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**Carlisia Thompson:** Netscape, that's what I thought. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Well, Netscape wasn't the first browser. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** But then, if you think of Gopher and Lynx, those were browsers, too. |
**Tess Rinearson:** I don't think I have even heard of Lynx before. |
**Erik St. Martin:** It's basically the console-based web browser for Linux. |
**Tess Rinearson:** Wow. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah. No image, just text. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Just text. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I still use it sometimes, I can tell you. When I SSH-ed into some server and I need to curl or wget a file, and I don't obviously know the whole address to anything, I'll open up Links through the SSH session and go to the website and find that link that I need to download in. |
**Tess Rinearson:** I'll check that out and just play around with it. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Don't do it. Really, I don't recommend it. |
**Tess Rinearson:** Wow, okay... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** It's not worth it. |
**Erik St. Martin:** You know you're only making it more tempting, right Brian? \[laughter\] Like, "What is it that's so bad he doesn't want me to see?" |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I'm like, "Do it, do it, do it!" \[laughs\] |
**Tess Rinearson:** I know. It's like all of us young kids who don't know how good we have it, we have to go poke at it. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** \[47:54\] It's funny, I was thinking... My first website was some place I had to spend $10/month to buy a shell account on a Unix system. That was back in the days when you got a username and they put the little tilde in front of it, and that was your website. BlahblahblahHosting.com/~BKetelsen. You... |
**Erik St. Martin:** With FTP... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Those were the days. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I was sort of lucky in that way, because when the internet started - and by that, I mean nobody knew about it, but it existed - I was in school, so I got all of that for free. A modem connection for free, a dial-up number I could call for free, I got my web space, I got my email account - everyth... |
**Tess Rinearson:** Sounds awesome. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Nice. |
**Erik St. Martin:** My favorite story about young years and internet coming out was I stayed home sick from school one day and we had this CAD class; it was the room that had the most computers in it because they were doing computerated design on it. And I stayed home... I had basically backdoored one of the computers... |
I came to class the next day... My teacher's like, "Very funny. You know you're coming in after class and removing whatever it is that you put on these machines, right?" \[laughter\] |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah, today you'd be in a federal prison. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah. |
**Tess Rinearson:** Yeah, I have a good friend who in high-school got in trouble for even pointing out security vulnerabilities in his school's network. They were like, "Oh, if you've noticed these things, it's totally predictable..." |
**Brian Ketelsen:** You're hacking. |
**Tess Rinearson:** Yeah, yeah. And this was maybe like six years ago. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah, I used to... When I joined a new company, I would browse around just to see what level of security this company has, and what kind of engineering this company has. So I'd browse around, and one time I browsed through my manager's -- it was a Microsoft system and everybody's folders were rig... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Most people get the basics wrong... You know, SQL injection, cross-site scripting, cross-site request forgery, remote and local file inclusion issues... Because most of it all comes down to not sanitizing inputs. You take a form field and then just stuff it in your command that you run on the comma... |
**Tess Rinearson:** Yeah. |
**Erik St. Martin:** There's the true elite stuff, where somebody spends six months to reverse engineers some odd protocol for your piece of hardware, and then manages to hack you. But for the most part, these things are the basics everybody skips over. |
**Tess Rinearson:** Yeah, or they're social. I feel like so many stories I hear about people's accounts getting hacked have to do basically with hackers lying to customer support people. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Oh, yeah... Social engineering. |
**Tess Rinearson:** Yeah... Forget not sanitizing your inputs; people are people. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Well, it's easy though. Like... Acrobat. I remember there was one Defcon where they threw a zero-day party where you could attend the party if you had a zero day for Acrobat. There was that many zero days that they threw a party for people who had one. So it's things like that... All I have to do i... |
\[52:14\] Even Excel has remote code execution issues where you can... Yeah, so it's that type of stuff that people get hit all the time with, and unless you live in a paranoid world... |
**Tess Rinearson:** Right, right. Sometimes I think about security stuff and I'm like, "Being secure is so much work." It's just exhausting. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Well, there's no such thing as security. All there is is different levels of risk. There's no system that's completely secure, especially when there's humans involved. |
**Tess Rinearson:** Totally. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, I mean every bit of security comes at a cost of usability. I have problems too, even at home... I'll have two isolated Wi-Fi networks. I have one for people who come to my house and I have my own. And then at some point I forget what the guest network is, or I'm just lazy, and I'm like "Here,... |
So who wants to talk about any news? |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Oh, I've got some news. Hang on, let me get my guitar. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yes! |
**Erik St. Martin:** Oh, no... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Oh, yes! |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Alright. So the word on the streets is it's Bill Kennedy's birthday... And here at GoTime we love us some GoingGoDotNet, so everybody is going to sing with me Happy Birthday To Bill. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I am totally not singing with you. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Are we ready? |
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