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[1084.68 --> 1088.52] And, and around idle, it was around two Watts, sometimes two and a half Watts. |
[1089.10 --> 1091.26] I only really started testing it today. |
[1091.26 --> 1095.40] So I want to do more extensive testing, like, because it's a pretty simple home assistant install, |
[1095.40 --> 1099.18] but I was monitoring during the first load and getting all that stuff like first set up. |
[1099.20 --> 1103.06] And I monitored a little bit under, under just sitting there idle, you know, just like kind |
[1103.06 --> 1104.46] of just daily, just sitting there running. |
[1105.08 --> 1105.80] That's what I noted. |
[1105.84 --> 1106.40] And I went and checked. |
[1106.48 --> 1108.48] I looked up their specs for this, for this board. |
[1108.54 --> 1110.14] That's exactly what it's in line with the specs. |
[1110.40 --> 1115.76] Pretty sure my garage door opener uses more than six Watts just sat there doing nothing all |
[1115.76 --> 1115.92] day. |
[1116.84 --> 1120.90] I know there's power bricks that just sit there and plugged into the wall that use more than |
[1120.90 --> 1121.38] two Watts. |
[1121.38 --> 1122.06] Uh, yeah. |
[1122.32 --> 1126.60] So we'll see because that's the, that's the big deal breaker is if that ends up being |
[1126.60 --> 1131.68] a higher, higher load wattage, uh, that would be, that'd be a deal breaker. |
[1131.68 --> 1137.04] But at this point, I think plugging in a device that would be using around six Watts would be |
[1137.04 --> 1139.42] kind of just lost in the wash. |
[1139.50 --> 1141.24] I don't think I'm really going to notice that on my runtime. |
[1141.50 --> 1145.02] So I think it means from a power budget standpoint, I can put this thing in production. |
[1145.88 --> 1147.66] I think, I think I'm going to get another one. |
[1148.14 --> 1151.02] You do like highly available single board computers though, don't you? |
[1151.02 --> 1153.96] So there is something to this. |
[1154.04 --> 1158.62] You could, you know, if a guy really wanted, he could buy two of these. |
[1158.62 --> 1162.18] I'm not saying he should, but he could, and just keep one in the drawer, right? |
[1162.50 --> 1162.66] Yeah. |
[1162.98 --> 1163.14] Yeah. |
[1163.30 --> 1165.12] And keep a snapshot somewhere. |
[1165.78 --> 1170.50] And if one pops you in, in 35 seconds, you pull it out. |
[1170.58 --> 1171.62] All the plugs are all the same. |
[1171.68 --> 1175.60] You swap it in and you restore the snapshot and you're back in business. |
[1175.60 --> 1182.24] But if ever there is a use case for a literal plug and play appliance, it's your smart home |
[1182.24 --> 1182.48] hub. |
[1182.80 --> 1183.02] Yeah. |
[1183.12 --> 1185.06] And this is version one, right? |
[1185.14 --> 1189.56] And maybe even, and I'm not, I'm not knocking it when I say this, but maybe it's even version |
[1189.56 --> 1194.56] 0.5 because I have a sense this kind of came along during the year and it's, it's, it's a |
[1194.56 --> 1196.96] really good, it's a really good first, first start. |
[1196.96 --> 1203.16] But I could see future ones that maybe have things like Zigbee or Z-Wave or, or whatever |
[1203.16 --> 1206.72] this new conglomerate standard is that I can't remember. |
[1207.30 --> 1209.02] Makes me think of the XKCD comic. |
[1210.02 --> 1210.42] Yeah. |
[1210.60 --> 1211.88] Just one more standard, Alex. |
[1211.92 --> 1212.48] That's all we need. |
[1212.82 --> 1213.64] There are 12 standards. |
[1213.72 --> 1215.40] We should have one that unifies them all. |
[1215.66 --> 1215.80] Okay. |
[1215.84 --> 1217.00] Now we have 13 standards. |
[1217.24 --> 1217.42] Great. |
[1218.34 --> 1222.38] Also they, you know, one that has wifi built in, I don't know how they would handle it with |
[1222.38 --> 1226.44] the metal housing because I think the casing is providing some heat transfer. |
[1226.44 --> 1228.14] It's mostly cool to the touch. |
[1228.24 --> 1230.92] The bottom's warm, but that's, that's kind of expected. |
[1231.02 --> 1231.46] It's a heat sink. |
[1231.78 --> 1236.94] Is, is wifi the right kind of expectation to set for reliability for this type of device |
[1236.94 --> 1237.18] though? |
[1237.50 --> 1239.50] Probably in that light, it's probably a good thing. |
[1239.56 --> 1241.02] They at least didn't put it in 1.0. |
[1241.42 --> 1241.60] Right. |
[1242.16 --> 1247.04] I'll tell you one thing that I am just a little concerned about, and I'd be really curious |
[1247.04 --> 1253.96] to see how this actually plays out in the longterm for you is EMMC write endurance is not |
[1253.96 --> 1255.74] famously very good. |
[1256.08 --> 1261.20] So I'd be curious to see how home assistant, which writes a lot of data to that database |
[1261.20 --> 1266.44] all the time will be, you know, in, in a year or two's time, whether it'll have burnt |
[1266.44 --> 1267.48] through that flash or not. |
[1267.48 --> 1267.92] Yeah. |
[1268.08 --> 1273.76] And I wouldn't be surprised if they have a way to switch it to USB storage. |
[1273.76 --> 1278.52] Cause I do remember there being some discussion about that during the product launch, but going |
[1278.52 --> 1282.26] through like the first time setup process, there's nothing that prompts you to store it |
[1282.26 --> 1282.90] anywhere else. |
[1283.06 --> 1284.24] You know, it's all on that EMMC. |
[1284.60 --> 1286.56] I got bitten with a PF sense box. |
[1286.56 --> 1292.78] Uh, this was, um, one of the APU one D boxes, I think several years ago, I didn't move the |
[1292.78 --> 1295.42] logs off of the, uh, M SATA SSD. |
[1295.66 --> 1301.86] So obviously M SATA is different to EMMC, but just to tend, you know, a related comment |
[1301.86 --> 1306.76] really that if you don't move logs off of SSDs, they can wear out pretty quickly. |
[1307.60 --> 1307.62] Yeah. |
[1307.64 --> 1311.42] I had a free NAS box that had the EMMC finally die on it. |
[1311.56 --> 1312.58] It was a really old one. |
[1312.58 --> 1314.72] It was like an appliance version that somebody prebuilt. |
[1315.82 --> 1319.58] And, um, that's when I learned that those things have a limit. |
[1319.92 --> 1323.96] Actually, that's when I learned that it was actually even using EMMC. |
[1326.08 --> 1327.62] And then I learned they had a limit. |
[1328.62 --> 1329.28] So you're right. |
[1329.36 --> 1330.66] That's a good thing to keep an eye on. |
[1330.74 --> 1335.08] I'm also going to, if I was going to put it in production, I would prefer to have all |
[1335.08 --> 1339.48] of the home assistant data and anything that needs a lot of read, write on external storage. |
[1339.54 --> 1341.26] I mean, the thing has plenty of USB ports. |
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