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**Carlisia Thompson:** Is this core work? |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, I'm a big fan of even -- I don't think anybody should... You don't have to learn to build software in assembly, or in C and things like that, but I think having a surface-level knowledge of things, a level or two below you, definitely makes you a better engineer. Because a lot of stuff are le... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Do we have any other free software Friday things? Or we're wrapping this thing up? |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, I'd like to thank Steve St. Martin for being my hero. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** In proving that it did happen? |
**Erik St. Martin:** \[laughs\] You broke yours the right way, so it happened faster. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** That is awesome. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Alright. So I think it is time to wrap this show up. We're actually early, which is awesome. Thank you so much, Liz, for coming on this show and for all that great content you're producing, and helping make all of us better engineers. |
**Liz Rice:** It's been really fun to be here. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Absolutely! Thank you! |
**Brian Ketelsen:** When I grow up, I want to give talks half as engaging as yours. |
**Liz Rice:** You do! You've done [that UK one with the Game of Thrones](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxlJqrVSalY&list=PLDWZ5uzn69eyM81omhIZLzvRhTOXvpeX9&index=9&t=2s). Brilliant. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I can't wait to see that. |
**Erik St. Martin:** So a huge thank you to all of our listeners. Definitely share the show with friends, family, colleagues. We are on [Twitter](https://twitter.com/GoTimeFM). If you have suggestions or questions, hit us up on [ping](https://github.com/GoTimeFM/ping). With that, goodbye everybody, we'll see you next w... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Bye! |
**Liz Rice:** Bye! |
• Carolyn Van Slyck's introduction to Go and her experience working on Dep |
• Her background as a C# developer and her observations about the divide between Windows and non-Windows developers |
• The importance of supporting multiple platforms, including Windows, in software development |
• The use of virtualization (e.g. VMware, Parallels) and hardware-based KVMs for managing multiple operating systems on a single machine |
• The discussion of random IE bugs in 2017 and the frustration of having to maintain compatibility with outdated browsers. |
• Discussion of old versions of Internet Explorer (IE 6 and IE 4) and their limitations |
• Story of how a listener of the podcast was hired for a job after being inspired by an episode featuring Micro, leading to the current guest, Carolyn Van Slyck, being on the show |
• Carolyn's background as a maintainer for the Dep project in Go and her experience contributing to open source projects |
• The convergence of events that led Carolyn to take time off work and focus on Dep, including encouragement from her previous employer and personal interest in the project |
• Discussion of how Carolyn became more involved with Dep and its community, including helping others and reviewing pull requests |
• Initial discussion about taking time off to focus on Dep and getting encouragement from Sam Boyer |
• Carolyn's background with Go, having coded back-end services and CLI tools, leading to a natural transition to working on Dep |
• Becoming an official maintainer for Dep, including starting with small contributions, receiving feedback from Sam, and eventually being asked to join as a maintainer |
• Importance of community involvement and giving back, with Carolyn's experiences at meetups and conferences |
• Founding Women Who Go in Chicago, a meetup group for women interested in Go programming |
• Carolyn Van Slyck shares her experience learning Go and applying it to her work |
• She recommends starting with small projects such as porting existing scripts or creating simple tools |
• Participating in open-source projects, especially those with beginner-friendly tasks, can be a great way to learn |
• Pull requests are a valuable way to get feedback on one's coding style and idioms |
• Contributing to others' projects, even if it's just small tasks, can help build skills and confidence |
• Sneaking in Go work during regular job hours can make learning easier and more enjoyable |
• Different types of employers: some want general engineering skills, while others require specific knowledge |
• Importance of having relevant experience when applying for a job in Go |
• Value of personal projects and "scratching your own itch" to gain experience |
• Carolyn Van Slyck's goal to work on cloud infrastructure in the open source space |
• Discussion of potential job opportunities at Heptio |
• Discussion of Philippo and his blog posts |
• Release of Go 1.9 RC 2 and its implications for developers |
• New dot-dot-dot syntax in Go 1.9 RC 2 |
• Upcoming talk by Brian Ketelsen at Golang UK conference |
• Introduction to go-prompt and kube-prompt libraries |
• Discussion of CLI tool development using the standard library |
• Mention of other projects, including GoWorld and Vecty (GopherJS framework) |
• Discussion of GopherJS and its use in front-end development |
• Recommendation of a blog post on using GopherJS with Vecty |
• Introduction to Cobra, a Go library for building command-line applications |
• Shoutouts to the new Go Prompt and Captain Safia's work |
• Carolyn Van Slyck shares her inspiration from Captain Safia |
• Erik St. Martin discusses his experience with Visual Studio Code and its Go plugin |
**Erik St. Martin:** Welcome back everybody to another episode of GoTime. Today's episode is number 55. Your hosts for today are myself, Erik St. Martin, Brian Ketelsen, who joins us from Golang UK - say hello, Brian... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Hello, mate! \[laughter\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** And Carlisia Pinto. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Hi, everybody. |
**Erik St. Martin:** And our special guest today is Carolyn Van Slyck. Do you wanna give everybody just a little bit of a rundown, for anybody who may not be familiar with you already? |
**Carolyn Van Slyck:** Sure. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Just kind of who you are, the stuff you're doing, maybe your history in Go, the community... |
**Carolyn Van Slyck:** Yeah, so my history with Go is a little short, but the way I got started is one day I was looking at a Bash script and I said "I wanna run this on Windows", and I had never written a line of Go, had nothing about it, but I knew it was cross-platform, so I said "I'm just gonna rewrite this in Go o... |
Then in December I started working on the Go dependency manager, [Dep](https://github.com/golang/dep), the one dependency manager to roll them all, hopefully... It started off as just a couple little commits. Frankly, I just love the Go community so much. I have 17 years experience with C\#, but you guys are all so fri... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yay! |
**Erik St. Martin:** You also [spoke at 2016 GopherCon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOeeR7odY1I&list=PL2ntRZ1ySWBdliXelGAItjzTMxy2WQh0P&index=23), too. |
**Carolyn Van Slyck:** I did, yes. I was trying to kind of convince people that there are Windows users out there and it's worth bringing them into the fold. I actually had someone come up to me at GopherCon this year and say that they tried it. They had no interest in supporting Windows, so they just did the bare mini... |
**Erik St. Martin:** That's awesome. So they kind of laid the groundwork so that it ran, and then the community kind of jumped in and helped fix it so it ran better? |
**Carolyn Van Slyck:** Yeah, that's exactly how it went down. You don't need to have Windows in order to just give people the foothold they need to contribute themselves. |
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