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Scott put in a really funny Easter egg about my hair here that we're talking about now. If you click on anybody's faces on the About page, you get a pretty cool effect. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Okay... That is your hair. \[laughter\] |
**Dan Lorenc:** I think it's a photoshopped, exaggerated version of my hair... But yeah. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Has the pandemic something to do with it? |
**Dan Lorenc:** Yeah, so my hair has had a couple of phases in the last few years. But yeah, I basically haven't gotten it cut since the pandemic started. There was a brief face where -- I have a very curly hair, and I was just kind of going out like this for a while... But as you can tell now, it kept growing, and it ... |
**Gerhard Lazu:** That's crazy. That is my favorite part, by the way... \[laughs\] |
**Dan Lorenc:** I think he was looking at the analytics stats for our page - because we've put an analytics thing on there - and the About page has more views than anything else on the website right now. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** \[laughs\] So we'll just pile on top of that. Alright. The effect on Kim - I think it looks the best. I tried all the faces, but I think her - it suits her. \[laughs\] |
**Dan Lorenc:** Yeah, I didn't even realize he did it for all of the faces at first. I thought it was just mine. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** For all of them, yeah. |
**Dan Lorenc:** Yeah, it took me a little bit to realize the full extent of the Easter egg. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** \[01:20:05.03\] Any other Easter eggs that you're aware of, that we should check out? |
**Dan Lorenc:** Not that I'm aware of... You can ask Scott Nichols. He probably has more. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Yeah, Scott, please... Stop working on features. Give us more Easter eggs. |
**Dan Lorenc:** Perfect. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** So why do you think that the world needs Chainguard then? |
**Dan Lorenc:** Yeah, I think we need something here. So I've been working on software supply chain security for probably the last three(ish) years, kind of full-time almost. I got worried about it a little bit before then... But yeah, I've been doing kind of nothing but that for about the last three years. The most of... |
So yeah, three years ago nobody even understood it, the term wasn't around, nobody cared about it... We were kind of running around, telling everybody "You should be paying attention to what goes into these containers" and everybody said "Oh, we have other problems. This is fine." Until probably a year and a half ago w... |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Yeah. |
**Dan Lorenc:** It led to government regulations, the EU is working on new standards, the U.S. government put out an executive order, calling for institutions to start figuring out what to do, and kind of change the way that we build software to fix all of this and make it more secure, leave a lot more of those kind of... |
**Gerhard Lazu:** I'm really glad that the world is taking this seriously; it was high time. And thank goodness nothing worse happened... But it is obvious that we have to act fast on this, and I'm glad that you, first of all, are a small team of crazy people that really believe in this. I think that is the best way of... |
I'm sure over the next year, next two years, this will just grow in popularity and importance, and I'm glad that someone like you is steering this. And when I say you, I mean Chainguard. |
**Dan Lorenc:** Well, thank you... |
**Gerhard Lazu:** So I know that you're back from KubeCon now... KubeCon is over for you, at least in person. What was it like to be there in person? |
**Dan Lorenc:** It wasn't as weird as I thought. I hadn't been around big crowds of people in a while, it's been a long time... I was at one smaller conference a couple of weeks ago and sort of warmed back up to it. It was just awesome to see the energy; I could tell the whole community needed this to get back together... |
**Gerhard Lazu:** I know that you had also Supply Chain Security Con. I almost called it Supply Chain Con. Crazy. \[laughs\] No, Supply Chain Security Con. Can even referred to it as a -1 event, which I think is important in relation to KubeCon. I really like that. How was that? |
**Dan Lorenc:** Yeah, so Supply Chain Security Con was a day -1 event - I think I kind of made up that term. KubeCon has kind of had a long history of having day zero events, or collocated events the day before the conference. There's just been so many topics to cover, and so on, since we've had a kubecon the organizer... |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Okay. So this makes me think of the coolness wall at Top Gear. I don't know if you remember that, I don't know if you watch Top Gear, but they had a wall and they used to rank cars... And sub zero were the really cool ones. Sub zero was like the coolest car category they had. So -1 sounds a bit like s... |
So as we are preparing to wrap this up, I have two more questions. Your favorite KubeCon moment, and what is coming in the next six months. |
**Dan Lorenc:** Oh, my favorite KubeCon moment was the talk from Jon Johnson Jr. and Dan Mangum, on crazy things you can do with OCI registries. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Oh, yes. |
**Dan Lorenc:** I can't wait until that recording gets posted, which you might have seen some of the buzz around on Twitter... They actually built a chat application. They worked inside of OCI-compliant container industries. That was just awesome. They answered the actual Q&A for the talk using this chat application. S... |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Amazing. What's happening in the next six months for Chainguard, for you...? Anything interesting? Are you getting a haircut? \[laughs\] |
**Dan Lorenc:** Probably, probably... It's getting a little long at this point. But yeah, for Chainguard we're figuring out what we're gonna be doing. Getting our feet under ourselves, and just trying to stay focused and double down on the awesome momentum we've had in Sigstore, and continuing to push that forward acro... |
So yeah, I look for hopefully even more Sigstore adoption than we're already seeing, and then starting to figure out what we're doing as a company. |
**Gerhard Lazu:** Dan, thank you very much for making the time. This has been an absolute pleasure. I'm looking forward to next time, and I hope it won't be that long before we meet again. Thank you very much. |
**Dan Lorenc:** Sure. Thanks a lot for having me. |
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