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**Mark Bates:** \[Captain Sparrow voice\] "I've been stuck on that island for so long... Thinking about generics and stewing away..." I'm like \[unintelligible 00:15:06.13\] Somehow I gain weight being stranded on a dessert island. I'm not quite sure how that happens. |
**Mat Ryer:** No, you look great though, mate, really. \[unintealligible 00:15:11.19\] jealous. |
**Mark Bates:** Oh, thank you. That's your unpopular opinion, I assume. |
**Mat Ryer:** \[unintelligible 00:15:14.29\] |
**Mark Bates:** Then I look good. Because there's definitely an unpopular opinion in my house. |
**Mat Ryer:** You definitely would make a good Guess Who character, from that game Guess Who. Like, way more interesting. |
**Mark Bates:** Fair enough. |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Can I opine now? |
**Mat Ryer:** Yes, Johnny, I'm sorry. |
**Mark Bates:** Yeah, go for it. Please, help us. |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Okay. \[laughs\] I have to break this up. Alright... Yeah. And for those who don't know, this is actually what happens in real-life too, hanging out with these guys. |
**Mat Ryer:** Apart from I began to piggyback off Bates by now... |
**Mark Bates:** That's true. And there's usually a lot more food involved. |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** And alcohol, yeah. Sadly. Anyways, so my -- |
**Mark Bates:** Still waiting on you, Johnny... |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** I know, I'm trying to get it out and y'all keep making me laugh. \[laughter\] |
**Mark Bates:** \[16:01\] Just keep making those mistakes till you find it, and that's okay. |
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah, absolutely. Well, speaking of mistakes, Teiva's book, "100 Mistakes" is -- |
**Mark Bates:** Are you saying that his book is a mistake?! |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Goodness! We treat our guests better than that. |
**Mark Bates:** Mat, you're doing a terrible job... I think it's a wonderful book, despite what you say... |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Teiva, don't believe what he says. |
**Mark Bates:** Yeah. Teiva, man, Mat's just -- he's jealous. |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Yeah. Great book, great work... Your stuff is not a mistake. |
**Teiva Harsanyi:** That was rude. |
**Mark Bates:** He's jealous. His Blueprints book hasn't sold well in years... \[laughter\] |
**Mat Ryer:** \[unintelligible 00:16:31.09\] It's absolutely full of mistakes. |
**Mark Bates:** Yeah, that's why it hasn't sold well in years, mate. |
**Mat Ryer:** Well, you can find out for yourself by buying my book, and also getting a -- Bates, let's try this. |
**Mark Bates:** You can go to my torrent site and just download his book for free. |
**Mat Ryer:** \[laughs\] |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** That's how we treat friends. We just put their stuff-- |
**Mark Bates:** I'll put the link up on Twitter after this show... \[laughter\] |
**Mat Ryer:** Good. Thank you for putting it there, so nobody will see it. |
**Jerod Santo:** Did you know our most popular episode of 2021 on Go Time was episode 196, "Building actually maintainable software"? Here's some of the funniest moments from that awesome conversation. And if you wanna know what our other top episodes were, we posted our top five of the year on Twitter. Follow along at... |
**Kris Brandow:** I think there's this myth that exists in our industry that people wouldn't like working on \[unintelligible 00:17:25.13\] It'd be like this miserable thing, where like "Oh, well that's the team of people that doesn't get to do the fun stuff of building features and building new products and doing all ... |
**Sam Boyer:** Scratch that itch... |
**Kris Brandow:** Yeah, like the garbage man. Every city -- like, imagine what our cities would be like if there were no garbage people. Not garbage people, but trash collectors. \[laughter\] That's a better -- I mean, it'd be good to have a city that has... |
**Sam Boyer:** I didn't hear it till you said it... |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** I mean, it would be a wonderful world if we didn't have garbage people... \[laughter\] |
**Kris Brandow:** Imagine a world where we didn't have trash collectors. Our streets would be disgusting, our cities would be awful... But there's no one there that's saying -- and there's some people that are trash collectors, and they love their life. They are so happy with what their job is and how they live their l... |
**Kris Brandow:** What would you add, if you have anything, to make Go more... Not just make Go itself more maintainable, but make the code that we write more maintainable? |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Generics... Hell no. \[laughter\] |
**Sam Boyer:** No, I want generics, but just for me. Everybody else can screw themselves. \[laughter\] Because then I know what mine do, and I don't have to deal with any of your garbage... And then we're fine. Right? I'm fine... That's what's important here. |
Oh, I would add Rust. That's what I would add... \[laughter\] I would really like to have compile-time -- |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Unpopular... |
**Sam Boyer:** There you go... I would really like to have compile-time guarantees about shared access to global immutable state. Forget this go test race garbage... Come on. Static or nothing, that's my... \[laughter\] Is this a helpful answer? This isn't a helpful answer. I'm sorry. |
**Kris Brandow:** Well, we avoided dependency mentions. It's okay. |
**Sam Boyer:** We did, we did! \[laughter\] Scooted right by it. Well done. |
**Kris Brandow:** Okay... |
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