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[1377.56 --> 1379.24] Get started at thecloudguru.com. |
[1379.24 --> 1380.90] Hello, people. |
[1381.28 --> 1381.76] Wake up. |
[1381.96 --> 1383.24] Chris and the Badger. |
[1383.36 --> 1383.68] Morning. |
[1384.06 --> 1384.74] All right, let's go. |
[1384.82 --> 1385.22] Let's go. |
[1385.30 --> 1385.82] Let's get up. |
[1385.96 --> 1387.64] Or whenever you happen to listen to it, I guess. |
[1387.88 --> 1389.42] On selfhosted.show. |
[1390.26 --> 1391.06] Isn't that amazing? |
[1391.40 --> 1392.68] That's so good. |
[1393.00 --> 1396.50] That's exactly what I was thinking of when I was talking about it. |
[1396.58 --> 1397.92] Do you know who sent that in? |
[1397.96 --> 1399.42] Because it's pure amazement. |
[1399.66 --> 1400.14] I do. |
[1400.24 --> 1400.46] Yeah. |
[1400.64 --> 1403.20] Someone on the Discord with the username, oh, yeah. |
[1403.88 --> 1405.10] That's perfect, actually. |
[1405.66 --> 1406.06] Wow. |
[1406.80 --> 1407.82] Yeah, I really like that. |
[1407.94 --> 1409.04] Yeah, I could see it, Alex. |
[1409.18 --> 1413.84] You know, you and I in another reality, we're just two morning AM DJs talking about people's |
[1413.84 --> 1416.66] tech problems and telling people about the morning commute. |
[1417.06 --> 1417.96] And the traffic. |
[1418.38 --> 1418.50] Yeah. |
[1418.54 --> 1418.88] Yes. |
[1419.40 --> 1420.70] Let's cut to the chopper. |
[1421.06 --> 1421.24] Yeah. |
[1421.84 --> 1424.00] We'd be good at it, I think, though, you know. |
[1424.18 --> 1425.00] Are we silly enough? |
[1425.00 --> 1428.06] Your whole bit would be like a silly face holding a coffee cup, right? |
[1428.14 --> 1429.88] And my thing would be hats. |
[1429.88 --> 1434.58] But it's a radio show, so it only works in the promotional material. |
[1435.32 --> 1439.40] We had a question from Gone in a Flash on Twitter, and he asked, |
[1439.68 --> 1445.02] I'm thinking about retiring my Docker on Rancher OS setup as it doesn't support Docker Compose. |
[1445.58 --> 1449.90] What's the most supported and easy way to manage an alternative Docker system? |
[1450.08 --> 1450.98] Is it something on Ubuntu? |
[1451.56 --> 1454.12] Is that light and small as possible? |
[1454.34 --> 1454.66] Thanks. |
[1455.06 --> 1455.64] Gone in a Flash. |
[1455.64 --> 1460.72] So he wants to move off of Rancher OS and embrace the Docker Compose lifestyle and is |
[1460.72 --> 1462.88] wondering what the simplest minimalist stack is. |
[1463.64 --> 1463.86] Whew. |
[1464.56 --> 1468.06] That's a hard question to answer because we don't know exactly what his use case is. |
[1468.40 --> 1469.42] What would you go, though? |
[1469.48 --> 1470.44] What would be your go-to? |
[1471.20 --> 1472.18] Perfectmediaserver.com. |
[1473.04 --> 1473.38] Yeah. |
[1473.62 --> 1474.82] That's an Ubuntu base, right? |
[1475.30 --> 1475.58] Yeah. |
[1475.58 --> 1478.38] So I base that off of Ubuntu 2004. |
[1479.08 --> 1483.86] I use an answerable role by GeelingGuy to install Docker. |
[1484.42 --> 1487.38] Although you could, of course, just install Docker however you like. |
[1488.22 --> 1490.26] Install Docker Compose, and that's it. |
[1490.30 --> 1490.56] You're done. |
[1490.88 --> 1492.04] Really isn't a lot to it. |
[1492.38 --> 1495.36] I think it's funny that this is coming from a Red Hat employee. |
[1495.54 --> 1501.84] If anybody ever needed proof that Alex is independent and speaks his mind, there you have it. |
[1501.84 --> 1506.28] But I think that's a fantastic setup, too, because the community support is huge. |
