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**Misha Avrekh:** That will solve the legacy problem, for sure. |
**Angelica Hill:** Yeah, let's just write everything in CSS... |
**Jon Sabados:** Does it have to be CSS, or can I write it in Sass, and then transpile it to CSS? |
**Misha Avrekh:** \[01:08:20.08\] Sass is fine. |
**Jon Sabados:** Okay. |
**Angelica Hill:** Getting snazzy with it here. |
**Kris Brandow:** Well, you can do math in CSS now, so I can kind of see how you could create a virtual machine out of C but the bytecode is CSS, and then... Oh, God. Now we're gonna wind up with someone writing a C compiler that compiles C into CSS, that can actually -- ah, this is terrible. |
**Angelica Hill:** What have we started...? \[laughs\] I would be surprised if that was not unpopular. That's a very good unpopular opinion. |
**Misha Avrekh:** Thank you. |
**Angelica Hill:** But I do now really want someone to do that. I want to see this compiler. |
**Misha Avrekh:** It's a challenge. |
**Angelica Hill:** Dominic, over to you. In fact, Misha, you can do it, and we can come back on the show and talk about it. |
**Kris Brandow:** You've just gotta write it in Go. |
**Misha Avrekh:** Sounds good. |
**Angelica Hill:** I'm ready. Though I swear that defeats the purpose... If you write it in Go, is it not then fully CSS? |
**Kris Brandow:** You can eventually bootstrap it so it's self-hosting on CSS, but you'd have to write it in some -- |
**Angelica Hill:** Does that count? |
**Kris Brandow:** Yeah. Go is written in Go, but it didn't start off being written in Go. It started off being written in C. |
**Angelica Hill:** Oh, okay... Misha, and the definition for your unpopular opinion that you just came up with - does that count? |
**Misha Avrekh:** Yeah, that would count, yes. |
**Angelica Hill:** Can we do this? Okay. It's official now. \[laughs\] Dominic, hit me. Unpopular opinion. |
**Dominic St-Pierre:** Well, last time I thought it was the highest I could go, so let's see... |
**Angelica Hill:** Clearly not, because you're back. |
**Dominic St-Pierre:** Clearly not, exactly. GitHub Copilot will do more harm than good, I think. |
**Kris Brandow:** Oh, that's not gonna be unpopular. |
**Dominic St-Pierre:** Yeah... |
**Kris Brandow:** \[laughs\] |
**Angelica Hill:** It's more of an opinion that needs to be put out there. |
**Dominic St-Pierre:** Yeah, I know... I was supposed to think about -- maybe I will pass, because like I was saying at the beginning, I caught the Covid yesterday. I was supposed to think about that yesterday, and to be frank, I did not, so... Yeah, let me pass on that. |
**Angelica Hill:** Shout-out to Dominic for doing Go Time with active Covid. |
**Dominic St-Pierre:** Yeah, it was rough. |
**Kris Brandow:** Real trooper. |
**Angelica Hill:** Yeah. Thank you so much. |
**Dominic St-Pierre:** Yeah, that's my unpopular opinion, in fact... Doing things with the Covid. |
**Angelica Hill:** Powering through. Alright, Jon, you are the person who holds one of the most unpopular Go Time opinions ever... Shameless plug to a previous Go Time episode where we go through all of our unpopular opinions of the year. I don't know exactly what number it is, but if you DM me, I'll let you know. It's... |
**Jon Sabados:** I'm gonna swing for the fences on this one and say that I think adding generics to Go was a mistake. |
**Kris Brandow:** Ooh... |
**Jon Sabados:** So while there are use cases where generics actually are very handy, I think overall I have seen more harm done with generics than in general... Because I think that it encourages developers to try and deduplicate things that are not necessarily the same. And when you're trying to reuse for the sake of... |
**Dominic St-Pierre:** I think like everything in life, balance will return at some point... But in my opinion, it will be good. Just think about all the loops that we are doing, that we will not be forced to do... Like removing an item from a slice, for example, or... I don't know. So I think for the next 6 months it ... |
**Jon Sabados:** Totally. And I totally get you with those loops and whatnot; there's cases where it totally makes sense. But I think that having those cases is the lesser sin from the abuse of generics that's going to follow. |
**Dominic St-Pierre:** \[01:12:09.21\] Yeah, I see the point. But I hope we will see a balance at some point. |
**Kris Brandow:** It's gonna be channels and goroutines all over again. People are just gonna sprinkle that stuff all over their codebases. It's gonna be "Oh, can I use a channel here? I'll use a channel. Oh, now I need to use seven channels? I'll use all seven of those channels, just because I can. I'll sprinkle gorou... |
**Angelica Hill:** Need I return to my first app ever, that I think Kris you've seen, where I literally ended up having 317 channels, individually written, partly because I didn't know you could know you could send stuff to one channel, but also because I just had fun. I was like, "I'm gonna create all these--" And the... |
**Kris Brandow:** Oh, boy... |
**Angelica Hill:** It was a lot of fun, but clearly not the right approach. |
**Jeff Hernandez:** Too fickle to maintain. |
**Angelica Hill:** Oh yeah, and then I added goroutines onto every single one. That was fun. \[laughs\] Yeah, Kris, I know you loved it when I showed you, like "Look how pretty it is." "Nooo...!" \[laughs\] Kris, do you have an unpopular opinion to finish us up with? |
**Kris Brandow:** I have many an unpopular opinion. I think I hold one of those most coveted unpopular opinions... |
**Angelica Hill:** You absolutely do. |
**Kris Brandow:** Okay, so this one is tech-related, not Go-related... But I think that we should kill off all C-like languages and C-derived languages, and get rid of the van Neumann architecture and move on as an industry. |
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