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[789.50 --> 792.76] So the kind of step one is usually Hello World.
[793.00 --> 795.80] I think that's step one in any programming scenario.
[795.80 --> 802.58] And running a little program in the kernel that will just trace out Hello World in response
[802.58 --> 806.76] to perhaps a system call or perhaps a network event.
[806.94 --> 808.84] And that's very easy to set up.
[809.10 --> 815.40] Then maybe we go down the direction of like, how do we get information in and out of the
[815.40 --> 815.68] kernel?
[815.68 --> 821.70] So there's a concept in eBPF called Maps, where they're shared data structures so that
[821.70 --> 827.70] we can pass information between BPF programs or into user space between the kernel and user
[827.70 --> 828.10] space.
[828.26 --> 830.18] Or maybe we go in a networking direction.
[830.42 --> 834.32] I did a virtual office hours yesterday where I did some code.
[834.42 --> 839.94] Live coding maybe is, I made my life easier in yesterday's virtual office hours by having
[839.94 --> 843.30] some pre-prepared code and sort of commenting and uncommenting things out.
[843.30 --> 845.64] But it's all running live.
[846.00 --> 850.52] So I think that's the best way to approach it, if you think about it, because live coding,
[850.68 --> 854.04] it's about like going through it and explaining to users, this is what this does, less about
[854.04 --> 854.54] like typing.
[854.74 --> 857.20] I think that's like the least interesting part.
[857.32 --> 859.92] And it's how you think about things and how you start structuring things.
[859.92 --> 861.46] I think that is really, really helpful.
[862.06 --> 863.28] So, but yes, I will.
[863.58 --> 865.28] Today, do you have a live coding session?
[865.42 --> 869.06] Yeah, I've got one 6.30 UK time today.
[869.40 --> 869.66] Okay.
[869.72 --> 872.72] And another one tomorrow that I think is a little bit earlier.
[872.72 --> 873.08] Okay.
[873.20 --> 873.78] Check my calendar.
[873.78 --> 874.00] Okay.
[874.44 --> 874.74] Great.
[875.06 --> 875.66] Thank you for that.
[876.08 --> 876.36] Okay.
[876.66 --> 882.32] So I know that this KubeCon, one of the things that you do is you have a talk, cloud native
[882.32 --> 883.88] superpowers with eBPF.
[884.04 --> 885.16] I know that it's really late for you.
[885.24 --> 886.98] 12.30 you said I was looking.
[887.24 --> 889.28] So I intend to join and keep you awake.
[889.30 --> 890.20] Oh, thank you.
[890.48 --> 891.18] How are you with heckling?
[891.28 --> 891.92] Do you like heckling?
[892.06 --> 892.90] I love heckling.
[893.12 --> 894.34] I love questions.
[894.68 --> 895.24] Okay, great.
[895.40 --> 895.70] Okay.
[895.78 --> 896.42] Okay, great.
[896.50 --> 897.58] So that's what I intend to do.
[897.64 --> 898.10] That sounds good.
[898.20 --> 898.38] Okay.
[898.58 --> 898.98] Fantastic.
[898.98 --> 901.82] I know that Duffy Cooley recently joined you.
[902.00 --> 903.34] What's it been like working with him?
[903.42 --> 904.98] And by the way, hi, Duffy, if you're listening.
[905.76 --> 906.74] Yeah, Duffy is great.
[906.84 --> 909.56] We're so pleased that he's joined us at iSurveillance.
[909.80 --> 912.08] He's in LA at the moment.
[912.08 --> 916.10] And so he and Dan, our CEO, are our kind of onsite presence.
[916.66 --> 919.64] And then most of the team are kind of involved more remotely.
[920.06 --> 922.44] But yeah, we're super excited to have Duffy.
[922.60 --> 927.34] And he's such a great, he's got so much experience in networking as well.
[927.52 --> 931.58] I've always sort of known him more on a sort of security and obviously Kubernetes background.
[931.94 --> 935.64] Turns out he has loads of network experience as well.
[935.74 --> 937.30] So he's fabulous to have on board.
[937.30 --> 937.66] Okay.
[938.08 --> 942.72] Do you get to pair with him or just bounce ideas of what does working with him look like?
[942.82 --> 945.18] I know that you have shows, live shows with him.
[945.48 --> 946.30] I know about that.
[946.42 --> 947.76] What happens outside of that?
[948.06 --> 949.60] Yeah, so we are eight hours different.
[949.76 --> 953.18] So that makes it a little bit more difficult to collaborate than ideal.
[953.40 --> 958.20] But yeah, we're definitely figuring out some of the ways that we want to tell stories.
[958.50 --> 962.16] Some of the, you know, doing Echo, which is our live stream.
[962.26 --> 963.58] That's a lot of fun to do together.
[963.58 --> 967.52] And yeah, it's a delight to have him in the company.
[967.96 --> 968.48] That sounds great.
[969.04 --> 972.58] Speaking about KubeCon, I know that you'll be remote, virtual.
[972.86 --> 974.84] I've seen even like your Twitter tagline change.
[974.92 --> 976.58] I'm thinking everything the same, but it's a great idea.
[976.68 --> 977.88] I'll be at KubeCon, but virtually.
[978.06 --> 980.56] So I'll be there, but you won't see me unless it's online.
[980.96 --> 982.94] What are you looking forward to the most at this KubeCon?
[983.26 --> 985.20] Well, I'll be completely honest.
[985.32 --> 991.22] I'm very much looking forward to the project updates announcements about new projects joining
[991.22 --> 992.10] the CNCF.
[992.20 --> 994.34] That's only in about an hour away from now.
[994.56 --> 1001.20] So keep your eye out for a project that we know and love becoming a CNCF project.
[1001.78 --> 1002.90] I'm looking forward to that.
[1003.02 --> 1003.20] Okay.
[1003.48 --> 1006.52] By the way, this goes live, I think about in about two weeks.
[1006.88 --> 1010.10] So if there's announcements that you want to make, you can, because it's going to be
[1010.10 --> 1010.70] post-KubeCon.
[1010.90 --> 1013.04] So if there's anything like that, it's fine.
[1013.16 --> 1013.98] In that case.
[1014.44 --> 1014.72] Go on.
[1015.08 --> 1015.52] I'll trust you.
[1015.52 --> 1016.44] It's only an hour away anyway.
[1016.44 --> 1023.06] It's not really even a secret, but we officially announced today that Cilium is becoming a CNCF
[1023.06 --> 1024.72] incubation level project.
[1024.96 --> 1028.36] So I'm excited about that as a Cilium person.
[1028.36 --> 1034.86] And I'm excited about that as a TOC person, because it means we've got networking, you know,
[1034.86 --> 1037.00] finally on the landscape.