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[1506.20 --> 1511.10] only worked if you were on your LAN and directly connected to your Rune core. |
[1511.78 --> 1514.34] I couldn't get it to work over tail scale remotely. |
[1514.84 --> 1518.00] So, Rune Arc kind of bridges that gap for a lot of people. |
[1519.08 --> 1524.12] However, this brings us to the cons section of my document. |
[1524.12 --> 1533.12] I don't really know how else to say this, but Rune with 2.0 have shot their... |
[1533.98 --> 1537.26] They're kind of eating their own face, okay? |
[1537.54 --> 1542.94] And the reason I say that is because, firstly, they're charging me $10 a month |
[1542.94 --> 1548.78] for access to my own files, plus the metadata, plus the integrations with Tidal and Cobuzz. |
[1548.78 --> 1549.26] Okay. |
[1550.46 --> 1552.42] However, it gets worse. |
[1552.98 --> 1559.38] They guarantee, with the 2.0 update, zero minutes of offline playback. |
[1559.76 --> 1563.46] If the Rune core cannot connect to the internet, |
[1564.48 --> 1570.26] Rune's position is that they guarantee zero minutes of playback. |
[1570.70 --> 1573.80] Because they don't want to have to pay out when somebody's Wi-Fi goes down |
[1573.80 --> 1576.62] or their router takes a crap, something like that, you think? |
[1576.62 --> 1581.48] Well, according to Johnny Darko, who is the source of this information, |
[1581.62 --> 1586.06] he spoke to, I think his name is Danny, over at Rune about this. |
[1586.12 --> 1588.08] There's a link in the show notes to this video because it's... |
[1589.10 --> 1591.34] I couldn't quite believe what I was watching. |
[1591.58 --> 1594.94] And, you know, Johnny Darko is a proper audiophile, |
[1595.06 --> 1599.40] and I trust his opinion almost implicitly on an awful lot of audio gear. |
[1599.56 --> 1601.64] And just, I like the way his videos feel. |
[1601.80 --> 1603.50] I like the way he presents information. |
[1603.50 --> 1606.92] He's a British guy living in, I think, Berlin. |
[1607.22 --> 1607.58] Oh! |
[1608.24 --> 1609.10] So, yeah. |
[1609.34 --> 1610.70] We've got to stick together, you know. |
[1611.30 --> 1615.60] But what's interesting is Johnny is clearly not a techno guy like us, right? |
[1616.26 --> 1619.98] And listening to someone who's operating on the edge of their understanding |
[1619.98 --> 1623.36] about how some of these technologies on the server side of things work, |
[1623.50 --> 1626.36] it's really interesting because it shows you, actually, |
[1626.52 --> 1629.44] that I think Rune are just trying to pull the wool over people's eyes. |
[1629.44 --> 1631.06] And I don't say that lightly. |
[1631.48 --> 1636.48] And the reason I do say it is because the Rune projects say they're doing this |
[1636.48 --> 1640.44] always online connectivity thing for the server |
[1640.44 --> 1644.38] because they want to move a lot of the processing to the cloud |
[1644.38 --> 1647.22] and to move the product forward and all that kind of stuff. |
[1647.28 --> 1651.14] So a lot of the local processing that currently happens on the Nucleus, |
[1651.28 --> 1655.78] on the Rune core, on my local network, is moving into the cloud. |
[1655.78 --> 1659.38] And they say that they'll be able to batch stuff up and make it more efficient |
[1659.38 --> 1662.88] and kind of, you know, de-duplicate a lot of, you know, |
[1663.00 --> 1664.62] template matching and all that kind of stuff. |
[1665.04 --> 1666.86] Which I get, which I understand, |
[1667.06 --> 1671.36] and does actually make some semblance of sense. |
[1671.84 --> 1676.70] However, we're talking about this through a lens of self-hosting, right? |
[1676.78 --> 1679.16] That's the name of the podcast, right? |
[1680.10 --> 1683.98] Just imagine a situation where your internet goes out for half an hour every day |
