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[801.02 --> 801.80] a hardware provider. |
[802.28 --> 805.66] In terms of a smart home hub, it's lacking a couple of things. |
[805.76 --> 810.18] You need to add Z-Wave or ZigBee via USB, right? |
[810.48 --> 810.70] Yep. |
[810.78 --> 814.66] Although that's the same kind of trade-off you have with any of these other kind of ARM boards, |
[814.66 --> 821.26] because it's kind of competing between something like a smart things home hub and a Raspberry |
[821.26 --> 822.36] Pi DIY kit. |
[822.46 --> 824.68] It's like trying to live in that middle ground there. |
[825.16 --> 826.42] So remind me of the price then. |
[826.50 --> 827.00] How much was it? |
[827.36 --> 835.04] It's listed for $140, but after all in for me with $21 and change of shipping, it was $180 |
[835.04 --> 836.70] total to get this device. |
[837.14 --> 837.38] Ooh. |
[837.88 --> 838.20] Okay. |
[838.32 --> 841.46] I had 100 in my mind for some reason, but 180. |
[841.78 --> 842.00] Wow. |
[842.18 --> 842.38] Okay. |
[842.56 --> 843.68] That's getting up there. |
[843.68 --> 844.46] Well, okay. |
[844.62 --> 846.24] So I'll get to the value. |
[846.48 --> 850.44] So the first boot experience, they're trying to make it very out-of-the-box friendly. |
[850.58 --> 851.70] Two steps to set up. |
[852.00 --> 857.00] You plug it in to your network and then go to your browser and you type in homeassistant.local |
[857.00 --> 858.56] and it's supposed to just come up. |
[858.94 --> 860.50] But of course, that's not how it works on my network. |
[860.58 --> 864.64] I already have a DNS and DHCP server set up and my system isn't just going to start resolving |
[864.64 --> 865.74] some new machine. |
[866.30 --> 868.78] But I was able to get the IP out of the DHCP log. |
[868.84 --> 869.36] Pretty simple. |
[869.78 --> 870.42] Put that in. |
[870.52 --> 871.96] Went to port 8123. |
[871.96 --> 875.66] And it's really at this point, it's a basic home assistant install. |
[875.82 --> 879.56] It's really kind of just what you'd expect if you'd set up the home assistant suite with |
[879.56 --> 880.80] supervisor and everything. |
[881.22 --> 882.88] You create the first time account. |
[883.78 --> 886.46] But Alex, it feels fast. |
[886.56 --> 891.76] It definitely feels noticeably faster in the UI than my Raspberry Pi 4. |
[891.90 --> 894.90] Granted, it's a new, happy, fresh install. |
[894.90 --> 898.64] But I've set up home assistant enough times on the Pi to know what it feels like. |
[898.74 --> 901.64] And I can tell you with confidence, this thing absolutely feels faster. |
[902.22 --> 904.20] Are you SD card based in the Pi then? |
[904.66 --> 904.96] USB. |
[905.28 --> 906.06] So it is on a disk. |
[906.20 --> 906.58] Oh, really? |
[906.88 --> 907.12] Yeah. |
[907.22 --> 908.08] That's interesting then. |
[908.32 --> 909.52] I think it's just got a little more horsepower. |
[910.06 --> 912.90] And I think the developers are optimizing for this thing. |
[912.90 --> 917.66] That's why, you know, when we talk about the value, so I'd say round it off to $200 or just |
[917.66 --> 921.14] under $200, you know, just as a concept price point. |
[922.04 --> 929.46] Well, what is a totally local, merges all the different vendors together with no subscription |
[929.46 --> 935.48] and is completely under your control, standalone box worth? |
[935.48 --> 942.12] So to me, home assistant, home assistant is one of the few open source projects that has |
[942.12 --> 947.62] changed my life at the level that, like say Linux has, where it has, it has changed. |
[947.82 --> 951.56] It has changed the quality of life for my entire family. |
[952.20 --> 957.72] And I also use it here at the studio to help with remote presence and other, other like, |
[957.76 --> 959.42] you know, just light management in the studio. |
[959.76 --> 962.36] And so it also helps in a professional capacity. |
[962.36 --> 964.94] So $200 for a dedicated box. |
[965.02 --> 966.02] It's really fast. |
[966.10 --> 967.38] It feels very well built. |
[967.48 --> 973.60] I mean, it feels like a polished product that is also supporting home assistant development |
[973.60 --> 975.00] at the same time when I buy it. |
[975.60 --> 975.84] Mm-hmm. |
[976.02 --> 976.36] Mm-hmm. |
[976.66 --> 978.64] I feel like that's, you know, under $200. |
[978.90 --> 980.18] It is a good value for this. |
[980.20 --> 981.92] And I think I'm actually going to buy another one. |
[982.04 --> 984.70] I'm going to buy one for the studio because this is what I set this one up for. |
[984.74 --> 988.90] I wasn't sure if I was ready to deploy my serious, serious home assistant setup yet. |
[988.90 --> 993.56] So I put it in production here at the studio where it's, it's kind of important, but honestly, |
[993.72 --> 995.28] like I could recreate it in a day. |
[995.54 --> 995.98] You know what I mean? |
[996.16 --> 1003.54] It's that level of, but at home, like, I just, I mean, I would take a snapshot and I would |
[1003.54 --> 1008.22] restore the snapshot, but it just has to be perfect at home because it literally impacts |
[1008.22 --> 1009.00] our quality of life. |
[1009.10 --> 1013.30] So I wanted to take it slow and I wasn't sure if I was ready to replace my raspberry pie, |
[1013.30 --> 1019.02] but I am a believer in having home assistant on its own dedicated host, either being a |
[1019.02 --> 1020.32] VM or on hardware. |
[1020.66 --> 1025.78] And I don't necessarily think having it live alongside a lot of my other services in Docker |
[1025.78 --> 1030.34] while trying to also use the supervisor is a good long-term strategy. |
[1030.34 --> 1034.24] Like in there, it gives me errors about being on an unsupported OS all the time. |
[1034.36 --> 1039.92] And I look at the development trajectory and I think if they're selling these machines and |
[1039.92 --> 1043.16] they are themselves are developing, like you have to imagine the developers all have these, |
[1043.16 --> 1044.26] or we'll all have these. |
[1045.26 --> 1047.72] That's likely where they're going to invest a lot of their time and energy and they're |
[1047.72 --> 1051.16] going to be developing with a mindset that they're doing it on a dedicated host. |
[1051.66 --> 1055.98] When I look at the power draw for this thing and I look at the, you know, I got to always |
[1055.98 --> 1056.64] do that math. |
[1056.72 --> 1062.10] Like if I bring a box in, I really have to be aware of what it's going to take because |
[1062.10 --> 1064.32] I want to be able to go off grid. |
[1064.44 --> 1068.06] I want to be able to survive on solar power alone, which means I got to extend the life of |
[1068.06 --> 1069.68] my batteries as long as possible. |
[1069.68 --> 1075.38] And this thing under load, and I'm not, you know, I didn't, I didn't do extensive testing |
[1075.38 --> 1078.58] here, but it went, it was right in line with what their specs were. |
[1079.20 --> 1080.00] Six Watts. |
[1080.66 --> 1081.84] That's pretty remarkable. |
[1082.72 --> 1083.18] Six Watts. |
[1083.36 --> 1083.52] Wow. |
[1084.02 --> 1084.30] Yeah. |
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