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**Brian Ketelsen:** I did, I played with it. I cannot tell a lie. It works as expected. There was a tool ten years ago -- what was that tool? It completely escapes me, but it was the easiest way to get a VPN up. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Oh, it's like Mesh, or... Mosh? |
**Brian Ketelsen:** They got bought by Citrix, or one of those people and it just kind of disappeared. But anyway... I digress. This works the same. You just start up a daemon on both instances with a little bit of information, and now you've got a VPN. |
**Erik St. Martin:** You're not talking about Mosh, the mobile shell...? |
**Brian Ketelsen:** No, no... There was an app that you would run on all of the servers in your VPN chain, and they would open up a secure tunnel in between all of them, and it was all client-side, all user space, and they had Windows, Mac and Linux clients. While I was at work, I had a VPN to my house, and it didn't m... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Nice. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I can't remember what it was... But it disappeared when it got bought. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I'm still figuring out the logo for meshbird though. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Oh, they got bought by LogMeIn, that's who bought them. That might be the easiest way to figure it out. Come on, Slack, don't let us down. Hamachi! Thank you! Paulo Pierra, good job. It was [Hamachi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LogMeIn_Hamachi). |
**Erik St. Martin:** We don't even have to do our own fact checking anymore. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I know, this is awesome. It's like having our own backup team. Wait, wait, I'm hearing from the control room - it was Hamachi VPN. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Like you've got a little ear piece in and you're being collected live on the news... \[laughter\] |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah, I loved Hamachi. I abused the crap out of that thing. Those were the good old days, when I was a kid. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Oh, that was the other proposal that I saw too that I wanted to mention... [Fuzzing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzing) has become bigger and bigger lately, and there was actually a cool fuzzing tool for fuzzing syscalls, which was interesting. But the thing that I was excited about... I think ... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** That's awesome. There's already kind of a second-class fuzzing in one of the sub packages of testing, but it's not full-fuzzing, it's just kind of half-fuzzing. |
**Sam Boyer:** The Quick package? |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah. |
**Sam Boyer:** \[52:06\] Yeah, I was reading through that issue earlier and there were some issues with trying to pick up the work that Dimitri has done to fit it into the `testing/quick` package... But yeah, it would be awesome to see fuzzing with another toolchain, I think. I love thinking about fuzzing because not o... |
**Erik St. Martin:** It's funny too, because some of the names of the fuzzing tools are hilarious. There are so many fuzzing tools our there... And fuzzing is interesting too, because there's multiple ways of doing it, too. You have ones that just kind of randomly send junk data, hoping for crashes; then you have other... |
**Sam Boyer:** That's a classic. I love it because of the fact that fuzzers are so useful is just such good evidence of the fact that humans are terrible at writing software... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Right, programmers can't be trusted. |
**Sam Boyer:** Yes, which is one of the most foundational elements of my programming worldview - we as humans are bad at it. So I would love to see fuzzing included in the toolchain. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Unfortunately, there's not really much of another option. If we needed to write software to write software, then that software is just gonna be bad. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** That's right. Until the machines take over, we're screwed. And after the machines take over, it won't matter. |
**Sam Boyer:** There you go. I mean, it's not like we -- can you imagine? We barely understand the software we write ourselves today. It's just gonna continue getting worse. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, I can't even keep up anymore with everything that's going on and changing in the software world, and I'm glad people are starting to write tools to look for our dumb mistakes in the form of static analysis and fuzzing and all that good stuff. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** When you look at the Go tooling, we are so far ahead of nearly every other language in terms of the ecosystem that we provide developers. We've got static checking, we've got error checking... The language itself feeds the ability for developers to write cool tools to help us write better software, ... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, the fact that a lot of the static analysis tools are built right into the standard library, making it really easy to build your own tooling to look for common mistakes... A lot of languages don't have that - the compiler logic that's completely separated out and not really exposed to the end ... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** It's pretty awesome. |
**Sam Boyer:** It provides opportunities even for the dependency management stuff. There is some discussion - maybe we'll explore it at some point - of not just doing version constraint checks in terms of deciding whether a given version is acceptable, but maye we do a little bit of type checking, maybe we do some othe... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Just go in and do an analysis of the source code and see that none of the signatures have changed... This is probably okay. |
**Sam Boyer:** Yeah, these things are feasible to at least explore. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I need one to yell at me for semver, too. Like, "Hey, this code is clearly different, but you're trying to use the same version." |
**Sam Boyer:** Yeah. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Oh, wait, I'm gonna forget the name... Somebody named Bradley in Australia wrote that tool. |
**Sam Boyer:** \[unintelligible 00:55:56.24\] |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah! He wrote that tool. |
**Sam Boyer:** \[56:00\] Yeah, he has one, and there's another one, too. But he wrote that six months ago, at least. |
**Erik St. Martin:** See, this is how out of touch I am. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** This is how awesome my memory is. |
**Sam Boyer:** There you go. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Alright. So you guys wanna do \#FreeSoftwareFriday? |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Absolutely. It wouldn't be a show without it. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Exactly. Sam, to fill you in... Basically, every episode we do a thing called \#FreeSoftwareFriday. Lots of open source projects don't really get a lot of love and attention, unless it's people complaining or opening issues, so we like to just take a moment each episode and shout out to an open sou... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Alright, so mine this week is an interesting one. If you've used Google Hangouts before, you know what this software does. It's called [Jitsi-meet](https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet) and it's basically a self-hosted version of Google Hangouts that runs over WebRTC and it uses all kinds of crazy st... |
So if you're looking for a way to do self-hosted video conferences, webinars, meetings, that sort of stuff, Jitsi-meet is pretty slick and it's all open source. |
**Erik St. Martin:** You know what I find funny about that project? People don't know Brian and I's history... Years ago when we first met, Brian was my boss, and he tried to fire me for installing Node on his computer. \[laughter\] And that is clearly written in Node. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Jitsi-meet is not written in Node. Some of it is written in Erlang and some of it is written in Python, and there are parts that have JavaScripty pieces in it... And I did not try to fire you, I just threatened to fire you if you ever installed Node on my machine again. \[laughter\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** How about you, Carlisia? |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah, I found a really neat tool. It is written in Go, and it's called [gcli](https://github.com/tcnksm/gcli). It's a CLI generator. It's so neat... It's unbelievable. Basically you run a command line command, and one of the input arguments that you pass is the name of the framework you want to u... |
**Erik St. Martin:** So it just sort of scaffolds it out for you? |
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