[1683.98 --> 1689.90] and you suddenly can't play back the files on your NAS under your desk in your basement. |
[1690.40 --> 1695.32] You know, it's just unacceptable on a huge number of levels for me personally. |
[1695.50 --> 1699.64] And I think despite how much I love Rune so far and, you know, |
[1699.80 --> 1703.80] the 2.0 release has been a little buggy and, you know, not perfect, |
[1704.36 --> 1705.46] a little rough around the edges, |
[1705.46 --> 1709.74] I just can't adopt a product that costs this much money |
[1709.74 --> 1716.10] and compromises on such a fundamental capability like that |
[1716.10 --> 1719.60] or of an offline self-hosted type product. |
[1719.80 --> 1721.64] It's just, I just can't. |
[1722.06 --> 1723.58] Yeah, that's a fairly, that's a fair point. |
[1723.84 --> 1725.88] Especially when you consider there's people out there that maybe |
[1725.88 --> 1728.00] they're on Starlink and they're having a bad day |
[1728.00 --> 1730.84] or they're on LTE and they're having a bad day and... |
[1730.84 --> 1734.44] Or they live in the third world and the entire island is connected |
[1734.44 --> 1736.68] through a single satellite type people. |
[1737.26 --> 1741.10] That surely is not a big part of Rune's core audience. |
[1741.58 --> 1742.28] Starlink customers. |
[1742.74 --> 1744.14] I could see the Starlink customers though. |
[1744.26 --> 1745.62] Starlink people are out there, you know. |
[1745.74 --> 1746.80] You know, the thing is, is like, |
[1746.86 --> 1748.90] it's sort of taking away one of the biggest advantages |
[1748.90 --> 1751.52] of you collecting all that stuff locally for so many years. |
[1751.52 --> 1752.80] And it's just... |
[1752.80 --> 1755.06] At that point, why not just have a Cobuzz subscription |
[1755.06 --> 1756.02] or a Tidal subscription? |
[1756.26 --> 1760.80] What value is Rune adding if I can't even, let's say, you know, |
[1760.84 --> 1765.22] one of my friend's dad's was, is out of power for like eight to ten days |
[1765.22 --> 1768.24] with Hurricane Ian a couple of weeks ago, you know. |
[1769.38 --> 1769.78] Yikes. |
[1769.90 --> 1770.52] It's just no good. |
[1770.68 --> 1771.16] It's no good. |
[1771.56 --> 1772.44] You know, for the pricing, |
[1772.72 --> 1774.00] especially if you were looking at server hardware, |
[1774.46 --> 1776.94] you could almost just afford to just buy sets of speakers |
[1776.94 --> 1779.86] for every single room and just put a dedicated hardware device on them |
[1779.86 --> 1780.64] and just call it good. |
[1781.10 --> 1781.46] Yeah. |
[1782.92 --> 1785.86] That's, it was, it does sound like it was really nice for a moment though. |
[1785.86 --> 1788.20] The alternative is Sonos, really, |
[1788.40 --> 1790.68] that's got this level of fit and finish and polish. |
[1790.68 --> 1791.52] And all the rest of it. |
[1792.00 --> 1793.50] But Sonos is just hardware. |
[1793.94 --> 1797.08] And as we talked about several episodes ago, |
[1797.62 --> 1800.24] when Sonos decide that a device is no longer supported, |
[1800.44 --> 1802.74] suddenly that perfectly good speaker cone |
[1802.74 --> 1806.82] and that perfectly good amplifier unit become a brick |
[1806.82 --> 1809.04] thanks to their business model, you know. |
[1809.24 --> 1810.60] And that's a thing. |
[1811.18 --> 1811.80] It's frustrating. |
[1812.50 --> 1815.94] So I think that the next one to look at is probably Volumio, |
[1816.10 --> 1817.68] although I've heard mixed reports about that. |
[1817.68 --> 1820.52] And I certainly don't expect the level of fit and finish I've seen from Rune. |
[1820.94 --> 1823.28] The other one to keep an eye on is Plexamp Headless. |
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