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[1670.14 --> 1673.18] oh, you shouldn't use Ubuntu because snaps are horrible. |
[1673.76 --> 1677.32] And, you know, when I want to install Docker, I don't want to install Docker as a snap. |
[1677.40 --> 1678.86] I just want it as a package and stuff. |
[1678.94 --> 1679.68] And I'm like, yeah. |
[1679.84 --> 1680.56] Well, yeah. |
[1680.60 --> 1684.66] I mean, you can go and grab the Docker dev file from wherever you like and install it. |
[1684.70 --> 1685.84] But the default is a snap. |
[1685.94 --> 1688.20] And as I always say, default is king. |
[1688.52 --> 1690.74] So yeah, I'm torn on that. |
[1690.74 --> 1692.64] I myself don't prefer it. |
[1692.78 --> 1698.16] But I've also heard from audience members who dip their toes into NextCloud for the first time |
[1698.16 --> 1701.48] because it was just a snap away and it was approachable for them. |
[1701.76 --> 1705.24] And, you know, like we got that email from the one guy who set it up on a snap first |
[1705.24 --> 1707.22] and then migrated it to a whole instance afterwards. |
[1708.00 --> 1714.66] I just don't like, I suppose, how snap is an Ubuntu canonical thing. |
[1714.66 --> 1719.06] I don't know, I can't really explain it or articulate it very well, |
[1719.20 --> 1722.50] but I feel like the packaging system should almost be vendor agnostic, |
[1722.70 --> 1727.10] which is kind of where Docker really wins or containers in general really win. |
[1727.42 --> 1728.10] Containers do, yeah. |
[1728.16 --> 1730.12] They'll just run on any Linux kernel. |
[1730.36 --> 1731.44] It doesn't really matter which. |
[1731.80 --> 1736.02] Yeah, I think there is some things that are always going to be vendor specific. |
[1736.40 --> 1738.80] Debian's always going to have apt and that's unique to them. |
[1738.80 --> 1740.98] You know, Debian and Debian derivatives. |
[1741.50 --> 1747.82] But there's some things that people really want to be vendor neutral in the Linux ecosystem. |
[1748.00 --> 1751.14] And it seems software distribution at that level is one of them. |
[1751.60 --> 1755.34] And I also can appreciate that a lot of projects want to host their own repositories. |
[1755.38 --> 1760.62] And I think that's what's really been nice for Flatpaks is you could host your own Flatpak repository. |
[1761.14 --> 1763.64] And, you know, I think our audience understands why people might prefer that. |
[1763.88 --> 1764.94] You can't do that with snaps. |
[1765.40 --> 1766.62] I mean, they have their place, don't they? |
[1766.62 --> 1770.26] But then again, when I'm on my desktop, I'll run Arch. |
[1770.76 --> 1773.54] Everything is just in one place. |
[1773.62 --> 1775.28] There's no installing repos. |
[1775.38 --> 1776.74] It's just all in the AUR. |
[1776.98 --> 1784.46] And if we could somehow get the AUR for every Linux distro, then problem solved, right? |
[1784.68 --> 1786.94] It sounds silly, but I agree so much. |
[1787.36 --> 1788.54] It's so nice. |
[1788.68 --> 1791.02] Just it's I manage everything with yay. |
[1791.36 --> 1792.88] It's yay for anything. |
[1793.18 --> 1796.00] And there's never any math of is this going to be isolated? |
[1796.00 --> 1796.86] Is this a Flatpak? |
[1796.94 --> 1797.52] Is this a Snap? |
[1797.60 --> 1798.54] Is this an app image? |
[1798.82 --> 1800.24] Is this an out of date version? |
[1800.36 --> 1801.86] I never have any of those questions. |
[1802.26 --> 1803.56] And you don't even have to Google it. |
[1803.68 --> 1807.00] You just search in yay first and nine times out of 10, you'll find it. |
[1807.36 --> 1809.06] It's so nice on the workstation side. |
[1809.14 --> 1810.78] Now, here's the thing, and I'll just wrap it up with this. |
[1811.22 --> 1817.18] Here's where I think snaps do play a role because I've seen this side of it too, is in the business world, it generally works. |
[1817.18 --> 1824.34] If you have something that's of a high value, like a piece of software like Adobe might have or Blackmagic or whoever, you want to talk to another company. |
[1824.46 --> 1830.54] You want to work with another company and you want to have a legal relationship and then you want to have like cross team relationships. |
[1830.54 --> 1841.92] So the packaging people at Plex, for example, interface with the Snap people at Canonical and they actually have a business to business relationship, Plex and Canonical. |