[1506.72 --> 1511.92] The free five-year patches from Canonical on an LTS are pretty tough to beat at this point. |
[1513.88 --> 1516.80] There's other games in town, but yeah. |
[1517.34 --> 1521.04] Well, I've avoided commenting on the whole CentOS thing quite deliberately, |
[1521.04 --> 1523.76] because obviously Red Hat pay my mortgage. |
[1524.02 --> 1530.14] But, you know, I feel somewhat vindicated in my choice of using Ubuntu for my personal systems |
[1530.14 --> 1534.80] and keeping that separation between work and pleasure with all this news. |
[1535.02 --> 1537.16] So it's been an interesting time. |
[1537.62 --> 1542.10] I know this is what nobody wants to hear right now because it's just too damn reasonable and low-key, |
[1542.38 --> 1549.10] but I will go on record right now in early 2021 and say that I bet you CentOS Stream |
[1549.10 --> 1551.90] makes for an excellent containers platform. |
[1552.22 --> 1557.48] If you wanted to run Docker or Podman, CentOS could make a great host OS, |
[1557.48 --> 1560.90] because, I mean, what was the thing that people loved about Core OS? |
[1561.38 --> 1566.96] It was essentially rolling updates at an enterprise scale for an enterprise distribution to run your containers. |
[1567.86 --> 1570.22] And what's CentOS Stream now? |
[1570.70 --> 1576.48] It's going to be a consistently updated rolling enterprise-grade distribution that can run your containers. |
[1576.98 --> 1583.68] I think it's worth considering going down that route, especially if you work with Red Hat systems. |
[1583.68 --> 1587.38] But otherwise, I just really have to agree with Alex. |
[1587.84 --> 1593.30] I think the Ubuntu ecosystem makes for a fantastic home server because there's such a good community support system out there. |
[1593.74 --> 1597.38] Canonical really has their eye on the ball when it comes to their LTS releases. |
[1598.00 --> 1600.54] And cloud support is just fantastic as well. |
[1601.16 --> 1603.60] I mean, you could go with Debian without much penalty. |
[1603.82 --> 1606.78] The reason that I go with Ubuntu really is for a couple of reasons. |
[1607.16 --> 1610.68] The first is ZFS support baked right into the kernel. |
[1610.68 --> 1613.20] That may or may not be important to you. |
[1613.40 --> 1616.28] The other one is WireGuard support baked right in as well. |
[1616.36 --> 1619.88] So for both of those things, you only have to install the user space tool. |
[1619.98 --> 1623.26] You don't have to do any DKMS modules or anything crazy like that. |
[1623.78 --> 1625.58] You could do the same thing on Debian. |
[1625.84 --> 1631.94] And arguably, you know, if you're a freedom-respecting person, like I purport to be, |
[1632.20 --> 1633.74] I should be running Debian everywhere. |
[1633.74 --> 1637.30] But I don't like DKMS, so I run Ubuntu everywhere. |
[1637.30 --> 1637.58] Yeah. |
[1637.80 --> 1643.00] And having seen a bit behind the curtain for the Ubuntu development process, |
[1643.36 --> 1648.14] I am keenly aware of the kind of attention that Canonical puts into an LTS. |
[1648.32 --> 1650.64] It's not that they don't put a lot of work into their other releases, |
[1650.98 --> 1655.18] but they really want to make sure that thing is enterprise-grade and supportable |
[1655.18 --> 1657.30] for the time that they're committed to support it. |
[1657.30 --> 1663.30] And that means it just gets a level of polish and pass that maybe Debian 9 doesn't. |
[1663.30 --> 1665.92] I just wish they'd stop pushing snaps. |
[1666.54 --> 1670.08] You know, it's such easy fodder for people when they come to me and say, |
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