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[1037.00 --> 1041.46] We've got a couple of sandbox projects, but we didn't have anything that was really, you |
[1041.46 --> 1047.42] know, production hardened, filling that kind of CNI box on the landscape. |
[1047.74 --> 1054.26] So I feel like that's a really nice box that we're ticking from a CNCF perspective and obviously |
[1054.26 --> 1057.78] hugely exciting from a Cilium community perspective. |
[1058.20 --> 1058.98] That sounds amazing. |
[1059.16 --> 1059.34] Wow. |
[1059.48 --> 1059.72] Okay. |
[1060.00 --> 1060.32] Right. |
[1060.74 --> 1064.62] I mean, you just added like another big reason why I want to do certain things, but yeah. |
[1064.62 --> 1064.86] Okay. |
[1064.94 --> 1065.20] Okay. |
[1065.40 --> 1066.56] Let me not get ahead of myself. |
[1066.68 --> 1067.34] I always do that. |
[1067.40 --> 1068.02] I get too excited. |
[1068.20 --> 1069.06] I mean, this sounds great. |
[1069.06 --> 1070.50] I'm really looking forward to that, by the way. |
[1070.50 --> 1075.26] So for the people that can attend KubeCon in person, like you and me, what would you |
[1075.26 --> 1075.64] recommend? |
[1076.24 --> 1080.28] How would you recommend they feel part of it without actually being there in person? |
[1080.58 --> 1087.28] For me, I find that the interaction, even if it's chat, is what makes me feel connected |
[1087.28 --> 1088.08] to people. |
[1088.90 --> 1094.28] So, and also if you're attending a talk and there are speakers, speakers love getting |
[1094.28 --> 1094.74] questions. |
[1094.74 --> 1096.80] It kind of shows that you're paying attention. |
[1096.80 --> 1101.78] So don't be shy, type those questions in, or if you are able to be there in person, |
[1102.00 --> 1102.94] ask the questions. |
[1103.36 --> 1108.88] And I also think, although it can sometimes be a little bit kind of difficult to take the |
[1108.88 --> 1114.10] leap into, you know, turning your camera on in some kind of hallway track event. |
[1114.10 --> 1119.16] But if you do get, you know, if you're tempted to even slightly tempted, it can be so rewarding |
[1119.16 --> 1121.70] to get into a, you know, a video chat. |
[1121.70 --> 1124.48] You know, sometimes there'll be virtual office hours. |
[1124.70 --> 1129.24] I think they'll probably, I think for us in our time zone, most of the sort of social |
[1129.24 --> 1133.32] hallway track events are likely to be in the middle of the night. |
[1133.48 --> 1135.88] So maybe I'll be doing less of that this time. |
[1136.14 --> 1138.50] But, and get into Slack. |
[1138.70 --> 1141.20] There'll be loads of people watching. |
[1141.50 --> 1145.56] I'm, every time I go on Twitter and I see a photo of someone, you know, and I'm thinking, |
[1145.82 --> 1148.08] they're in LA and I'm kind of jealous. |
[1148.48 --> 1151.98] But I also know there are lots of us who aren't able to be there. |
[1152.02 --> 1153.10] So we're all in the same boat. |
[1153.36 --> 1156.92] And I'm sure we all chat to each other, whatever time zone we're in. |
[1157.30 --> 1157.56] That's right. |
[1157.68 --> 1158.80] Slack does help. |
[1158.88 --> 1161.64] I have to say at KubeQ and EU, I know it was in our time zone. |
[1161.72 --> 1164.52] So that made some things easier, but it was still virtual. |
[1164.52 --> 1165.68] So we had to adapt to that. |
[1165.68 --> 1170.42] So having Slack helped the happy hours, the impromptu ad hoc sessions where like a bunch |
[1170.42 --> 1174.22] of us would get together, whether it was four or five of us and would like talk. |
[1174.22 --> 1176.82] That would really help to meet people that you would normally meet. |
[1177.14 --> 1182.06] And it was like, I never had like a bad conversation, even though people that I've met for the first |
[1182.06 --> 1182.38] time. |
[1182.46 --> 1183.76] So that was, that was a good experience. |
[1184.14 --> 1187.34] I think the virtual office hours, that is a great idea. |