[1842.46 --> 1848.16] And there is a vendor relationship there where I think just for Plex, they package for everything. |
[1848.16 --> 1862.14] But I think a lot of companies like that kind of traditional relationship and that's a role where snaps can really kind of be more appealing to the commercial software industry because they can have an agreement with Canonical. |
[1862.34 --> 1864.14] They can distribute via Canonical store. |
[1864.76 --> 1869.66] It works on most distributions and they are the ones that can publish. |
[1870.66 --> 1877.38] I think that's really appealing to that type of business, but it just doesn't seem to really be appealing to community use cases as much. |
[1878.16 --> 1882.30] Despite all that I just said about snaps, I still use Ubuntu everywhere. |
[1883.02 --> 1884.68] Yeah, and you really learn the tricks. |
[1885.08 --> 1886.24] You know, you learn the tricks. |
[1886.44 --> 1890.22] I follow the directions on the Docker site for getting Docker set up really. |
[1890.30 --> 1891.52] I don't even use it from the repos. |
[1891.68 --> 1894.66] Yeah, get.docker.com and then pipe it to sudo bash, right? |
[1894.84 --> 1895.78] You could do that. |
[1896.02 --> 1897.02] You definitely could. |
[1897.14 --> 1897.84] What could go wrong? |
[1897.94 --> 1905.62] I thought maybe I should summarize like several emails we've gotten over the last couple of weeks since we talked about Powerline networking, which just super brief follow up. |
[1905.74 --> 1906.38] Still working awesome. |
[1906.38 --> 1909.98] I haven't even had to reset any of like the adapters or anything. |
[1910.20 --> 1911.64] They're still working great. |
[1912.18 --> 1913.62] It's like having Ethernet. |
[1913.70 --> 1914.46] It's so wonderful. |
[1914.54 --> 1915.24] It's just slightly slower. |
[1915.62 --> 1917.82] We have had a few people write in that have told me. |
[1918.34 --> 1922.98] Actually, we had a whole range of concerns like from my solar is going to generate too much interference. |
[1923.12 --> 1927.70] But of course, they're separate systems to turning my RV into a radio broadcast system. |
[1928.04 --> 1931.90] I don't think we've had a topic that has been quite so feedback generating. |
[1931.90 --> 1935.82] Yeah, it's really and a wide range of successes and failures. |
[1935.96 --> 1938.06] But there has been one consistent theme. |
[1938.28 --> 1941.98] And that is you got to go to the next level if you really want this to work great. |
[1942.22 --> 1944.58] And that is check out Ethernet over coax. |
[1944.76 --> 1947.34] People have been writing that in for a couple of weeks straight now. |
[1947.34 --> 1955.84] And the ActionTech MOCA network adapter for Ethernet over coax 2 pack has been linked a couple of times. |
[1955.84 --> 1961.14] And the word from these emails is it's night and day difference way better. |
[1961.38 --> 1966.44] If you if you've got coax pre run in your place, it's a way better route to go than power over Ethernet. |
[1967.26 --> 1968.94] Apparently haven't tested it myself. |
[1969.08 --> 1973.98] I do have a bit of coax, not in the areas where I would want to have servers. |
[1974.90 --> 1976.76] But I do have a bit of coax in the RV. |
[1976.88 --> 1978.98] So maybe at some point it could be useful. |
[1979.44 --> 1984.04] I could see maybe using it for like, say, a Nvidia Shield hookup or something where the TV is already at. |
[1984.04 --> 1985.30] And that's where a coax connection is. |
[1985.30 --> 1987.08] I think that's a perfect use case. |
[1987.20 --> 1990.26] Something I mean, a Shield's not going to be using crazy amounts of bandwidth. |
[1990.96 --> 1995.68] But the other thing to consider as well is that coax is a lot cheaper than Ethernet cable. |
[1996.14 --> 2008.84] And it can be purchased a lot cheaper than weatherproof Ethernet as well, which is also, you know, if you want to run it from the attic, say, down to your basement, probably the easiest route is going to be out the side of the building. |
[2009.20 --> 2011.14] And doing that with Ethernet could get expensive. |
[2011.14 --> 2013.90] So it's definitely an interesting thing. |
[2013.96 --> 2015.34] And it's not something I considered before. |
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