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[1597.52 --> 1598.98] So it is working to a certain degree. |
[1598.98 --> 1599.66] So that's cool. |
[1600.02 --> 1606.66] But like, it really sucks when me and my friends who have been going since PAX was really small |
[1606.66 --> 1612.96] and like barely a convention are now struggling to be able to go, even though we've |
[1612.96 --> 1614.14] been loyal this whole time. |
[1614.36 --> 1616.54] It's just like, Oh man, that kind of sucks. |
[1616.70 --> 1618.14] We still make it every year. |
[1618.22 --> 1620.22] We somehow make it, but it's just. |
[1620.28 --> 1621.64] Well, you can always pay a bunch more. |
[1622.18 --> 1622.42] Yeah. |
[1622.92 --> 1623.04] Yeah. |
[1623.22 --> 1628.32] We, I don't think we've had to do like, Oh, we have to buy like two single days or something |
[1628.32 --> 1628.54] like that. |
[1628.54 --> 1634.12] We've never had to buy like entire sets of tickets for every person from scalpers. |
[1634.22 --> 1635.02] We've never had to do that. |
[1635.02 --> 1640.28] There are other approaches rather than going full stone age that have been experimented |
[1640.28 --> 1640.46] with. |
[1640.54 --> 1644.24] One of them is basically kind of verified. |
[1644.58 --> 1648.62] You buy your ticket, you pay for it, but you don't really have it until you show up with |
[1648.62 --> 1652.32] your identification with the credit card that bought the tickets. |
[1652.40 --> 1655.24] Then you're let in and they print the tickets for you at that time. |
[1656.52 --> 1659.82] There's problems with that though, because you can't, you want there to be a secondary market. |
[1659.82 --> 1664.58] You know, you don't, you want to be able to buy them the week before cause you just found |
[1664.58 --> 1666.16] out or like you're visiting that city. |
[1666.50 --> 1666.62] Yeah. |
[1666.80 --> 1668.32] You want to be able to buy online. |
[1668.64 --> 1670.72] Like Nine Channels fans are diehards. |
[1671.28 --> 1672.04] People travel. |
[1672.22 --> 1674.58] Once at a concert, by the way, I've seen them five times. |
[1674.70 --> 1680.96] Once at a concert, I was there and there was a lady who had followed them across Europe. |
[1681.08 --> 1682.50] She'd seen them like 28 times. |
[1682.72 --> 1685.10] She had a stack of picks, four tambourines. |
[1685.36 --> 1688.72] She got an autograph from them and then got that autograph tattooed on her body. |
[1688.72 --> 1689.70] Like she was insane. |
[1689.82 --> 1694.02] Like people want to be able to see, oh, they're not coming to Vancouver, but they're going |
[1694.02 --> 1694.56] to Seattle. |
[1694.82 --> 1696.20] I'm going to buy a ticket for Seattle. |
[1696.94 --> 1697.30] Yeah. |
[1697.32 --> 1703.16] But I'm not going to drive out there and get in a non-line on the hopes that I can buy a |
[1703.16 --> 1705.34] ticket and then drive out there again for the show. |
[1705.76 --> 1705.92] Yeah. |
[1705.98 --> 1708.30] There's really no like great solution. |
[1710.64 --> 1711.38] And it sucks. |
[1712.98 --> 1714.02] I love the quote here. |
[1714.06 --> 1714.78] Speaking of sucks. |
[1715.70 --> 1716.76] What does he say here? |
[1717.18 --> 1718.84] We decided to try something different. |
[1718.84 --> 1721.24] That will also likely suck, but in a different way. |
[1721.72 --> 1725.80] We're hoping many of you will be happy with results while some may do what they always |
[1725.80 --> 1726.80] do and bitch about it. |
[1727.56 --> 1727.76] Yeah. |
[1727.82 --> 1729.76] Like there's and there's no other way to say it. |
[1729.84 --> 1730.54] He's trying something. |
[1731.54 --> 1732.88] It's probably not going to completely. |
[1733.00 --> 1734.62] It definitely won't completely work. |
[1734.62 --> 1738.86] I think I think for them, they're just going to have to try to like weigh the noise. |
[1739.00 --> 1739.64] It's trade offs. |
[1739.82 --> 1740.00] Yeah. |
[1740.24 --> 1744.98] And just like see how much less or more negative their new solution is. |
[1745.08 --> 1747.22] It's not and they're never going to have like a perfect solution. |
[1747.34 --> 1749.04] There was one other solution that's been tried. |
[1749.14 --> 1751.36] I believe I take a master called verified fan. |
[1751.58 --> 1752.18] You ever heard of that? |
[1752.62 --> 1752.84] No. |
[1753.52 --> 1757.42] It's I believe they take a certain number of tickets or maybe certain sections. |
[1757.42 --> 1763.10] And what you do is you have to register like ahead of time to kind of a community forum |
[1763.10 --> 1767.26] that'll be on in this case Ticketmaster's website where you have to do all these different |
[1767.26 --> 1769.26] things that signal that you're a true fan. |
[1769.48 --> 1771.64] You've got to engage with so many posts. |
[1772.04 --> 1773.04] You've got to like. |
[1773.04 --> 1775.92] I think that's basically it. |
[1775.98 --> 1776.50] Like you're on. |
[1776.64 --> 1777.66] It's like a process. |
[1777.80 --> 1778.02] Okay. |
[1778.14 --> 1779.78] To verify yourself. |
[1780.00 --> 1781.52] It's not just I log in and buy. |
[1781.62 --> 1783.92] See that that almost makes me kind of happy. |
[1784.00 --> 1788.56] And like something that I've wanted from PAX for a long time is like, okay, so I've bought |
[1788.56 --> 1791.48] tickets to PAX West for like 12 years. |
[1792.04 --> 1794.08] It would be nice if you knew that. |
[1795.04 --> 1795.44] Yeah. |
[1795.48 --> 1796.26] But so have the scalpers. |
[1796.46 --> 1797.18] Let me buy another one. |
[1797.18 --> 1798.72] They have to know they scanned you in. |
[1799.18 --> 1799.30] Yeah. |
[1799.30 --> 1806.20] Or yeah, but then like maybe I have like a profile and scalpers could still do this. |
[1806.26 --> 1810.20] But I was going to say like I sign in at the event and I'm showing you like, yeah, I'm |
[1810.20 --> 1811.24] showing up every day. |
[1811.40 --> 1811.98] This is me. |
[1812.12 --> 1813.98] You can check me every time if you want. |
[1814.16 --> 1819.44] Like make some process that you can go through that gives you some form of elevated account. |
[1819.48 --> 1823.28] Well, even what you just described would introduce quite a bit of friction to scalpers because |
[1823.28 --> 1827.22] if you're scalping 10 tickets and then all those people arrive at like the same time and |
[1827.22 --> 1830.02] you can't wait in line 10 different times, you might. |
[1830.66 --> 1831.38] It would be harder though. |
[1831.48 --> 1833.40] Whatever introduces more friction. |
[1833.64 --> 1838.94] And even the waiting in line 10 different times thing though, like if you have to verify |
[1838.94 --> 1840.50] it by ID and stuff, they wouldn't be able to. |
[1840.60 --> 1842.10] They'd only be able to scalp one set of tickets. |
[1843.54 --> 1844.98] I actually got screwed by that once. |
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