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It's really good... So Mikeal's looking for a new computer, right? \[laughs\] And he's like asking people "What should I get?" Well, he just wants a laptop. But the reason I bring this up is because he said it on Facebook, and some guy in his comments was like "Ugh, dev work on a Windows machine?", and just wanted to b... |
**Mikeal Rogers:** Yeah, that was a weird comment, especially because -- I mean, we have statistics on this from npm, but there are more Windows users of npm and NodeJS than there are Mac users. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Really? |
**Mikeal Rogers:** Yeah. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** That's very surprising. |
**Mikeal Rogers:** I think that they're a little bit less vocal on Twitter, but yeah, there's a lot of people that do development on Windows, a very huge amount. And one of the secrets to Node's growth, even early on, was having really quality Windows support. I don't think that people appreciate how different it is th... |
But before we get off of IDEs, I did wanna just -- I wanna get a list of your extensions, Rachel, because I've just found some new, interesting extensions that I'm really happy about. So you can put @installed into the extensions thing, and that will show you the ones you have installed. |
I have the JS Standard Linter installed, I have npm Intellisense, so that will actually do auto-completion for the npm packages that you have. And obviously, the regular kind of Intellisense. |
Also Search Node Modules I think is really cool. It searches your Node modules directory for autocompletion as well. |
**Rachel White:** \[36:08\] I have this markdown preview one that's super nice, because I write a lot of documentation for the projects that I do, and it lets me preview it right in the Window, which is cool... I don't have to open it up or push it up before I check out what it looks like. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah, what a pain to ship to GitHub or something like that just to get a preview of your markdown file... No, that's not how you do it. |
**Rachel White:** How do I see what my settings are, Mikeal? \[laughter\] Or how do I see which extensions I have? |
**Mikeal Rogers:** So when you click on that Extensions thing in the left side bar, @installed will show you your installed ones, if you put that in the search... |
Another one that I just installed recently that I'm loving is called Version Lens. It's so webby and great. Basically, when you pull up your package JSON, it looks at all of the deps that you have, and on top of the dep it says if there's newer versions like within this range, if there's like a newer current version th... |
**Rachel White:** So I have a lot -- well, not a lot. Since I also do a bunch of styling stuff, I have Color Highlight, which whenever you type "hacks colors" in your browser, it shows you what the color is around it, which is kind of nice. |
**Mikeal Rogers:** I thought that was default. I thought that was just on by default. |
**Rachel White:** I don't think so. I have the Dracula Official Theme installed, because it's my favorite theme... It's so nice! |
**Mikeal Rogers:** I didn't know that it's official... \[laughter\] |
**Rachel White:** Well, it's because people try and use the name -- it's a really popular theme. It's really pretty, it's nice. I have an HTML Snippets one, which is similar to like Emmet, and then I have like Sass in Python, and ESLint, and also Babel ES6, ES7 syntax coloring one... And that's it. I should probably de... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I actually talked to Zeno Rocha about some back-story on Dracula, which was pretty interesting. |
**Rachel White:** Oh, cool. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah, on episode 248 of the Changelog we talked to him about sort of like his open source lessons learned. His first introduction to open source was this jQuery boilerplate project - this was back in the day - and the very first pull request was one that deleted all of his code and said "Start again... |
We talked about that, and then finally we got to this scenario where he was talking about just his passion for making an editor look good. He came up with this theme, Dracula, and how it's just blown up since then. He started off with one, and now it's been transferred to everything, basically. Vim... Anything. |
