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**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, there was five, six meetings... This was after the shortlist was created... |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** After the shortlist, yeah. |
**Erik St. Martin:** To Johnny's point, too - to everybody who's ever submitted a talk... Like, we know emotionally there's a hit there, when your talk doesn't get accepted. But in a normal year - we're going to talk pre pandemic, because everything after is a mess... But pre-pandemic, we would get 300+ submissions, fo... |
\[26:03\] But I think the key thing here that Johnny pointed out is that because of the way this blind process works, we don't know anything about you. And so if you're super-vague about the talk that you're giving, why are you the person to give that perspective, right? And so if we can't look at your outline and abst... |
And topics that have been covered in the past aren't necessarily bad if you also are talking about like how you're building off of the talks that have been given in the past, or how your perspectives on that technology have changed over time, and things like that, where there's some new information, and it's not effect... |
And sometimes there is room for some of those topics that are just going to be regular topics that every new generation of gophers coming to the conference is going to need to see or hear. Then there's some of the technologies that are -- I don't want to call them fads... They're just - they're trends, right? Like, thi... |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** This year is GopherCon is all blockchain talks, folks. I'm kidding. I'm so kidding. \[laughs\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** Web 3. |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** It's Web 3. \[laughs\] No, no, no... We won't do that to you. |
**Angelica Hill:** So just so there's absolute clarity, the process is that we have this group of enthusiastic gophers, ideally at different levels, different experiences, that come together to form a kind of paper review committee. Is it that the chairs reach out to these people? If there are wonderful Go Time listene... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yes, there's obviously the GopherCon channel that's inside Slack. Myself, Heather, we all hang out there... So I don't always get to read all of the scrollback, but if you ping myself or Heather Sullivan who's in there, or Johnny, or Angelica, or anybody else who works with us in the CFP committee ... |
Obviously, there's a limited number of slots there... Often we'll reach out to people, especially like newer speakers and things like that; we'll do that. Because ideally, you want people who kind of -- there's two needs there, right? So one is fresh perspectives on what topics are important and exciting to the communi... |
\[30:02\] It's really hard to do at scale, giving everybody feedback... But if you're like on the 10-yard line, and we're like "I think this is a talk that could be super--" Especially if you've got a topic that's not done very often, that's really needed. I'll pick on a topic area that I'm super-passionate about, whic... |
**Angelica Hill:** The beauty of Go Time. |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Well, I can add some flavor to that, too... So one, reaching out to us - if you're interested in sort of helping out at any level here... So you don't have to be a speaker at the conference to actually help out the conference, right? So you can be a part of the review committee... And again, we'r... |
And sometimes we reach out to people, because we notice you. One of the things that people out there may not realize is that as active members of the community, we ourselves are always keeping an eye out for new blood, for fresh blood. So at some point, Erik's gonna retire from this; at some point, I will retire from t... |
**Erik St. Martin:** What are you trying to say here, Johnny? Are you kicking me out? |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** \[laughs\] |
**Angelica Hill:** These are the five reasons that I feel that I would qualify... \[laughter\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** It's a mutiny... I knew this was a setup! \[laughter\] |
**Angelica Hill:** This is actually your exit interview... |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** This is your exit interview. \[laughs\] We keep an eye out for people that are active members of the community, and we notice when somebody is, for lack of a better term, a nice member, a nice person to interact with, and sort of talk to... |
**Angelica Hill:** I think that Johnny cut out... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah. |
**Angelica Hill:** I think the moral of the story is that we've got our eyes out. If you're doing good work, if you're interested, if you're active, that doesn't go unnoticed. A big part of the work of the chairs and the work of those who are organizing GopherCon is to be in the Slack channels, to be going to the small... |
Personal story - when I was going into the GO community and I was like "Oh my gosh, GopherCon - this is so big. This is so cool. I aspire one day to speak at this amazing conference" and was talking to Johnny, and he was like "Angelica, just do it. Just put a proposal together and submit. If you don't get accepted, try... |
There is also a more formalized program around mentorship, and helping coach the speakers to be ready for stage... So even if you may have apprehension around like "Am I going to be okay at speaking? Am I going to be alright?" there are programs around helping you get on stage and be set up to succeed. |
Johnny was the reason why I ended up speaking at GopherCon, and it's a huge part of that kind of mentorship programming... And serendipitously, Johnny seems to now be back. So I'm gonna pick on you, Johnny, to talk a little bit about -- you missed my whole spiel about how you were just a really bad mentor to me, and yo... |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** \[34:12\] Oh, wow... \[laughs\] |
**Angelica Hill:** So this is your chance to defend your reputation. |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Redeem myself. |
**Angelica Hill:** Yeah. |
**Erik St. Martin:** The beatings will commence until morale improves. But I think also -- like, we talked about how we got here, and it's interesting... When this conference was started, we always believed that people who knew how to run tech events would come build the big Go conference. But I think that whole caring... |
And I know we're talking a lot about how do I get involved on the content side of things... So volunteering - if you've got a lot of public speaking experience and you want to mentor other people who are new to public speaking, that's a great way. But also, you can carve your own path. There's so much at the conference... |
**Break:** \[36:17\] |
**Angelica Hill:** We've talked a little bit about kind of how to get involved, the speakers, moral of the story being if you have even an inkling of a thought of a dream that you would like to be involved in or talk at GopherCon, just do it. But I want to hear a little bit about this year, because obviously, we're com... |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Wow...! |
**Angelica Hill:** So I am extremely excited. I will be a first-time in-person GopherCon attendee. |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** That is amazing. I hadn't realized that. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, me neither. |
**Angelica Hill:** Get ready, I'm gonna whip out the gopher onesie if I can find one on Amazon... \[laughter\] I'm ready. But tell us. Tell us a little bit about GopherCon. I know we had a bit of change; I want to hear about like Chicago. I'm certainly very excited about Chicago. Never been. The only thing I've been to... |
**Erik St. Martin:** That's a lot of bread though... |
**Angelica Hill:** I love bread. \[laughs\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** This isn't my unpopular opinion, but really? Why don't we need that much bread? |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** That's a lot of carbs. \[laughs\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** They're gonna like put me back on the plane when I hit Chicago. "What did you say about our pizza...?" \[laughter\] |
**Angelica Hill:** But tell us, this year, what are you excited about? What should we be looking forward to? |
**Erik St. Martin:** I'm just excited to get people back together. And I know there's a lot to kind of work around and navigate right now, because the pandemic is far from over... So I know there's a lot to navigate there, but two years of sort of not being connected - it almost feels the way it did back in 2013, when ... |
So yeah, that's what I'm most excited about, is just to have people there, even though it's not going to be the same scale as it was pre-pandemic... But there's also some opportunity to reminisce a little bit too, right? Like, that tight-knit group that came out of the first year, and everything, forging new relationsh... |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** \[42:19\] I'm looking forward to seeing people again, face-to-face, honestly. For me, going to a conference, and perhaps there's other people out there who share the sentiment - going to the conference, I honestly go less for the talks, and more for the interaction with people. I get to see peopl... |
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