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**Jerod Santo:** Right. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. |
**Jessica Kerr:** And if that's all you get paid for and all you care about is getting paid, then you're fine. But I think all of us care about more than getting paid. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. |
**Jessica Kerr:** ...in this Zoom anyway. |
**Jerod Santo:** \[laughs\] |
**Adam Stacoviak:** And one or two listeners, for sure. |
**Jerod Santo:** That was a huge qualifier. That was the biggest qualifier I've ever seen. She went from everybody to "in this Zoom." From millions of people to three. |
**Jessica Kerr:** Well, okay... |
**Jerod Santo:** \[laughs\] At least extend it to our listening audience. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Sure. |
**Jessica Kerr:** If all you care about is getting paid, you're not my audience. \[laughs\] |
**Jerod Santo:** There you go. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** What you're doing though is you're learning about doing, though... |
**Jessica Kerr:** Yeah. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** That's what's happening in this scenario, to change the world like that. And you need that feedback. That feedback is part of the learning process. |
**Jessica Kerr:** Yeah. And you know what, this is another reason that stories are so powerful... Because as humans, we were built to learn, in order to do, in order to learn, in order to do. Naturally, we only learn with action. But here's the thing... So looking at it that way, it makes sense that we only learn from ... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** \[48:32\] Yeah. |
**Jessica Kerr:** So stories are so important that way. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** The mirror neurons is really interesting, because - back to VS Code and Docker and "watch Avdi" mode for example... Because you're watching Avdi do it, for example, your mirror neurons, the way you learn, the way you watch, your brain would light up the same way Avdi's did as he's writing it, becaus... |
**Jessica Kerr:** Hopefully, he'll be talking through the why... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Right, right, exactly. |
**Jessica Kerr:** ...and they key combo he just pressed. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** It's really interesting how all that plays out. These mirror neurons are a key component to empathy, a key component to compassion obviously... But you can watch somebody do something and get the same brain responses as if you did it yourself. |
**Jessica Kerr:** Do animals have those? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I don't know. I don't know that. |
**Jessica Kerr:** Well, they certainly don't have it in response to language, because they don't have language the way we do... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Well, I think they do... I don't know how to describe it, but that's a good question though. I'm pretty sure though you can see monkeys do these things. That's why they do tests on rats, and monkeys, and things like that... |
**Jerod Santo:** Mimicry. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Because they simulate... And dolphins even, too. |
**Jessica Kerr:** Yeah. Yeah, monkeys would. Monkeys would. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. It's deep. |
**Jessica Kerr:** Yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** So this could be like a really subtle form of mind control, right? The person is informing your mind... Someone's firing mirror neurons in your mind... |
**Jessica Kerr:** That's a thing. |
**Jerod Santo:** ...while you're watching them code. It's kind of deep. |
**Jessica Kerr:** We conform to what the people around us are doing... And this gets back to - if you wanna change yourself, think about where you put your attention. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Absolutely. |
**Jessica Kerr:** Because you're going to mimic what you watch. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. Your awareness/attention is absolutely key. Where you place your thoughts, the framework in which you have your thoughts - it all begins with awareness, and your attention. |
**Jessica Kerr:** Agreed. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** The idea though, Jerod, you mentioned, mind control - it's really interesting, because MKUltra is a real thing. It's quite possible that we're in a simulation, and this is all mind control. |
**Jerod Santo:** You're just saying that because you wanna go watch Space X, and you're thinking about Elon Musk... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yes, yes. |
**Jessica Kerr:** If it's a simulation, they have something way better than this ThinkPad. |
**Jerod Santo:** \[laughs\] |
**Adam Stacoviak:** A little back-story - it had some crashing earlier... |
**Jessica Kerr:** \[laughs\] |
**Jerod Santo:** Yeah, they've probably learned that through osmosis. |
**Jessica Kerr:** On the Surface Pro. The ThinkPad's been great. |
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