetting). We used that tool a ton when we were doing performance work here at Chain. Just really easy to use, and super helpful. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** \[01:04:05.27\] That's awesome. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, it's amazing how fast that took off. I think it was Brendan Gregg who started doing the Torch graphs. He's like THE performance guy. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I taught a whole segment on performance measuring, and everybody in the class was just blown away by the whole Torch graphs and how easy it was to do. So yeah, +1. |
**Tess Rinearson:** Yeah, talk about making things accessible. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Totally +1 on that one. My \#FreeSoftwareFriday shout out is to Andrew Gerrand, who wrote the Go Tour, which I forked this week and used for my own devilish purposes. But what a well-written piece of code. An absolute breeze to go through and bend it to my will... So thank you, Andrew, for writing T... |
**Erik St. Martin:** I'm actually really surprised that there hasn't been more contribution to the Go Tour, to kind of expand on it. Because that's like a call for help. |
**Tess Rinearson:** \[laughs\] |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Well, there's a readme in the repository that even gives suggestions for tours that should be submitted. I just think people haven't tried to learn the format for it, which is disappointing because it's the same format for Go's present tool, and that's a great way to help people onboard into the com... |
**Erik St. Martin:** I'm gonna volunteer other people. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Somebody should do that! \[laughter\] |
**Tess Rinearson:** That's the kind of thing that seems like a great way to contribute to the community. I mean, I think I have found myself in this position where I'm like "Oh, I don't know what I could contribute to", and I definitely know people who are interested in contributing... So that's a good one, I'll keep i... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** There you go... |
**Erik St. Martin:** And how about you, Carlisia. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I don't have one today... Forgive me. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Alright. So mine - I've just recently found this tool, and I don't know whether they pronounce it all as one, Cinf. It's actually a cool tool for inspecting containers. If you're not familiar, like Rocket, Docker and all these things - they mainly use cgroups and namespaces. I'll link it in the cha... |
So it basically allows you to inspect a process and look at the cgroups and namespaces that the process is running with, so you can kind of inspect the CPU stats and things like that from the cgroups, and you can do the reverse too, to see which processes are a part of a namespace. So it's kind of a cool way to inspect... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Nice. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I've only recently started playing with this, but especially looking at cgroup values for a container or a process running into a container; I'm still used to going into the sysfs directory or in the proc directory and kind of poking around to get the values. So this is really cool. |
One of the cool things is there's like a monitor flag where you can sit there and just watch, so you can kind of see your CPU stats change for the cgroup. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Approved. Good one. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I do have one, actually... Can I go? |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** There is a repo from Cory LaNou, it's called "OSS help wanted", and it's a repo for... Basically, you can edit the readme file and list your project. There are projects there organized in all kinds of ways, for example there is one that's "Beginner/intermediate/expert", another one is "All help w... |
**Tess Rinearson:** \[01:08:09.06\] That's awesome. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Go Tour included. We can include it there. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Awesome. So we are definitely over time, so I guess it's time to say our goodbyes. I definitely wanna thank everybody who's on the show today, thank you for everybody who's listening live, and everybody who's listening to the recorded version of this. Huge thank you to our sponsors, Linode and Code... |
If you haven't subscribed, you can go to GoTime.fm, and we are @GoTimeFM on Twitter, and you can also find us in the GoTimeFM Slack channel. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** And we promise we won't sing anymore... \[laughter\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** Not overtly anyway... So I think with that, goodbye everybody. See you next week. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Bye. |
**Tess Rinearson:** Bye. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Bye, this was fun! |
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