**Rachel White:** Yeah, if you go to the Dracula site, it tells you all of the different places you can get it. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah, DraculaTheme.com is the URL, so if you're tracking that on a listener, if you're in the Slack - boom, there it is. That's a pretty interesting project, and it's funny that you did say "official", because there are many imitators, not often duplicators. |
**Rachel White:** I also recently switched my font for programming to Operator Mono... Which is not cheap, but it's beautiful, and it's really easy on the eyes. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** \[40:00\] Back to the somewhat of a surprise for developers on Windows to have an easy time - wasn't there a time though where it was harder for them? I know maybe in the Ruby space at least there was... And this is like late 2008, 2009 timeframe, 2006... It was not easy to get set up. |
**Rachel White:** It really depends on the language that you write and what you need it to do. I've always had a Mac and a PC, and I've always programmed on both of them... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Easily, no problems? |
**Rachel White:** Yeah, easily, no problem. I mean, maybe this stuff on my PC wasn't as attractive-looking and it was a little bit harder to keep dotfiles equal across operating systems, but in the past few years I haven't felt that way at all. |
Also, I have the access to people that work on VS Code, so if I can't figure something out or if I want it to look better, I can message them and be like "Help, please." |
**Adam Stacoviak:** What do you think has changed for Windows, the platform? |
**Rachel White:** I think it's 100% Microsoft being more involved with open source. VS Code is completely open source; it's written in TypeScript, so it's really easy for people to make custom stuff for it. That's my opinion, but Mikeal might have a better one. |
**Mikeal Rogers:** I think that there's a larger transformation at Microsoft where they're moving from a platform company to a product company again. Early, Microsoft made products. They made languages for other people's computers, they made spreadsheets and Word applications, and then at some point they gained the mon... |
Now that they've lost those monopolies in platform, they've turned everything around - Satya has really turned it all around to be a product company. And to be a product company, you have to make things that people love. |
I'm continually surprised by the things that I love from Microsoft. I use Outlook on iOS right now... It's great, actually. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Really? |
**Mikeal Rogers:** Yeah, it's crazy. The fact that I'm using a Visual Studio editor still blows my mind. If you told 1999 Mikeal that that would happen and that they wouldn't be using Vim, he'd punch you in the face. \[laughter\] |
**Adam Stacoviak:** So violent! |
**Mikeal Rogers:** Oh, 1999 Mikeal had no scruples. Anyway... \[laughter\] |
**Adam Stacoviak:** That's funny. I kind of feel the same way, because my transition to Mac came from Windows, obviously - which would make sense - and it was from a place where I just couldn't afford, and even today, I still can't afford the Mac machines; they're still crazy expensive. So it come from 1) an economic s... |
**Mikeal Rogers:** Surface Pros are not cheap. I mean... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I haven't compared the prices. |
**Mikeal Rogers:** They're really nice hardware though, too. That's really surprising, I haven't seen Microsoft make hardware that good, ever. It's funny, because I have heard complains about the Surface Pros, but all of the complaints have been in software, or operating system things that people don't like about Windo... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Well, that's the thing though -- I think Microsoft has sort of like kept this bad name or this bruise... They got punched in the face, as the 1999 Mikeal would have done - punched Microsoft in the face because it just wasn't adding up, and they were walking around with a fake black eye, or something... |
**Rachel White:** \[44:03\] Well, I know that one of the things that people harp on Microsoft a lot of for is everyone's like "Blue Screen of Death! It's so horrible!" and people love to take pictures of stuff out in the wild that have the Blue Screen of Death on, and they can just be like "Ha-ha... Look at Microsoft!"... |
**Mikeal Rogers:** Yeah... I mean, also, if there is a blue screen, I think that they stopped doing that like ten years ago in their operating system. So these dumb kiosks have 10-year-old operating system, of course they're awful, of course they wrote awful software on top of it... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Well, I've also gotten the kernel panic on a Mac before; it happened maybe a small handful of times my whole entire use of a Mac ever but I've seen that, too. |
**Mikeal Rogers:** Also, kernel panics on Linux are just part of using Linux. It's not like this is like a solved problem there. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Right. So what I hear you saying is that if you haven't in a while, revisit your opinion on Microsoft or Windows or any of their new devices out there, as a platform for developers. |
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