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**Angelica Hill:** Moral of the story is greenfield rewrites are not always the right direction to go. You need to sit, take some time, think it through, identify the core issues, and then get really good - nod to your wonderful series, Kris - at maintaining your software and your technology. |
**Jon Sabados:** Yeah. I think I have participated in one successful greenfield rewrite in my 20-year career. |
**Angelica Hill:** And where was that, Jon? |
**Jon Sabados:** That was with us. |
**Angelica Hill:** And who is your product manager? \[laughs\] |
**Jon Sabados:** That is with the Times, yup. |
**Kris Brandow:** I also have a side note about the term "greenfield", which I find hilarious... Because if you want to have an actual greenfield, someone has to maintain that. If you go into nature, you don't find a lot of greenfield -- you find a lot of mud pits and stuff, and all that overgrown grass and stuff. But ... |
**Angelica Hill:** The grass is always greener on the other side... |
**Kris Brandow:** Because the other person actually maintains their lawn, unlike you... Right? \[laughs\] Their grass is greener because they take care of it. You go over there, it might be green for a little bit, but then your old grass is going to be greener, because that person maintains it now. So it's like, no, ju... |
**Angelica Hill:** I feel we're getting into the Canterbury tales here |
**Kris Brandow:** This is what happens when you have two writers on a podcast, Angelica... |
**Angelica Hill:** I know. |
**Kris Brandow:** We just feed off each other. |
**Angelica Hill:** Don't even get me started on Shakespeare and references... We'll be here all night. To rewrite or not to rewrite? That is the question... \[laughs\] Whether it is greener on the other side... Okay, I'm gonna stop now. But I can go on for days. |
Great! Well, regrettably, we have to move on to our next section, because I wanna hear your unpopular opinions. But it's been an absolute pleasure chatting about legacy code, and I'm sure myself and Kris have many an episode as a follow-up we now will like to do. |
**Kris Brandow:** This maintenance mini-series is becoming a series. It's just kind of expanding. |
**Angelica Hill:** Yes. I feel like we should stop calling it mini and just go with "This is a series. Maintenance is important. It's a thing." We should make its own little theme tune; I'm ready, Kris. Let's whip out the keyboard. I'll do the vocals, and I'll rap a little bit; it'll be great. |
**Kris Brandow:** A new jingle. We'll make that a note for Jerod. Hey, Jerod, we need a jingle for the maintenance series. |
**Angelica Hill:** Yeah. And on the topic of jingles... Here's our unpopular opinion one. Smooth transition... |
**Jingle:** \[01:03:34.16\] to \[01:03:50.28\] |
**Angelica Hill:** So... For all you lovelies who have not heard Go Time unpopular opinions before, this is where we ask our lovely guests, and also Kris if we have time, for an unpopular opinion. It does not need to be about Go, it does not need to be about technology. It can be about your aunt's favorite sock collect... |
First I'm gonna turn over to you, Jeff, for an unpopular opinion. Now, the goal of this is to come up with an opinion that you believe will be unpopular, because we're gonna post this opinion, we're gonna tweet about it, have our lovely gopher community vote on it, and then we're gonna tell you what percentage unpopula... |
**Kris Brandow:** And if it's popular, you have to come back. |
**Angelica Hill:** Yeah. If it's popular, we're getting you back on Go Time to grill you again, to get a better unpopular opinion. |
**Jeff Hernandez:** What if I just use that as the way to keep coming back on the show? I just keep giving popular opinions, because I like it here. |
**Angelica Hill:** Oh, we'll sniff you out. We're savvy individuals on this show. |
**Jeff Hernandez:** So I've been racking my brain with this ever since I agreed to be on Go Time, so I don't think I have anything Earth-shattering like Jon's previous unpopular opinion... But what I came up with is I do not like any type of yogurt. I feel like that's a very popular snack that people like to eat. I jus... |
So I bought Greek yogurt as a substitute for sour cream, because I heard that's like a good, healthy substitute... And it was my first time actually trying it. I opened up the container and it just smelled really funky. I told my college roommate at the time, "Did this go bad?" And he came over and smelled it, and he's... |
**Angelica Hill:** \[laughs\] Wait, are we talking just like plain, or are we talking like mixed in with some granola and fruit? |
**Jeff Hernandez:** Any... |
**Angelica Hill:** You also don't like it? |
**Jeff Hernandez:** I don't like any yogurt. I've never been like a yogurt person. |
**Angelica Hill:** Like, Greek only? Are we talking about Yop, like drinkable yogurt? |
**Jeff Hernandez:** No yogurt. No yogurt. |
**Angelica Hill:** Oh my gosh, this is like an umbrella yogurt ban in the Jeff household. |
**Jeff Hernandez:** Basically, yes. \[laughs\] |
**Kris Brandow:** Fascinatingly, I thought I always hated Greek yogurt, and for some reason I know like Greek yogurt, and I don't know why. So I'm kind of on the opposite spectrum as you. |
**Angelica Hill:** Well, Kris, you know, your taste buds do mature as you age, so... \[laughter\] That's a good unpopular opinion. I love yogurt. I love Greek yogurt. Also, it's very good for your digestion, I'm told, and it has things called active things... \[laughter\] Active -- what are they called? |
**Jeff Hernandez:** Probiotics? |
**Angelica Hill:** Yes. They have active probiotics that are apparently, I've been told, being brainwashed by the media, are very good for my digestion... But I have no scientific facts to back up that view. But I will after this google it and check. Maybe as you get older, like Kris, you'll develop a taste. |
**Jeff Hernandez:** I get all my active probiotics from Yakult, if anyone else has had that. I don't know what I would describe it as, but it's like a small little drink. It's not yogurt, as far as I know... But that's where I receive my active probiotics, since I don't have any yogurt. |
**Angelica Hill:** World's leading probiotic beverage created in Japan, in 1935, and is now sold in over 40 countries. |
**Jeff Hernandez:** And it's not yogurt, so... |
**Angelica Hill:** And it's not yogurt. I actually felt like it was, and I was gonna google it in the hopes that I would catch you out... But it's not. |
**Jeff Hernandez:** I've done my research, so... You won't catch me. |
**Angelica Hill:** Misha! Unpopular opinion. |
**Misha Avrekh:** Let's see... Alright, so my unpopular opinion, that is not about Go, is that CSS is a full-fledged programming language that will someday replace all other programming languages. Now I just need to figure out how to rewrite all of my backend microservices in CSS. |
**Kris Brandow:** \[laughs\] |
**Angelica Hill:** I don't even know how to respond to that one. |
**Jeff Hernandez:** You broke my brain, I think. |
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