[1187.70 --> 1192.00] Conversations like these help and like more of this happening live would help for sure. |
[1192.82 --> 1195.16] But I think we're all trying to figure this out, right? |
[1195.18 --> 1197.12] And we don't expect it to be permanent. |
[1197.36 --> 1202.24] I mean, it's now, I think this was like an unfortunate situation because from November, |
[1202.24 --> 1205.78] I know that UK and much of Europe can go to the US. |
[1206.02 --> 1207.70] So it was just bad timing, I suppose. |
[1207.70 --> 1207.94] Yeah. |
[1208.18 --> 1212.98] Although I hope that we do keep some of this virtual element going, because I think there |
[1212.98 --> 1217.92] are a lot of people who, you know, for financial reasons or, you know, commitment reasons, or, |
[1218.10 --> 1223.56] you know, there are many reasons beyond COVID why people can't necessarily make it to an event. |
[1223.56 --> 1230.48] So I think if we can maintain some of the virtual elements, I do think that that brings more |
[1230.48 --> 1235.08] people in and, you know, won't ever be quite the same as being there in person, but it is |
[1235.08 --> 1236.78] still an opportunity to connect. |
[1237.30 --> 1242.50] And as you're going to say, the platform that they're using this time around seems quite |
[1242.50 --> 1248.52] good for certainly when I did the virtual office hours yesterday, it works and you can |
[1248.52 --> 1251.04] have conversations with people. |
[1251.04 --> 1252.88] So, you know, we're getting there. |
[1253.54 --> 1254.70] That is a very interesting perspective. |
[1254.80 --> 1257.12] And I do have to say, it makes a lot of sense, right? |
[1257.58 --> 1262.04] Especially for, as you mentioned, people for which traveling is difficult, right? |
[1262.08 --> 1267.58] It is a considerable financial investment for many attendees and it just opens up, right? |
[1267.60 --> 1273.06] We have so many more people joining this wonderful community that I don't think they would have |
[1273.06 --> 1273.96] the opportunity otherwise. |
[1274.30 --> 1277.02] So in a way, it is a blessing in disguise. |
[1277.12 --> 1280.30] And I think I did talk about this at some point, but I forgot about that. |
[1280.30 --> 1280.82] And you're right. |
[1280.94 --> 1282.12] So thank you for reminding me. |
[1282.56 --> 1287.54] So as we are preparing to wrap up, I'm wondering if there's anything interesting happening for |
[1287.54 --> 1292.04] eBPF or Cilium in the next six months that you would like to share? |
[1292.04 --> 1296.22] Well, I guess we've started off with those weekly install fests. |
[1296.38 --> 1298.42] So that's our kind of initial thing. |
[1298.50 --> 1305.28] I mean, I think from a feature roadmap perspective, there are some pretty interesting things coming |
[1305.28 --> 1308.96] down the pipeline and in particular, I think Kern or Service Mesh. |
[1309.30 --> 1313.92] In general, I think the whole Service Mesh space is pretty confusing right now. |
[1313.98 --> 1319.38] And I think we are seeing some evolution in the different products that are out there. |
[1319.54 --> 1322.14] And Cilium is definitely going to be a big part of that story. |
[1322.14 --> 1322.62] Okay. |
[1323.26 --> 1327.90] Well, I didn't need any more reasons, but I got them to watch this even more closely, |
[1328.06 --> 1333.30] try it out for myself and try running it in production just to see what's it like with |
[1333.30 --> 1337.94] some significant amounts of traffic to see how it holds up, to see what it shows us. |
[1338.08 --> 1339.34] I'm really excited about that. |
[1339.62 --> 1345.58] And if you do have any questions or issues, the Cilium Slack community is super helpful. |
[1345.94 --> 1348.40] So jump in there and let us know how you get on. |
[1348.56 --> 1349.10] We want to hear. |
[1349.10 --> 1350.32] That's another great tip. |
[1350.44 --> 1350.92] Thank you, Liz. |
[1350.98 --> 1352.20] Thank you very much for making the time. |
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