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**Mat Ryer:** Okay... But Natalie, I think you might be right. But tell me, have you had it sweet recently?
**Natalie Pistunovich:** No, not recently.
**Mat Ryer:** Right. But you have in the past.
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Yes. I think even when I started drinking coffee, for a very short period I would drink it sweet, but just... There's different types of coffee. I don't know, Ron, if you remember...
**Ron Evans:** Well, the thing that's amazing is you keep talking about sugar. They burned all the sugar when they did Sugarcoin...
**Mat Ryer:** It must have smelled delicious.
**Ron Evans:** ...and then there was no sugar left. That was it. All the sugar was gone.
**Mat Ryer:** Oh. Just caramel.
**Ron Evans:** Yeah, I guess that, probably.
**Mat Ryer:** The rivers...
**Ron Evans:** Just rivers of caramel, that was it.
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. \[laughs\] But I had a coffee recently, and I sweetened it, just to try it, because I always drink it without sweetening it... And it was rubbish. I'll prefer it just honest and stark.
**Ron Evans:** You should try electric coffee. Our electric coffees are the best.
**Mat Ryer:** Oh, yeah? So what do you do, do you download them?
**Ron Evans:** Yeah, you just hit a button and you've had a coffee. Kind of the same thing.
**Mat Ryer:** You've already had it?
**Ron Evans:** It's genius.
**Mat Ryer:** Well do you have the memory you just put in?
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Is this what stands behind all those "Buy me coffee" buttons?
**Ron Evans:** Yeah, exactly.
**Mat Ryer:** That's where they end up.
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Oh, man... I was wondering all this time.
**Ron Evans:** Eventually, the messages get through. It just takes a while. All of a sudden you're just like "Coffee, coffee, coffee..." It's great.
**Mat Ryer:** So you don't get a coffee. You just feel like you've had one, or you have the memory of having a coffee just then?
**Ron Evans:** It's the experience of a coffee. I can't really define it more than that, okay? It's sort of a \[unintelligible 00:47:25.02\] not really ineffable.
**Mat Ryer:** Right.
**Ron Evans:** That's a real thing, you know, in the information theory.
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. Go on then... Do you wanna talk more about it? It could be your unpopular opinion.
**Ron Evans:** Oh, my unpopular opinion is you people were way too afraid of AI in the past. You should have been afraid of other humans a lot more. That's my unpopular opinion from here in the future. Some of my best friends are AIs.
**Natalie Pistunovich:** They buy you coffee. Downloaded through --
**Ron Evans:** They send me downloadable coffeum.
**Mat Ryer:** Just in an email.
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Coffeum, right.
**Mat Ryer:** Just as an attachment. What's the mime type for that?
**Ron Evans:** Well, there actually was an RFC for the CoffeePot Protocol.
**Mat Ryer:** \[48:10\] Was there? Oh, yes...
**Ron Evans:** And I believe at some point the AI's discovered that, and they thought "Well, humans really must care about coffee if they've made a whole internet protocol just about it."
**Mat Ryer:** Yeah. I think it's RFC 2324, HyperText CoffeePot Control Protocol.
**Ron Evans:** Exactly. So they interpreted that as that was one of the more important parts of human civilization to completely automate...
**Mat Ryer:** It's a fair point, to be fair.
**Ron Evans:** So actually quite a few people have a coffee port installed by the time they hit seven years old...
**Mat Ryer:** I've basically got one of those.
**Ron Evans:** Yeah. So a lot of things haven't really changed that much.
**Mat Ryer:** It sounds good though.
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Is HTTP status 418 still a thing? Does it still tell you you're a teapot, or it's a teapot?
**Ron Evans:** Oh no, there's no tea. There's only coffeum.
**Natalie Pistunovich:** So it was changed, basically, the HTTP status \[unintelligible 00:49:01.16\] coffee?
**Ron Evans:** No, there was never such a protocol.
**Natalie Pistunovich:** Okay. Sorry I asked, I did not mean to...
**Ron Evans:** Now that we don't have an internet wayback machine, we don't have any way to tell whether or not there ever was.