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**Bill Kennedy:** Practical stuff. And because everybody here is so new - because I've been sheltered for the last 2,5 years - it's probably gonna be a lot of new material. It's new to them.
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah.
**Bill Kennedy:** I mean, I've been doing this particular exercise for half a decade... So I always have to worry, like, how many people have seen this? And my guess is it's gonna be very, very little. So at that point, it should be a good talk. And you can see my style; I can't do slide decks.
**Mat Ryer:** Well, I can't wait to see it. Thanks so much for talking to me today.
**Bill Kennedy:** Alright... Thanks, Mat.
**Mat Ryer:** Thanks, Bill.
**Jingle:** \[52:18\]
**Break:** \[52:38\]
**Mat Ryer:** Well, that beautiful sound there was just created by Egon. How have you done that?
**Egon Elbre:** Well, I came here and did a TinyGo workshop, and I took some buttons and mapped them to a trumpet \[unintelligible 00:53:44.26\] then control it with Ableton
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. So you had to assemble this yourself on the breadboard.
**Egon Elbre:** Yeah, exactly.
**Mat Ryer:** It's got three switches. Can you explain what these components are here?
**Egon Elbre:** \[54:00\] Yeah, it's an Arduino Nano RP-something... And then it's got three buttons connected to it. And yeah, then there's some magic to map the three buttons to some midi note.
**Mat Ryer:** Ah, so you've got Go code that's running on there...
**Egon Elbre:** Yeah, exactly.
**Mat Ryer:** ...and that is translating into the midi notes, which is then played out through Ableton
**Egon Elbre:** Yes, exactly.
**Mat Ryer:** So it's not too many pieces you have to put together to make that work.
**Egon Elbre:** No, not really. It's 90 lines of code, and I have different scales and stuff here already...
**Mat Ryer:** That is so cool! And how was your -- this roundtable discussion yesterday; remind us what you talked about.
**Egon Elbre:** Oh, it was excellent. There was a static analysis discussion. We went through what linters everybody is using, and how do you build them, and what could be made easier to make linking easier to write. And of course, what's the other thing to do? A debugger. Pun not intended... But why are debuggers so p...
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah.
**Egon Elbre:** So... Lots of interesting topics.
**Mat Ryer:** Well, yeah, the interesting thing -- because I've written some linter tools myself, and it's not easy, is it?
**Egon Elbre:** Yeah. But there are packages, like tools analysis, and the rule card, rules that do help you make it easier. But there's probably -- we could do something where we do like a structural pattern detection on bad examples and good examples, and then figure out how to convert it into a linter.
**Mat Ryer:** Oh, that's interesting then. So almost like using good code as training data for...
**Egon Elbre:** Exactly, yeah. And if it's wrong, then you just add an example to one or the other, and it will get better.
**Mat Ryer:** Oh, that's kind of like GitHub Copilot, but without the machine learning and the SaaS.
**Egon Elbre:** I guess so, yeah. \[laughter\]
**Mat Ryer:** And we mean SaaS in both ways. GitHub Copilot is quite sassy sometimes... I asked GitHub Copilot, just in the comments, "Are you alive?" and it said "Yes."
**Egon Elbre:** So... What else do you need?
**Mat Ryer:** Exactly. I'm sold... But thanks, Egon... Enjoy. Maybe you can play a bit more for us...
**Egon Elbre:** Sure. \[56:32\] Okay?
**Mat Ryer:** Nice.
**Mat Ryer:** Oh, I can't believe it. @deadprogram, Ron Evans, in real life, and in this timeline.
**Ron Evans:** Here in Berlin, of course. I wouldn't miss GopherCon EU. I mean, I don't get out much...
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. And what are you doing here?
**Ron Evans:** Well, we have our TinyGo Hardware Hack Session today...
**Mat Ryer:** Amazing.
**Ron Evans:** We brought all sorts of hardware from our secret lair, for people to check out lending library style And then using that, they can hack on hardware, fly drones, program gopherbots, program IoT controllers, and even our TinyGo music jam.
**Mat Ryer:** Oh, that I can't wait for. I was talking to BuBu earlier He was making a drone fly around, before someone nearly squashed it.
**Ron Evans:** Well, he's actually been consuming the batteries for the drones at a very rapid pace, and... He's definitely getting his drone pilot license after this, I'm telling you.
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. \[laughs\] So let's have a quick look at some of the stuff you've got here then. I mean, obviously, it's a podcast, so people can't see it. We're gonna have to describe it... But there's these cool pins, and stuff.
**Ron Evans:** Oh, these are really awesome TinyGo pins made by ConejoNinja my awesome collaborator and colleague. He makes wonderful toys of all different kinds... So he 3D-printed these cool, little, tiny gophers, which - you've gotta take one, in your appropriate color...
**Mat Ryer:** Adorable... Yes...
**Ron Evans:** We have these awesome pins, TinyGo stickers... But the thing he made that is the most amazing is these life-size gopherbot helmets.
**Mat Ryer:** I know... I can't believe this.
**Ron Evans:** \[58:05\] We've got those photos that we took a few minutes ago, that you'll have to share... Because honestly, we look better in those helmets than we've ever looked.
**Mat Ryer:** I know... To be fair - yeah, I feel like it's sort of like Daft Punk, but imagine Daft Punk was struck by lightning.