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**Rachel White:** I mean, I might offend people if they -- I mean, especially the fact that I don't write production code and now all the code that I write is for myself... I don't have to write tests if I don't want to, I might not... So it depends. |
**Jerod Santo:** I'm getting jealous over here. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** I wish my code would just be for demos and funds... I would be a happy camper. I guess we should explain where you work. Tell us about your job, and then true/false "It's the best job ever." |
**Rachel White:** I work at Microsoft as a tech evangelist. My focus is the audience, which is going to talk to other developers. Basically, I get to take all of the services that Microsoft has, so Azure, a lot of the things that live in the cloud, our cognitive services, which is just REST APIs for machine learning an... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** \[00:04:11.12\\\] It seems like it, to me. |
**Rachel White:** Yeah. Before I was at Microsoft, I worked at IBM Watson as a software engineer, and before I began Watson, I worked at Adobe Behance, and that was my first full JavaScript job, and I actually moved back to New York for it, because when I finally graduate college in 2010 -- I took a very long time to f... |
From there I went to an ad agency where I was doing design and development. So whatever they needed me to do dev on - I would work with .NET sites, or every single CMS on the face of the planet. Then the last job I had in St. Louis was at a really amazing place called Spry Digital, and I did a lot of WordPress and Drup... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Wow... It seems like you're the kind of person to say yes to a lot of fun opportunities, and not feel like you - you said, "I've worked with .NET, I've worth with this", or you didn't say, "Well, I'm too good for that." You sort of were like, "I'll go anywhere and do whatever to enjoy what I'm doing... |
**Rachel White:** Well, that's the thing... I have a talk that I've been doing lately called "Alt-Ctrl: Scream into this Arduino", and it's my intro to a JavaScript hardware talk, and I started off by saying, "I'm not a great developer, and I'm not great at hardware" and the last slide is "I'm a great problem solver", ... |
I think it's an advantage, but it's not really an advantage for places that have quick deadlines and fast turnarounds, so that's why I think that this tech evangelist position is great for me, because I can focus on things that I care about, do it the way that I want, try new things, learn new things, and also have som... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** So why this show for you? This background, this rich history of who you are... As I mentioned in the Node Interactive interview that Jerod was mentioning, from the Future of Node series, Mikeal had introduced me to you when we were kind of early on, putting together the panel (which is you, Alex Sex... |
**Rachel White:** I think it matters to me because I love Alex and Mikeal; they're both super smart and they care a lot about the community, and I would like to think that I'm here to be like, "Hey guys, what are you talking about? Can you explain this in an alternate way for somebody that might not be familiar with wh... |
\[00:08:00.01\\\] I think there's some things that they talk about that I don't know what they're saying, just because I don't have that super high level of understanding of Service Workers, or enhancements stuff. I'm excited to be their non-confrontational devil's advocate that's like a friendly devil's advocate. |
I also hope that we'll be able to explore a little bit more of the creative coding aspect of JavaScript. There's an awful lot of people that identify as technologists who aren't necessarily programmers, but they use programming in their art, and I think that's pretty cool, too. |
**Jerod Santo:** Yeah, that's a great angle into the show. As we've said on the other couple of "meet the host" episodes, we want this podcast to be a weekly celebration of JavaScript and the web platform and all the different things you can do with JavaScript, whether it's you're at Wal-Mart and you're getting through... |
I think that you are doing so many cool things... We should talk about your Robokitty, the RFID chip in your hand... Tell us about some of these fun things so we can just celebrate that for a few minutes. |
**Rachel White:** Sure. My first Node and hardware project was in the summer of 2015; I had no idea what I was doing... It's called Robokitty. I was like, "I wanna make an automated cat feeder, because I feel like that would be easy", and I approached it the same way that I approach a project every time I start it - I ... |
That was my project, and it took me two months to finish everything. I open sourced it, and luckily, a bunch of people helped me clean it up and refactor it. I didn't even know how to do routing with Node, so somebody did that for me. No, I definitely know how to do all that, and I just thought it was a really fun intr... |
I like hearing about thought process and mistakes that are made, and the things that they've learned throughout the process. I try and do that in everything that I do. |
\[00:11:50.11\\\] Let me see, what else... I have an RFID chip in my hand, because why not? I thought it would be funny. Right now all that it does is if you scan it with an RFID reader, it says, "Follow me on Twitter" and it has "@ohhoe" on it. It has a unique ID in it, so I can scan it with the RFID reader that I wir... |
**Jerod Santo:** Nice. |
**Rachel White:** ...and when I scan the chip, it has a bunch of hacker text, like a computer movie scene hacker stuff that scrolls by really fast, and then there's an ASCII skull that says "Access granted." The problem is I got it implanted in my hand last summer, and I think it's moving around... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Uh-oh... |
**Jerod Santo:** Like up your wrist? |
**Rachel White:** Just deeper into my hand. Every time that I give this demo it's harder to do, because I have to pinch the web of my hand and try and find it, and it grosses some people out... So I might have to find a stronger RFID scanner, so I don't have to do weird things with my body to get it to work. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Hopefully it doesn't get lost in there. |
**Jerod Santo:** You're becoming a machine... |
**Rachel White:** If it does, it's fine... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** It starts scanning different sections of your body, like your wrist, or the inside of your elbow, or something like that... |
**Rachel White:** Well, I don't think that it can go anywhere, like... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** ...too far. |
**Rachel White:** I mean, who knows...? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Maybe. |
**Rachel White:** We'll see. Yeah, those are the weird things that I'm doing, and I'm actually learning React right now so that I can make a website that is like Japanese photo booths, if that makes sense to anyone... They basically just take four sequential pictures and then you get to overlay stickers on them, and ma... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I just googled that, and I see what you mean. |
**Rachel White:** Yeah, it's called "purikura". Obviously, since that kind of sounds like "purry", I'm going to call it "Purry Booth", because I can't make anything not related to cats, apparently. |
**Jerod Santo:** It's your brand. |
**Rachel White:** I know. |
**Jerod Santo:** You gotta stay on brand. |
**Rachel White:** I know, but also I feel like people are like, "Ugh, I hate cats, there's that girl again." |
**Jerod Santo:** It's the cat lady! |
**Adam Stacoviak:** She did make it very clear in the Node Interactive interview talking about, Jerod. You said, "I'm a cat lady, but not in a weird way where I am buried in my cats at 80 years old..." - I don't know what you said, but something to that effect. You were like, "I love cats, but not to that level." |
**Rachel White:** Um, that's a lie... \[laughter\] It's definitely not a healthy level... \[laughter\] I'm allergic, and I have two, so... |
**Jerod Santo:** You're allergic to cats, and yet you own two cats. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Wow... |
**Rachel White:** Well, after I was hospitalized for three days, the allergies got a little better, so... \[laughs\] |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Coming back to this React learning - I'd love to go that direction; I'm really curious what you're doing with it. So this purikura called Purry Photobooth - you're doing this in React; what is this? |
**Rachel White:** So I was like, "I'm really horrible at conferences, and I don't watch a lot of talks because I have short attention span..." Once you start going to a lot of conferences, it's a lot of the same thing over and over. I've been hearing nothing but React talks for the past year, and I guess I never paid a... |
\[00:16:03.08\\\] And then I was talking to a friend of mine who just so happens to work with me - Suze Hinton - and I was showing her the drawings of how I wanted this Purry Booth app to work, and she was like "Oh, that would be a really good React app." |
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