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[3799.32 --> 3801.80] stuff over my head when it comes to networking.
[3801.80 --> 3804.80] Something around cones and gnats and stuff.
[3804.98 --> 3807.02] Is it IPv4 or IPv6?
[3807.30 --> 3808.44] What network does it lay down?
[3808.52 --> 3809.20] Or dual stack?
[3809.36 --> 3809.56] Either.
[3809.86 --> 3810.12] Wow.
[3810.34 --> 3810.66] Okay.
[3810.80 --> 3811.74] I want to try it out.
[3812.02 --> 3813.62] I want to try out how it actually works.
[3813.78 --> 3814.44] It's pretty neat.
[3814.70 --> 3818.88] In fact, one of our engineers, he just created a video of him just spinning up Talos right
[3818.88 --> 3823.96] there in Kimu, right there on his laptop and then joined an AWS Graviton instance to it.
[3824.38 --> 3825.50] So it's pretty neat.
[3825.74 --> 3826.82] I'm super excited about it.
[3826.92 --> 3830.40] I will put that link in the show notes because that sounds like something which I would want to
[3830.40 --> 3830.82] try out.
[3830.92 --> 3831.66] That sounds amazing.
[3831.82 --> 3832.06] Okay.
[3832.26 --> 3832.50] Okay.
[3833.04 --> 3836.64] So shifting focus a little bit towards KubeCon and what's happening this week.
[3836.76 --> 3838.40] First of all, will you be attending in person?
[3838.66 --> 3839.00] I will.
[3839.24 --> 3839.86] I can't wait.
[3839.98 --> 3840.22] You will.
[3840.32 --> 3840.56] Okay.
[3840.78 --> 3841.18] Amazing.
[3841.40 --> 3842.84] What are you most looking forward to?
[3843.08 --> 3843.62] Meeting people?
[3843.72 --> 3844.18] Let me guess.
[3845.04 --> 3846.58] I just want to see another human.
[3847.08 --> 3848.74] That's exactly what it comes down to.
[3848.88 --> 3849.16] Okay.
[3849.16 --> 3851.06] No, actually, that is true.
[3851.16 --> 3855.80] But more specifically, the thing that I'm really looking forward to is meeting everybody
[3855.80 --> 3857.10] that works at Sedera Labs.
[3857.28 --> 3860.06] We've been fully remote for two years now.
[3860.14 --> 3863.32] I think I've only met a couple people that are currently at the company.
[3863.70 --> 3867.32] And I just can't wait for us all to get together and just have a dinner, you know, go to the
[3867.32 --> 3868.20] bar, whatever.
[3868.34 --> 3872.98] Just have a good time and actually not have to worry about seeing each other over pixelated
[3872.98 --> 3874.76] streams and audio issues.
[3874.76 --> 3879.60] So just seeing another human is going to be really nice and especially meeting everybody
[3879.60 --> 3880.56] that's a part of the company.
[3880.82 --> 3880.94] Wow.
[3881.32 --> 3883.62] So this is two out of three people.
[3883.92 --> 3888.84] Actually, both people that go to KubeCon in person, you and William Morgan, you're both
[3888.84 --> 3890.14] looking forward to the same thing.
[3890.72 --> 3894.48] William Morgan from Linkerd from Boolean, he was saying the same thing, like meeting the
[3894.48 --> 3898.26] rest of his company, meeting the community and meeting another human being.
[3898.34 --> 3899.56] Like he's really looking forward to that.
[3899.68 --> 3900.46] So, okay.
[3900.46 --> 3902.84] I think everybody, everybody's on the same page.
[3902.84 --> 3908.08] And I have to say that those that couldn't make it in person, myself including, we wish
[3908.08 --> 3908.78] we could be there.
[3908.98 --> 3912.48] But by the time EU comes along, I'm sure things will be easier.
[3912.72 --> 3917.28] And then next year for the next KubeCon, North America, I hope to be there in person and meet
[3917.28 --> 3921.68] all the great people that, you know, KubeCon is so big, like you can never meet everybody
[3921.68 --> 3922.46] that you want to.
[3922.82 --> 3925.60] But at least there will be fewer people this year.
[3925.64 --> 3928.58] So it will be a bit better for meeting in person.
[3928.82 --> 3928.92] Yeah.
[3929.22 --> 3932.66] And, you know, speaking of EU, we will be there as well, too.
[3932.66 --> 3934.96] So, you know, we can see each other then.
[3935.20 --> 3935.46] Amazing.
[3935.62 --> 3935.82] Okay.
[3936.02 --> 3936.28] Yes.
[3936.62 --> 3936.82] Take.
[3937.52 --> 3942.54] So what advice do you have for the people that can't attend the conference in person?
[3942.70 --> 3943.88] Anything that you recommend to them?
[3944.18 --> 3948.24] You know, nothing I think that you're not going to get from the CNCF as far as their
[3948.24 --> 3949.04] recommendations go.
[3949.16 --> 3950.24] Attend the virtual booths.
[3950.68 --> 3953.24] I would say join the CNCF Slack.
[3953.44 --> 3958.68] That was really fun when I did KubeCon EU, just talking to people and just all kinds of
[3958.68 --> 3959.46] random channels.
[3959.70 --> 3960.72] That was a blast.
[3960.72 --> 3965.84] It did a decent job of giving me that, you know, camaraderie that I wanted, that you're
[3965.84 --> 3967.18] looking for when you go to KubeCon.
[3967.30 --> 3970.24] So I'd say that that's the, you should sign up for that immediately.
[3970.52 --> 3970.80] Okay.
[3971.14 --> 3973.50] And what about the people that want to do catch up videos?
[3973.50 --> 3977.38] Because for example, it may be too late in the night for them and they can't, you know,
[3977.64 --> 3978.90] be up all hours.
[3979.14 --> 3980.48] Anything you would tell them?
[3980.92 --> 3984.20] Set aside enough time because there are a lot of really cool things.
[3984.20 --> 3988.78] And just try to prioritize and, you know, because you're not going to get through all of them.
[3989.16 --> 3993.26] Figure out the ones that probably are most applicable to you, things you're most excited
[3993.26 --> 3996.08] about and, you know, just have fun watching them.
[3996.28 --> 3998.26] Speaking about that, which talks are you excited about?
[3998.46 --> 3999.34] Anything in particular?
[3999.68 --> 4005.56] I've noticed my taste has changed ever since I've become into a role where I'm playing more
[4005.56 --> 4007.46] of a management role and business role.
[4007.46 --> 4011.22] I do get hands-on technically, but less and less so over time.
[4011.50 --> 4017.06] So I'm finding myself gravitating more towards things like, you know, building community.
[4017.30 --> 4021.86] There's a particular talk on how to make contributors, maintainers, building your brand,
[4022.24 --> 4022.96] stuff like that.
[4023.22 --> 4024.46] Technical stuff.
[4024.80 --> 4030.26] There is one on supply chain that I want to go look at, but I am reserving a lot of time
[4030.26 --> 4032.84] for just talking to people as well.