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[1582.14 --> 1584.46] It's usually a very early problem early |
[1584.46 --> 1586.72] on or they're off to the races and |
[1586.72 --> 1589.08] then asking more advanced items out |
[1589.08 --> 1589.46] of the gate. |
[1589.52 --> 1591.70] So there's this pendulum that swings in |
[1591.70 --> 1593.72] their experience, I find, where they're |
[1593.72 --> 1594.74] like, oh, that was awesome. |
[1594.82 --> 1595.40] What's next? |
[1595.40 --> 1595.84] Right. |
[1596.26 --> 1596.92] In the beginning. |
[1597.28 --> 1597.50] Right. |
[1597.58 --> 1598.96] Well, you know, until recently. |
[1599.28 --> 1600.16] Thanks, Go team. |
[1600.80 --> 1603.22] Go path was a nightmare. |
[1604.22 --> 1606.82] So once you got through that hurdle, |
[1607.20 --> 1609.06] after you're like ready to throw your |
[1609.06 --> 1611.04] computer and then you build something, |
[1611.26 --> 1612.34] you're feeling better. |
[1612.50 --> 1614.64] But I think that the hurdle of setting |
[1614.64 --> 1616.50] up your Go path was such a nightmare |
[1616.50 --> 1618.30] that people were just like, no, no. |
[1618.36 --> 1620.18] If this is just set up, how's it going |
[1620.18 --> 1620.48] to be? |
[1620.84 --> 1621.50] Oh, absolutely. |
[1621.50 --> 1623.44] And getting that to be set out of the |
[1623.44 --> 1625.06] default was the most brewing thing that |
[1625.06 --> 1625.44] could happen. |
[1625.44 --> 1627.06] So I think that's one of the reasons |
[1627.06 --> 1629.48] why, like, you see PHP being so popular |
[1629.48 --> 1630.40] still to this day. |
[1630.64 --> 1632.40] And I still think one of the big reasons |
[1632.40 --> 1634.56] it was was because if you knew very |
[1634.56 --> 1636.92] little, you could find a free PHP server |
[1636.92 --> 1639.48] and just upload a file or your FTP in or |
[1639.48 --> 1640.64] something and connect to and change a |
[1640.64 --> 1642.02] file and you would see results like you |
[1642.02 --> 1643.28] didn't have to understand or install |
[1643.28 --> 1644.64] anything and you could get stuff working. |
[1644.64 --> 1646.54] And I think like every new language |
[1646.54 --> 1648.14] should strive for as much simplicity |
[1648.14 --> 1648.82] as possible. |
[1649.22 --> 1650.16] Like, that's one of the reasons why I |
[1650.16 --> 1652.66] love the Go Playground, because I'm |
[1652.66 --> 1654.02] glad they thought about like we need |
[1654.02 --> 1655.36] some way for somebody to quickly and |
[1655.36 --> 1657.42] easily just write some code and you |
[1657.42 --> 1658.58] like, yeah, it's limited to the standard |
[1658.58 --> 1659.84] library and some stuff like that. |
[1659.90 --> 1661.58] But it's still a great learning tool |
[1661.58 --> 1663.00] for somebody who, you know, like you |
[1663.00 --> 1664.24] said, couldn't install it for some |
[1664.24 --> 1666.12] reason or they just want to see it |
[1666.12 --> 1667.58] before they actually spend that time. |
[1667.74 --> 1669.42] Because I think if we don't focus on |
[1669.42 --> 1671.22] that some there's languages like |
[1671.22 --> 1672.78] JavaScript where, you know, you can |
[1672.78 --> 1674.76] have interactive tutorials really, |
[1674.90 --> 1675.88] really easily in JavaScript. |
[1676.62 --> 1677.74] And, you know, somebody can just |
[1677.74 --> 1678.94] bring up Chrome and open up Chrome |
[1678.94 --> 1680.50] DevTools and write some JavaScript. |
[1680.96 --> 1682.48] So like, you know, the barrier to |
[1682.48 --> 1684.44] entry there is so small that I think |
[1684.44 --> 1685.54] it's important for other languages |
[1685.54 --> 1686.50] to keep that in mind. |
[1687.16 --> 1688.98] Yeah, this is a good thing that I |
[1688.98 --> 1690.50] kind of was wondering, like how much |
[1690.50 --> 1692.12] is set up a part of learning Go |
[1692.12 --> 1693.02] versus other languages? |
[1693.02 --> 1694.58] And you mentioned PHP and Java. |
[1694.82 --> 1697.38] And if it's different, what are some |
[1697.38 --> 1700.32] of the setup gotchas in addition or |
[1700.32 --> 1701.42] you think are going to be the setup |
[1701.42 --> 1703.72] gotchas or the learning gotchas? |
[1704.16 --> 1705.54] And maybe we can ask for audience |
[1705.54 --> 1707.84] participation on the GoTime FM |
[1707.84 --> 1708.50] Slack channel. |
[1708.98 --> 1710.26] Well, some of these show offs are |
[1710.26 --> 1712.54] saying that GoPath made perfect |
[1712.54 --> 1713.36] sense to them. |
[1713.90 --> 1715.78] So good job, guys. |
[1715.98 --> 1716.64] Good job. |
[1717.06 --> 1718.70] I think the problem with it was like |
[1718.70 --> 1720.16] it either made sense to you or it |
[1720.16 --> 1721.06] made no sense to you. |
[1721.16 --> 1722.12] There was no middle ground. |
[1722.80 --> 1723.24] Yes. |
[1723.58 --> 1725.04] And it was also very platform |
[1725.04 --> 1726.40] specific as well, right? |
[1726.40 --> 1727.28] Because at that point when you're |
[1727.28 --> 1728.54] hooking into environment variables |
[1728.54 --> 1730.50] or whatever your platform is, |
[1730.52 --> 1731.80] you can get stuck in the details |
[1731.80 --> 1733.00] of your particular platform. |
[1733.66 --> 1735.14] Yeah, especially because a lot of |
[1735.14 --> 1736.26] beginners are coming from Windows |
[1736.26 --> 1737.72] and like setting environment |
[1737.72 --> 1739.24] variables has always seemed easier |
[1739.24 --> 1739.58] to me. |
[1739.68 --> 1741.22] And, you know, in Mac or Linux, |
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